Senior Reds today, guest Jon Lansdown

[Galley is our king]

As above, said a few very noncommittal words and then went into a Q and A.

The Hen and chicken it was not!

First question about the accounts and when would they be published?

Answer.... they are being bought into line and published with the other members of the group, no idea when that would be.

Second question. Could you please explain why Phil Alexander left the football club? 

Answer..... We felt things weren't going as well as we expected, nothing particular and Brian Tinnion was growing into the role.

Third question. Do you feel that you should listen to the opinions of experienced supporters when making big decisions like changing managers? (Some clapping).

Answer.... we can't consult on everything but everything we do is in the best interests of the club.

Forth question. Now Liam Manning is here, what do you consider to be a successful season?

Answer.... well there are an awful lot of points still to play for so we are looking for progression.

When pressed he said TOP 10!!!!!

Fifth question. Do you understand the disappointment that the fan base currently feel about the current board of directors.

Answer.... well you can't please everyone and I'd like to think many do support us.

There were other important questions about lighting in the stadium during evening games, music too loud and giving the opposition an advantage by then having the Atyeo stand. Sorry if I missed any others, please add!!!

Don't think he enjoyed this at all so it was ended although there were others wanting to ask further questions.

My second question would have been.... If you consider 10th to be a successful season why did you sack a manager when we were eleventh?

Worked well as everyone was too old to work for Bristol Sport.......

[exAtyeoMax]

1 minute ago, Galley is our king said:

As above, said a few very noncommittal words and then went into a Q and A.

The Hen and chicken it was not!

First question about the accounts and when would they be published?

Answer.... they are being bought into line and published with the other members of the group, no idea when that would be.

Second question. Could you please explain why Phil Alexander left the football club? 

Answer..... We felt things weren't going as well as we expected, nothing particular and Brian Tinnion was growing into the role.

Third question. Do you feel that you should listen to the opinions of experienced supporters when making big decisions like changing managers? (Some clapping).

Answer.... we can't consult on everything but everything we do is in the best interests of the club.

Forth question. Now Liam Manning is here, what do you consider to be a successful season?

Answer.... well there are an awful lot of points still to play for so we are looking for progression.

When pressed he said TOP 10!!!!!

Fifth question. Do you understand the disappointment that the fan base currently feel about the current board of directors.

Answer.... well you can't please everyone and I'd like to think many do support us.

There were other important questions about lighting in the stadium during evening games, music too loud and giving the opposition an advantage by then having the Atyeo stand. Sorry if I missed any others, please add!!!

Don't think he enjoyed this at all so it was ended although there were others wanting to ask further questions.

My second question would have been.... If you consider 10th to be a successful season why did you sack a manager when we were eleventh?

Worked well as everyone was too old to work for Bristol Sport.......

Was there any explanation of that? What exactly is his role? Technical Director and CEO? ??

[Galley is our king]

1 minute ago, exAtyeoMax said:

Was there any explanation of that? What exactly is his role? Technical Director and CEO? ??

No, surprised me though. Academy director, technical director and CEO duties. Peter principal?

Or JL got confused?

[Mr Popodopolous]

Fantastic, and thank you for posting.

I'm glad to see a better standard of Questions and Answers than the big waste of an opportunity that was the Fans Forum.

Top 10 isn't an unreasonable goal and think we were on track to push for it under NP personally.

Accounts bit sounds all a bit vague and chaotic from him and the hierarchy although the structure looks poor now and tbh most clubs haven't published yet so we are in line.

Edited December 21, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[lenred]

15 minutes ago, Galley is our king said:

As above, said a few very noncommittal words and then went into a Q and A.

The Hen and chicken it was not!

First question about the accounts and when would they be published?

Answer.... they are being bought into line and published with the other members of the group, no idea when that would be.

Second question. Could you please explain why Phil Alexander left the football club? 

Answer..... We felt things weren't going as well as we expected, nothing particular and Brian Tinnion was growing into the role.

Third question. Do you feel that you should listen to the opinions of experienced supporters when making big decisions like changing managers? (Some clapping).

Answer.... we can't consult on everything but everything we do is in the best interests of the club.

Forth question. Now Liam Manning is here, what do you consider to be a successful season?

Answer.... well there are an awful lot of points still to play for so we are looking for progression.

When pressed he said TOP 10!!!!!

Fifth question. Do you understand the disappointment that the fan base currently feel about the current board of directors.

Answer.... well you can't please everyone and I'd like to think many do support us.

There were other important questions about lighting in the stadium during evening games, music too loud and giving the opposition an advantage by then having the Atyeo stand. Sorry if I missed any others, please add!!!

Don't think he enjoyed this at all so it was ended although there were others wanting to ask further questions.

My second question would have been.... If you consider 10th to be a successful season why did you sack a manager when we were eleventh?

Worked well as everyone was too old to work for Bristol Sport.......

Thanks G. Great update and appreciated. 

[2015]

20 minutes ago, Galley is our king said:

 

Third question. Do you feel that you should listen to the opinions of experienced supporters when making big decisions like changing managers? (Some clapping).

Answer.... we can't consult on everything but everything we do is in the best interests of the club.

 

Fifth question. Do you understand the disappointment that the fan base currently feel about the current board of directors.

Answer.... well you can't please everyone and I'd like to think many do support us.

 

Translated: We don't really care much about what the fans think, it's our club and therefore we decide who is in charge, not you fans. To hell with those supporters who disagree with the decisions we make.

[Barrs Court Red]

1 minute ago, 2015 said:

Translated: We don't really care much about what the fans think, it's our club and therefore we decide who is in charge, not you fans. To hell with those supporters who disagree with the decisions we make.

In fairness, it’s an improvement when he dismisses fans views as “noise”.

[fisherrich]

5 minutes ago, 2015 said:

Translated: We don't really care much about what the fans think, it's our club and therefore we decide who is in charge, not you fans. To hell with those supporters who disagree with the decisions we make.

Post of the day

[CityReds]

20 minutes ago, 2015 said:

Translated: We don't really care much about what the fans think, it's our club and therefore we decide who is in charge, not you fans. To hell with those supporters who disagree with the decisions we make.

Are there clubs in the PL & EFL who don’t own the club but do choose their managers ahead of their board? 

Forest for example, as much as what Cooper did for them and singing his name from the stands, most are actually pleased he’s been replaced.

Edited December 21, 2023 by CityReds

[Red white and red]

35 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Fantastic, and thank you for posting.

I'm glad to see a better standard of Questions and Answers than the big waste of an opportunity that was the Fans Forum.

Top 10 isn't an unreasonable goal and think we were on track to push for it under NP personally.

Accounts bit sounds all a bit vague and chaotic from him and the hierarchy although the structure looks poor now and tbh most clubs haven't published yet so we are in line.

Supposed to be top 6 though aren’t we? It hasn’t taken him long to backtrack on his very shortsighted previous comments of top 6. Ambitious or naïve?

[exAtyeoMax]

42 minutes ago, Galley is our king said:

No, surprised me though. Academy director, technical director and CEO duties. Peter principal?

Or JL got confused?

he said the same at the Hen & Chicken. I'd liked to hear him explain it more though. WTAF is Tins doing in charge of everything. It's just bullshit really, I don't have any respect for JL and what he spouts.

Edited December 21, 2023 by exAtyeoMax

[Mr Popodopolous]

Just now, Red white and red said:

Supposed to be top 6 though aren’t we? It hasn’t taken him long to backtrack on his very shortsighted previous comments of top 6. Ambitious or naïve?

They should never have proclaimed top 6 and all that crap. Top 10 would've been reasonable NP or Manning.

That's not to say that if things hadn't gone really well and we had barely any injuries we couldn't sneak in, but the claims of Lansdown, Tinnion and in his sole interview Marshall were ridiculous.

[Street red]

42 minutes ago, Galley is our king said:

As above, said a few very noncommittal words and then went into a Q and A.

The Hen and chicken it was not!

First question about the accounts and when would they be published?

Answer.... they are being bought into line and published with the other members of the group, no idea when that would be.

Second question. Could you please explain why Phil Alexander left the football club? 

Answer..... We felt things weren't going as well as we expected, nothing particular and Brian Tinnion was growing into the role.

Third question. Do you feel that you should listen to the opinions of experienced supporters when making big decisions like changing managers? (Some clapping).

Answer.... we can't consult on everything but everything we do is in the best interests of the club.

Forth question. Now Liam Manning is here, what do you consider to be a successful season?

Answer.... well there are an awful lot of points still to play for so we are looking for progression.

When pressed he said TOP 10!!!!!

Fifth question. Do you understand the disappointment that the fan base currently feel about the current board of directors.

Answer.... well you can't please everyone and I'd like to think many do support us.

There were other important questions about lighting in the stadium during evening games, music too loud and giving the opposition an advantage by then having the Atyeo stand. Sorry if I missed any others, please add!!!

Don't think he enjoyed this at all so it was ended although there were others wanting to ask further questions.

My second question would have been.... If you consider 10th to be a successful season why did you sack a manager when we were eleventh?

Worked well as everyone was too old to work for Bristol Sport.......

Fab questions well just about sums him up and the answer of top 10 so why did we sack the manager then ...The bloke just doesn't give a toss.

Not sure your question about the music is to loud justified because that's what the system is for to create atmosphere and also health @safety and announcements it's supposed to clear clarity. Most stadiums have loud music but ours just sounds awful because it's crap  

[exAtyeoMax]

5 minutes ago, Red white and red said:

Supposed to be top 6 though aren’t we? It hasn’t taken him long to backtrack on his very shortsighted previous comments of top 6. Ambitious or naïve?

Dishonest? Bullshit? 

1 minute ago, Street red said:

Fab questions well just about sums him up and the answer of top 10 so why did we sack the manager then ...The bloke just doesn't give a toss.

Not sure your question about the music is to loud justified because that's what the system is for to create atmosphere and also health @safety and announcements it's supposed to clear clarity. Most stadiums have loud music but ours just sounds awful because it's crap  

no it's too loud. If you can't talk to the person directly behind you, it's too loud.

Edited December 21, 2023 by exAtyeoMax

[marmite]

Not surprised he felt uncomfortable in front of real fans with unscripted questions.  Was he there alone? When I've seen him doing Q&A  before he usually has a sidekick as back-up.

[Mr Popodopolous]

I assume the Lighting thing is something imposed upon us or at least strongly recommended at the behest of our benign and all-knowing, illustrious Safety Advisory Group.

PA System and music, they have a back-up system for Emergencies don't they? They could ride it down, they could also turn it off 10-15 mins before kick-off to let a bit of atmosphere build naturally.

Atyeo Stand well it's easiest and most cost effective for the club isn't it. They won't publicly admit to it I expect.

One other bugbear of mine, reading the opposition side out first- or am I alone there.

Edited December 21, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[fisherrich]

9 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

he said the same at the Hen & Chicken. I'd liked to hear him explain it more though. WTAF is Tins doing in charge of everything. It's just bullshit really, I don't have any respect for JL and what he spouts.

He’s conned a lot of City fans though

[Natchfever]

So.. JL really is an egotistical yet incompetent ***** 

Well done Senior Reds.

[exAtyeoMax]

4 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

I assume the Lighting tjng is something imppsed upon us or at least strongly recommended at the behest of our benign and all-knowing, illustrious Safety Advisory Group.

PA System and music, they have a back-up system for Emergencies don't they? They could ride it down, they could also turn it off 10-15 mins before kick-off to let a bit of atmosphere build naturally.

Atyeo Stand well it's easiest and most cost effective for the club isn't it. They won't publicly admit to it I expect.

One other bugbear of mine, reading the opposition side out first- or am I alone there.

One of mine is playing OFTBC at the wrong time, they always play it too late. It should start as the teams come out not when they've lined up on the pitch. 

[Redrascal2]

1 hour ago, Galley is our king said:

As above, said a few very noncommittal words and then went into a Q and A.

The Hen and chicken it was not!

First question about the accounts and when would they be published?

Answer.... they are being bought into line and published with the other members of the group, no idea when that would be.

Second question. Could you please explain why Phil Alexander left the football club? 

Answer..... We felt things weren't going as well as we expected, nothing particular and Brian Tinnion was growing into the role.

Third question. Do you feel that you should listen to the opinions of experienced supporters when making big decisions like changing managers? (Some clapping).

Answer.... we can't consult on everything but everything we do is in the best interests of the club.

Forth question. Now Liam Manning is here, what do you consider to be a successful season?

Answer.... well there are an awful lot of points still to play for so we are looking for progression.

When pressed he said TOP 10!!!!!

Fifth question. Do you understand the disappointment that the fan base currently feel about the current board of directors.

Answer.... well you can't please everyone and I'd like to think many do support us.

There were other important questions about lighting in the stadium during evening games, music too loud and giving the opposition an advantage by then having the Atyeo stand. Sorry if I missed any others, please add!!!

Don't think he enjoyed this at all so it was ended although there were others wanting to ask further questions.

My second question would have been.... If you consider 10th to be a successful season why did you sack a manager when we were eleventh?

Worked well as everyone was too old to work for Bristol Sport.......

He is f'ing useless. He brushes over genuine concerns of supporters and is unable to deal with  factual questions like the question over the accounts. 

[Galley is our king]

11 minutes ago, marmite said:

Not surprised he felt uncomfortable in front of real fans with unscripted questions.  Was he there alone? When I've seen him doing Q&A  before he usually has a sidekick as back-up.

No, on his own. I  expect he thought a bit of flattery at the start... " you must be our most loyal supporters" "So happy to see so many people here" etc but no, definitely didn't work.

[Mr Popodopolous]

3 minutes ago, Redrascal2 said:

He is f'ing useless. He brushes over genuine concerns of supporters and is unable to deal with  factual questions like the question over the accounts. 

He took a stronger role when SL moved to Guernsey didn't he. I'm not saying SL is brilliant by any stretch but..

Within 2.5 seasons we had slid to the bottom of League 1 and were on our 4th permanent manager of the period.

It doesn't seems like Jon Lansdown has especially improved almost a decade on.

[ChippenhamRed]

1 hour ago, Galley is our king said:

As above, said a few very noncommittal words and then went into a Q and A.

The Hen and chicken it was not!

First question about the accounts and when would they be published?

Answer.... they are being bought into line and published with the other members of the group, no idea when that would be.

Second question. Could you please explain why Phil Alexander left the football club? 

Answer..... We felt things weren't going as well as we expected, nothing particular and Brian Tinnion was growing into the role.

Third question. Do you feel that you should listen to the opinions of experienced supporters when making big decisions like changing managers? (Some clapping).

Answer.... we can't consult on everything but everything we do is in the best interests of the club.

Forth question. Now Liam Manning is here, what do you consider to be a successful season?

Answer.... well there are an awful lot of points still to play for so we are looking for progression.

When pressed he said TOP 10!!!!!

Fifth question. Do you understand the disappointment that the fan base currently feel about the current board of directors.

Answer.... well you can't please everyone and I'd like to think many do support us.

There were other important questions about lighting in the stadium during evening games, music too loud and giving the opposition an advantage by then having the Atyeo stand. Sorry if I missed any others, please add!!!

Don't think he enjoyed this at all so it was ended although there were others wanting to ask further questions.

My second question would have been.... If you consider 10th to be a successful season why did you sack a manager when we were eleventh?

Worked well as everyone was too old to work for Bristol Sport.......

Anything about the quality and stock issues with the merchandise?

[ExiledAjax]

Very good. Well done Senior Reds!

[East End Old Boy]

1 hour ago, Galley is our king said:

As above, said a few very noncommittal words and then went into a Q and A.

The Hen and chicken it was not!

First question about the accounts and when would they be published?

Answer.... they are being bought into line and published with the other members of the group, no idea when that would be.

Second question. Could you please explain why Phil Alexander left the football club? 

Answer..... We felt things weren't going as well as we expected, nothing particular and Brian Tinnion was growing into the role.

Third question. Do you feel that you should listen to the opinions of experienced supporters when making big decisions like changing managers? (Some clapping).

Answer.... we can't consult on everything but everything we do is in the best interests of the club.

Forth question. Now Liam Manning is here, what do you consider to be a successful season?

Answer.... well there are an awful lot of points still to play for so we are looking for progression.

When pressed he said TOP 10!!!!!

Fifth question. Do you understand the disappointment that the fan base currently feel about the current board of directors.

Answer.... well you can't please everyone and I'd like to think many do support us.

There were other important questions about lighting in the stadium during evening games, music too loud and giving the opposition an advantage by then having the Atyeo stand. Sorry if I missed any others, please add!!!

Don't think he enjoyed this at all so it was ended although there were others wanting to ask further questions.

My second question would have been.... If you consider 10th to be a successful season why did you sack a manager when we were eleventh?

Worked well as everyone was too old to work for Bristol Sport.......

Good summary, thank you.

The first question included why are the accounts overdue, which was incorrect as they’re not due for another 3 months I believe?

Also, I missed him including Brian Tinnion, and the context, in the Phil Alexander answer!

[The Wild Bunch]

14 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

One of mine is playing OFTBC at the wrong time, they always play it too late. It should start as the teams come out not when they've lined up on the pitch. 

Spot on.  Downsy should be quiet and just play City related music 10 mins before kick off.  At least we got rid of Seven Nation Army!

Another thing is why do we play RHCP over the video montage at the beginning of the match.  Play a Bristol City related song!

[And Its Smith]

That’s a new low for JL I’d say. Having no idea when the accounts will be out shows a complete lack of knowledge when he is supposed to be chairman of the club. He should be all over details like that. Saying that Alexander left due to nothing in particular is just a lie.  

[Silvio Dante]

4 minutes ago, The Wild Bunch said:

Spot on.  Downsy should be quiet and just play City related music 10 mins before kick off.  At least we got rid of Seven Nation Army!

Another thing is why do we play RHCP over the video montage at the beginning of the match.  Play a Bristol City related song!

I can answer that. Jon is a bit confused between the abbreviation for the band and the abbreviation for the training ground. 

[Robbored]

Steve Lansdown is a man I respect. He’s very honest and straightforward in his dealings with the fans and he has certain confidence and a powerful aura around him as many self made men do.

I certainly don’t have the same respect for our Chairman. For a start he’s not a self man man who’s created his own wealth and consequently doesn’t have the same confidence or aura that successful men have. 

[Kid in the Riot]

Well done to our senior supporters for at least attempting to hold him to account, unlike that complete embarrassment at the Hen last month. 

Shame this one wasn't filmed so we could see him squirm. 

[chinapig]

28 minutes ago, Redrascal2 said:

He is f'ing useless. He brushes over genuine concerns of supporters and is unable to deal with  factual questions like the question over the accounts. 

A club Chairman who has no idea when the accounts will be done?!

Maybe he would if they were done in crayon.

[chinapig]

14 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Saying that Alexander left due to nothing in particular is just a lie.  

Is there anything he says that isn't a lie?

[Mr Popodopolous]

I won't labour the point about the accounts or lack of as the case is right now but 2 things:

1) Statutory deadline- 9 months after period ends. Was end of May so end of February, extended a month therefore the end of March.

2) Internal deadline for EFL- 1st March, alongside the Projections for the current season.

Edited December 21, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[bearded_red]

The bloke hasn’t got the foggiest. About anything.

[ExiledAjax]

25 minutes ago, East End Old Boy said:

Good summary, thank you.

The first question included why are the accounts overdue, which was incorrect as they’re not due for another 3 months I believe?

Also, I missed him including Brian Tinnion, and the context, in the Phil Alexander answer!

But iirc that's only because they changed the reporting date in the summer.

Don't have the filings to hand but I'm 99% that there were AA01 filings made in the summer to align accounting dates.

But that does mean they aren't out at the same time as previous years.

[Mr Popodopolous]

Just now, ExiledAjax said:

But iirc that's only because they changed the reporting date in the summer.

Don't have the filings to hand but I'm 99% that there were AA01 filings made in the summer to align accounting dates.

But that does mean they aren't out at the same time as previous years.

We often release them on the club site anyway around November, December time in recent years.

I appreciate this will be a 13 month period but it shouldn't be too difficult really.

[And Its Smith]

We have JL and Tinnion as two of the highest ranking people at the club. Scary 

[The Wild Bunch]

1 minute ago, And Its Smith said:

We have JL and Tinnion as two of the highest ranking people at the club. Scary 

And no CEO.

[Shauntaylor85]

1 hour ago, Galley is our king said:

As above, said a few very noncommittal words and then went into a Q and A.

The Hen and chicken it was not!

First question about the accounts and when would they be published?

Answer.... they are being bought into line and published with the other members of the group, no idea when that would be.

Second question. Could you please explain why Phil Alexander left the football club? 

Answer..... We felt things weren't going as well as we expected, nothing particular and Brian Tinnion was growing into the role.

Third question. Do you feel that you should listen to the opinions of experienced supporters when making big decisions like changing managers? (Some clapping).

Answer.... we can't consult on everything but everything we do is in the best interests of the club.

Forth question. Now Liam Manning is here, what do you consider to be a successful season?

Answer.... well there are an awful lot of points still to play for so we are looking for progression.

When pressed he said TOP 10!!!!!

Fifth question. Do you understand the disappointment that the fan base currently feel about the current board of directors.

Answer.... well you can't please everyone and I'd like to think many do support us.

There were other important questions about lighting in the stadium during evening games, music too loud and giving the opposition an advantage by then having the Atyeo stand. Sorry if I missed any others, please add!!!

Don't think he enjoyed this at all so it was ended although there were others wanting to ask further questions.

My second question would have been.... If you consider 10th to be a successful season why did you sack a manager when we were eleventh?

Worked well as everyone was too old to work for Bristol Sport.......

Laughable. A failed former City manager chosen over an award winning PL CEO…..only in BS3

[Mr Popodopolous]

Still leaning towards Gould as CEO but yeah Alexander, NP and his team on the football side and Tinnion in a strict and defined academy remit, SL releasing a bit more cash...potential for success.

This current set-up, just nah. 

Edited December 21, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[archie andrews]

Get jon up the lions for a "chat" i say..... 

[fisherrich]

34 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Well done to our senior supporters for at least attempting to hold him to account, unlike that complete embarrassment at the Hen last month. 

Shame this one wasn't filmed so we could see him squirm. 

Well said. The bloke is a complete fraud. Done nothing whatsoever in life.
Silver spoon fed by daddy. He has no business accumen whatsoever, yet he is running Bristol City FC.

[Mr Popodopolous]

@Ghost Rider

On the thread you posted you raised the point that despite the noise on here, there was a lack of negative questions aimed at Jon Lansdown and Tinnion at the Fans Forum.

Have you seen this thread? The OP kindly put out a transcript from Senior Reds..sounds like he got quite the grilling and rightly so.

Civilly done of course but doesn't come across all that well.

Edited December 21, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[BCFC31]

This clubs is an absolute farse how an earth has tinion became so influential he must be doing some serious ass licking! Jon is a mumbling mess Steve doesn't give a **** who's accountable down there what exactly is the roles just all seems like mates in the office tea biscuits all yes men all very cosy all nice it's a joke of an organisation no one holding anyone accountable or pushing for any kinda of excellence it just has a proper rotten feel to it all down there.

Edited December 21, 2023 by BCFC31

[spudski]

What does Tinnion actually do in the role of CEO?

Seriously...he can't spell, so his adding up must be on Carol Vorderman levels to compensate

When it comes to signings...is he involved in just the football side of things, or does he have involvement with players agents and contracts?

Or do we use our glorified accountant to do that?

So many questions...

I can't get my head around him doing this as well. 

[BrizzleRed]

33 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

Laughable. A failed former City manager chosen over an award winning PL CEO…..only in BS3

Exactly and we aren’t even surprised any more.  

It amazes me there are still people on here who think the Lansdowns are the best thing this club could hope for!!!

[Merrick's Marvels]

58 minutes ago, BCFC31 said:

This clubs is an absolute farse how an earth has tinion became so influential he must be doing some serious ass licking!

Correct.

He's just spent years telling the owner what he wants to hear.

2004:

In the owner's ear - "the players aren't training properly, Steve, cos too many of them are pissed. The manager's a liability, Steve, he's never here. I know better than him, Steve. We've got some great kids, we should be playing the kids, Steve. He should be picking Lita. I'll save you thousands Steve, no more paying half a million quid for pissheads like Peacock. I'll play the kids"

Ad infinitum, year after year. The more he repeated it, the higher up the food chain he climbed.

Just for telling the owner what he wanted to hear. "We've got great kids, Steve. Let's play the kids  it'll save you millions".

Nothing to do with earning promotion because he had proven qualities to do the job.

And 20 years later the same old baloney is still going strong.

2023:

In the owners ear - "the players aren't training properly, Steve, cos they're all having too much time off. The manager's a liability, Steve, he's never here. I know better than him, Steve. We've got some great kids, we should be playing the kids, Steve. He should picking (insert name of latest Academy lad he's bigging up). I'll save you thousands, Steve, no need to spend any of that Scott money. Let's play the kids".

The same old, same old.

And Guernsey just sucks it up, hook, line and sinker.

 

Edited December 21, 2023 by Merrick's Marvels

[redkev]

2 hours ago, Galley is our king said:

As above, said a few very noncommittal words and then went into a Q and A.

The Hen and chicken it was not!

First question about the accounts and when would they be published?

Answer.... they are being bought into line and published with the other members of the group, no idea when that would be.

Second question. Could you please explain why Phil Alexander left the football club? 

Answer..... We felt things weren't going as well as we expected, nothing particular and Brian Tinnion was growing into the role.

Third question. Do you feel that you should listen to the opinions of experienced supporters when making big decisions like changing managers? (Some clapping).

Answer.... we can't consult on everything but everything we do is in the best interests of the club.

Forth question. Now Liam Manning is here, what do you consider to be a successful season?

Answer.... well there are an awful lot of points still to play for so we are looking for progression.

When pressed he said TOP 10!!!!!

Fifth question. Do you understand the disappointment that the fan base currently feel about the current board of directors.

Answer.... well you can't please everyone and I'd like to think many do support us.

There were other important questions about lighting in the stadium during evening games, music too loud and giving the opposition an advantage by then having the Atyeo stand. Sorry if I missed any others, please add!!!

Don't think he enjoyed this at all so it was ended although there were others wanting to ask further questions.

My second question would have been.... If you consider 10th to be a successful season why did you sack a manager when we were eleventh?

Worked well as everyone was too old to work for Bristol Sport.......

I do agree on some things he answered , as somebody who was a senior manager in my line of employment you can’t go round consulting everybody on big decisions as you will never please everyone , you need to have a eye for reading the room though . 

[Street red]

1 minute ago, redkev said:

I do agree on some things he answered , as somebody who was a senior manager in my line of employment you can’t go round consulting everybody on big decisions as you will never please everyone , you need to have a eye for reading the room though . 

Someone must of poked him in both eyes because he certainly didn't have the eye for reading the room 6 or 7 weeks ago.

[Davefevs]

25 minutes ago, spudski said:

What does Tinnion actually do in the role of CEO?

Seriously...he can't spell, so his adding up must be on Carol Vorderman levels to compensate

When it comes to signings...is he involved in just the football side of things, or does he have involvement with players agents and contracts?

Or do we use our glorified accountant to do that?

So many questions...

I can't get my head around him doing this as well. 

It appears that the roles of DoF, CEO, Finance Officer, Operations Officer and Managing Football (above the Head-coach) are split between Tins, TR and GM.

I worry re accountability and responsibility with potential blurred lines.

I am astonished JL could not provide a better / more convincing answer recounts. I don’t expect him to give an exact date, but sounds like he just thinks he’s above answering questions. 

[Mr Popodopolous]

The funny thing about Tinnion.

The season he scraped us into 7th wirh a late rally, 4 places down on the prior 2 seasons.

His budget in 2004-05 was not at all dissimilar to Wilson's final season and he had the benefit of a 29 goal Lita finally emerging- what a fail!

Had nothing on his second season of course.. 

Edited December 21, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[redkev]

6 minutes ago, Street red said:

Someone must of poked him in both eyes because he certainly didn't have the eye for reading the room 6 or 7 weeks ago.

I do agree 

[ExiledAjax]

1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

We often release them on the club site anyway around November, December time in recent years.

I appreciate this will be a 13 month period but it shouldn't be too difficult really.

But I don't think we have ever released them prior to filing them at CH?

If Jon's reading this - the accounts are due by 31 March 2024 mate.

[Mr Popodopolous]

1 minute ago, ExiledAjax said:

But I don't think we have ever released them prior to filing them at CH?

If Jon's reading this - the accounts are due by 31 March 2024 mate.

1st March for the Football League too of course!

I'll check on this CH v site alignment.

[ExiledAjax]

1 hour ago, And Its Smith said:

We have JL and Tinnion as two of the highest ranking people at the club. Scary 

And the only people they are accountable to...are Jon's mum and dad.

Edited December 21, 2023 by ExiledAjax

[Mr Popodopolous]

From a check of 4 or 5, they seem to be on the site anything from a couple of days to a couple of week before they appear on CH.

Either way they are late by our standards in recent years.

[Bristol Oil Services]

1 hour ago, ExiledAjax said:

 

Don't have the filings to hand but I'm 99% that there were AA01 filings made in the summer to align accounting dates.

 

Game's gone

[REDOXO]

I’m glad there were a few questions that needed answering , rather the sycophantic garbage I witnessed before. 
 

Im just trying to forget anyone that isn’t in a red shirt for the foreseeable future and hope they all just disappear never to be seen again! (Trying not to be banned for swearing again. But if you don’t think I mean a well known Anglo Saxon term ending in ‘off’ then you would be wrong)

[Kid in the Riot]

28 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

It appears that the roles of DoF, CEO, Finance Officer, Operations Officer and Managing Football (above the Head-coach) are split between Tins, TR and GM.

I worry re accountability and responsibility with potential blurred lines.

"Worry" is an understatement.  It's terrifying and unprecedented at this level of professional football.

Interviews for Nige's successor were carried out by Jon, his friend (Sean G), and Tinnion. 

They could accidentally appoint the next Pep, and it would still go wrong further down the line, because there is no accountability or footballing noise at the level required. 

The next fall guys will be Tinnion or Manning, or both, and the circus will simply roll on into the next town.

[Shauntaylor85]

9 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

"Worry" is an understatement.  It's terrifying and unprecedented at this level of professional football.

Interviews for Nige's successor were carried out by Jon, his friend (Sean G), and Tinnion. 

They could accidentally appoint the next Pep, and it would still go wrong further down the line, because there is no accountability or footballing noise at the level required. 

The next fall guys will be Tinnion or Manning, or both, and the circus will simply roll on into the next town.

Tinnion will have a job for life, like Murray. Jobs for the boys FC, as I’ve said surprised Millen isn’t on the board, why not bring back Benny while we are at it. 

[noize]

2 hours ago, chinapig said:

A club Chairman who has no idea when the accounts will be done?!

Maybe he would if they were done in crayon.

I expect Tinnion is doing them too, but still growing into the role, hence the hesitation.

[Midlands Robin]

11 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

Tinnion will have a job for life, like Murray. Jobs for the boys FC

Murray's role isn't a problem. Sticking the kits out, collecting the balls after training and having a bit of a laugh and a joke around the dressing room is not a problem. When Buster put his magic spray and bucket down he became the kit man for a while and no one was too bothered about that.

Tinnion on the other hand is more of an issue. It gets lost in the conversation but we aren't some rag ass club but a stable Championship side with a turn over in the millions of pounds. This is a proper business and needs to be run as one. With all due respect to Tinnion, I expect he had some sessions on football finance when he did his pro license but where on earth has he got the experience to run a commercial company? The CEO's role will cross over into the footballing side of the organisation but in the main, it's surely about running a cost effective, commercially viable and growing business. With our year on year losses and constant failings with our commercial activity we certainly can't say we have any of that.

There is however, the Bristol Sport elephant in the room. When Captain Crayola is answering questions he's only talking about Bristol City. Many of the things that effect the supporters day to day are actually in the hands of the Bristol Sport empire. While JL is also the Chairman of Bristol Sport, there's also Lisa Knights, Vicki Long and Gavin Marshall on the board.

How much room to operate does the Bristol City CEO have with that organisation over his head?

[Davefevs]

38 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Interviews for Nige's successor were carried out by Jon, his friend (Sean G), and Tinnion. 

 

Eeeek!!!

[redsquirrel]

31 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

Tinnion will have a job for life, like Murray. Jobs for the boys FC, as I’ve said surprised Millen isn’t on the board, why not bring back Benny while we are at it. 

dont forget mickey bell,must be a role there somewhere for him

[Galley is our king]

3 minutes ago, Ghost Rider said:

Finally, someone's asking thoughtful questions—nothing too demanding, but definitely a step up. It would've been awesome to get detailed answers instead of condensed sentences, but clearly that wasn't possible. I doubt he was only on stage for two minutes.

Many thanks to @Galley is our king for the info—it's truly appreciated. I'm really curious if a complete transcript of the answers will be released. Any word on that, @Galley is our king?

It's fantastic that important questions are being raised, and it's great to see JL becoming more visible. Credit where it's due!

 

Bloody hell mate, it was a Christmas lunch! Obviously next time I'll take my Bloody secretary....

[petehinton]

Sounds like the exact same vibe as the hen & chicken then. Set the stall out early that there’s almost no point in even asking any questions, get shit answers regardless, go home thinking what’s the ******* point. 
 

I used to find genuine intrigue in this stuff, in hindsight due to how the manager or seniors spoke rather than anything actually club related, now I really couldn’t even care less if I tried. 

[tin]

The levels of nepotism at this club in an operational capacity are the sole reason for the club’s malaise, and that stems from Steve. I’ve said it before and will say it again: we will never achieve anything under the Lansdowns. They don’t learn, think they are beyond reproach and double down on their own failed methods and appointments when the world around them is constantly changing. The fact Jon is heading this up is a joke. He’s a lying, arrogant, deluded c***, pure and simple.

Edited December 21, 2023 by tin

[Harry]

Ha ha this has really made me laugh. 
 

Our Chairman doesn’t know when the accounts will be done. 
Fantastic. I don’t think I’ve ever heard anything quite like that! 
 

Just brilliant. 

[Galley is our king]

1 minute ago, Ghost Rider said:

FFS, I clearly wrote that it wasn't possible. All I said was that it would be good to hear what he actually said.

I quote - "It would've been awesome to get detailed answers instead of condensed sentences, but clearly that wasn't possible."
 

And then said...."I'm really interested if a complete transcript of the answers will be released"

"Any word on that"?

So NO is the answer 

[Red from afar]

Out of interest, does the club have any non-executive directors? Surely their guidance should have advised against the current structure as it doesn't seem to conform to best business practice.

Edited December 21, 2023 by Red from afar