Conway - do we cash in?

[Shauntaylor85]

As per the above, I have been thoroughly disappointed with Tommy this season. I don’t think the lone role suits him at all, offers very little threat and struggles up against physical CB. With just 18 months to go I would be tempted to sell this month, I don’t think we will get more than £5M to be honest, but we need a better all round striker to progress. A shame as I really hoped this would be his season but lacks that quality required. 

[OneTeamInBristol]

If we cashed in on Conway now we'd get a few hundred k.

Miles away from a consistent Championship goal scorer currently but not all his fault.

[kmpowell]

Just now, Shauntaylor85 said:

I have been thoroughly disappointed with Tommy this season. I don’t think the lone role suits him at all

No it doesn't suit him, but that's not his fault, he's been put in that position. If I was Tommy I'd be looking for an Exit ASAP.

As I said after the QPR game back in Nov...

 

[Dr Balls]

If no need to sell, we shouldn’t, especially as bids are likely to way lower than anything what we got for Semenyo. His value will actually have reduced this season compared to the end of last season, as clubs will have spotted more of his weaknesses and learnt little more about his strengths.

[CyderInACan]

He's well off it at the moment - cuts a lonely figure nowadays. 

No way do we get £5m for him. He's still learning and will hopefully improve 

[JoeAman08]

Cash in on what? A few goals from the penalty spot? He has seriously regressed imo and his body language hasn’t looked right all season. I couldn’t see anyone in our league or higher seriously considering him. Not in January anyway. Think the sale of Scott has maybe meant we don’t get full value on TC now but that is purely an opinion of mine. 

[Denbury Red]

The best of Conway was seen when he and Wells were playing together - we need to play with a front two - and play Knight deeper so he can affect play.

No space for Weimann and Knight as they play the same role - Weimann needs benching (sad to say) and we need to give Knight a chance to be creative.

The passing yesterday was shocking (apart from at time Matty James) as the ball was played to feet (or behind) so every recipient had to stop their run and couldn't take the ball in their stride - this slowed everything down and encouraged too many back and side passing that we have seen for toooooo long.

 

Watching the Liverpool v Newcastle game when I got home (to S Devon) the biggest difference - apart from the quality of players) was that both teams tried passes, lost possession regularly - then the opposition tried something, and lost possession and they all carried on - more exciting and positive.  Possession football at our level just doesn't work - for the players or the crowd!

[Super]

Playing someone up front with him might help the lad.

[archie andrews]

Play a proper target man alongside tc and he would be a different player imo..... 

[IAmNick]

9 minutes ago, OneTeamInBristol said:

If we cashed in on Conway now we'd get a few hundred k.

Miles away from a consistent Championship goal scorer currently but not all his fault.

I don't think people would be buying a consistent championship goal scorer though, they'd be buying his potential primarily.

I think he's got good attributes - I don't think it'd be worth selling now though as I agree with the gist of your post that we likely wouldn't get enough to make it worthwhile yet. 

4 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said:

Cash in on what? A few goals from the penalty spot? He has seriously regressed imo and his body language hasn’t looked right all season. I couldn’t see anyone in our league or higher seriously considering him. Not in January anyway. Think the sale of Scott has maybe meant we don’t get full value on TC now but that is purely an opinion of mine. 

Regressing implies he's actively getting worse to me which I disagree with. All players go through peaks and troughs, you just have to hope the average of them is increasing. Those peaks/troughs are more pronounced with young players as well. Tommy is in a bit of a trough at the moment but it's also a tough situation on the pitch for him, and upheaval off it (best mate leaving, manager change).

I don't think he's getting worse though, and I think he'll improve.

[JoeAman08]

Just now, IAmNick said:

I don't think people would be buying a consistent championship goal scorer though, they'd be buying his potential primarily.

I think he's got good attributes - I don't think it'd be worth selling now though as I agree with the gist of your post that we likely wouldn't get enough to make it worthwhile yet. 

Regressing implies he's actively getting worse to me which I disagree with. All players go through peaks and troughs, you just have to hope the average of them is increasing. Those peaks/troughs are more pronounced with young players as well. Tommy is in a bit of a trough at the moment but it's also a tough situation on the pitch for him, and upheaval off it (best mate leaving, manager change).

I don't think he's getting worse though, and I think he'll improve.

Idk. Can buy peaks and troughs but he has had no peak for almost a season. Of course manager change, Scott leaving and a few injuries. I just haven’t seen it from him though for near a year now. More worrying is the body language and I am not certain he is working as hard out of possession as he did before. Maybe worried about his hamstrings? Something feels off with him. Not writing him off by any means but we were relying on him this season imo and he hasn’t been close to the levels needed. 

[Natchfever]

22 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

As per the above, I have been thoroughly disappointed with Tommy this season. I don’t think the lone role suits him at all, offers very little threat and struggles up against physical CB. With just 18 months to go I would be tempted to sell this month, I don’t think we will get more than £5M to be honest, but we need a better all round striker to progress. A shame as I really hoped this would be his season but lacks that quality required. 

I don't think hes been himself since returning and the current role doesn't suit.

I'm sure there's a player in there worth a lot more than £5m ultimately though, but the set up would need to suit his strengths.

A dilemma for the club of nest egg building versus football principles perhaps, and I think the latter prevails so early in Mannings tenure, so currently I don't see things changing.

Enough clubs would have seen the quality last season though, so maybe a bid will be incoming that might surprise everyone ?

[Sir Geoff]

5 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said:

Idk. Can buy peaks and troughs but he has had no peak for almost a season. Of course manager change, Scott leaving and a few injuries. I just haven’t seen it from him though for near a year now. More worrying is the body language and I am not certain he is working as hard out of possession as he did before. Maybe worried about his hamstrings? Something feels off with him. Not writing him off by any means but we were relying on him this season imo and he hasn’t been close to the levels needed. 

He's been instructed to not work as hard out of possession and been told to stay in the middle.

Personally I miss the Tommy of last season where he was buzzing around defenders, forcing mistakes and running from deeper to get on the end of things.

[1960maaan]

To cash in we would need a bid, to get decent money he would need to be tearing it up and as we could have prime Lineker up front and he wouldn't score many more. We have pretty much stopped making chances the last few games , yet he has 6 in 13 starts . The system doesn't suit him, as I and many thought his best games came alongside Nahki. Manning isn't going to change the shape to play 2 strikers , so I think we need to get a genuine attacking player around him instead of Knight. Not sure Wells or Weimann fit the bill, I've said elsewhere I'd try Mehmeti but someone to get nearer TC.

[The Swan and Cemetery]

7 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

To cash in we would need a bid, to get decent money he would need to be tearing it up and as we could have prime Lineker up front and he wouldn't score many more. We have pretty much stopped making chances the last few games , yet he has 6 in 13 starts . The system doesn't suit him, as I and many thought his best games came alongside Nahki. Manning isn't going to change the shape to play 2 strikers , so I think we need to get a genuine attacking player around him instead of Knight. Not sure Wells or Weimann fit the bill, I've said elsewhere I'd try Mehmeti but someone to get nearer TC.

Agree, Rush was perhaps the best striker I’ve seen, but his life was made an awful lot easier playing alongside Dalglish. 

[RedEyez]

I would like to think our expert technical director will be advising Manning that TC plays better alongside Wells. That’s if they want to solve the Current Conway Conundrum anyway. 

[Shuffle]

Bhoy would he be a good signing for someone. 

[cidercity1987]

Arghhhh he's being played in the wrong position and his value is decreasing by the game. He is NOT a lone striker and he is NOT Alan Shearer like, someone needs to tell Manning.

Should be banging them in from a withdrawn, second striker position = £10m +

As it was I think we are looking at £5m max, not a couple of hundred thousand  for his potential

[And Its Smith]

58 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

As per the above, I have been thoroughly disappointed with Tommy this season. I don’t think the lone role suits him at all, offers very little threat and struggles up against physical CB. With just 18 months to go I would be tempted to sell this month, I don’t think we will get more than £5M to be honest, but we need a better all round striker to progress. A shame as I really hoped this would be his season but lacks that quality required. 

So he’s not good enough for us BUT he’s worth up to £5m.  Ooookay 

[lenred]

2 minutes ago, Shuffle said:

Bhoy would he be a good signing for someone. 

We mentioned Celtic as an option yesterday when chatting about this at the game. Would be a good fit there, especially given his Scottish connections and representations.   Would much rather he stayed here though and was used appropriately but looks lost atm and despite saying the contrary I think Nige’s leaving has maybe hit him a bit harder than most, alongside losing his best mate to Bournemouth.   

[maxjak]

52 minutes ago, CyderInACan said:

He's well off it at the moment - cuts a lonely figure nowadays. 

No way do we get £5m for him. He's still learning and will hopefully improve 

There is no doubt in my mind that he is quality......but he is young, being played in the wrong role and gets no service.  In the the correct tactical set up he would thrive, I am very Disappointed in LM for persisting with the lone striker formation?  There is nothing wrong with the tactics, it is just that Tommy is just not suited to it?  I do appreciate that LM has little choice, to an extent, so it is now up to him to find a solution during the window, and show us just how tactically aware he is?  We have failed to score against Rooney's (GONE!) Birmingham and a very average Millwall side.............Tommy should NOT  , and i am certain will NOT be sold, but it is now up to our new manager to create a team that plays to TC's strengths.

[Clutton Caveman]

1 hour ago, OneTeamInBristol said:

If we cashed in on Conway now we'd get a few hundred k.

Miles away from a consistent Championship goal scorer currently but not all his fault.

Before his injury he would have left the defender in his wake when he was put through one on one but now whether can't or wont run flat out, he certainly has lost a lot of pace. Also is not suitable to play as the lone striker. Simply not his game.

[Shauntaylor85]

7 minutes ago, Clutton Caveman said:

Before his injury he would have left the defender in his wake when he was put through one on one but now whether can't or wont run flat out, he certainly has lost a lot of pace. Also is not suitable to play as the lone striker. Simply not his game.

Our Tech Director before his exile (first time around) from X, suggested that he was worth more than £20M……..

[old_eastender]

TC has been disappointing in open play, bar his Cameo role at Rotherham, but as many have said playing the lone striker role is not really suiting him. I think we should be offering new contract in the summer and only off-loading if he won't sign an extension.

I do agree that he seems to have lost a yard of pace since returning from injury though.

 

[Northern Red]

Just now, old_eastender said:

TC has been disappointing in open play, bar his Cameo role at Rotherham, but as many have said playing the lone striker role is not really suiting him. I think we should be offering new contract in the summer and only off-loading if he won't sign an extension.

I do agree that he seems to have lost a yard of pace since returning from injury though.

 

People who know more about it than me have said that the new contract has been on the table for some time now.

[Sir Geoff]

1 minute ago, Northern Red said:

People who know more about it than me have said that the new contract has been on the table for some time now.

It has.

[Oh Louie louie]

Doesn't matter if we sell him for five or fifteen, we will be lucky to see half a million for a replacement 

[And Its Smith]

If I was Tommy I would sign that contract 

[Sir Geoff]

5 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

If I was Tommy I would sign that contract 

Why ?

I wouldn't.

[Roger Red Hat]

4 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

If I was Tommy I would sign that contract 

If I was Tommy I wouldn't! I'd look for a team/coach that would play me in a system that more suits my game.

[archie andrews]

28 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

Our Tech Director before his exile (first time around) from X, suggested that he was worth more than £20M……..

Probably on a cut...... 

[Bs4Red]

I personally think he’s been a totally different person since AS left, body language, buzz etc. 

 

Think he’s finding it hard being without his best mate and flat mate etc. 

May be way off the mark but add that into the injuries and stuff and on a personal level it’s probably been quite a difficult season for him so far. 

[And Its Smith]

14 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

Why ?

I wouldn't.

Because I’m conservative by nature!  

[fisherrich]

2 hours ago, JoeAman08 said:

Idk. Can buy peaks and troughs but he has had no peak for almost a season. Of course manager change, Scott leaving and a few injuries. I just haven’t seen it from him though for near a year now. More worrying is the body language and I am not certain he is working as hard out of possession as he did before. Maybe worried about his hamstrings? Something feels off with him. Not writing him off by any means but we were relying on him this season imo and he hasn’t been close to the levels needed. 

IMO Tommy needs a Scott to “feed” him, unfortunately Scott calibre midfielders are rare.
Up front on his own is not Tommy’s forte.

[Red Ferret]

I don't know why Manning persists with playing him up top by himself. Its so frustrating for everyone, including Tommy

If you are going to play a lone striker then Cornick is better suited to that role imo 

[LondonBristolian]

I honestly don’t think we’ll get an offer that makes financial sense. He has 18 months on his contract but we will get compensation either way. 

I don’t reckon a fee we were offered now would reflect his potential value in 6 months or a years’ time if he is in-form, and it might not even be more than the compensation we’d get if he stayed to the end of his contract but scored 15-20 goals next season.

Manning needs to get Conway back on form but there is plenty of time before his contract expired and I see no reason to sell an out of form high potential player at a point when his form will likely lower the fee.

[MarcusX]

2 hours ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

As per the above, I have been thoroughly disappointed with Tommy this season. I don’t think the lone role suits him at all, offers very little threat and struggles up against physical CB. With just 18 months to go I would be tempted to sell this month, I don’t think we will get more than £5M to be honest, but we need a better all round striker to progress. A shame as I really hoped this would be his season but lacks that quality required. 

This doesn't even make sense, who's paying £5m for him if he's as bad as you suggest?

I don't think his poor form is his fault, as you say he doesn't suit the lone role.

I can't believe we havent seen him again in behind in the 10 after his cameo at Rotherham. Has to be worth a try, with Wells up top and Knight in a deeper "number 8" role which also suits him better.

[cidercity1987]

4 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

This doesn't even make sense, who's paying £5m for him if he's as bad as you suggest?

I don't think his poor form is his fault, as you say he doesn't suit the lone role.

I can't believe we havent seen him again in behind in the 10 after his cameo at Rotherham. Has to be worth a try, with Wells up top and Knight in a deeper "number 8" role which also suits him better.

Someone in the management needs to check the second half of Lincoln H last season. Yes I know only L1 opposition, however Conway came on behind the striker and he was amazing. Best player on the pitch by a mile, much better than Scott even in that second half.

I dream of that for Tommy C

[ChubStixx]

Not sure any of our players are worth £5m, are they?

[Sheltons Army]

Think it will be a massive mistake if we sell him or let him disappear OOC

Whatever your views on him , he’s shown he’s very capable at this level (Albeit Something not quite right with him atm - off field ?)

We could spend waste millions and millions trying to replace him as we’ve proved many times over the years

[TheReds]

2 hours ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

As per the above, I have been thoroughly disappointed with Tommy this season. I don’t think the lone role suits him at all, offers very little threat and struggles up against physical CB. With just 18 months to go I would be tempted to sell this month, I don’t think we will get more than £5M to be honest, but we need a better all round striker to progress. A shame as I really hoped this would be his season but lacks that quality required. 

Who is this better all round striker that is available for what we would get for Conway?

[Shauntaylor85]

20 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

This doesn't even make sense, who's paying £5m for him if he's as bad as you suggest?

I don't think his poor form is his fault, as you say he doesn't suit the lone role.

I can't believe we havent seen him again in behind in the 10 after his cameo at Rotherham. Has to be worth a try, with Wells up top and Knight in a deeper "number 8" role which also suits him better.

A lot of big clubs were watching him last season, not unreasonable for a PL club to take a punt, club won’t feel for peanuts but £5M to a PL club is a packet of peanuts. 

[Shauntaylor85]

1 minute ago, TheReds said:

Who is this better all round striker that is available for what we would get for Conway?

We need to use the European market, plenty of good players in the French, Portuguese leagues for example, we did well in that market in the past, certainly now work permit restrictions have been relaxed. I also have a feeling Al Hamadi could turn into a decent champ player, has all the attributes. One player I would love to put a cheeky offer in is Koji Miyoshi at Birmingham, out of favour but I thought was best player I’ve seen down AG this season. Just what we need for creativity. 

[Red-Robbo]

30 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

I honestly don’t think we’ll get an offer that makes financial sense. He has 18 months on his contract but we will get compensation either way. 

I don’t reckon a fee we were offered now would reflect his potential value in 6 months or a years’ time if he is in-form, and it might not even be more than the compensation we’d get if he stayed to the end of his contract but scored 15-20 goals next season.

Manning needs to get Conway back on form but there is plenty of time before his contract expired and I see no reason to sell an out of form high potential player at a point when his form will likely lower the fee.

This is it. He wouldn't get an offer atm commensurate to his value to us now or in seasons to come.

I agree with those that point out TC is not a lone striker and needs a strike partner to get more chances on goal.

We need to remember he's not in the 25-28 age range that is normally a forwards' golden years.  He has lots of development to do. If he's happy here, he may be a much more valuable asset in the future. 

[Mr Popodopolous]

One thing to say Conway and Wells e.g. and on paper perhaps that can alleviate one issue.

Who then drops out though, how does the shape change to necessitate this, do we ditch Sykes and Mehmeti/Bell?

Do we revert back to a back 3?

Do we even go something akin to 4-4-2 with wingers thereby weakening ourselves- and it will weaken us given how many these days play some variation of 4-3-3/4-2-3-1..

Back to say 3-5-2, 3-4-3 would be yet another volte face.

[Edgy Red]

1 hour ago, Roger Red Hat said:

If I was Tommy I wouldn't! I'd look for a team/coach that would play me in a system that more suits my game.

It doesn't really work like that tho... a manager isn't going to change his philosophy/formation to suit one player.

I'm sure people will correct me but i can't name many sides in the top 2 divisions that play 2 central strikers, so Tommy needs to adapt his game, not the other way round.

FWIW i think he's a decent finisher but his all round game is lacking at present, and its a position we need to improve in my opinion.

[Scrumpys Dietary Advisor..]

I still have faith in Tommy, a lot in fact. Maybe we should remember this from last year...

https://www.bristolworld.com/sport/football/bristol-city/whisper-it-quietly-bristol-city-star-likened-to-alan-shearer-amid-impressive-start-to-season-3851403

Probably, things like this are a distraction but as some have astutely pointed out, Tommy is missing his wing man badly, both on and probably off the pitch. I don't know how well they get on but I am hoping that Ayman can fill this role,  quality player

A few of the comments on this post are beginning to go down the Antoine route. He was written off and got dogs abuse for ages but it was always clear to me that he had a) the ability and b) the mean streak and desire required to make it up the ladder, something I was also laughed at about but, he got what he wanted

Tommy has it in him too, he just has to seize the day. The cameo performance against Rotherham showed us what he can do when he focuses his mind on the job

WE just need more of that single mindedness from Tommy which we know he has, and for us to get behind him, and he will be back in the news again in no time

Edited January 2 by Scrumpys Dietary Advisor..

[E.G.Red]

1 hour ago, Red Ferret said:

I don't know why Manning persists with playing him up top by himself. Its so frustrating for everyone, including Tommy

If you are going to play a lone striker then Cornick is better suited to that role imo 

I'm always disappointed that when he puts Nahki on, Liam takes Tommy off. 

[Andy082005]

3 hours ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

As per the above, I have been thoroughly disappointed with Tommy this season. I don’t think the lone role suits him at all, offers very little threat and struggles up against physical CB. With just 18 months to go I would be tempted to sell this month, I don’t think we will get more than £5M to be honest, but we need a better all round striker to progress. A shame as I really hoped this would be his season but lacks that quality required. 

Absolutely we should cash in. At a time when we have virtually no striking options - let’s cash in on the best one we have 

or ….….….…

….our head coach could actually start building his team around his better players and playing to their strengths. 
 

Why Lee Johnson pt2 keeps playing his as a lone striker is beyond me. 

 

[Roger Red Hat]

19 minutes ago, Edgy Red said:

It doesn't really work like that tho... a manager isn't going to change his philosophy/formation to suit one player.

I'm sure people will correct me but i can't name many sides in the top 2 divisions that play 2 central strikers, so Tommy needs to adapt his game, not the other way round.

FWIW i think he's a decent finisher but his all round game is lacking at present, and its a position we need to improve in my opinion.

As has been suggested earlier, why not play him behind and close to Wells (or whoever), maybe in a 4411, for instance. If we aren't going to get the best out of him, for his own sake he needs to hold off on signing a new deal and look elsewhere.

[johnheadbcfc]

1 hour ago, Red Ferret said:

I don't know why Manning persists with playing him up top by himself. Its so frustrating for everyone, including Tommy

If you are going to play a lone striker then Cornick is better suited to that role imo 

Alright saying it now, this place would have a meltdown if cornick started 

[Numero Uno]

1 hour ago, Andy082005 said:

Absolutely we should cash in. At a time when we have virtually no striking options - let’s cash in on the best one we have 

or ….….….…

….our head coach could actually start building his team around his better players and playing to their strengths. 
 

Why Lee Johnson pt2 keeps playing his as a lone striker is beyond me. 

 

The fact he seems to have had a contract offer on the table for a while and hasn't signed does lead you to an obvious conclusion. He's looked at his best mate in football raking it in elsewhere, he's probably a very frustrated young man playing in a system that isn't helping him score goals and does not appear to be in any rush to commit three years to us. Look at it from his point of view, why would you? What would you advise your own son in the same situation? His agent would have a good idea if there is any interest and if there wasn't/isn't you can guarantee the ink would have dried on the contract a long time ago. If that is the case and he ultimately says "I won't sign thanks" then we have no choice but to cash in.

[Numero Uno]

3 hours ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

Our Tech Director before his exile (first time around) from X, suggested that he was worth more than £20M……..

Can't work out whether that is trying to build up the value of an asset for future sales negotiations or just another impulsive load of guff...............to get £20m for Conway he will need to go on some run of goals.

[shelts]

I like Tommy . He’s young and facing his toughest season what with injuries, lack  of form , best mate going and a new manager playing him up top on his own . 
This might toughen him up both mentally and physically. Lot of talent . 

[xerox6060]

Biggest surprise of the season to me how ineffective (bar Roth) he's been, thought he bulked out a bit last year and though not ideal as the loan striker role, thought he'd give it a fair go but alas its not worked out at all.

Still a promising player in there,  hopefully LM will eventually get the best out of him.

[Simon bristol]

5 hours ago, maxjak said:

There is no doubt in my mind that he is quality......but he is young, being played in the wrong role and gets no service.  In the the correct tactical set up he would thrive, I am very Disappointed in LM for persisting with the lone striker formation?  There is nothing wrong with the tactics, it is just that Tommy is just not suited to it?  I do appreciate that LM has little choice, to an extent, so it is now up to him to find a solution during the window, and show us just how tactically aware he is?  We have failed to score against Rooney's (GONE!) Birmingham and a very average Millwall side.............Tommy should NOT  , and i am certain will NOT be sold, but it is now up to our new manager to create a team that plays to TC's strengths.

Im not sure we are playing to anyones strengths, sam bell is having a significant drop off too,,, fast paced counter attacks with a high quality playmaker made us dangerous last season, knocking the ball around at the back and taking no risks doesnt suit our lot

[Sir Geoff]

4 hours ago, ChubStixx said:

Not sure any of our players are worth £5m, are they?

The whole squad was only valued at £15 million in the last accounts, so unlikely.

[Davefevs]

7 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

The whole squad was only valued at £15 million in the last accounts, so unlikely.

That’s an accounting valuation based on the cost of acquiring players, ie transfer fees paid.

Academy players or players signed on free transfers hold £0 value in the “books”.  That £15m includes the £0 valued Alex Scott

It was £48m at 31st May 2020….after the splurge in the summer of 2019, which took until this summer to recover from.

Edited January 2 by Davefevs

[Sir Geoff]

3 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

One thing to say Conway and Wells e.g. and on paper perhaps that can alleviate one issue.

Who then drops out though, how does the shape change to necessitate this, do we ditch Sykes and Mehmeti/Bell?

Do we revert back to a back 3?

Do we even go something akin to 4-4-2 with wingers thereby weakening ourselves- and it will weaken us given how many these days play some variation of 4-3-3/4-2-3-1..

Back to say 3-5-2, 3-4-3 would be yet another volte face.

This for me but with only one winger (Sykes). I would give Pring and Sykes licence to use the space ahead of them on their respective wing, but with the proviso that only one goes forward at a time, so a sort of pivot. If Pring goes forward I would expect the left sided midfielder to sit in and cover. Midfield three would then be 3 from 4 (Knight, TGH, Williams, James). When we lose possession up field Sykes drops in and the midfield 3 become 4.

[Sir Geoff]

3 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

That’s an accounting valuation based on the cost of acquiring players, ie transfer fees paid.

Academy players or players signed on free transfers hold £0 value in the “books”.  That £15m includes the £0 valued Alex Scott

It was £48m at 31st May 2020….after the splurge in the summer of 2019, which took until this summer to recover from.

So less than £15m  (due to amortisation)?  Was thinking squad valuation would be an important element, if a sale (of the club) happened.

[RollsRoyce]

Based on Semenyo and Scott, Conway entering the last 18 months of his contract will be sold. Who to is a different matter, as he is hardly going to shine as a lone striker, it does not suit him. However, he is well known amongst other clubs, so someone might try for a bargain. If he gets to the end of his contract, it is a compensation situation. With our current lack of options, you would think he will move in the summer, but could we turn down £2/3M in January, as an example? He will not command a huge fee with the way we/he/team are playing right now. 

Purely opinion, zero factual evidence to back it up, but  I cannot see Conway signing a new contract with BCFC. He will get a better deal elsewhere and has shown enough potential that he should prove attractive to a PP club at worst or a relatively low-cost project for a Prem side. 

[Ivorguy]

Yes, sale.  Before his profile drops

[Davefevs]

9 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

So less than £15m  (due to amortisation)?  Was thinking squad valuation would be an important element, if a sale (of the club) happened.

Correct, less amortisation the squad value is now £4.9m (at 30th June).

From a sale point of view, you’d be looking at a “proper” squad valuation, rather than the accounting one, although in some circumstances you might have a pile of crap over-valued in the books

[Numero Uno]

1 hour ago, Ivorguy said:

Yes, sale.  Before his profile drops

........then he goes somewhere else and starts scoring for fun. I should imagine the forum would take a very pragmatic view of that. Players do lose form, have second season syndrome etc. He's got the ability to make people look very daft before the end of the season. If he refuses to sign a new contract within a prescribed time that is a completely different matter.

[Grey Fox]

9 hours ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

As per the above, I have been thoroughly disappointed with Tommy this season. I don’t think the lone role suits him at all, offers very little threat and struggles up against physical CB. With just 18 months to go I would be tempted to sell this month, I don’t think we will get more than £5M to be honest, but we need a better all round striker to progress. A shame as I really hoped this would be his season but lacks that quality required. 

FFS, no

[Wrongagain]

Let’s face it, it matters not who is up front - we have a midfield incapable of creating enough chances for any striker to shine - best chance they get of scoring is when the forwards make their own luck!

look back at the last couple of seasons, there was better service to whoever was up front and the goals came - compare that to the tactics we use now!

65 years a fan, seen top flight once and I will not see it  happen again until we manage to play like a team with some pride in the shirt - AND with the will not coached out of them!

[McNasty Filth]

In terms of potential Tommy is one of the best players I've seen at the club since first setting foot on hallowed ground in 83 after Andy Cole and Alex Scott. All we need to do is provide him with service, ain't rocket science.

Believe me, this guy will go on to big things with club and country, you heard it here first, read it and keep!  

Edited January 2 by McNasty Filth

[Andy082005]

Just wanted to bump this thread to the top as even though it’s only the 6th January - I believe it should be contender for most ridiculous post of the year.

….and that’s with me posting on here to!

Edited January 7 by Andy082005

[Davefevs]

4 minutes ago, Andy082005 said:

Just wanted to bump this thread to the top as even though it’s only the 6th January - I believe it should be contender for most ridiculous post of the year.

….and that’s with me posting on here to!

I refused to contribute - other than some accountancy info!

[stortfordred]

2 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I refused to contribute - other than some accountancy info!

Always knew it was your way or the Conway!