Liam Manning - CONFIRMED NEW HEAD COACH

[Numero Uno]

6 minutes ago, italian dave said:

That's all fair comment, and principally I got into this debate not to 'praise' the Lansdowns but just to try to put a bit of perspective and to suggest that the vitriol is unfair and uncalled for. 

And the perspective is maybe more about the longer term, the 20 years of SLs reign. Having said that, I agree with you that this isn't a one-off response purely at this single decision. It feels like quite a lot has been going wrong for a year or more now. I've said as much on another thread - from the catering to the comms to the customer service (or lack of) through to bigger issues like the farce of the CEOs. As a club we're certainly not in a better place now than we were a year ago (although, ironically, sacking NP would probably have been less of an issue a year ago!). But compared to 20 years ago...?

Had someone turned round to you and said twenty years ago "a new Owner is coming in and pumping in £200m plus over the next twenty years" would have thought "mmmm, that will at least guarantee us perennial lower mid-Championship football then."? You can't question the investment but for me we should have done a lot more with it than we have. For all that investment we are still only a division head of our ramshackle noisy neighbours who wear poverty as a badge of honour. Not good enough for me.

[petehinton]

26 minutes ago, Carey 6 said:

Took Oxford training today so not sure if that rules him out or not. 

I tend to think if we’re going to hire someone already in a job, which requires permission to speak with them, we’d hear about it through journalists etc.

Nothing would’ve happened before Saturday as they have a game, as do we. I said yesterday, but imo think there’s positive signs for this to be a goer for Piercy to break the news himself. Club will feel confident it can be done & he’s keen, will have given the green light for him to post it etc. 

[italian dave]

6 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

Had someone turned round to you and said twenty years ago "a new Owner is coming in and pumping in £200m plus over the next twenty years" would have thought "mmmm, that will at least guarantee us perennial lower mid-Championship football then."? You can't question the investment but for me we should have done a lot more with it than we have. For all that investment we are still only a division head of our ramshackle noisy neighbours who wear poverty as a badge of honour. Not good enough for me.

Possibly, yes. But when people talk (as they often do!) about Brighton and Brentford and Bournemouth I also think about Reading and Sheffield Wednesday and Wigan and Derby.

And (less seriously!) if someone had said that to me then I might have thought ‘well at least they’re being realistic’, unlike the ‘Europe in 5 years’ claptrap that some of their predecessors came up with! 

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

Clearly any approach for Manning comes with a compensation payment to Oxford. I don't know what his contract situation is so do we have any idea of cost? Interesting on what we are prepared to spend money on. 

[Numero Uno]

Just now, italian dave said:

Possibly, yes. But when people talk (as they often do!) about Brighton and Brentford and Bournemouth I also think about Reading and Sheffield Wednesday and Wigan and Derby.

And (less seriously!) if someone had said that to me then I might have thought ‘well at least they’re being realistic’, unlike the ‘Europe in 5 years’ claptrap that some of their predecessors came up with! 

To be fair we cannot pin "Europe in 5 Years" on the Board!!

The interesting thing is people talk of "Brentford, Brighton, Bournemouth, Luton and Burnley" or "Wednesday, Wigan and Derby" BUT NOBODY WHATSOEVER talks about Bristol City - we are the epitome of mediocrity and it's cost someone £200m plus to get us there!!

[petehinton]

Also forgot to flag Tinnion was at Oxford Exeter earlier in the season too, so that’s a good 3 times minimum he’s actively seen them play in the flesh. May even have been at Oxford Rovers too. 

[plumb]

20 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

Had someone turned round to you and said twenty years ago "a new Owner is coming in and pumping in £200m plus over the next twenty years" would have thought "mmmm, that will at least guarantee us perennial lower mid-Championship football then."? You can't question the investment but for me we should have done a lot more with it than we have. For all that investment we are still only a division head of our ramshackle noisy neighbours who wear poverty as a badge of honour. Not good enough for me.

But if they had said that a significant amount of teams in the same league would have money coming out their ears and that £200m was not a particularly large amount in comparison to them, our achievements (or lack of) may have been viewed differently again. 

[Numero Uno]

1 minute ago, bbew said:

But if they had said that a significant amount of teams in the same league would have money coming out their ears and that £200m was not a particularly large amount in comparison to them, our achievements (or lack of) may have been viewed differently again. 

That has been the case since parachute payments were introduced and with FFFP introduced it's harder than it's ever been. There was a considerable period of wasted opportunity before that however. I repeat, it shouldn't cost £200m to achieve perpetual mediocrity.

[cheddarwedlocker]

Always my first choice - think he would be a great fit

[robin_unreliant]

27 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

Had someone turned round to you and said twenty years ago "a new Owner is coming in and pumping in £200m plus over the next twenty years" would have thought "mmmm, that will at least guarantee us perennial lower mid-Championship football then."? You can't question the investment but for me we should have done a lot more with it than we have. For all that investment we are still only a division head of our ramshackle noisy neighbours who wear poverty as a badge of honour. Not good enough for me.

Isn't that what the Lansdowns are saying though. With the wages we have been paying, contributing to the losses, we should be doing more. Maybe they have got fed up with being patient too.

[italian dave]

8 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

To be fair we cannot pin "Europe in 5 Years" on the Board!!

The interesting thing is people talk of "Brentford, Brighton, Bournemouth, Luton and Burnley" or "Wednesday, Wigan and Derby" BUT NOBODY WHATSOEVER talks about Bristol City - we are the epitome of mediocrity and it's cost someone £200m plus to get us there!!

 

1 minute ago, Numero Uno said:

That has been the case since parachute payments were introduced and with FFFP introduced it's harder than it's ever been. There was a considerable period of wasted opportunity before that however. I repeat, it shouldn't cost £200m to achieve perpetual mediocrity.

ha ha! yes - we went from good old Des Williams: budget for cup exits at the first round and average attendances of season ticket sales and no more. Straight to Europe in 5 years! Of course the first might mean you break even but its limit is about League 1. The second requires way way more investment than they ever had.

You could put it another way - mediocrity in those terms at least gives you a decent standard of football and £200m is what it costs to get even that nowadays. The point about FFP and parachute payments is exactly what you say - once you've taken the chance and pulled off the PL then £200m is suddenly a couple of years TV money - relatively small beer. And - as some of those others have shown - you can still cock it all up even then!

[Numero Uno]

Just now, robin_unreliant said:

Isn't that what the Lansdowns are saying though. With the wages we have been paying, contributing to the losses, we should be doing more. Maybe they have got fed up with being patient too.

Don't you think plenty of teams in our league are paying the same or in a number of cases a hell of a lot more than us? The Lansdown's have missed the boat I'm afraid.

Over twenty years of patiently waiting to achieve something, ONE common denominator.

[Open End Numb Legs]

I suppose 1 thing in his favour is he is a committed, career coach rather than the previous bookies favourite who is a top ex player but has dabbled in the media and not succeeded in the coaching he has tried.

[RobinTuga]

3 hours ago, FNQ said:

Liam Manning is doing a good job at Oxford, things are going well for him at the moment. Why on earth though would he walk away from at least a couple of years job security and the very real prospect of championship football next season to join our lot? Surely he, or any other manager that currently have a job would have to be mad to throw it all away and join the Lansdowns.. People within the football community would be fully aware of what’s going on at Ashton Gate.

I agree with your sentiment in general but just to play devil's advocate. I'm sure Manning thought like that in some way as he finished 3rd in League One while being linked with Championship clubs only to be out of the job by Christmas that year, football more and more works on a "what have you done for me lately" basis. What you say makes sense but at the same time but I wonder if someone who's gone through that would be more receptive to taking the chance to go up the ladder while it's there.

[Kid in the Riot]

Short interview he did yesterday with BBC Oxford

 

[!james]

https://yellowsforum.co.uk/threads/liam-manning.9227/page-63

Being discussed at their end too!

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Short interview he did yesterday with BBC Oxford

 

Have you ruled him out yet?! Harrys completed his overview now

[jjcarrera1974]

Don’t know if it adds anything to this thread, but I know for a fact ex Bristol City player James Morton was all set for a move to MK Dons / Liam Manning until the deal fell through due to his sacking … 

[Henry]

18 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Short interview he did yesterday with BBC Oxford

 

The island of hair separating from the rest is giving me Steve McLaren vibes

The constant looking at the floor is giving me Joey Barton vibes.

On that basis…it’s a no from me.

[petehinton]

54 minutes ago, jjcarrera1974 said:

Don’t know if it adds anything to this thread, but I know for a fact ex Bristol City player James Morton was all set for a move to MK Dons / Liam Manning until the deal fell through due to his sacking … 

Was due to Martin leaving for Swansea, wasn’t it?

[Merrick's Marvels]

3 hours ago, BS30 City said:

Have you ruled him out yet?! Harrys completed his overview now

No

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

12 hours ago, Barrs Court Red said:

This is their best???
 

Roll on when they foxtrot Oscar, and someone capable can really give it their best. 

There are maybe 3-4 clubs in the entire EFL and Premiership where the supporters believe that the owners are doing a brilliant and consistently good job- putting in the right amount of money, hiring the right Manager and signing the best players. Your sense of self entitlement is noted.... you can't even be bothered to be a supporter of OTIB so I doubt very much that you would pay to watch BCFC.

10 hours ago, frenchred said:

But most of that money spent was to cover up their fooking decisions on who to appoint and mistakes!

Another poster who is so clever about how SL spends his money yet can't spend his own to support a forum.

In my opinion there do seem to be a disproportionate amount of people who are experts about how to spend other people's money but remarkable about spending their own. OTIB support is about the price of a pint which some do seem to have a lot of when they arrive on here.

[Barrs Court Red]

10 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

There are maybe 3-4 clubs in the entire EFL and Premiership where the supporters believe that the owners are doing a brilliant and consistently good job- putting in the right amount of money, hiring the right Manager and signing the best players. Your sense of self entitlement is noted.... you can't even be bothered to be a supporter of OTIB so I doubt very much that you would pay to watch BCFC.

Another poster who is so clever about how SL spends his money yet can't spend his own to support a forum.

In my opinion there do seem to be a disproportionate amount of people who are experts about how to spend other people's money but remarkable about spending their own. OTIB support is about the price of a pint which some do seem to have a lot of when they arrive on here.

Funny, it used to be supported by your precious club owner, until fragile Steve realised he didn’t like criticism so pulled the plug. 
 

It’s almost like the lack of fan engagement flows down from the top isn’t it… 

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

9 hours ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

I agree about the new posters. There seems a whiff of paranoia around here about them - just put 'em on ignore! 

Like I have with you.

As for the highlighted bit - it's a specious argument and you know it - no-one's made him spend that much - he's had too because he keeps making a mess of things - are we supposed to just doff our caps and shut up - etc etc

So as you go back on ignore, I'll leave you with this:

How long does our owner need to get it right if 20+ years isn't long enough? How many chances to get it right does he need - if we had a Centre forward who kept missing chances as regularly as our owner has, would you still keep picking him or would you decide it's time for a new Centre forward? 

So you put me on "ignore" then "unignoer" to break cover and then make a derogatory comment and then allegedly put me back on ignore!

You're like a kid in the playground who comes up from behind tries to kick someone and then runs and hides in the toilets.

Man up. 

Personally I've never put anyone on "ignore" ever. If I don't like what they say I just move on, if they make a good point that I don't like but are essentially more right than me- I just suck it up. But I guess for some it's akin to a popularity contest. 

Were you bullied?

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

1 minute ago, Barrs Court Red said:

Funny, it used to be supported by your precious club owner, until fragile Steve realised he didn’t like criticism so pulled the plug. 
 

It’s almost like the lack of fan engagement flows down from the top isn’t it… 

If SL pulls the plug - our club goes pop. What part of that do you not understand? You can't even pay £5 to support OTIB which you are only to happy to make over 13000 comments on.

Do you not get the irony of yourself?

 

[Barrs Court Red]

7 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

If SL pulls the plug - our club goes pop. What part of that do you not understand? You can't even pay £5 to support OTIB which you are only to happy to make over 13000 comments on.

Do you not get the irony of yourself?

 

“but it stuff pulls the plug” and in this fantasyland you could say the same about any owner of any business?  
 

You’ve been dangling that rod for days, desperate to get that moneys worth for that fiver ain’t ya?  Here’s to another 13000 posts, I’ll raise a jar to your noble sacrifice.  Maybe you could chuck some over to Steve, just incase he pulls the plug

[Mr Popodopolous]

13 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

If SL pulls the plug - our club goes pop. What part of that do you not understand? You can't even pay £5 to support OTIB which you are only to happy to make over 13000 comments on.

Do you not get the irony of yourself?

 

That isn't strictly true, it depends on how he is running us and what terms that pulling the plug would entail.

If he is running us on a cash breakeven basis then it would depend on the debt and his views about it.

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

1 minute ago, Barrs Court Red said:

“but it stuff pulls the plug” and in this fantasyland you could say the same about any owner of any business?  
 

You’ve been dangling that rod for days, desperate to get that moneys worth for that fiver ain’t ya?  Here’s to another 13000 posts, I’ll raise a jar to your noble sacrifice.  Maybe you could chuck some over to Steve, just incase he pulls the plug

Yep- I'll continue to support OTIB and also BCFC. As SL loses c£30,000,000 per annum keeping the club afloatt:BCFC are , were, and will be a loss making football club so I don't share your flippant disregard to money and sustainability. 

I support OTIB because there are a number of people who behind the scenes give up their time (unpaid) to give us a largely great forum. This seems lost on those who feel entitled.

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

6 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

That isn't strictly true, it depends on how he is running us and what terms that pulling the plug would entail.

If he is running us on a cash breakeven basis then it would depend on the debt and his views about it.

Is he running us on a break even basis? The accounts suggest otherwise as do the accounts of the majority of EFL clubs.

[Mr Popodopolous]

5 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

Is he running us on a break even basis? The accounts suggest otherwise as do the accounts of the majority of EFL clubs.

Cash Flow statement is the key.

He certainly hasn't been so far but I have a feeling the Scott sale and how cash flow falls there, combined with costs falling and the relatively limited inbound activity, well we shall see..when the accounts for last season are out it'll be instructive.

Healthy position it isn't but it maybe somewhat healthier now.

Edited November 3, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[handsofclay]

Who wants to be known as Bristol City let's just check, oh, they're managed by some dude called Liam Manning when we could be known as:

Frank Lampard's Bristol City. 

[Barrs Court Red]

6 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

Yep- I'll continue to support OTIB and also BCFC. As SL loses c£30,000,000 per annum keeping the club afloatt:BCFC are , were, and will be a loss making football club so I don't share your flippant disregard to money and sustainability. 

I support OTIB because there are a number of people who behind the scenes give up their time (unpaid) to give us a largely great forum. This seems lost on those who feel entitled.

£30mil is it now?.  
 

I disregard sustainability, but City lose £30mil (by your reckoning).  That’s not very sustainable chief. Want to try again,  as that gotcha misses the target.

 And after 20 years at the helm, failing to be sustainable at this point (if that is indeed the aim) is only on the shoulders of one person and their choices. 

 

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

Just now, Mr Popodopolous said:

Cash Flow statement is the key.

He certainly hasn't been so far but I have a feeling the Scott sale and how cash flow falls there, combined with costs falling and the relatively limited inbound activity, well we shall see..when the accounts for last season are out it'll be instructive.

Ok- so even with the transfer income ( which 100% guaranteed will be used to pay up for Nigel, pay up a new coach and crack open some of the so-called nest egg) will BCFC even come close to break even? One swallow does not a summer make.

You have been extremely analytical regarding profit/loss/sustainability sometimes to the same extent as DaveFevs in his analysis of players/formations.

I'd bet my shirt on the fact that BCFC will not break even now with SL or in the future with another owner unless promotion happens. For BCFC to be promoted requires a huge slice of luck or cash- both of which appear unlikely albeit that the former is more likely than the latter.

[fisherrich]

Nigel Pearson to Liam Manning. This is a wind up I assume?

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

8 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said:

£30mil is it now?.  
 

I disregard sustainability, but City lose £30mil (by your reckoning).  That’s not very sustainable chief. Want to try again,  as that gotcha misses the target.

 And after 20 years at the helm, failing to be sustainable at this point (if that is indeed the aim) is only on the shoulders of one person and their choices. 

 

 

18 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Cash Flow statement is the key.

He certainly hasn't been so far but I have a feeling the Scott sale and how cash flow falls there, combined with costs falling and the relatively limited inbound activity, well we shall see..when the accounts for last season are out it'll be instructive.

Healthy position it isn't but it maybe somewhat healthier now.

FAO @Barrs Court Red     Hahahahaha!

NO- not by my reckoning- by the reckoning of the accounts just posted by @Mr Popodopolous

Pretty much only a football fan could say " I disregard sustainability" !!!

Best advice: when you've dug yourself a hole, stop digging.

[chinapig]

1 minute ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

 

FAO @Barrs Court Red     Hahahahaha!

NO- not by my reckoning- by the reckoning of the accounts just posted by @Mr Popodopolous

Pretty much only a football fan could say " I disregard sustainability" !!!

Best advice: when you've dug yourself a hole, stop digging.

Steve has talked about sustainability for years but hasn't actually practised it, not least when he indulged Ashton and Johnson in doubling the wage bill to unsustainable levels.

I don't believe any Championship club without parachute payments can be sustainable in the sense of breaking even or being in profit year on year.

But the irony is that Gould, Pearson and others were moving us to a more sustainable status.

Who knows what the strategy will be now and whether we will see another volte-face? Watch this space!

[Barrs Court Red]

6 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

 

FAO @Barrs Court Red     Hahahahaha!

NO- not by my reckoning- by the reckoning of the accounts just posted by @Mr Popodopolous

Pretty much only a football fan could say " I disregard sustainability" !!!

Best advice: when you've dug yourself a hole, stop digging.

I mean, you literally suggested it in your post …”flippant disregard to” is probably where you want to reread. 
 

As back and forth go, this is low energy. Raise the game, but most importantly remember how you worded your previous posts - but maybe on another thread, as this is meant to be about Liam Manning.  

[Mr Popodopolous]

I am trying to extrapolate still.

We assume the consolidated wage bill is down to around £5m, you can reduce the cost contribution or need for it by £5m right thete.

Surely the payment on Intangible Assets down by several million..otoh maybe the payment received for Intangible Assets also down a bit.

Amortisation down definitely but that's a non cash expense anyway.

Maybe not cash breakeven but surely markedly reduced?

You know what my laat post on finance on the thread..don't think Manning would be an upgrade and isn't quire of the young manager profile if we go for one who would push us on. IMO.

Edited November 3, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[AppyDAZE]

39 minutes ago, fisherrich said:

Nigel Pearson to Liam Manning. This is a wind up I assume?

Pearson to anybody is a joke, to be fair, when you chuck in all the circumstances of the club in its situation and the work the bloke has put in. This is why I would rather they now went wacky with the likes of a Lampard. Surely nobody wants to see it be a bloke who’s apparently doing well at… x y z or whatever lower league club you care to mention. 
i seriously think I’d prefer the out there appointment, now we have reached the point we’re at.

Nothing to lose now, except everything.

But we know whose fault that will be anyway.

Edited November 3, 2023 by AppyDAZE

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

1 minute ago, chinapig said:

Steve has talked about sustainability for years but hasn't actually practised it, not least when he indulged Ashton and Johnson in doubling the wage bill to unsustainable levels.

I don't believe any Championship club without parachute payments can be sustainable in the sense of breaking even or being in profit year on year.

But the irony is that Gould, Pearson and others were moving us to a more sustainable status.

Who knows what the strategy will be now and whether we will see another volte-face? Watch this space!

Yep- it has been talked about by Steve and even Nige. The fact is that pretty much EVERY EFL club is not sustainable without covering losses.

As for NP & Gould (and others... whoever the others are?) moving us to a more sustainable status is not irony> It was what they were tasked as doing- it was part of the job description although with Gould - it was the job description and he did a great job. Nige played his part by shaking out the higher paid players and forming a team who fought for each other and didnt give up. IMO they sacked him too soon BUT I remain convinced it was not about results.

[chinapig]

20 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

Yep- it has been talked about by Steve and even Nige. The fact is that pretty much EVERY EFL club is not sustainable without covering losses.

As for NP & Gould (and others... whoever the others are?) moving us to a more sustainable status is not irony> It was what they were tasked as doing- it was part of the job description although with Gould - it was the job description and he did a great job. Nige played his part by shaking out the higher paid players and forming a team who fought for each other and didnt give up. IMO they sacked him too soon BUT I remain convinced it was not about results.

Others simply refers to the fact that while Gould and Pearson were the leaders in their respective roles they would have had others working for and with them who would have played their part.

Steve clearly believes the club can be sustainable as he kept talking about it. But it is ironic that while talking about sustainability he allowed Ashton to create a near financial disaster then told us what a good job he did whereas Pearson delivered what he was tasked with by slashing costs, was given no credit then sacked.

Edited November 3, 2023 by chinapig

[Davefevs]

57 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

Ok- so even with the transfer income ( which 100% guaranteed will be used to pay up for Nigel, pay up a new coach and crack open some of the so-called nest egg) will BCFC even come close to break even? One swallow does not a summer make.

You have been extremely analytical regarding profit/loss/sustainability sometimes to the same extent as DaveFevs in his analysis of players/formations.

I'd bet my shirt on the fact that BCFC will not break even now with SL or in the future with another owner unless promotion happens. For BCFC to be promoted requires a huge slice of luck or cash- both of which appear unlikely albeit that the former is more likely than the latter.

FWIW I think we might turn a profit THIS season…unless we go mad in January.

[NcnsBcfc]

17 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

FWIW I think we might turn a profit THIS season…unless we go mad in January.

Who would get the 500k bonus then @Davefevs?  

[Davefevs]

27 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said:

Who would get the 500k bonus then @Davefevs?  

Me!

[petehinton]

Heard he was asked about the rumours linking him to us, basically refused to answer the question. 
 

Radio Bristol going to play the interview shortly. 

[Lack of Action Man]

Uninspiring appointment for me

[And Its Smith]

5 minutes ago, petehinton said:

Heard he was asked about the rumours linking him to us, basically refused to answer the question. 
 

Radio Bristol going to play the interview shortly. 

Yes that did happen 

[RedReg]

Pearson to manning, jesus. 

[Shauntaylor85]

Yep the sort of uninspiring appointment the Lansdowns will make. 

[RedReg]

One season in EFL for MK Dons and a few months for Oxford. Very inspiring 

[petehinton]

I personally would be excited by it, but only because of the circumstance. 
 

He’s an extremely good coach, what he did at MK was incredible. What he’s doing at Oxford is incredible. They play really excellent football. He’d be my third choice after Carsley & Williams, but don’t see either of those coming for different reasons. 
 

However….to make his own stamp and implement his style, he will definitely need signings. No doubt about that. And I certainly wouldn’t have sacked Pearson for him. 
 

But, that’s the situation we’re in & the corner that the club have backed themselves into.  

Edited November 4, 2023 by petehinton

[Jose]

Oh FFS!!!

[Dolman Block B]

11 minutes ago, OddBallJim said:

Uninspiring appointment for me

Same 

[Sarumred]

2 years or so ago, Ipswich appointed McKenna who very few had heard of outside of Manchester. At the time most of us would have thought that was an uninspiring appointment but he has done well. 

So maybe, just maybe it might turn out to be a good appointment, if indeed the rumours are right.

[Midred]

Is this definite or just supposition? 

[petehinton]

Just now, Sarumred said:

2 years or so ago, Ipswich appointed McKenna who very few had heard of outside of Manchester. At the time most of us would have thought that was an uninspiring appointment but he has done well. 

So maybe, just maybe it might turn out to be a good appointment, if indeed the rumours are right.

& Rob Edwards went from league 2 to the prem in 15 months…..

[chowie]

said he's not heard anything, been no approach

[harvey54]

To be known as Bernard Manning from now on? 

[Silvio Dante]

2 minutes ago, chowie said:

said he's not heard anything, been no approach

That’s because Jon’s still trying to work out how telephones work

[Red Army 75]

I will back the bloke. But really uninspiring for me. 

[Northern Red]

What's happened? Anything noteworthy?

Edited November 4, 2023 by Northern Red

[Riaz]

Most of the names mentioned have been worse than this fella 

[chowie]

ITV West last night 'we are getting close'

LM after Oxford game 'has been no approach'

Flem after Sheff Wed game (about still being in charge) 'let's see what happens tonight/tomorrow'

[LondonBristolian]

Much as I wish Pearson had not been sacked, I could not give a flying **** whether the new manager is an “inspiring” appointment or not.

I don’t want an “inspiring” appointment. I want a good one. The two best appointments over the last twenty years - Johnson and Cotterill - weren’t inspiring in the least but they did the bloody job.

Whoever gets it - whether that be Manning or someone else - will be judged by me on their results, not how “inspiring” the appointment is.

[chinapig]

16 minutes ago, petehinton said:

However….to make his own stamp and implement his style, he will definitely need signings.

He will but why would Steve give him money to spend when Jon says the squad is already good enough for promotion? Surely it can't because he's not Nigel Pearson?

[Shauntaylor85]

26 minutes ago, petehinton said:

I personally would be excited by it, but only because of the circumstance. 
 

He’s an extremely good coach, what he did at MK was incredible. What he’s doing at Oxford is incredible. They play really excellent football. He’d be my third choice after Carsley & Williams, but don’t see either of those coming for different reasons. 
 

However….to make his own stamp and implement his style, he will definitely need signings. No doubt about that. And I certainly wouldn’t have sacked Pearson for him. 
 

But, that’s the situation we’re in & the corner that the club have backed themselves into.  

Are you being serious with your choice of managers? Wow. 

[redkev]

10 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

Much as I wish Pearson had not been sacked, I could not give a flying **** whether the new manager is an “inspiring” appointment or not.

I don’t want an “inspiring” appointment. I want a good one. The two best appointments over the last twenty years - Johnson and Cotterill - weren’t inspiring in the least but they did the bloody job.

Whoever gets it - whether that be Manning or someone else - will be judged by me on their results, not how “inspiring” the appointment is.

Exactly   To many people wondering about names , Ancelotti one of the biggest names in the world ask Everton fans what they thought of him , conte at Tottenham ask spurs fans what they think of him , quite a lot underwhelmed with Ang to start with ask them what they think of him now , 

[petehinton]

4 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

Are you being serious with your choice of managers? Wow. 

….? Ever seen any of their sides?

Who do you want?

Edited November 4, 2023 by petehinton

[Northern Red]

4 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

Are you being serious with your choice of managers? Wow. 

Do you still want Scott Murray sacked?

[Shauntaylor85]

Just now, petehinton said:

….? Ever seen any of their sides?

Who do you want?

Nigel Pearson thanks. However would go for Dean Smith, Mark Robins or Lampard. We need a name for PR, financial purposes. And no I have zero interest in watching League One or Two, but I did see how easily we swept aside Oxford in August. Spent years doing it, if we want promotion we need proven. 

1 minute ago, Northern Red said:

Do you still want Scott Murray sacked?

I’m making the point that it’s a cushty club who keep ex players (like no other)