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38 minutes ago, Keepers Ball said:

I assumed it was on SKY but no. We're playing on Sunday because of the Squatter Egg chasers. 

And because my Son plays on a Sunday, we will miss the match.

And some wonder why I detest sharing the use of the stadium with that lot?

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Not sure that's the reason but stand to be corrected. The clubs agreed to the change back in June (were the egg chasers fixtures even out then).

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42 minutes ago, Keepers Ball said:

I assumed it was on SKY but no. We're playing on Sunday because of the Squatter Egg chasers. 

And because my Son plays on a Sunday, we will miss the match.

And some wonder why I detest sharing the use of the stadium with that lot?

Cough back to the Memorial ffs

I am sure that you actually realise they are not squatters and like us both share Ashton Gate

If it was on Sky I'm guessing you would have still missed it as you would be at your sons football match?

I stand to be corrected but isn't this the first time we have actually moved a game for the rugby?

I'm intrigued why you detest us sharing AG8

2 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

Not sure that's the reason but stand to be corrected. The clubs agreed to the change back in June (were the egg chasers fixtures even out then).

You are not far wrong in what you say, but was in July Bristol Bears in talks with Welsh Rugby Union to host Gloucester clash at the Principality Stadium (dailymail.co.uk)

The game against Gloucester was originally planned to be played at the Principality Stadium in Cardiff, but after discussions got moved back to AG8

The idea was not to clash with our game to enable as many to attend the game in Cardiff

Discussed already in detail here 

 

 

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56 minutes ago, Keepers Ball said:

I assumed it was on SKY but no. We're playing on Sunday because of the Squatter Egg chasers. 

And because my Son plays on a Sunday, we will miss the match.

And some wonder why I detest sharing the use of the stadium with that lot?

Cough back to the Memorial ffs

How many other games have been moved for the rugby? 

We are not playing on Sunday because of Bristol Vs Gloucester at Ashton Gate tomorrow. We are playing on Sunday because the original plan was for tomorrow's rugby game to be played at the principality stadium.

You may not like this, but there are quite a few City fans who also support the rugby! So they didn't want a rugby game and a football game to clash so that more people were available to make the journey over to Wales (I would have done) 

They committed to making this change back in the summer so people wouldnt be inconvenienced.

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In the past, there has always been a mixed reaction to fixture changes (just wait for if we ever get promoted...) - for every person who has a regular commitment on a Sunday, there is usually somebody who has a commitment on a Saturday who can then make the match

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2 minutes ago, David Brent said:

🙋‍♂️I also detest sharing Ashton Gate with the rugby team

My reason is because it’s our home and has been for a long time. Also, the rugby pitch markings look shit. 

It's their home as well. The we've been here longer argument is irrelevant.

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1 hour ago, phantom said:

I am sure that you actually realise they are not squatters and like us both share Ashton Gate

If it was on Sky I'm guessing you would have still missed it as you would be at your sons football match?

I stand to be corrected but isn't this the first time we have actually moved a game for the rugby?

I'm intrigued why you detest us sharing AG8

You are not far wrong in what you say, but was in July Bristol Bears in talks with Welsh Rugby Union to host Gloucester clash at the Principality Stadium (dailymail.co.uk)

The game against Gloucester was originally planned to be played at the Principality Stadium in Cardiff, but after discussions got moved back to AG8

The idea was not to clash with our game to enable as many to attend the game in Cardiff

Discussed already in detail here 

 

 

The move to Sunday was announced on the OS, on June 30th. Not that it matters in the scheme of things.

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1 hour ago, italian dave said:

I just hate matches on Sundays. And I hate lunchtime kick offs even more!

On The plus side, I guess it’s given us an extra day after the Southampton game…and no midweek game next week. 

Best hope we don’t get to the prem then ,  there will be a lot of matches you hate , just saying like 

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2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Daughter’s birthday, so I’ll miss it too.

Doesn’t look like it will be red button as previously as Sat 3pm, and nothing coming out of club saying it will be allowed.

You'd hope their would be, the hierarchy have imposed this Rugby situation on us. If not I'll miss the game. As far as I'm concerned it's a football stadium where a Rugby team sometimes play. The tail should never wag the dog.

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11 minutes ago, Kingswood Robin said:

You'd hope their would be, the hierarchy have imposed this Rugby situation on us. If not I'll miss the game. As far as I'm concerned it's a football stadium where a Rugby team sometimes play. The tail should never wag the dog.

Even if the rugby had their own stadium, our game against Norwich would still be played on Sunday. 

Because for the final time, our game was moved because the Rugby game was due to be played at the principality stadium. 

To my knowledge this is the first time I can remember one of our fixtures being moved for rugby. 

EFL rules state that a football clubs fixtures take priority in a dual stadium. This was a complete one off. Rugby fans don't like Saturday games. 

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44 minutes ago, redkev said:

Best hope we don’t get to the prem then ,  there will be a lot of matches you hate , just saying like 

Yep! Along with massive hikes in season ticket prices, a lottery for away tickets, entitled premiership fans, VAR.

All in all, I’m kind of wishing we’d stuck with Nigel Pearson and a lesser chance of making it 😂😂

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1 hour ago, David Brent said:

🙋‍♂️I also detest sharing Ashton Gate with the rugby team

My reason is because it’s our home and has been for a long time. Also, the rugby pitch markings look shit. 

Did you realise they sell better pies and pasties at the rugby than they do at the football. You’re missing out. 

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10 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Even if the rugby had their own stadium, our game against Norwich would still be played on Sunday. 

Because for the final time, our game was moved because the Rugby game was due to be played at the principality stadium. 

To my knowledge this is the first time I can remember one of our fixtures being moved for rugby. 

EFL rules state that a football clubs fixtures take priority in a dual stadium. This was a complete one off. Rugby fans don't like Saturday games. 

For the first time....

Are you saying our match was moved because of a Rugby match being played there, but the fact we're sharing a stadium is irrelevant?

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3 hours ago, Keepers Ball said:

I assumed it was on SKY but no. We're playing on Sunday because of the Squatter Egg chasers. 

And because my Son plays on a Sunday, we will miss the match.

And some wonder why I detest sharing the use of the stadium with that lot?

Cough back to the Memorial ffs

You miserable person. The sharing of OUR STADIUM means that we benefit from costs that are shared with the Bears can reduce the losses we make and help to keep us out of trouble with FFP.

The Bears rarely ask us to change match day. This one is for a televised local derby with Gloucester and with the fan numbers coming from just up the road will add some more to Bears and City income.

I'll be there for both games and hope to see two wins for Bristol.

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4 minutes ago, Kingswood Robin said:

For the first time....

Are you saying our match was moved because of a Rugby match being played there, but the fact we're sharing a stadium is irrelevant?

The rugby match being played at Ashton Gate was originally going to be played over in Cardiff. This was still the plan when City’s game got moved to the Sunday, back in June.

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This game won't be easy by any means Norwich have some real attacking talent in there squad if we can keep the back door shut and get at there leaky defence by being attacking then we might be okay liam manning coming up against his home town club aswell so I'd imagine he already knows alot about them.

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I'm another one that can't make it as i don't finish work till 2 (would be the same if it was a 1.30 Saturday KO) honestly don't know why i bother with a season ticket as i've missed so many games over the last few years due to 15:00 KO times being changed

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5 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said:

The rugby match being played at Ashton Gate was originally going to be played over in Cardiff. This was still the plan when City’s game got moved to the Sunday, back in June.

Okay thanks. It's just that W-S-M Seagull suggested our game was being moved because of the Rugby.

Do we know why it was moved back in June, if it wasn't because of Rugby?

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3 hours ago, Keepers Ball said:

I assumed it was on SKY but no. We're playing on Sunday because of the Squatter Egg chasers. 

And because my Son plays on a Sunday, we will miss the match.

And some wonder why I detest sharing the use of the stadium with that lot?

Cough back to the Memorial ffs

It's ridiculous not sure why the bears game couldn't be moved instead ? Why can't they play Sunday afternoon and us Saturday ashton gate has been the home of  Bristol city for over 100 years and we play second fiddle it also bugs me that we don't have the bristol city crest up outside as you walk into the fan village.

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5 minutes ago, TV Tom said:

I'm another one that can't make it as i don't finish work till 2 (would be the same if it was a 1.30 Saturday KO) honestly don't know why i bother with a season ticket as i've missed so many games over the last few years due to 15:00 KO times being changed

This is the only time it’s happened this year, isn’t it? Outside of games over festive period etc 
 

Sky is 99% of times the only reason it changes, which effects every club. Part of me actually dreads the impact of the PL if we ever got there. Think it’s something like around half the games for every club are ever actually played at Saturday 3pm because of the tv deals/rights. 

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2 minutes ago, BCFC31 said:

It's ridiculous not sure why the bears game couldn't be moved instead ? Why can't they play Sunday afternoon and us Saturday ashton gate has been the home of  Bristol city for over 100 years and we play second fiddle it also bugs me that we don't have the bristol city crest up outside as you walk into the fan village.

I believe (someone may correct me) but the football club gets first option and decision on everything, not the Bears. So it would’ve been a City decision to have Bears tomorrow and us Sunday. Club may have seen an away day to Southampton on a Wednesday, freezing cold night against a side we’d be doing along of running against, as an opportune time to get an extra day of rest before the next game?

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3 minutes ago, Kingswood Robin said:

Okay thanks. It's just that W-S-M Seagull suggested our game was being moved because of the Rugby.

Do we know why it was moved back in June, if it wasn't because of Rugby?

It was moved because of the Rugby, but not because it was due to be played at Ashton Gate.

They just didn't want a fixture clash and moved our match to give people the opportunity to go to both. The location of the rugby was irrelevant.

I think that's what has been said anyway.

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1 minute ago, richwwtk said:

It was moved because of the Rugby, but not because it was due to be played at Ashton Gate.

They just didn't want a fixture clash and moved our match to give people the opportunity to go to both. The location of the rugby was irrelevant.

I think that's what has been said anyway.

Spot on. Would have worked as well as if they were playing the rugby over at the Millennium tomorrow, there’s a few of us who’d have gone over for the day. 

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1 minute ago, petehinton said:

This is the only time it’s happened this year, isn’t it? Outside of games over festive period etc 
 

Sky is 99% of times the only reason it changes, which effects every club. Part of me actually dreads the impact of the PL if we ever got there. Think it’s something like around half the games for every club are ever actually played at Saturday 3pm because of the tv deals/rights. 

You're right so far regarding this season, usually the Welsh games get changed, Norwich on Sunday, why they've moved Hull to a Friday night in a couple of weeks time is beyond me as there is no egg-chasing on Saturday. 

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2 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said:

Spot on. Would have worked as well as if they were playing the rugby over at the Millennium tomorrow, there’s a few of us who’d have gone over for the day. 

So later on this month on Friday night 22nd will you be at AG for our game against Hull or will you be travelling up to Newcastle to watch Bristol play Newcastle Falcons? both kick off at 19:45 

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2 hours ago, Super said:

It's their home as well. The we've been here longer argument is irrelevant.

It's not though isit. Ashton gate historically has been the home of Bristol city football club since 1887 just because lansdown now owns it and leases it to us and the bears doesn't mean we should be okay with that. Ashton gate should be rich with our footballing history instead it's all been watered down to be used multipurposely we don't even have our club crest up on the outside as you walk in the players tunnel is full of bears photos etc not for me tbh and this isn't even mentioning the wear and tare on the pitch it's a commercialised thing done by Steve bristol city is very commercialised these days which has its pros and cons but does seem to strip away some of that rich history imo

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10 minutes ago, TV Tom said:

You're right so far regarding this season, usually the Welsh games get changed, Norwich on Sunday, why they've moved Hull to a Friday night in a couple of weeks time is beyond me as there is no egg-chasing on Saturday. 

Totally missed that, that is odd. Christmas maybe? God knows. 

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4 minutes ago, BCFC31 said:

It's not though isit. Ashton gate historically has been the home of Bristol city football club since 1887 just because lansdown now owns it and leases it to us and the bears doesn't mean we should be okay with that. Ashton gate should be rich with our footballing history instead it's all been watered down to be used multipurposely we don't even have our club crest up on the outside as you walk in the players tunnel is full of bears photos etc not for me tbh and this isn't even mentioning the wear and tare on the pitch it's a commercialised thing done by Steve bristol city is very commercialised these days which has its pros and cons but does seem to strip away some of that rich history imo

I mean that commercialised bit is part of the modern game, element of it is needed to just stand still but it is a bit Idk. Necessary evil?

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19 minutes ago, petehinton said:

I believe (someone may correct me) but the football club gets first option and decision on everything, not the Bears. So it would’ve been a City decision to have Bears tomorrow and us Sunday. Club may have seen an away day to Southampton on a Wednesday, freezing cold night against a side we’d be doing along of running against, as an opportune time to get an extra day of rest before the next game?

That's a good valid point to be fair 

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4 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

I mean that commercialised bit is part of the modern game, element of it is needed to just stand still but it is a bit Idk. Necessary evil?

It's certainly needed I agree I guess its just all about striking the right balance with things which the current ownership has got wrong in recent times don't even get me started on giving away fans the whole stand behind our goal 🤦🏻‍♂️

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2 minutes ago, BCFC31 said:

It's certainly needed I agree I guess its just all about striking the right balance with things which the current ownership has got wrong in recent times don't even get me started on given away fans the whole stand behind our goal 🤦🏻‍♂️

Not a huge fan of it but as you say needed but so is a balance.

Ha yeah that's an increasing bugbear of mine (and probably many fans) too. Really can give away sides an inbuilt advantage.

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55 minutes ago, italian dave said:

Yep! Along with massive hikes in season ticket prices, a lottery for away tickets, entitled premiership fans, VAR.

All in all, I’m kind of wishing we’d stuck with Nigel Pearson and a lesser chance of making it 😂😂

I'm not sure you will get off scot-free with that comment :laugh:.

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18 minutes ago, TV Tom said:

You're right so far regarding this season, usually the Welsh games get changed, Norwich on Sunday, why they've moved Hull to a Friday night in a couple of weeks time is beyond me as there is no egg-chasing on Saturday. 

That’ll definitely be because it’s Christmas weekend, lots of people will be travelling on the Saturday or last minute shopping.

Years ago it was always called Black Saturday and tended to attract smaller crowds as everyone would be Christmas shopping. Nowadays most people would more likely to be Christmas shopping in November 

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26 minutes ago, BCFC31 said:

It's not though isit. Ashton gate historically has been the home of Bristol city football club since 1887 just because lansdown now owns it and leases it to us and the bears doesn't mean we should be okay with that. Ashton gate should be rich with our footballing history instead it's all been watered down to be used multipurposely we don't even have our club crest up on the outside as you walk in the players tunnel is full of bears photos etc not for me tbh and this isn't even mentioning the wear and tare on the pitch it's a commercialised thing done by Steve bristol city is very commercialised these days which has its pros and cons but does seem to strip away some of that rich history imo

Since 1904, Bedminster FC played there from 1887, We played at St John's Lane from 1897 till we moved to the gate.

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14 minutes ago, petehinton said:

Totally missed that, that is odd. Christmas maybe? God knows. 

Last Saturday before Xmas always seen as the worst one for attendances.

Cliche of loads of blokes doing last minute Christmas shopping instead, I think.

Plenty of sides move their game to avoid, Swansea have done so, too.

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1 hour ago, 22A said:

OMG; their fans are soooo depressed looking forward to this game.

https://forum.pinkun.com/index.php?/topic/154464-bristol-on-sunday/

In that case, and given the state of this forum since NP's departure, perhaps the game should be sponsored by the Samaritans! 

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3 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Last Saturday before Xmas always seen as the worst one for attendances.

Cliche of loads of blokes doing last minute Christmas shopping instead, I think.

Plenty of sides move their game the. to avoid, Swansea have done so too.

Last time i looked we are the only team in the FL that have moved their game from Saturday to Friday night, i would also imagine that a lot of people would of finished work early for xmas and the last place they are likely to be is at AG on a Friday night to watch Hull City !!!

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21 minutes ago, petehinton said:

Totally missed that, that is odd. Christmas maybe? God knows. 

 

7 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Last Saturday before Xmas always seen as the worst one for attendances.

Cliche of loads of blokes doing last minute Christmas shopping instead, I think.

Plenty of sides move their game to avoid, Swansea have done so, too.

Didn’t we also say something about an extra days rest before the Boxing Day when we moved it? 

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3 minutes ago, TV Tom said:

Last time i looked we are the only team in the FL that have moved their game from Saturday to Friday night, i would also imagine that a lot of people would of finished work early for xmas and the last place they are likely to be is at AG on a Friday night to watch Hull City !!!

Swansea have, I said that.

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8 minutes ago, pillred said:

Since 1904, Bedminster FC played there until 1897. We played at St John's Lane until 1897.

Apparently my gran always used to ask my dad "How did South End get on today" and that was thirty years after they moved to AG, she was born in 1878 !!!!

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7 minutes ago, TV Tom said:

Last time i looked we are the only team in the FL that have moved their game from Saturday to Friday night, i would also imagine that a lot of people would of finished work early for xmas and the last place they are likely to be is at AG on a Friday night to watch Hull City !!!

I’m glad it’s at home. Horrible journey for Hull fans, with all the Christmas traffic. 

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Aside from Swansea in our division, Cambridge v Exeter in League One & 6 games in League Two are all playing then instead of the Saturday.

I absolutely get the point about it being a pig for the Hull fans but it really isn’t unusual.

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57 minutes ago, richwwtk said:

It was moved because of the Rugby, but not because it was due to be played at Ashton Gate.

They just didn't want a fixture clash and moved our match to give people the opportunity to go to both. The location of the rugby was irrelevant.

I think that's what has been said anyway.

That possibly makes me feel even more peeved about it!

Thanks for the explanation. 

I coach an Avon Youth league team on Sunday mornings, so no chance of getting there. Do you know if there's any way to swap a season ticket for Robins TV for the one game, or is it just pay again?  

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7 minutes ago, Kingswood Robin said:

That possibly makes me feel even more peeved about it!

Thanks for the explanation. 

I coach an Avon Youth league team on Sunday mornings, so no chance of getting there. Do you know if there's any way to swap a season ticket for Robins TV for the one game, or is it just pay again?  

Lots of kids and dads will be at the kids football on Sunday morning/afternoon

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3 minutes ago, Super said:

Lots play footy on a Saturday so the odd game on a Sunday gives them a chance to see a game. 

This is true (I used to work Saturdays and Tuesday nights !), but it's a bit annoying when you've already paid for a season ticket and my son and I have to miss out. If you could substitute your ticket (don't know if it's possible) for Robins TV that would help.

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1 hour ago, BCFC31 said:

It's not though isit. Ashton gate historically has been the home of Bristol city football club since 1887

Historically, Yes

Going forward, No

We've both got another 119 years lease to play at AG8

45 minutes ago, myol'man said:

Why on earth would they plan to play Bristol vs Gloucester in CARDIFF?

Last time I looked that was in a different country 🤔

All about money, Look at the pay days other sides have got that have played at bigger grounds

Different country doesn't really apply in club sport, especially as mileage wise it isn't that far away for either side

Fortunately it was an idea that wasn't followed up

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58 minutes ago, TV Tom said:

Did we play up there on a Friday earlier in the season?

Yes and that's why the home game against them was switched to the Friday too. 

For a fixture to be changed both clubs need to agree. Hull needed to move their home game against us to the Friday so we said OK but only if we move our home game against them to the Friday too. 

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21 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Yes and that's why the home game against them was switched to the Friday too. 

For a fixture to be changed both clubs need to agree. Hull needed to move their home game against us to the Friday so we said OK but only if we move our home game against them to the Friday too. 

Seems strange to me, no other team are moving their games just for the extra day off (bar Swansea) 

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3 minutes ago, TV Tom said:

Seems strange to me, no other team are moving their games just for the extra day off (bar Swansea) 

On a personal level I am happy about the fixture move to Friday night, got a big family event on the Saturday and would have missed it.

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1 minute ago, TV Tom said:

Seems strange to me, no other team are moving their games just for the extra day off (bar Swansea) 

Because both clubs need to agree to it is my guess. 

We were able to get Hull to agree to it because they requested we move their home game against us to the Friday. 

From a footballing perspective it makes perfect sense to move the game forward to the Friday as gives longer recovery time ahead of the boxing day game.

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