A word or two from Oxford

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

However, if he winds up staying then I'll be absolutely furious that we have a manager so lacking in ambition he wouldn't take a step up when offered on a plate."

 

"You should’ve called him a Judas and a selfish pr*ck and a liar and a snake and a sneaky **** and questioned his integrity as a man as well as a professional.
You would have come across as much more reasonable”.

 

"Cost us a few quid but could we just not be really petty and sack Manning before he goes? Just a tiny, small, vindictive move that I would get fully behind.”

 

"I hope you get relegated, Bristol Rovers finish above you and you all come down with the shits.”

 

"Bristol City are a very ordinary club that will forever be stuck in the Championship at best. No matter how much money they spend or who manages the club, they just don't seem to do anything in that league of note. Big crowds, nice ground but absolutely nothing else and I can't see how even Manning could turn it around if he went. One wrong move could easily sour is career if it doesn't work out and he wont want two sackings on his record before he's 40.

Here is City's finishing positions since returning to the second tier: 18th, 17th, 11th, 8th, 12th, 19th, 17th, 14th. They are currently 11th and whilst nicely poised, there's probably still a good 10 teams in that league guaranteed to finish above them no matter who is in the crows nest.”

 

"Hurry up and make the announcement so I can start throwing my poo at the walls and verbally abuse my fellow posters.”

 

"They have spent little time in the top flight. Barely more than us. It might be tempting for obvious reasons for Manning to try his hand in the Championship. However, they are not such a big club that it is a given he will go there over trying to get us up. If it was a Leeds or Ipswich etc, it would be different.”

 

"They're a bigger club than Bournemouth, Brentford or Luton......arguably Fulham too......an ambitious manager might well think they can achieve the same as that lot with Bristol City, if they get it right.”

 

"Bit disappointed the club aren't giving us live coverage on what's going on."

"In the absence of any concrete information, are there any brave forumites who fancy trawling for updates from Twitter? Feels like it's time for another update from an unverified account, who has no track record of any sort and fewer than 50 followers."

[cidercity1987]

Oxford strike me as the League One version of us.

Alright crowds for the level, decent city, never make the step up, more likely to go down as they almost did six months ago

[And Its Smith]

Oxford are sad and bitter towards us and we are sad and bitter towards Bournemouth.  Not sure who they are sad and bitter towards but it will be someone. The football ladder 

[Vespa Red]

22 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Oxford are sad and bitter towards us and we are sad and bitter towards Bournemouth.  Not sure who they are sad and bitter towards but it will be someone. The football ladder 

Can't they just cut out the middle man and be angry with Bournemouth (by association)?

[pongo88]

This bit from Oxford could have been written by many on OTIB:
 

“Bristol City are a very ordinary club that will forever be stuck in the Championship at best. No matter how much money they spend or who manages the club, they just don't seem to do anything in that league of note. Big crowds, nice ground but absolutely nothing else and I can't see how even Manning could turn it around if he went. One wrong move could easily sour is career if it doesn't work out and he wont want two sackings on his record before he's 40.

Here is City's finishing positions since returning to the second tier: 18th, 17th, 11th, 8th, 12th, 19th, 17th, 14th. They are currently 11th and whilst nicely poised, there's probably still a good 10teams in that league guaranteed to finish above them no matter who is in the crows nest.”

[City Rocker]

31 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Oxford are sad and bitter towards us and we are sad and bitter towards Bournemouth.  Not sure who they are sad and bitter towards but it will be someone. The football ladder 

 

8 minutes ago, Vespa Red said:

Can't they just cut out the middle man and be angry with Bournemouth (by association)?

Are we Ronnie Barker?

[Bedred31]

Used to really enjoy going to Oxford. ( Except, I think, one game that was abandoned at half time for fog?) Old ground was authentic and atmospheric, although the club was too tight to print tickets so you had to roll up an hour+ in advance to be sure to get in. Now I think it’s another New Den in fields and next to a dual carriageway.

[Red Army 75]

19 minutes ago, Bedred31 said:

Used to really enjoy going to Oxford. ( Except, I think, one game that was abandoned at half time for fog?) Old ground was authentic and atmospheric, although the club was too tight to print tickets so you had to roll up an hour+ in advance to be sure to get in. Now I think it’s another New Den in fields and next to a dual carriageway.

Was at the 1-1 draw in the fog. It didn’t get abandoned. Should have, couldn’t see bugger all. Fans behind the goal asking Andy Leaning what was going on 

Edited November 6, 2023 by Red Army 75

[Bris Red]

55 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Oxford are sad and bitter towards us and we are sad and bitter towards Bournemouth.  Not sure who they are sad and bitter towards but it will be someone. The football ladder 

Indeed. Such is life. We are a fair few rungs up the proverbial football ladder than Oxford who as i said on a previous post haven’t played football at this level in almost 26 years..

They can say all they want about us being mediocre in the Championship  (which granted we have) but where the **** have they been the last 15-20 years? Bobbing around the fourth tier/ third tier and having a nice little stint in non-league (similar to our blue neighbours) all whilst getting at best no more than 8 k home gates..

Edited November 6, 2023 by Bris Red

[BCFCGav]

It is a good read, that forum of theirs. Dickie (via QPR), Atkinson, Sykes, Manning… it’s lovely to be the poachers, not the poached

 

[2015]

Shame. The enemy of my enemy is my friend and all that looks like it's coming to an end because I dislike Swindon as much as Oxford fans.

[eardun]

5 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

Was at the 1-1 draw in the fog. It didn’t get abandoned. Should have thought, couldn’t see bugger all. Fans behind the goal asking Andy Leaning what was going on 

I was there too - it was ridiculous. Brief video here:

https://youtu.be/yhg0ddKh5NQ?feature=shared

 

[Red Army 75]

1 minute ago, eardun said:

I was there too - it was ridiculous. Brief video here:

https://youtu.be/yhg0ddKh5NQ?feature=shared

 

Wow what a find. Cheers 

[Bat Fastard]

I hope that someone from our forum goes onto their forum and suggests that City will support their new manager in buying their best players and just leave them with the dregs. We already seem to have done this in the past and the manager would know who to buy.  They might find some repose by contemplating this....

[archie andrews]

23 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

Was at the 1-1 draw in the fog. It didn’t get abandoned. Should have, couldn’t see bugger all. Fans behind the goal asking Andy Leaning what was going on 

 i was there....used to be a shark on a roof on the way to the ground......

[Red_Alligator]

27 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

Was at the 1-1 draw in the fog. It didn’t get abandoned. Should have, couldn’t see bugger all. Fans behind the goal asking Andy Leaning what was going on 

Yes, I was there too. Didn't know we'd scored until celebrating players appeared through the fog?

[BrizzleRed]

50 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

This bit from Oxford could have been written by many on OTIB:
 

“Bristol City are a very ordinary club that will forever be stuck in the Championship at best. No matter how much money they spend or who manages the club, they just don't seem to do anything in that league of note. Big crowds, nice ground but absolutely nothing else and I can't see how even Manning could turn it around if he went. One wrong move could easily sour is career if it doesn't work out and he wont want two sackings on his record before he's 40.

Here is City's finishing positions since returning to the second tier: 18th, 17th, 11th, 8th, 12th, 19th, 17th, 14th. They are currently 11th and whilst nicely poised, there's probably still a good 10teams in that league guaranteed to finish above them no matter who is in the crows nest.”

Think they’ve got us pretty well sussed, looking at that.

About time this club pulls its collective finger out and stops being a beige, dull, underperforming club with big potential, which is never realised.

We’ve been waiting long enough!!!

[italian dave]

49 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

Was at the 1-1 draw in the fog. It didn’t get abandoned. Should have, couldn’t see bugger all. Fans behind the goal asking Andy Leaning what was going on 

I was there. Fog was so thick that when I told @Bedred31 at half time that it was abandoned he couldn’t see any better so he went home. 

[sh1t_ref_again]

1 hour ago, eardun said:

I was there too - it was ridiculous. Brief video here:

https://youtu.be/yhg0ddKh5NQ?feature=shared

 

I was there, interesting seeing the goal as the 1st we knew we had scored was when the players came back over the half way line celebrating 

[maxjak]

2 hours ago, archie andrews said:

 i was there....used to be a shark on a roof on the way to the ground......

Yep i remember seeing it and taking a photo....on the way to the ground when we won there 4-2 in 1988....think it was a league cup game?

[TV Tom]

9 hours ago, BCFCGav said:

It is a good read, that forum of theirs. Dickie (via QPR), Atkinson, Sykes, Manning… it’s lovely to be the poachers, not the poached

 

Throw in  O'Dowda as well

[Mad Cyril]

9 hours ago, Bat Fastard said:

I hope that someone from our forum goes onto their forum and suggests that City will support their new manager in buying their best players and just leave them with the dregs. We already seem to have done this in the past and the manager would know who to buy.  They might find some repose by contemplating this....

They have already got their revenge..... Sent us bloody Mark Ashton...

[Basshead64]

Was sat in stand on the side behind Timmy mallett

[TDarwall]

The 4-2 win there in the Milk/Littlewoods/something else? Cup was a great night! Absolute worldie from Ralphie Milne.

[Major Isewater]

11 hours ago, City Rocker said:

 

Are we Ronnie Barker?

I’m Ronnie Barker and so’s my wife. 

[Red-Robbo]

The thing I like about Oxford fans is - they really hate Swindon. 

[2015]

6 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

The thing I like about Oxford fans is - they really hate Swindon. 

They hate Swindon and don't like the Gas much. I have always had a soft spot for them just because of that.

[TV Tom]

21 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

The thing I like about Oxford fans is - they really hate Swindon. 

They have this two-way hatred with the gas as well (everyone hates the gas) they also hate Karl Robison and are desperate he ends up with Rovers

[Andy082005]

13 hours ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

However, if he winds up staying then I'll be absolutely furious that we have a manager so lacking in ambition he wouldn't take a step up when offered on a plate."

 

"You should’ve called him a Judas and a selfish pr*ck and a liar and a snake and a sneaky **** and questioned his integrity as a man as well as a professional.
You would have come across as much more reasonable”.

 

"Cost us a few quid but could we just not be really petty and sack Manning before he goes? Just a tiny, small, vindictive move that I would get fully behind.”

 

"I hope you get relegated, Bristol Rovers finish above you and you all come down with the shits.”

 

"Bristol City are a very ordinary club that will forever be stuck in the Championship at best. No matter how much money they spend or who manages the club, they just don't seem to do anything in that league of note. Big crowds, nice ground but absolutely nothing else and I can't see how even Manning could turn it around if he went. One wrong move could easily sour is career if it doesn't work out and he wont want two sackings on his record before he's 40.

Here is City's finishing positions since returning to the second tier: 18th, 17th, 11th, 8th, 12th, 19th, 17th, 14th. They are currently 11th and whilst nicely poised, there's probably still a good 10 teams in that league guaranteed to finish above them no matter who is in the crows nest.”

 

"Hurry up and make the announcement so I can start throwing my poo at the walls and verbally abuse my fellow posters.”

 

"They have spent little time in the top flight. Barely more than us. It might be tempting for obvious reasons for Manning to try his hand in the Championship. However, they are not such a big club that it is a given he will go there over trying to get us up. If it was a Leeds or Ipswich etc, it would be different.”

 

"They're a bigger club than Bournemouth, Brentford or Luton......arguably Fulham too......an ambitious manager might well think they can achieve the same as that lot with Bristol City, if they get it right.”

 

"Bit disappointed the club aren't giving us live coverage on what's going on."

"In the absence of any concrete information, are there any brave forumites who fancy trawling for updates from Twitter? Feels like it's time for another update from an unverified account, who has no track record of any sort and fewer than 50 followers."

Glad to see they are all taking it so well 

[Super]

12 hours ago, Bris Red said:

Indeed. Such is life. We are a fair few rungs up the proverbial football ladder than Oxford who as i said on a previous post haven’t played football at this level in almost 26 years..

They can say all they want about us being mediocre in the Championship  (which granted we have) but where the **** have they been the last 15-20 years? Bobbing around the fourth tier/ third tier and having a nice little stint in non-league (similar to our blue neighbours) all whilst getting at best no more than 8 k home gates..

And yet they have won a major trophy.

[downendcity]

When the OP said one or two words from Oxford, did anyone else immediately think that one would begin with f and the other off?

[Bris Red]

32 minutes ago, Super said:

And yet they have won a major trophy.

That was almost as long ago as the time we were in the topflight aswell 

[AppyDAZE]

The Oxford fans are starting to make me hope it's gonna be Manning.

Edited November 7, 2023 by AppyDAZE

[Super]

1 minute ago, Bris Red said:

That was almost as long ago as the time we were in the topflight aswell 

Yes but they won something a trophy unlike us.

[Bris Red]

4 minutes ago, Super said:

Yes but they won something a trophy unlike us.

And winning something in 1985 is in the forefront of Mannings mind no doubt.. Not sure where we are going with this. We are a bigger football club than them at this present time in every conceivable way. Yes they won a trophy in 1985, we also played in the toplight around that same time 

[slartibartfast]

12 hours ago, Bedred31 said:

Used to really enjoy going to Oxford. ( Except, I think, one game that was abandoned at half time for fog?) Old ground was authentic and atmospheric, although the club was too tight to print tickets so you had to roll up an hour+ in advance to be sure to get in. Now I think it’s another New Den in fields and next to a dual carriageway.

Went there many times back in the day, the last time with my Mrs for her to get a medical report for a compo claim............it's now a private clinic with a floor plaque in the waiting room demarking the center spot .

[Super]

2 minutes ago, Bris Red said:

And winning something in 1985 is in the forefront of Mannings mind no doubt.. Not sure where we are going with this. We are a bigger football club than them at this present time in every conceivable way. Yes they won a trophy in 1985, we also played in the toplight around that same time 

Just making the point that they have achieved more than us with obvious limited resources. It's obvious we're one of the biggest under achievers in English Football.

[Gimme Shelton]

2 minutes ago, Super said:

Yes but they won something a trophy unlike us.

Yes they did but compare that with our history.  While we were founder members of Div2,runner up in Div1,FA cup finalists,for many years us and Arsenal only league teams south of Birmingham. Not to mention Welsh cup winners,Anglo Scottish cup winners,most successful EFL trophy team. Ok the last few aren't major trophies but if the gas can still go on about the Watney Cup..... Meanwhile Oxford Utd were Headington Utd until 1960 and weren't a league team until '62.

[supercidered]

I think a lot of the noise and comments from Oxford fans isn't because they love Manning. 

I think they are more worried about what he gets replaced with. As we have just seen from the list that bookies had for the City job, it wasn't exactly mouth watering was it. This will made worse if Manning brings any of his coaching team with him.

[redkev]

1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said:

The thing I like about Oxford fans is - they really hate Swindon. 

And rovers ,         And now us by the sounds of things

[redkev]

41 minutes ago, supercidered said:

I think a lot of the noise and comments from Oxford fans isn't because they love Manning. 

I think they are more worried about what he gets replaced with. As we have just seen from the list that bookies had for the City job, it wasn't exactly mouth watering was it. This will made worse if Manning brings any of his coaching team with him.

Let’s hope he brings one of those creative midfielder coaches that all teams seem to have except us

[supercidered]

2 minutes ago, redkev said:

Let’s hope he brings one of those creative midfielder coaches that all teams seem to have except us

Or even a creative midfielder to coach.

[42nite]

The last time I went to Oxford.. around 69/70 ish? we got our asses kicked off their home end 5 minutes before ko and scattered to all parts of the ground.

Lost 2-0 as well I think.

 

Not a good day.

 

[Swede]

I'm afraid its all part of the football food chain. We're higher up than them and although galling for them at the moment, its equally galling for us to see so much Bristol City talent ending up at Bournemouth.

If they're worried about their next manager they have every right to be especially with a certain barton63754 looking. 

[Bazooka Joe]

17 hours ago, Red Army 75 said:

Was at the 1-1 draw in the fog. It didn’t get abandoned. Should have, couldn’t see bugger all. Fans behind the goal asking Andy Leaning what was going on 

Bl**dy cold too.

I think the weather was okay when we set off.

 

[Bazooka Joe]

1 hour ago, 42nite said:

The last time I went to Oxford.. around 69/70 ish? we got our asses kicked off their home end 5 minutes before ko and scattered to all parts of the ground.

Lost 2-0 as well I think.

 

Not a good day.

 

Yeh. My mate came back with a shiner and they stole his money.

Some of our lot were too cocky that day and got a nasty surprise.

[2015]

It is safe to say they are not a happy bunch over in Oxfordshire..

Manager/Coach - Liam Manning Departs | Page 133 | Yellows Forum

[italian dave]

31 minutes ago, 2015 said:

It is safe to say they are not a happy bunch over in Oxfordshire..

Manager/Coach - Liam Manning Departs | Page 133 | Yellows Forum

Ha ha! The one that made me laugh was the one “hoping he (Manning) has done his homework on Lansdown and his record with managers”.

The writer clearly hasn’t!

Whatever else you can say about Lansdown (and plenty have! ) he’s a track record of being pretty patient with managers as evidenced by how often we have the longest/second longest etc serving manager. 

[Superjack]

19 hours ago, Red Army 75 said:

Was at the 1-1 draw in the fog. It didn’t get abandoned. Should have, couldn’t see bugger all. Fans behind the goal asking Andy Leaning what was going on 

Just before the ball came out of the wall of fog followed by Paul ****ing Simpson!

[bcfc01]

1 hour ago, 2015 said:

It is safe to say they are not a happy bunch over in Oxfordshire..

Manager/Coach - Liam Manning Departs | Page 133 | Yellows Forum

There's been another salty 8 pages since then.

Reminds me of the Pikeys when their 10m player joined us for tuppence.

A lot of them don't understand how a buy out clause works either, just like the Pikeys.

[Cityboy1954]

21 hours ago, Bat Fastard said:

I hope that someone from our forum goes onto their forum and suggests that City will support their new manager in buying their best players and just leave them with the dregs. We already seem to have done this in the past and the manager would know who to buy.  They might find some repose by contemplating this....

Just for fun can we take Brannagan

[redkev]

7 hours ago, 42nite said:

The last time I went to Oxford.. around 69/70 ish? we got our asses kicked off their home end 5 minutes before ko and scattered to all parts of the ground.

Lost 2-0 as well I think.

 

Not a good day.

 

Yes been there got the t shirt , mine was early 90s I think , mini bus load of us thought we would sneak in after downing a fair few flagons of Taunton dry on the way up , put it this way don’t think we got any where near the middle of the terrace sussed out and given an almighty hiding , still feel the punches now , 

[REDOXO]

4 hours ago, italian dave said:

Ha ha! The one that made me laugh was the one “hoping he (Manning) has done his homework on Lansdown and his record with managers”.

The writer clearly hasn’t!

Whatever else you can say about Lansdown (and plenty have! ) he’s a track record of being pretty patient with managers as evidenced by how often we have the longest/second longest etc serving manager. 

I think that is by and large fair. Holden was really the only one binned after a shortish period. 
 

However with this guy all bets are off on that score. 
 

JL appears to be of the opinion we should be pushing top six. (Which I think we would have been with Pearson come the run in) this season. By that rationale the bloke could be judged as a success or failure sooner rather than later by many!

[milo1111]

5 hours ago, italian dave said:

Ha ha! The one that made me laugh was the one “hoping he (Manning) has done his homework on Lansdown and his record with managers”.

The writer clearly hasn’t!

Whatever else you can say about Lansdown (and plenty have! ) he’s a track record of being pretty patient with managers as evidenced by how often we have the longest/second longest etc serving manager. 

He’s particularly patient with head coaches more so than managers. His wallet is more open for HCs as well.

[italian dave]

12 hours ago, REDOXO said:

I think that is by and large fair. Holden was really the only one binned after a shortish period. 
 

However with this guy all bets are off on that score. 
 

JL appears to be of the opinion we should be pushing top six. (Which I think we would have been with Pearson come the run in) this season. By that rationale the bloke could be judged as a success or failure sooner rather than later by many!

 

12 hours ago, milo1111 said:

He’s particularly patient with head coaches more so than managers. His wallet is more open for HCs as well.

When we talk about ‘the Lansdowns’, or a generic ‘Lansdown’, I think it’s generally been with the understanding that it’s Steve who’s the power behind the throne. I’m assuming that’s who you were thinking of as ‘he’ milo? But as your post reflects Redoxo it’s definitely Jon who’s fronted this one up.

My recollection is that it’s always been Steve who’s fronted up big decisions and events in the past. I can’t believe that he’s genuinely handed all the power and decision making to Jon. But maybe the fact that he wasn’t here to face the cameras is a reflection of his waning interest? Or it could have just been storm Ciaran?

I think Jon’s made some daft comments in that statement. Personally I’m not sure we are top 6 anyway, but even if we were, a time of transition changes that.  I put those daft comments down to either the general shocking state of the comms at Ashton Gate at the moment, or the fact that the real reasons (right or wrong) were things they couldn’t talk about publicly (Pearson’s health, broken relationships) so they just had to bullshit about something else. Or both.

It’s conceivable that Jon is now the real power broker and that he doesn’t share his father’s patience, means what he said about expecting top 6, and we’re about to become the new Watford! More likely, Steve still makes the calls and the decisions and he’ll have more realistic expectations, as he always has had.

Or they’ll find a buyer and then who knows?!!!

[Spike]

On 07/11/2023 at 10:06, Super said:

Yes but they won something a trophy unlike us.

I mean we won a double in 14/15 season, I wouldn't describe it as a major trophy but you could call that far more recent than Oxford's Cup win that happened when I was 5 years old and I'm no spring chicken.

I would say though that as far as how big clubs are, if winning a cup long ago counts then Grimsby must be bigger than us as they won a lot of trophies and the top flight twice. Therefore that League Two side, who haven't been in the second their since 03/04, must be bigger than us right? I would concede "more historic", but not a chance they are a bigger club than us in modern football.

[bcfcredandwhite]

23 hours ago, redkev said:

And rovers ,         And now us by the sounds of things

They’ve always hated us - Swindon are their main rivals though, partly due to location but mainly due to the ‘car wars’ British Leyland industrial strikes in the 1970s (similar to the ‘dock wars’ between Portsmouth and Southampton).

Some of you may remember the Hartcliffe Riots back in the early 90s, where cars, shops and houses were set on fire - the majority of arrests were people who bussed in from Oxford to have a pop. I remember being astounded at the time.

When people think of Oxford, we tend to think of highly educated dons, swishing down gothic corridors in their gowns, talking like they did on Pathe newsreels - or Inspector Morse esq pretty pubs and villages - but in fact Oxford plays host to one of THE most violent and crime ridden estates in the UK…

https://crimerate.co.uk/oxfordshire/blackbird-leys
They have some very unpleasant people amongst their fan base  

 

[Davefevs]

48 minutes ago, italian dave said:

 

When we talk about ‘the Lansdowns’, or a generic ‘Lansdown’, I think it’s generally been with the understanding that it’s Steve who’s the power behind the throne. I’m assuming that’s who you were thinking of as ‘he’ milo? But as your post reflects Redoxo it’s definitely Jon who’s fronted this one up.

My recollection is that it’s always been Steve who’s fronted up big decisions and events in the past. I can’t believe that he’s genuinely handed all the power and decision making to Jon. But maybe the fact that he wasn’t here to face the cameras is a reflection of his waning interest? Or it could have just been storm Ciaran?

I think Jon’s made some daft comments in that statement. Personally I’m not sure we are top 6 anyway, but even if we were, a time of transition changes that.  I put those daft comments down to either the general shocking state of the comms at Ashton Gate at the moment, or the fact that the real reasons (right or wrong) were things they couldn’t talk about publicly (Pearson’s health, broken relationships) so they just had to bullshit about something else. Or both.

It’s conceivable that Jon is now the real power broker and that he doesn’t share his father’s patience, means what he said about expecting top 6, and we’re about to become the new Watford! More likely, Steve still makes the calls and the decisions and he’ll have more realistic expectations, as he always has had.

Or they’ll find a buyer and then who knows?!!!

We are gonna find out.  Steve seems to have zoned-out.

[BarneyCity]

On 06/11/2023 at 21:26, eardun said:

I was there too - it was ridiculous. Brief video here:

https://youtu.be/yhg0ddKh5NQ?feature=shared

 

It was a bright sunny afternoon as I remember, and at have time the fog just rolled over the top of the stand - funny how we all recall that day

[lenred]

12 minutes ago, bcfcredandwhite said:

They’ve always hated us - Swindon are their main rivals though, partly due to location but mainly due to the ‘car wars’ British Leyland industrial strikes in the 1970s (similar to the ‘dock wars’ between Portsmouth and Southampton).

Some of you may remember the Hartcliffe Riots back in the early 90s, where cars, shops and houses were set on fire - the majority of arrests were people who bussed in from Oxford to have a pop. I remember being astounded at the time.

When people think of Oxford, we tend to think of highly educated dons, swishing down gothic corridors in their gowns, talking like they did on Pathe newsreels - or Inspector Morse esq pretty pubs and villages - but in fact Oxford plays host to one of THE most violent and crime ridden estates in the UK…

https://crimerate.co.uk/oxfordshire/blackbird-leys
They have some very unpleasant people amongst their fan base  

 

I’m always amazed that more people have literally no idea about this side of Oxford (not on here necessarily, just in general) 

[BrizzleRed]

1 hour ago, italian dave said:

 

When we talk about ‘the Lansdowns’, or a generic ‘Lansdown’, I think it’s generally been with the understanding that it’s Steve who’s the power behind the throne. I’m assuming that’s who you were thinking of as ‘he’ milo? But as your post reflects Redoxo it’s definitely Jon who’s fronted this one up.

My recollection is that it’s always been Steve who’s fronted up big decisions and events in the past. I can’t believe that he’s genuinely handed all the power and decision making to Jon. But maybe the fact that he wasn’t here to face the cameras is a reflection of his waning interest? Or it could have just been storm Ciaran?

I think Jon’s made some daft comments in that statement. Personally I’m not sure we are top 6 anyway, but even if we were, a time of transition changes that.  I put those daft comments down to either the general shocking state of the comms at Ashton Gate at the moment, or the fact that the real reasons (right or wrong) were things they couldn’t talk about publicly (Pearson’s health, broken relationships) so they just had to bullshit about something else. Or both.

It’s conceivable that Jon is now the real power broker and that he doesn’t share his father’s patience, means what he said about expecting top 6, and we’re about to become the new Watford! More likely, Steve still makes the calls and the decisions and he’ll have more realistic expectations, as he always has had.

Or they’ll find a buyer and then who knows?!!!

It really feels like SL is now tired of the Bristol City project and is desperate to transfer as much as possible over to his son.  I can’t imagine any major decisions are made without JL consulting with SL though, as it’s obviously SL’s investment at stake.

I’ll venture that given SL’s apparent lack of interest and the right pig’s ear his son has made of the NP debacle, he may decide that enough is enough and he lowers his asking price to get the club sold now.

It’s been speculated that SL’s aim is to hit the Prem, so the maximum sale price can be achieved.  I’d say that, in spite of what Jon said, SL surely couldn’t be daft enough to believe this could be achieved without very serious investment in this squad?

Added to that, during the last couple of weeks, Jon has done everything possible to prove he’d struggle to run a bath, let alone be capable of leading this football club to the Premiership.

Given that SL is such an experienced and hardened financier, he may just resign himself to City not returning as much of his investment as he’d originally hoped for.  He may be thinking that at his age, it just isn’t worth the hassle any more and get out sooner, rather than wait and hope for the best price.

[Sheltons Army]

I thought amongst many things that what has become blatantly obvious in recent months or I’d say recent years is that SL has ‘had enough’ / lost interest or will and that unable to find a buyer either Jon has said ‘Let me sort it , I’ll do it’ or , I’d suggest more likely has been left carrying the main decision making and day to day running with dad more interested in other projects.

That leaves Jon heavily reliant on any expertise around him which I’d suggest he would and would know he desperately needs , and from a football perspective , which is what we all have as our %99 interest , suddenly one man has grown very powerful..... and I don’t mean Liam Manning

[W-S-M Seagull]

2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

We are gonna find out.  Steve seems to have zoned-out.

It seems like they take it in turns making appointments these days  

LJ - SL

DH - JL

NP - SL

LM - JL

Edited November 8, 2023 by W-S-M Seagull

[Davefevs]

15 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

It seems like they take it in turns making appointments these days  

LJ - SL

DH - JL

NP - SL

LM - JL

Dunno about that, but anyone notice JL’s answer to involvement on this appointment and perhaps trying to distance himself from Holden’s?  He basically said this is the most he’s been involved.

 

[RobinTuga]

24 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Dunno about that, but anyone notice JL’s answer to involvement on this appointment and perhaps trying to distance himself from Holden’s?  He basically said this is the most he’s been involved.

And that in itself I also found out a little eyebrow raising, I always felt (and possibly I'm misreading the situation, I don't have a ton to base this on) one of the reasons SL was/is looking to sell was that Junior wasn't too keen in taking over the club long term and is more interested in other projects. Feel like I remember seeing some discourse about this at the time Fever Pitch was becoming a thing.

[Davefevs]

11 minutes ago, RobinTuga said:

And that in itself I also found out a little eyebrow raising, I always felt (and possibly I'm misreading the situation, I don't have a ton to base this on) one of the reasons SL was/is looking to sell was that Junior wasn't too keen in taking over the club long term and is more interested in other projects. Feel like I remember seeing some discourse about this at the time Fever Pitch was becoming a thing.

Yes, indeed.  Wonder if he’s changed tack and realised he wants to do something off his own back.  That’s not meant to be rude, perhaps it’s dawned on him that there is more to life.

[Open End Numb Legs]

3 hours ago, bcfcredandwhite said:

....... mainly due to the ‘car wars’ British Leyland industrial strikes in the 1970s.......

 

My 1st car, unfortunately, was a 1974 Morris Marina.

No one who was connected to the terrible BL cars of that era deserves my sympathy.

[CliftonCliff]

12 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Yes, indeed.  Wonder if he’s changed tack and realised he wants to do something off his own back.  That’s not meant to be rude, perhaps it’s dawned on him that there is more to life.

Yes, and something he's cut out for and is good atm as well - and that isn't meant to be a jibe, either. He might actually be a lot happier - and I dare say so would many of us. 

[Nogbad the Bad]

4 minutes ago, RobinTuga said:

And that in itself I also found out a little eyebrow raising, I always felt (and possibly I'm misreading the situation, I don't have a ton to base this on) one of the reasons SL was/is looking to sell was that Junior wasn't too keen in taking over the club long term and is more interested in other projects. Feel like I remember seeing some discourse about this at the time Fever Pitch was becoming a thing.

I certainly remember hearing this too, that basically JL had decided he wasn't interested in taking over long term ownership of BCFC, as had presumably always been the plan.

But didn't JL counter a question last week asking if SL had lost his passion for the club - or similar - with 'no, but even if he had, I haven't.'

So perhaps things have changed again?

[bcfcredandwhite]

43 minutes ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

My 1st car, unfortunately, was a 1974 Morris Marina.

No one who was connected to the terrible BL cars of that era deserves my sympathy.

I had a Triumph TR7 convertible. Loved it - but it was a rustbucket. It was as much a hobby for me back then at 21 as it was a form of transportation.