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3 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:
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And I will gain some negativity if, at the very least, he has the same record as Nige since 2016 but, of course, Liam won't last a full season here if he doesn't improve results and ends up with the same track record as NP..

What is it with you that you seem to think that NP won the world club championship with us??? It's like an obsession.

He did a solid job, he addressed some major issues but was sacked with us in a worse League position than Johnson and Holden. But that hides the good things he did yet exposes the bad.

Mann up.

 

Let me clarify, by the same record as Pearson I meant the record Nigel had this season, not over the past few years. I thought that was obvious. 

Mann up? Really? 

9 minutes ago, Cristored said:

Pathetic.

Unless you're going to tell us who you are, f off.

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1 minute ago, Cristored said:

Pathetic.

Why? Wasn't the whole point of sacking Pearson and appointing Manning that the club expects him to do a better job?

I'll back him and reserve judgement but if the club think the squad is good enough for the top 6 he has to outperform Nigel surely?

Jon is now talking about not putting him under pressure but making those kinds of claims put pressure on before he even got the job.

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4 hours ago, CiderJar said:

Interview innit...

https://www.bcfc.co.uk/video/manning-on-bringing-passion-pride-and-drive/

I must say there were a couple of comments in there which had given me O’Driscoll vibes. The bit where he states he’s not focusing on outcomes - I understand what he’s trying to say, yet it brings back horrible memories of when SO’D said he wasn’t looking at the league table (despite the fact we were in the relegation slots!!). That said, there are bits in there which “align” to Pearson. The setting of culture, often one of the more challenging tasks he’d expect, has been done for him. He has a solid platform to work with. I get the impression he’s in between LJ and NP with the way he is trying to articulate his thoughts. Which I am on board with. 
 

With a lot of frustration towards the board currently, I really hope he hits the ground running as managing (sorry, head coaching) the likes of West Ham U’23, MK and Oxford will be a different kettle of fish to us. I hope he’ll build himself up some credit before we inevitably endure a patch of poorer form. 

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1 minute ago, Cristored said:

Only by people like you who are foolish enough to not ignore Lansdowns fake news, he wasn’t sacked because of results he was sacked because they had enough of him.

Why not be brave and say that to the media then Jon? Instead of making yourself look like a 🍆 ? 

Kinda pathetic isn't it? 

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Just now, Cristored said:

Only by people like you who are foolish enough to not ignore Lansdowns fake news, he wasn’t sacked because of results he was sacked because they had enough of him.

So Jon is a liar then. Helpful to have that confirmed by somebody from the club though.

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Jon Lansdown -

Needs to smarten up. Looked a tramp who just woke up compared to Manning in the photos. 
If you ignore he can’t speak to a live audience (which is a big ask) he looked far more comfortable than when announcing Holden. It does seem there is a plan. However that plan has including bare faced lies and deception. There is room in the budget, just not for Nige. He has backtracked on promotion talk. He said if we don’t get promotion, then the coach doesn’t go (along those lines), but that’s the stick they used to sack Nige.

Liam Manning -

He is a tough listen. It might warm up but I won’t be rushing to watch the Thursday press conferences for now. Any comparisons to LJ is bizarre. This guy has clearly put in the hard yards to get a Championship job, unlike LJ. He seems far more assured of his methods. I am always abit suspicious when young managers move up too quickly without finishing jobs, eg Russell Martin/Michael Beale. Be under no illusions, if he is offered a job by a team with parachute payments, he’ll be gone. We will see if it works. Good luck to him.

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47 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said:

Yeah he seems like an impressive guy. Am looking forward to his tenure

 

46 minutes ago, samo II said:

They never were ‘expecting’ a top six spot even with Pearson, I don’t think.

While it’s happened now, that was just the language they needed to try and soften the sacking, and the timing was as they knew we stood a good chance to beating Weds and QPR and didn’t want to sack a guy they didn’t like who had us at the brink of a playoff spot.

But it’s gone now: the sour taste remains and I’m not suggesting we forgive and forget, but Manning didn’t fire Pearson, and we have to see what he is about.

Without being flippant, you hope it’s a Ranieri scenario where what Pearson built ends up the foundation for what his successor achieves, as he’s undoubtedly left a better legacy than the he arrived to, but we can only see.

I’ll be disappointed if we go into the tank now, but equally can’t imagine without injury luck changing and some dramatic and unexpected spending that we’ll be challenging, but stranger things have happened.

He has my support as they all do at the start.

They didn’t like the way NP questioned things clearly. Yes person mode definitely in place already. 

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8 minutes ago, Cristored said:

Why they tried to blame the results part is beyond me, stupid. 

Well they weren’t going to come out and be honest about the reason were they, anybody that thought that is naive to the extreme.

The fanbase has been treated with absolute disdain and contempt for a long long time now by Mr Lansdown, it peaked for me when the words ‘its my club i will do what i like with it’ were uttered out of his mouth not too long ago. 

Anyway i sincerely hope this works out and as i’ve said in a previous post first impressions of Manning he does come across well. Means absolutely F all though untill we see results coming in so i will reserve judgement, hell of a lot of pressure on the bloke - i hope him and his team can deliver.

 

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I wish LM all the best but it is fantasy to think he is going to get us promoted with our current squad this season. However good a coach you can only do so much and there are many far superior squads in the championship than ours. LM was fortunate enough to be working with some of the best players in League One and without doubt had them playing to their potential and hence their league position but the championship is a very different proposition. Like I say I really wish him well but I think it will be a very short tenure. 

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8 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Let me clarify, by the same record as Pearson I meant the record Nigel had this season, not over the past few years. I thought that was obvious. 

Mann up? Really? 

 

I don't think it's obvious. Genuinely- please explain his record this season?

For the (my)record: win or lose what impressed me this season is that the team played for each other and fought to the end and win or lose, were imo, fit to wear the shirt. Trouble being that I genuinely think that Nige had reached the end of the road and  was on his way out- one way or another. His health issues tipped the balance both for him and BCFC.

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10 minutes ago, Cristored said:

Why they tried to blame the results part is beyond me, stupid. 

For the avoidance of doubt since you called me foolish for believing them I didn't believe a word they said.

But unless they admit they lied their statements are out there and they will be judged on them. Though if things go wrong they will avoid responsibility and let Manning take the heat of course.

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11 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

I don't think it's obvious. Genuinely- please explain his record this season?

For the (my)record: win or lose what impressed me this season is that the team played for each other and fought to the end and win or lose, were imo, fit to wear the shirt. Trouble being that I genuinely think that Nige had reached the end of the road and  was on his way out- one way or another. His health issues tipped the balance both for him and BCFC.

Bizarrely what you have written is why I think we were not at the end of the road. The players running through brick walls was a continued improvement on last season. That sort of ethic is what helps a team to out perform their ability.

Will that ethic continue under Manning? We'll have to see. 

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Came across pretty good to me. 

Anyone that thinks were getting top 6 this season or Lansdown,Tinnion believe that are in cloud cuckoo land.

Unless it's a total disaster the man's here next season.

The year MK got to the play offs i can remember their last league game that season. Away to Plymouth with Argyle needing to win to make the play offs.

MK won 6/0 or 6/1 at Home Park with a master class of football.

If  Manning can bring that style of football to Ashton Gate that would be something to look forward to.

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On 06/11/2023 at 12:33, Galley is our king said:

Joined on Saturday..... 18 posts!

Putin been recruiting again?

It really is a ******* disgrace....

I've noticed alot of new names on here supporting the regime since the Nige situation exploded, normally I would say I could smell Gas, but now I smell BS

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13 minutes ago, bristol red said:

We need a pacy strong CF. A creative midfielder and a CB who can play out from the back… then we might stand a chance!

Dickie, Vyner, Naismith and Atkinson can all play out from the back.

Agree about a creative midfielder though.

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Ok, so I quite liked how he spoke in the press conference. The proof is in the pudding however....

My issue was never going to be with the head coach that comes in though and always with the structure above. 

I look forward to watching us play, seeing how he changes things, and hopefully brings in entertaining/successful times. 

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5 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

and most with the word Red in their username.

That's the clue, isn't it.

For instance, none of these c.u.n.t.s. know who Geoff Merrick is so don't have the wherewithal to invent a suitable username. Instead they have to use Red this and Red that, Unclethis and Unclec.u.n.t.that.

After the game on Saturday, leaving the Grandstand, we bumped into the man himself. Blew him a kiss. Made my day. What a man.

Captain, my Captain!

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59 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:
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Bristol City 24 February 2021 29 October 2023 131 42 32 57 32.0

 

And I will gain some negativity if, at the very least, he has the same record as Nige since 2016 but, of course, Liam won't last a full season here if he doesn't improve results and ends up with the same track record as NP..

What is it with you that you seem to think that NP won the world club championship with us??? It's like an obsession.

He did a solid job, he addressed some major issues but was sacked with us in a worse League position than Johnson and Holden. But that hides the good things he did yet exposes the bad.

Mann up.

 

Your acting like he had the same transfer funds as johnson 🙄 the whole reason everyone loved pearson was because of the job he did with no funds... his win record means nothing if hes not backed.

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Your acting like he had the same transfer funds as johnson 🙄 the whole reason everyone loved pearson was because of the job he did with no funds... his win record means nothing if hes not backed.

Who mentioned Johnson other than you?

The discussion was about about Manning's and NP's record not spending.

The old LJ chat just indicates you need to move on from that . Oh, and by the way - how's the worst person in BCFC history getting on at Ipswich?

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16 minutes ago, bristol red said:

I agree but need another.. two of those have injury issues and to get promoted as promised by JL we will need another

Both will be back soon. Not needed. 

They aren't sick notes, plus we only play 2.

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23 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

Who mentioned Johnson other than you?

The discussion was about about Manning's and NP's record not spending.

The old LJ chat just indicates you need to move on from that . Oh, and by the way - how's the worst person in BCFC history getting on at Ipswich?

Will the wage budget be getting kept fairly static save for say TV money rises, and only 1/5 to 1/3 of fees gained be reinvested in much like NP..Still working on the 4 seasons and the overall.

We didn't reinvest 100% but pushing towards it.

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2 hours ago, Andy082005 said:

I find it genuinely weird how some people are acting. Yes - it wasn’t great how ‘Nige’ was treated, but the cold harsh reality is the football was bang average and the results the same 

Anyone would think we had just let the messiah go 

People have been brainwashed 

I don’t think it’s about that. It doesn’t have to be the Messiah to recognise when a manager is poorly treated.  It’s the principle in the way the sacking came about and their reasons for the sacking etc. 

 

Don’t think I’ve read any comment saying NP was perfect or even getting the results we wanted, but it seemed reasonable to allow him the time of his contract to see what he could have now done, especially with the returning players. 

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56 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

 

They didn’t like the way NP questioned things clearly. Yes person mode definitely in place already. 

If you had listened to his presser, you will see that a young manager with that much drive, ambition and knowledge will never be a 'yes' man to anyone or allow anyone to divert him from the path he is on. 

He was really impressive and so articulate. 

He knows where he is heading and nothing is going to get in his way, and we could be on that journey with him.

 

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9 minutes ago, JP Hampton said:

I don’t think it’s about that. It doesn’t have to be the Messiah to recognise when a manager is poorly treated.  It’s the principle in the way the sacking came about and their reasons for the sacking etc. 

 

Don’t think I’ve read any comment saying NP was perfect or even getting the results we wanted, but it seemed reasonable to allow him the time of his contract to see what he could have now done, especially with the returning players. 

Spot on.

Its usually a “lazy” context-lacking retort at someone who thinks Nige has done a decent job because they can’t accept THERE IS CONTEXT.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

Spot on.

Its usually a “lazy” context-lacking retort at someone who thinks Nige has done a decent job because they can’t accept THERE IS CONTEXT.

 

 

Indeed. Nigel Love Fest the Cult of Nige etc etc. 

I don’t know why it’s so difficult to understand someone’s perspective of fair play, without it being described as such. As you say “lazy”!

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4 hours ago, ralphindevon said:

I make that my 23rd appointed full time, not caretaker/interim manager as an attending City fan.

If you started supporting City between Oct 1967 and September 1980 you’ll have the same number as me, such was the longevity of Alan Dicks.

The first man on that list took us to the top, good luck Liam, here’s hoping you become the next. 

I haven’t actually counted them, although I am sure you are correct, but I’ve got one more than you, having watched Fred Ford manage City in John Atyeo’s final season.

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6 minutes ago, Top Robin said:

If you had listened to his presser, you will see that a young manager with that much drive, ambition and knowledge will never be a 'yes' man to anyone or allow anyone to divert him from the path he is on. 

He was really impressive and so articulate. 

He knows where he is heading and nothing is going to get in his way, and we could be on that journey with him.

 

This is his biggest opportunity to do something in his management career so far, Decent championship side with good fan base I think a good squad with a few additions in Jan he must be over the moon to have this chance I am quietly excited. 

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10 minutes ago, Top Robin said:

If you had listened to his presser, you will see that a young manager with that much drive, ambition and knowledge will never be a 'yes' man to anyone or allow anyone to divert him from the path he is on. 

He was really impressive and so articulate. 

He knows where he is heading and nothing is going to get in his way, and we could be on that journey with him.

 

Really? Another brainwashed individual… 

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27 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Will the wage budget be getting kept fairly static save for say TV money rises, and only 1/5 to 1/3 of fees gained be reinvested in much like NP..Still working on the 4 seasons and the overall.

We didn't reinvest 100% but pushing towards it.

But that wasn't the conversation- you just created it. It wasn't about how much LJ spent v LM- it was about track records. Check the exchange- if you want to discuss LJ's spending v LJ then just repost one of your previous. LM has spent nothing yet and I was discussing Liam.

26 minutes ago, stephenkibby. said:

Time you let it go .Getting as bad as fans craving Pearson coming back.

Unless you really enjoy these petty spats?

Really? So if someone is 100% negative regarding the club, the owners and the new Coach - I should let it go? Nope- ain't gonna happen but , hey, get yourself a few likes.

NP has gone. Get over it/yourself and welcome Liam Manning.

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On 06/11/2023 at 13:54, supercidered said:

I wouldn't. No.

Having listened to Manning’s interviews, are you still devoid of optimism, feeling just a bit excited, maybe a little intrigued?

I thought he’s come across well, showed good insight across multiple dynamics, yet without LJ’s bull and smugness.

Of course, proof of pudding will be on the pitch. Still a massive gamble of course, but might work.

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Just now, Scrumpty said:

Having listened to Manning’s interviews, are you still devoid of optimism, feeling just a bit excited, maybe a little intrigued?

I thought he’s come across well, showed good insight across multiple dynamics, yet without LJ’s bull and smugness.

Of course, proof of pudding will be on the pitch. Still a massive gamble of course, but might work.

With the poison on here if we lose Saturday he will get pelters , but in reality not down to him anymore than if we win 3-0 

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18 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Spot on.

Its usually a “lazy” context-lacking retort at someone who thinks Nige has done a decent job because they can’t accept THERE IS CONTEXT.

 

 

Agreed, and I don't think many think he didn't do at worst a decent job, but there are a few (probably about a balance of the "new" people that seem to have appeared) that are going completely the other way, you cannot for example go around pointing out a gazillion times that Manning got sacked from MK dons so must be shit while at the same time saying Nige was the best thing since sliced bread, you can't I gore context in one area while preaching it in another. 

If anyone does not have doubts that we have made the right decision to get rid of Nige (irrespective of the bloody dreadful way it was done) is mental, but equally anyone who didn't have doubts that Nige could kick on is equally as blinkered. 

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If Manning does the incredible by gaining us promotion after hefty injection of cash in January, then I fear this could be Cotts all over again, ie promotion and then no backing, despair from Manning, followed by sacking.

Do hope Manning turns out to be the real thing but then he will have to deal with SL and JL, anxious to sell and not anxious to invest in players

 

The problem with the club is not the manager or head coach, but the Ls and now we find Tinnion too

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1 minute ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

But that wasn't the conversation- you just created it. It wasn't about how much LJ spent v LM- it was about track records. Check the exchange- if you want to discuss LJ's spending v LJ then just repost one of your previous. LM has spent nothing yet and I was discussing Liam.

Really? So if someone is 100% negative regarding the club, the owners and the new Coach - I should let it go? Nope- ain't gonna happen but , hey, get yourself a few likes.

NP has gone. Get over it/yourself and welcome Liam Manning.

good god you think i want a few likes? you haven't seen my thoughts on Manning.

Carry on mate pretty sure i'v made one comment on Pearson's sacking.

Feel your boots and check it out,you seem to have a history of that.

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19 minutes ago, red colin said:

This is his biggest opportunity to do something in his management career so far, Decent championship side with good fan base I think a good squad with a few additions in Jan he must be over the moon to have this chance I am quietly excited. 

If the squad is already good enough for the top 6 logically we shouldn't need any signings.

In any event we were told we've reached the limit of our wage budget so presumably we can't afford them anyway.

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I would describe Manning's first interviews as alright/fine/average.

Nothing to get either excited or concerned about yet. 

What matters is how he talks to the players and if he can get them fit, focused and playing well.

Let's see...

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7 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

If Manning does the incredible by gaining us promotion after hefty injection of cash in January, then I fear this could be Cotts all over again, ie promotion and then no backing, despair from Manning, followed by sacking.

Do hope Manning turns out to be the real thing but then he will have to deal with SL and JL, anxious to sell and not anxious to invest in players

 

The problem with the club is not the manager or head coach, but the Ls and now we find Tinnion too

Rarely have you ever been 'we'.

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50 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

Who mentioned Johnson other than you?

The discussion was about about Manning's and NP's record not spending.

The old LJ chat just indicates you need to move on from that . Oh, and by the way - how's the worst person in BCFC history getting on at Ipswich?

We've gone back to the head coach model. LJ was a HC from League One, same sort of age as LM and had achieved nothing either. 

The comparisons towards the two and more importantly the HC model are valid in my opinion. 

Hard to move on from the pain of that failed project when its possible we are once again going down the same route, dont you think? 

What worries me is that LM and our current squad may not be aligned. Laat summer he demanded from the Oxford board that they allow him to rebuild by bringing in something like 10 players because he didn't think he had the right players to play the way he wanted. 

If LM is happy to work with what he has got and only receive minimal funds then fair play. However if he demands to rebuild then that firmly puts him in the LJ category and it's something I'm deeply worried about. 

22 minutes ago, Not Banksy said:

Just thinking... can't be many situations where a new manager (head coach) comes in after a sacking with the team 4 points off the play offs.

And for me this is why he needs to hit the ground running. No bullshit about needing new players or time to implement his own processes etc. 

We were 4 points off the play offs with a severely depleted squad. I'm confident that we'd have been in them with a near fully fit squad. 

But Nige has gone now so it's up to LM to deliver a better League position than 4 points off the play offs. 

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