cidered abroad Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Just now, BCFCGav said: I’m warming to this idea. Though I’d be SO tempted to wait until next weekend to see if Cov pull the trigger on Robins. I know he’s a manager not a coach - but I really like him. No, Robins is not the one for us. If we cannot have an aged Pearson why should we have another one from Coventry? If it is Manning it will be someone with fresh ideas and a real target to aim at. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 25 minutes ago, Sandhurst Red said: Will be formally appointed in next 24-48 hours. ******* hope note! Hardly the upgrade on Pearson we apparently need! 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuno Gomes Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Didn’t someone say we would be impressed by the appointment? This is not! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Here we go then, is this the start of the move in the betting. Now 6/4 with bet Victor was 11/4 an hour a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: No, Robins is not the one for us. If we cannot have an aged Pearson why should we have another one from Coventry? If it is Manning it will be someone with fresh ideas and a real target to aim at. Politely disagree. Whoever comes in will have a job on to get us promoted, of course, but I’d be more confident Robins could pull it off than Manning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Nuno Gomes said: Didn’t someone say we would be impressed by the appointment? This is not! I've heard "them" call the appointment immpresive and also exciting. I agree, if it is Manning it will be a bit of a let down tbh - far from exciting or impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Some fans will always be impressed with big name, managers and marquee signings. It’s just the way it is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 So if it is Manning. Will he be sacked if we fail to obtain promotion this season or fail to improve upon last season? Honestly, I fail to see any logic from the Lansdowns. Lee Johnson 2.0? I feel like dark days are returning 16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andy082005 Posted November 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: I've heard "them" call the appointment immpresive and also exciting. I agree, if it is Manning it will be a bit of a let down tbh - far from exciting or impressive. Let’s be honest - we are talking about the same bellends who promised us a rigorous process - with lots of exciting names from all over Europe applying ….to then appoint Holden 6 9 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Just now, The Coach said: So if it is Manning. Will he be sacked if we fail to obtain promotion this season or fail to improve upon last season? Honestly, I fail to see any logic from the Lansdowns. Lee Johnson 2.0? I feel like dark days are returning In what way do you think he is similar to Lee Johnson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 1 minute ago, And Its Smith said: In what way do you think he is similar to Lee Johnson? Quite simple. Young head coach who comes into fitting the system without rocking the boat. Another “head coach” who does not yet qualify to manage a championship club who apparently are chasing promotion. Please tell me how this is an upgrade on Pearson? Because it isn’t 8 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Incredibly risky move for him. Going great guns at Oxford, to delivering premier league football within 23 games. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 I’d not heard of him but I will say if he keeps doing that well we will struggle to get him next season or even in a few more Months as the sack race carries on, could be very shrewd move & Oxford fans imply they weren’t that impressed but love the football style played now it’s settled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Cristored said: That’s what Ipswich said about McKenna, and he has somehow got them into 2nd with a bunch of lower end champ high end l1 players. Given the money spent I would imagine the hierarchy at Ipswich think the signings are better than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, The Coach said: So if it is Manning. Will he be sacked if we fail to obtain promotion this season or fail to improve upon last season? Honestly, I fail to see any logic from the Lansdowns. Lee Johnson 2.0? I feel like dark days are returning Surely he (or whoever it is) has to get top 6 at least. Those are now the parameters that have been set out. And given the in depth review provided by Harry here in these pages on how he likes to play, top 6 seems a stretch with our current squad, but that’s the requirement now. Lansdown will of course open the purse strings to assist him in January because he won’t want his man screwing up. Edited November 5, 2023 by lenred 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Cristored said: That’s what Ipswich said about McKenna, and he has somehow got them into 2nd with a bunch of lower end champ high end l1 players. You really think that’s the calibre of their squad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 If we had "done an Ipswich" & appointed Mckenna, a fair number of our supporters would have apparently been really disappointed & let down by the appointment. Why are people so adamant about wanting a "big name" to justify it being positive..? Any household ne manager is highly likely to have failed previously to be in an available position (Eustace could be deemed the exception) Or, we go for someone who's doing well & making a name for themselves - unlikely to poach that from our level or certainly the level above - so a manager who's doing well at the level below us isn't "uninspiring" - although, of course, it is a gamble. Without clubs taking those gambles, new big names & success stories don't happen & they soon become out of our reach for their next move. Of course, I fully understand that we have tried that route before & failed - Mcinnes, Tinnion, Holden etc... But GJ did well & Wilson & SOD (arguably "bigger" names didn't achieve anything. So - simply put, it's daft to discount an up & coming manager - but obviously comes with risk aswell. Let's face it - most managerial appointments don't lead to any great level of success. Notably, Pearson's didn't..! A good enough job steadying the ship - but hasn't moved us on a great deal, results wise. Can another manager/coach get more from our current squad.? Who knows - but we are going to find out over then next 18 months or so - whether they are established, or up & coming really doesn't make much difference to how they are going to impact us. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Just now, lenred said: Surely he (or whoever it is) has to get top 6 at least. Those are now the parameters that have been set out. And given the in depth review provided by Harry here in these pages on how he likes to play, top 6 seems a stretch but that’s the requirement now. Lansdown will of course open the purse strings to assist him in January because he won’t want his man screwing up. Jon Lansdown was quoted as promotion didn’t be? In that case, whoever comes in needs to get the club promoted this season. Below that is failure if that is the standard being set by the club. They can’t move the goalposts to what suits them…but I’m sure they will. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Shock. Has allegedly been in mix for weeks. This is a typical Lansdown appointment. PL light years away. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, lenred said: Surely he (or whoever it is) has to get top 6 at least. Those are now the parameters that have been set out. And given the in depth review provided by Harry here in these pages on how he likes to play, top 6 seems a stretch but that’s the requirement now. Lansdown will of course open the purse strings to assist him in January because he won’t want his man screwing up. We will relax the purse strings but will still be shopping in Aldi not Waitrose. If it’s Manning he’ll be expected to propel us to the next level with signings from his knowledge of the lower leagues, guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puckle_red Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Cristored said: That’s what Ipswich said about McKenna, and he has somehow got them into 2nd with a bunch of lower end champ high end l1 players. Momentum caused by confidence in winning games in L1. This season or never for Ipswich ala us under GJ. Was hoping for a new name from nowhere. But Manning fits the 'yes man' criteria and if we chuck money at him, you never know. I would've been much more confident in giving Nige a decent budget instead. Edited November 5, 2023 by Puckle_red Grammar 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Just now, The Coach said: Jon Lansdown was quoted as promotion didn’t be? In that case, whoever comes in needs to get the club promoted this season. Below that is failure if that is the standard being set by the club. They can’t move the goalposts to what suits them…but I’m sure they will. I thought it was Top 6 but could be wrong. Either way the new man will have a tough task in his hands and many won’t forget the criteria set out that’s for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Bar BS3 said: If we had "done an Ipswich" & appointed Mckenna, a fair number of our supporters would have apparently been really disappointed & let down by the appointment. Why are people so adamant about wanting a "big name" to justify it being positive..? Any household ne manager is highly likely to have failed previously to be in an available position (Eustace could be deemed the exception) Or, we go for someone who's doing well & making a name for themselves - unlikely to poach that from our level or certainly the level above - so a manager who's doing well at the level below us isn't "uninspiring" - although, of course, it is a gamble. Without clubs taking those gambles, new big names & success stories don't happen & they soon become out of our reach for their next move. Of course, I fully understand that we have tried that route before & failed - Mcinnes, Tinnion, Holden etc... But GJ did well & Wilson & SOD (arguably "bigger" names didn't achieve anything. So - simply put, it's daft to discount an up & coming manager - but obviously comes with risk aswell. Let's face it - most managerial appointments don't lead to any great level of success. Notably, Pearson's didn't..! A good enough job steadying the ship - but hasn't moved us on a great deal, results wise. Can another manager/coach get more from our current squad.? Who knows - but we are going to find out over then next 18 months or so - whether they are established, or up & coming really doesn't make much difference to how they are going to impact us. Man Utd assistant manager or a bloke sacked by MK less than a year ago is a big difference 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 12 minutes ago, The Coach said: So if it is Manning. Will he be sacked if we fail to obtain promotion this season or fail to improve upon last season? Honestly, I fail to see any logic from the Lansdowns. Lee Johnson 2.0? I feel like dark days are returning I’m not one for defending the club at all, but he’s far far more highly regarded in the game than LJ, with a much better track record. As said before, footy fans will bemoan the likes of McKenna and Edwards being missed by their clubs, then bemoan lack of experience and ambition when appointing someone just like them. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHeadDan Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) Having moved to Oxford last year and having lots of Oxford supporting friends, I have followed them from the distance. The consensus from my freinds pre season was that they have spent a lot of money and would be promotion contenders. Started off slow and now where they should be with their financial impact. Haven't actually watched them yet so no idea on their style, however a few friends have said they have been extremely lucky to win numerous games. Apparently Rovers battered them but still managed to lose Edited November 5, 2023 by CiderHeadDan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 17 minutes ago, The Coach said: So if it is Manning. Will he be sacked if we fail to obtain promotion this season or fail to improve upon last season? Honestly, I fail to see any logic from the Lansdowns. Lee Johnson 2.0? I feel like dark days are returning Which is why is feels completely believable. Pearson to Manning, **** me, about as disappointing and underwhelming as you can get. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: If we had "done an Ipswich" & appointed Mckenna, a fair number of our supporters would have apparently been really disappointed & let down by the appointment. Why are people so adamant about wanting a "big name" to justify it being positive..? Any household ne manager is highly likely to have failed previously to be in an available position (Eustace could be deemed the exception) Or, we go for someone who's doing well & making a name for themselves - unlikely to poach that from our level or certainly the level above - so a manager who's doing well at the level below us isn't "uninspiring" - although, of course, it is a gamble. Without clubs taking those gambles, new big names & success stories don't happen & they soon become out of our reach for their next move. Of course, I fully understand that we have tried that route before & failed - Mcinnes, Tinnion, Holden etc... But GJ did well & Wilson & SOD (arguably "bigger" names didn't achieve anything. So - simply put, it's daft to discount an up & coming manager - but obviously comes with risk aswell. Let's face it - most managerial appointments don't lead to any great level of success. Notably, Pearson's didn't..! A good enough job steadying the ship - but hasn't moved us on a great deal, results wise. Can another manager/coach get more from our current squad.? Who knows - but we are going to find out over then next 18 months or so - whether they are established, or up & coming really doesn't make much difference to how they are going to impact us. Had we appointed McKenna and given him the budget Ipswich have fans might have had a different take on it albeit our patchwork side battered them for the last twenty minutes the other week. If Manning is expected to deliver with what we currently have he will fail, simple as that, but as others have said the purse strings will be loosened and the Academy Boys, what’s left of them who don’t get shoved out on loan in January, will get five minutes here and there off the bench. Its another change of plan, dress it up how they like, and the end game has been made clear. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: Man Utd assistant manager or a bloke sacked by MK less than a year ago is a big difference Yes, granted that is a different pedigree - but it's not stopped Manning doing a great job of having Oxford 2nd in the table, 3 points off the leaders, being 2nd highest scorers in the division & 2nd best goals against. That's the point - anyone could work, or anyone could fail. Just because they've done well in the past at a different club with different players, doesn't guarantee anything & most big names will have failure on their CV alongside any achievements they may have - otherwise they wouldn't be available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Just now, Cristored said: It was. It isn’t anymore. Manager makes players better. You realise how much money they spent then…… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 20 minutes ago, The Coach said: So if it is Manning. Will he be sacked if we fail to obtain promotion this season or fail to improve upon last season? Honestly, I fail to see any logic from the Lansdowns. Lee Johnson 2.0? I feel like dark days are returning It does feel like that heart sinking moment at the Valley in 2016 when we should have appointed Warnock. He went to Cardiff and took them up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Cristored said: It was. It isn’t anymore. Manager makes players better. All very simple then, nothing can go wrong. 1 minute ago, lenred said: You realise how much money they spent then…… No, they clearly don’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Numero Uno said: No, they clearly don’t. Only joined yesterday and so probably another BS bot on here to espouse the virtues of the new manager 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, CiderHeadDan said: Having moved to Oxford last year and having lots of Oxford supporting friends, I have followed them from the distance. The consensus from my freinds pre season was that they have spent a lot of money and would be promotion contenders. Started off slow and now where they should be with their financial impact. Haven't actually watched them yet so no idea on their style, however a few friends have said they have been extremely lucky to win numerous games. Apparently Rovers battered them but still managed to lose I don't know their transfer business, but Transfer market indicates they made 4 free transfer signings, some loan signings & 2 undisclosed signings. Doesn't look like they spend any if much atall...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Has he coached / managed higher than league 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 I can't keep up, we signing a German manager or Liam Manning? All this changing is doing my head in prefer it much more when we get one person in mind then find out we were all wrong .. IE Chris Houghton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHeadDan Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Maybe it was just high profile transfers that made them so optimistic. I have no idea who they have signed apart from a player caled Mark Harris. Just got the general consensus that they should be up there from every Oxford fan I've spoken to. Feel free to correct me on that, was just talking from an outside view of following them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 I don't have anything against Liam Manning - but in all honesty I know barely anything about him. Didn't we recently thrash Oxford?! Good luck to him if it is him but how that is an upgrade on Pearson? - we'll all need some convincing. I don't look for 'big names' or 'marquee signings' - but I do tend to think that experience of achieving what is required is useful...Manning has a play-off on CV...but it's a big step up. Couldn't remotely be described as an 'exciting' appointment at this point in time. 9 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Slack said: I can't keep up, we signing a German manager or Liam Manning? Both. Liam von Manning 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 On 04/11/2023 at 18:07, LondonBristolian said: Much as I wish Pearson had not been sacked, I could not give a flying **** whether the new manager is an “inspiring” appointment or not. I don’t want an “inspiring” appointment. I want a good one. The two best appointments over the last twenty years - Johnson and Cotterill - weren’t inspiring in the least but they did the bloody job. Whoever gets it - whether that be Manning or someone else - will be judged by me on their results, not how “inspiring” the appointment is. Bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 32 minutes ago, The Coach said: Quite simple. Young head coach who comes into fitting the system without rocking the boat. Another “head coach” who does not yet qualify to manage a championship club who apparently are chasing promotion. Please tell me how this is an upgrade on Pearson? Because it isn’t I didn’t say it was an upgrade on pearson, but it’s just lazy to say it’s Lee Johnson all over again. two different managers with two different ways of playing. You are supposed to be the coach I would’ve thought you would know this already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galley is our king Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Red Exile said: I don't have anything against Liam Manning - but in all honesty I know barely anything about him. Didn't we recently thrash Oxford?! Good luck to him if it is him but how that is an upgrade on Pearson? - we'll all need some convincing. I don't look for 'big names' or 'marquee signings' - but I do tend to think that experience of achieving what is required is useful...Manning has a play-off on CV...but it's a big step up. Couldn't remotely be described as an 'exciting' appointment at this point in time. This.. The more I read the more depressing the whole situation is and the ridiculous decision to sack Nige becomes more and more ******* stupid! Anyone like this and the owner (who I have fully supported, and thanked him to his face) deserves all the stick coming his way. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 24 minutes ago, CiderHeadDan said: Having moved to Oxford last year and having lots of Oxford supporting friends, I have followed them from the distance. The consensus from my freinds pre season was that they have spent a lot of money and would be promotion contenders. Started off slow and now where they should be with their financial impact. Haven't actually watched them yet so no idea on their style, however a few friends have said they have been extremely lucky to win numerous games. Apparently Rovers battered them but still managed to lose According to transfermarkt they haven’t spent a penny on a player for the last 4 windows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfitInMyPocket Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 I don't even remember Tinnion or anyone saying the words "inspiring" or "exciting" appointment. Where's that come from? I've got nothing against Manning coming in if it is him and i'm pretty sure this is the type of appointment the hierarchy want. Just would prefer something a bit different like a foreign coach to come in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 1 minute ago, And Its Smith said: According to transfermarkt they haven’t spent a penny on a player for the last 4 windows That'll be the clincher then. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 38 minutes ago, Cristored said: That’s what Ipswich said about McKenna, and he has somehow got them into 2nd with a bunch of lower end champ high end l1 players. Ipswich were in a right mess, we are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnheadbcfc Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 13 minutes ago, Red Exile said: I don't have anything against Liam Manning - but in all honesty I know barely anything about him. Didn't we recently thrash Oxford?! Good luck to him if it is him but how that is an upgrade on Pearson? - we'll all need some convincing. I don't look for 'big names' or 'marquee signings' - but I do tend to think that experience of achieving what is required is useful...Manning has a play-off on CV...but it's a big step up. Couldn't remotely be described as an 'exciting' appointment at this point in time. That game was very much oxford could of scored 3 or 4 in first half but we took our chances second half wasn't it ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Robin Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 23 minutes ago, One Team said: Which is why is feels completely believable. Pearson to Manning, **** me, about as disappointing and underwhelming as you can get. Pearson to 'anyone' will never be any good for many on here. Yes, I appreciate the disappointment of Pearson going, but you need to accept that he's gone and instead of dissing every new manager suggestion, try and come up with something a little bit more positive - and perhaps a name that you would like. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHeadDan Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: According to transfermarkt they haven’t spent a penny on a player for the last 4 windows Probably should have checked before i posted! Just going with the locals expectations based on signings. Naive from me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinforlife2 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 If his odds shorten from 5/2 with SkyBet, I am to blame. I had £10 on Lampard at 16/1 earlier in the week and also have had £5 Curtis Flemming at 20/1 and £5 Danny Cowley @ 33/1. So to have some coverage, I've just had £25 on Manning at 5/2. See if my £25 can move the market further. FWIW, I don't think Manning will leave Oxford for us, and if a deal had been done, I would have thought there would have been a leak of some sort Oxford's end. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayfield8 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Absolutely nothing exciting about a league one yes man. This really feels like LJ 2.0 I hope we don't roll over and take this like all the other, cheap, yes men appointments after being lied to by the Lansdowns at the beginning of the process. But who am I kidding of course we will. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHeadDan Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) Still have the view of an underwhelming appointment, however there isn't many who excites! Lampard only excites for the potential players he could advertise / the TV coverage we would get. Apart from that, I cant say I've been excited by any names (maybe excluding Will Still) as it seems like groundhog day... I was underwhelmed by Cotts so I'm not going to riot or fantasise as there are too many variables the average fan doesn't understand. Edited November 5, 2023 by CiderHeadDan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Just now, robinforlife2 said: If his odds shorten from 5/2 with SkyBet, I am to blame. I had £10 on Lampard at 16/1 earlier in the week and also have had £5 Curtis Flemming at 20/1 and £5 Danny Cowley @ 33/1. So to have some coverage, I've just had £25 on Manning at 5/2. See if my £25 can move the market further. FWIW, I don't think Manning will leave Oxford for us, and if a deal had been done, I would have thought there would have been a leak of some sort Oxford's end. Agree re Manning as whoever comes in, will also be bringing in their own back room team too….often, these are the same people they are currently working with - rumours would surely have been out there by now if we were about to poach Manning and some of his back room staff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC1512 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, robinforlife2 said: If his odds shorten from 5/2 with SkyBet, I am to blame. I had £10 on Lampard at 16/1 earlier in the week and also have had £5 Curtis Flemming at 20/1 and £5 Danny Cowley @ 33/1. So to have some coverage, I've just had £25 on Manning at 5/2. See if my £25 can move the market further. FWIW, I don't think Manning will leave Oxford for us, and if a deal had been done, I would have thought there would have been a leak of some sort Oxford's end. If you don’t think he’ll come why on earth have you put £25 on haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galley is our king Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, Top Robin said: Pearson to 'anyone' will never be any good for many on here. Yes, I appreciate the disappointment of Pearson going, but you need to accept that he's gone and instead of dissing every new manager suggestion, try and come up with something a little bit more positive - and perhaps a name that you would like. Sorry Doctor.... Be more positive... mmmm Oh yes... I'm absolutely positive you are a ****!! That good enough for you? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Loosey Boy said: Agree re Manning as whoever comes in, will also be bringing in their own back room team too….often, these are the same people they are currently working with - rumours would surely have been out there by now if we were about to poach Manning and some of his back room staff Aren't you currently posting in a topic discussing that very rumour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) Know nothing about Manning but he seems to fit the bill of what the powers that be would like. Doesn’t on paper seem like an upgrade on Pearson, all you can do is judge the new man on results.. who knows it could be an inspired appointment for once. Edited November 5, 2023 by Bris Red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Top Robin said: Pearson to 'anyone' will never be any good for many on here. Yes, I appreciate the disappointment of Pearson going, but you need to accept that he's gone and instead of dissing every new manager suggestion, try and come up with something a little bit more positive - and perhaps a name that you would like. No, you are probably right in your first point. I’ve accepted he’s gone; along with thinking it’s yet another ridiculous decision from utter incompetence. Maybe Pearson will be back at some point, in the meantime someone with actual proven success at this level would be a start in terms of replacement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinforlife2 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Taunton_BCFC said: If you don’t think he’ll come why on earth have you put £25 on haha Got about £2K in my SkyBet account, and I stand to lose £20 on the market already, so covering some other angles. It's only money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 46 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: If we had "done an Ipswich" & appointed Mckenna, a fair number of our supporters would have apparently been really disappointed & let down by the appointment. Why are people so adamant about wanting a "big name" to justify it being positive..? Any household ne manager is highly likely to have failed previously to be in an available position (Eustace could be deemed the exception) Or, we go for someone who's doing well & making a name for themselves - unlikely to poach that from our level or certainly the level above - so a manager who's doing well at the level below us isn't "uninspiring" - although, of course, it is a gamble. Without clubs taking those gambles, new big names & success stories don't happen & they soon become out of our reach for their next move. Of course, I fully understand that we have tried that route before & failed - Mcinnes, Tinnion, Holden etc... But GJ did well & Wilson & SOD (arguably "bigger" names didn't achieve anything. So - simply put, it's daft to discount an up & coming manager - but obviously comes with risk aswell. Let's face it - most managerial appointments don't lead to any great level of success. Notably, Pearson's didn't..! A good enough job steadying the ship - but hasn't moved us on a great deal, results wise. Can another manager/coach get more from our current squad.? Who knows - but we are going to find out over then next 18 months or so - whether they are established, or up & coming really doesn't make much difference to how they are going to impact us. Who is asking for a big name ? The only big name has been Lampard and that hasn't exactly been met with enthusiasm. I think what people are asking for is what they said they would deliver - inspiring, exciting, etc etc. So, a head coach with a CV which includes some successes at a decent level. If they get rid of such a manager/coach, they need to replace him with at least his equal. Someone inspiring, exciting, etc etc. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Robin Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Galley is our king said: Sorry Doctor.... Be more positive... mmmm Oh yes... I'm absolutely positive you are a ****!! That good enough for you? You seem to be not a very nice person 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnr1986 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 If it is Manning it’s really uninspiring appointment, always feels like lansdown is trying to copy other clubs, rather than actually sourcing the right man for our club, would of taken Lampard , Jones, Beadle all over Manning personally 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherrich Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Cheap appointment. Pay peanuts …... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, ProfitInMyPocket said: I don't even remember Tinnion or anyone saying the words "inspiring" or "exciting" appointment. Where's that come from? I've got nothing against Manning coming in if it is him and i'm pretty sure this is the type of appointment the hierarchy want. Just would prefer something a bit different like a foreign coach to come in. You've either not got a good memory or just haven't seen interviews or twitter. Edited November 5, 2023 by bcfc01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Where has this German link come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Johnr1986 said: If it is Manning it’s really uninspiring appointment, always feels like lansdown is trying to copy other clubs, rather than actually sourcing the right man for our club, would of taken Lampard , Jones, Beadle all over Manning personally Yep, it shows that they couldn’t handle Pearson and just want another “yes” man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 20 hours ago, bcfc01 said: JL also said it wouldn't be an uninspiring appointment.. Manning may well be a good appointment, not sure, but with all due respect I wouldn't call it an inspiring appointment by any stretch (if he is appointed of course). JL said Holden was the best man for the job three years ago and from recent interviews, it doesn’t look like he’s sharpened up since. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Lew-T said: Where has this German link come from? Manning did a DNA ancestry test. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galley is our king Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Top Robin said: You seem to be not a very nice person Oh I do apologise, I never knew you were around 12 years old. I mean no one older would post that would they? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, Lew-T said: Where has this German link come from? A couple of ‘ITKs’ dropped it in and haven’t really gave any details. Theres a lot of people saying what isn’t happening, truth is, I don’t think anyone really knows. I think it’s unlikely it will be tomorrow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cov 77 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 55 minutes ago, The Coach said: Jon Lansdown was quoted as promotion didn’t be? In that case, whoever comes in needs to get the club promoted this season. Below that is failure if that is the standard being set by the club. They can’t move the goalposts to what suits them…but I’m sure they will. Behave , I don’t like him either , certainly wanted Nige to stay , but whoever comes in will need some time but hopefully get us near this year, but to hang them out to dry because Lansdown says we have a top six squad is unfair 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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