Fordy62 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Just now, Big C said: but for every Sammie Szmodics there is a Hakeeb Adelakun Oh Christ. Another one I’d banished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 This is what generates "atmosphere," this sort of football (with something immediately at stake, helps too). The tedious "possession" shite can get tae **** give us chaos like this, fer fs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 4 minutes ago, Big C said: but for every Sammie Szmodics there is a Hakeeb Adelakun Scoring for Doncaster though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 22 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Where are Coventry in the league?! Unbelievable as it seems - and of course we couldn't afford him (so good luck with that Coventry) and he was rubbish for us - Manningball appears to be the future and what that style of football requires, and what we lack to make it work, is a technical, creative ACM who can receive the ball in tight, central areas, on the half turn, and then feed passes forwards to our attackers. That type of player would transform us. That type of player is Kasey Palmer. Nuts. He’s only started 11 league games for them this season, 9 more appearances as a sub, scored just one with 2 assists. We need that type, but even at a club where the manager & coaching staff clearly rate him, he’s still not seen as the answer. For me (& I know at least one regular poster dislikes him intensely) Jamie Paterson was twice the player that he was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 OTIB thread about him, starts holding him hamstring an hour later, it's fate 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totterdown's Finest Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 How on earth are Blackburn below us in the league!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Just now, Totterdown's Finest said: How on earth are Blackburn below us in the league!? A few were probably saying that after seeing us vs West Ham or Soton, that's just football I guess 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 8 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said: This is what generates "atmosphere," this sort of football (with something immediately at stake, helps too). The tedious "possession" shite can get tae **** give us chaos like this, fer fs Yep, would’ve far preferred ‘Eustace’ Ball. And like Smodzics, that’s not hindsight either, it’s on record! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) That's why we got rid...... Edited February 27 by Super 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecko Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Glad we binned him off! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Is that Keith Downing on the Blackburn staff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 2 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Is that Keith Downing on the Blackburn staff? Yep assistant coach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrizzler Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, Rob k said: It will always amaze me this one, and it’s not hindsight either, those who know me will know I’ve moaned about this for a long time So have I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyCity Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 2 hours ago, Fordy62 said: I had forgotten about MW! Currently doing well in the SPL under Derek McInnes at Kilmarnock. Sitting in 4th which, given their budget, is a minor miracle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 2 hours ago, Ecko said: Glad we binned him off! I did have a sly smile when he missed the pen ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgrsimon Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 3 hours ago, GrahamC said: He’s only started 11 league games for them this season, 9 more appearances as a sub, scored just one with 2 assists. We need that type, but even at a club where the manager & coaching staff clearly rate him, he’s still not seen as the answer. For me (& I know at least one regular poster dislikes him intensely) Jamie Paterson was twice the player that he was. Think Palmer was injured for a fair while earlier in the season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgrsimon Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Szmodics and Chris Martin must have scored almost as many between them as our entire team this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Rightly or wrongly SS never did the business for us and not many were crying in their Bovril when he was sold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 6 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Rightly or wrongly SS never did the business for us and not many were crying in their Bovril when he was sold. He played 3 times for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 9 hours ago, Davefevs said: Remember the Florida game v Derby before the lightning…he looked good, but in a deeper role than he’s playing these days. That's my memory. When he did play it was deeper (no.10). Seemed to be competing with KP for the same position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, Sir Geoff said: That's my memory. When he did play it was deeper (no.10). Seemed to be competing with KP for the same position. Correct, signed SS early close-season, then KP just before the season started, that meant Paterson got loaned to Derby. It was onky when he went to Peterboro permanently that he played right up top. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutton Caveman Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 11 hours ago, cityexile said: Have to say, looked the class player on the pitch tonight. Yes but it too a long time with several clubs unable to unlock the talent. Sometimes it just clicks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutton Caveman Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 7 hours ago, fgrsimon said: Szmodics and Chris Martin must have scored almost as many between them as our entire team this season? Ate you suggesting that Chris Martin could still do it at Championship level? As we see with Mehmeti, there is a huge gap between L1 and the Championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherrich Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Just sums up the sh*te show at AG in recent years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 I have to say when he played for us looked very ordinary, I don't think anyone was too upset when we let him go. Hindsight's a wonderful thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 14 hours ago, Robbored said: Blame LJ for allowing Szmodics to leave. At the time it was suggested that City were after Ivan Toney so Sammie was allowed to go to P'boro' as a sweetener for a future deal. Trouble is Posh wanted £8 million, but City would only offer six, so Ivan T went off to Brentford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 59 minutes ago, ashton_fan said: I have to say when he played for us looked very ordinary, I don't think anyone was too upset when we let him go. Hindsight's a wonderful thing! Of course. That's why football clubs employ, and pay handsomely, professionals for their foresight. Get the best in the business at your club making these decisions and good times will follow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, ashton_fan said: I have to say when he played for us looked very ordinary, I don't think anyone was too upset when we let him go. Hindsight's a wonderful thing! Which of the 108 minutes he played did you think he looked poor in? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, 22A said: At the time it was suggested that City were after Ivan Toney so Sammie was allowed to go to P'boro' as a sweetener for a future deal. Trouble is Posh wanted £8 million, but City would only offer six, so Ivan T went off to Brentford. Mark Ashton was involved in that deal and refused to meet the asking price. I wasn’t aware that Szmodics was a part of the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 2 hours ago, ashton_fan said: I have to say when he played for us looked very ordinary, I don't think anyone was too upset when we let him go. Hindsight's a wonderful thing! I wouldn't say that, many very much liked the look of Szmodics, couldn't understand why LJ had never given him a proper chance, and thought the club would regret letting him go. Others just said he was an Eisa/Adelukan type punt which hadn't worked out and well done the club and MA for making a profit. There was a general acceptance that we had too many midfielders, DH wasn't going to play him (either), so better for all parties if he moved on ... but make sure there was a good sell on. That's my take anyway from what became his departure thread from Aug/Sept 2020: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, Fordy62 said: Which of the 108 minutes he played did you think he looked poor in? I didn't say he looked poor, he just didn't do anything outstanding, not enough to justify his place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 If he was still here he'd be in the Sam Bell role and would have scored nothing like the number of goals he's managed at Blackburn. I actually believe we do better than most clubs in passing on players as most do very little. Adelakun, now at Doncaster, is one who's hardly set the EFL alight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, ashton_fan said: I didn't say he looked poor, he just didn't do anything outstanding, not enough to justify his place. 3 bloody games ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 minute ago, slartibartfast said: 3 bloody games ? So you were complaining that you wanted him kept on in 2020? Most of his experience was in L2 at that point, he had no Championship experience before he came to us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 3 minutes ago, ashton_fan said: So you were complaining that you wanted him kept on in 2020? Most of his experience was in L2 at that point, he had no Championship experience before he came to us I was complaining, where ? Got the wrong bloke there . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 18 hours ago, Sheltons Army said: You probably had a far longer view Lrrr but I saw him in U21 ganevatbthe Gate after he arrived and he showed everything he is now in terms of being a livewire , ability to beat a man , quick feet , and busy busy busy - he probably worked harder than I’ve ever seen for a player in U21 games The only thing absent in that game was his finishing Ge certainly has improved but at the time he looked as if he could have a real X factor once he broke into regular starts Shame He looked pretty lost in his one league start (v Swansea) and just totally didn't impose himself in his two quite lengthy sub appearances thereafter. That said, 3 league and one cup game is not enough time to totally write off and clearly another loan rather than just selling him would - in hindsight - have been a better option. He was with us 5 years ago and although he'd done great at L2 level with Colchester, I didn't necessarily see how he'd develop. Other players who looked exciting prospects for us five years ago, have not pulled up any trees since. It's an inexact science predicting how young players will develop and I'm not going to beat up anyone at the club at the time who saw what I did - a L2 player who looked like he was really struggling to adapt to Championship football. Szmodics is 28 now and right on what is usually the peak performance year as a striker. You can do no more than shrug your shoulders and say the time and place just wasn't right here in 2019. Over the 50+ years I've followed City there are lots like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 20 minutes ago, Tim Monaghan said: Because we weren't actually that bad. Amended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveInSA Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 22 hours ago, Sheltons Army said: You probably had a far longer view Lrrr but I saw him in U21 ganevatbthe Gate after he arrived and he showed everything he is now in terms of being a livewire , ability to beat a man , quick feet , and busy busy busy - he probably worked harder than I’ve ever seen for a player in U21 games The only thing absent in that game was his finishing Ge certainly has improved but at the time he looked as if he could have a real X factor once he broke into regular starts Shame You’re an absolute marvel if that word is in your dictionary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgrsimon Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) 13 hours ago, Clutton Caveman said: Ate you suggesting that Chris Martin could still do it at Championship level? As we see with Mehmeti, there is a huge gap between L1 and the Championship I wasn't expecting him to do anything at Rovers to be honest, thought he was over the hill! He did score a couple for QPR at the end of last season IIRC so I'm wondering if he could still get goals in last 20 mins of game as a sub. Martin never had any pace to lose. Whichever way you look at it, 14 goals in 24 games from a standing start is pretty exceptional. I couldn't see Cornick getting those kind of figures in L2. Edited February 28 by fgrsimon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leabrook Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Should have kept him on for years, giving him a new contract just in case he came good in his late 20s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr Balls Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 (edited) 19 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: What is Mark Ashton going to tell him this time? “Don’t worry Sammie, Kieran is a much better manager than Lee Johnson!” Edited July 22 by Dr Balls 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Back near home for him too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 Asking Price is reportedly £20m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 On 24/07/2024 at 13:03, Mr Popodopolous said: Asking Price is reportedly £20m. Prem money. Sickening really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 6 hours ago, Major Isewater said: Prem money. Sickening really. So many different reports around but agreed. Some say Ipswich bid £6m, perhaps they'll meet somewhere in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 (edited) €10m is now mentioned. Galatasaray unsure whether to meet...time will tell. That's about £8.58m. Edited August 6 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HengroveReds Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 Szmiodics not starting after last season too.. I know he’s linked with move away but he’s there main man im interested to see how Kane Wilson will handle the champ too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back of the Dolman Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 Scores again tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temp Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 On 09/08/2024 at 21:33, Back of the Dolman said: Scores again tonight As does the other City reject AW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 Kane Wilson also scored for Derby, same game. I digress, Szmodics Nixon says Blackburn want £9m, Ipswich offering £8.5m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Scored again last night albeit only in the Cup away to Stockport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Hoping there was a sell on clause inserted! Are we looking for a number 10 by any chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 2 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: Hoping there was a sell on clause inserted! Are we looking for a number 10 by any chance? We sold him to Peterborough and had some dosh when they sold him to Blackburn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Oh dear. One that slipped through the NP net. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 So why was Szmodics such a failure with us? He had so few match chances that, presumably, he wasn’t impressing anyone in training. I struggle to think of another player in my lifetime who was such a flop for us but went on to be so successful elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted August 16 Admin Share Posted August 16 11 minutes ago, East End Old Boy said: We sold him to Peterborough and had some dosh when they sold him to Blackburn. If they inserted their own sell on clause when selling to Blackburn, we will get a percentage of their percentage. Unlikely to be huge, like £200-300k but better than nowt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Wasn’t he here around the time of Palmer? Maybe we were obliged to play him a certain number of times from Chelsea if it was the loan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted August 16 Admin Share Posted August 16 Just now, Nugget said: Wasn’t he here around the time of Palmer? Maybe we were obliged to play him a certain number of times from Chelsea if it was the loan I think he was signed the Summer we spunked £4m on making Kasey a permanent move. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickytimes Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 13 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: Oh dear. One that slipped through the NP net. Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC31 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Hopefully we have a 20 percent sell on clause that would be a 2.2m cash windfall for us on top of the 4.5m were getting for Conway. Apologies I forget he went to Peterborough first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 14 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: So why was Szmodics such a failure with us? He had so few match chances that, presumably, he wasn’t impressing anyone in training. I struggle to think of another player in my lifetime who was such a flop for us but went on to be so successful elsewhere. As I have said before, it's taken him 5 seasons to become an overnight success, people on here want to ditch players after a couple of games. Do you really think the crowd would have been happy to wait this long to see him come good? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 25 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: Oh dear. One that slipped through the NP net. You’ve had a shocker there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashton Fete Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 (edited) 26 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: So why was Szmodics such a failure with us? He had so few match chances that, presumably, he wasn’t impressing anyone in training. I struggle to think of another player in my lifetime who was such a flop for us but went on to be so successful elsewhere. I think I read or listened to an interview with him where he said he found the step up too big for him at the time https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/sammie-szmodics-championship-bristol-city-9232265.amp Edited August 16 by Ashton Fete 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hankey Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 31 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: Oh dear. One that slipped through the NP net. By NP are you referring to Nigel Pearson? If so, can't tell if this is a "whoosh", but it was actually Lee Johnson who didn't fancy him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 13 minutes ago, BCFC31 said: Hopefully we have a 20 percent sell on clause that would be a 2.2m cash windfall for us on top of the 4.5m were getting for Conway. Apologies I forget he went to Peterborough first I posted a hypothetical breakdown of the sell-on that City would get on the “other signings” thread. Prepare your select to be disappointed! (I think you forgot Peterborough) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 The fee reported for Szmodics merely goes to prove that Ipswich paid too much for Delap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Tootle Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 I don't think anyone could've predicted the career he has had since leaving us. Yes he didn't get enough opportunities for us due to Palmer also being signed at the same time (unnecessarily in my view), but when he did play he looked miles off the standard required. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 27 minutes ago, Ian M said: I think he was signed the Summer we spunked £4m on making Kasey a permanent move. Yep, been covered a million times before. Already had Paterson, bought Szmodics, then Palmer, didn’t need them all, so Paterson was shipped off on loan to Detby. Szmodics got minimal opportunity then was sold to (League One) Peterborough. Palmer did nothing & Paterson came back from his loan & got back in the team. Muddled thinking par excellence. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarksRobin Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 £11m seems a bit of a bargain for him, with his current scoring record Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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