Henry Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 A bit Barton esque that interview! I can’t see Troy Deeney will last very long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted January 13 Admin Share Posted January 13 He's a car crash waiting to happen Like having Duncan Ferguson in charge wasn't a big enough warning He actually sounds like he's drunk in parts of the interview 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Truly remarkable he was ever appointed in the first place. Since they lost Rob Edwards to Watford Vince has veered all over the place appointing loads of odd choices as head coach. They’re going back to non league & it won’t be easy for them to return, nowhere near the fan base of Yeovil. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 7 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Truly remarkable he was ever appointed in the first place. Since they lost Rob Edwards to Watford Vince has veered all over the place appointing loads of odd choices as head coach. They’re going back to non league & it won’t be easy for them to return, nowhere near the fan base of Yeovil. You could at least understand Burchnall, but yeah after that its been a mess 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 As someone who has watched FGR about a dozen times this season, I can categorically state that Deeney is correct in every single thing he has said in that interview. Should he be saying it publically, mmmmm; maybe not. But I’ll tell you one thing - he’s bloody right and it’s refreshing to hear. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Troy Deeney is a clown. Some of the rubbish he spouts on podcasts is comical. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 46 minutes ago, Harry said: As someone who has watched FGR about a dozen times this season, I can categorically state that Deeney is correct in every single thing he has said in that interview. Should he be saying it publically, mmmmm; maybe not. But I’ll tell you one thing - he’s bloody right and it’s refreshing to hear. 7 minutes ago, Jose said: Troy Deeney is a clown. Some of the rubbish he spouts on podcasts is comical. He does like to be honest but maybe too much and don’t think Troy quite knows how much he is ranting when getting going ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Bizarre appointment. Based purely on the name it feels. Which I’m not certain he can spell. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 57 minutes ago, Jose said: Troy Deeney is a clown. Some of the rubbish he spouts on podcasts is comical. And yet I pretty much believe everything he's said in that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgrsimon Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Deeney may well be right but he seems to forget that, for almost 6 months, he's had a senior role on and off the pitch and I'm told his attitude on the pitch in that time was one of the worst. He scored I think 4 goals in total but 3 of those were in the same game which they lost. It's nothing but a circus under Dale Vince which is why I've had nothing to do with the club for many years now. The club became everything I hate about football. Ironically the least sustainable (financially) football club in the Football League. Top 5 or so budget in L2 on gates of 1500. Vince will still be happy though, lots more publicity in the national and probably international media today and tomorrow. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) Refreshingly honest from Deeney. Like a fool I paid £70 odd quid to watch FGR against Wimbledon recently in the Carol Embrey suite. Just for old times sake, as it's what I used to regularly do when it was free in the non league days. Didn't eat the food...it was dead in there. With players kids running around like lunatics annoying everyone. Sat and watched behind glass and lost the will to live....so so boring. Left early. Won't be doing that again any time soon. Edited January 14 by spudski 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 He appeared on a recent episode of Celebrity Mastermind (I wasn't aware he is/was a 'celebrity') and scored no points in his specialist subject round! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 40 minutes ago, spudski said: Refreshingly honest from Deeney. Like a fool I paid £70 odd quid to watch FGR against Wimbledon recently in the Carol Embrey suite. Just for old times sake, as it's what I used to regularly do when it was free in the non league days. Didn't eat the food...it was dead in there. With players kids running around like lunatics annoying everyone. Sat and watched behind glass and lost the will to live....so so boring. Left early. Won't be doing that again any time soon. Got to question what Dale Vance is thinking. The club is sinking at quite a rate. He’s letting FGR turn into a shambles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 11 hours ago, Harry said: As someone who has watched FGR about a dozen times this season, I can categorically state that Deeney is correct in every single thing he has said in that interview. Should he be saying it publically, mmmmm; maybe not. But I’ll tell you one thing - he’s bloody right and it’s refreshing to hear. 9 hours ago, Lrrr said: And yet I pretty much believe everything he's said in that Thing is though, does this work? We all know of managers who have gone absolutely ballistic in the dressing room (GJ, Cotts) before coming out with a far more watered down version in public. Maybe he’s inherited a squad of wasters & losers but the trick is how you turn that around. He brought in 3 players last week so he’s being given the opportunity to change it. I’m not sure saying in public a player you picked (& who was in the Championship last season) like Dabo is basically rubbish, works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Pickle Rick said: Got to question what Dale Vance is thinking. The club is sinking at quite a rate. He’s letting FGR turn into a shambles. Wonder if he's lost interest a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Pickle Rick said: Got to question what Dale Vance is thinking. The club is sinking at quite a rate. He’s letting FGR turn into a shambles. I don't think he is thinking beyond his ' Green' ideas. FGR is his play thing and just gives him publicity to promote Green. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 2 hours ago, GrahamC said: Thing is though, does this work? We all know of managers who have gone absolutely ballistic in the dressing room (GJ, Cotts) before coming out with a far more watered down version in public. Maybe he’s inherited a squad of wasters & losers but the trick is how you turn that around. He brought in 3 players last week so he’s being given the opportunity to change it. I’m not sure saying in public a player you picked (& who was in the Championship last season) like Dabo is basically rubbish, works. Thing is he was part of the squad - was Deeney thinking like this when playing with them? They are probably all on the phone to their agents or even the owners as player power is very big these days. Might all be true but only usually one winner in a situation like this. Not that Deneey will care too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 4 hours ago, BanburyRed said: He appeared on a recent episode of Celebrity Mastermind (I wasn't aware he is/was a 'celebrity') and scored no points in his specialist subject round! Maybe he likes the passing game. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Yaga Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 From the outside it looks like Vince's decision making is poor by always backing managers with no experience, maybe it has worked for him in business like that but clearly it's a disaster here. For me their best move would be to sack Deeney and bring in someone experienced in the lower leagues like Cotterill if he was interested and hope he can save them. They look doomed which is a pity as I want them to stay in the FL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 You can tell he doesn’t give a **** about the club, the fans or players (probably feels above them all) & probably also doesn’t want to be a coach. All of his interviews stink of “you lot are just wasting my time”. How they’ve gone from Rob Edwards to him in 18 months takes some doing. But anything that means failure for Dale Vince, I’m all for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Lee Johnson will be there come the time they’re in the National League. Seems the type the owner would appointment and like 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 2 minutes ago, The Coach said: Lee Johnson will be there come the time they’re in the National League. Seems the type the owner would appointment and like That's not a bad shout at all, although I could see it earlier than that on a "rescue mission". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AG City Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Never understood the media love in and fascination with Troy Deeney - someone who was jailed for spending 30 seconds repeatedly kicking and stamping on a students head in 2013. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 18 minutes ago, Northern Red said: That's not a bad shout at all, although I could see it earlier than that on a "rescue mission". No chance...not with the players at his disposal. He'd try to play Barcelona type football with poor players incapable at that level. I'm not his biggest fan, but they need someone like Cotts in there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Says a lot really that currently, this thread about FG Rovers is higher up the board than the thread about Bristol Rovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT The Optimist Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Wow thanks for sharing to the poster….that interview made me laugh..made my afternoon… Never heard an interview like that from a manager on a public broadcast… He says ‘worse than watching frigging antiques road show…apologises to anyone who likes that’ Calling out particular players re attitude and behaviours, and saying about why not going to play them etc etc…Saying how he wants them to play and they ignore him..(to paraphrase) good stuff… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 2 hours ago, petehinton said: You can tell he doesn’t give a **** about the club, the fans or players (probably feels above them all) & probably also doesn’t want to be a coach. All of his interviews stink of “you lot are just wasting my time”. How they’ve gone from Rob Edwards to him in 18 months takes some doing. But anything that means failure for Dale Vince, I’m all for. What’s wrong with Vince ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Just now, TV Tom said: What’s wrong with Vince ? The bloke is a total weapon, who basically just made fun of our fans who were crammed into their away end with no view of the game in the CC game there a few seasons back after they clearly massively oversold the allocation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 42 minutes ago, petehinton said: The bloke is a total weapon, who basically just made fun of our fans who were crammed into their away end with no view of the game in the CC game there a few seasons back after they clearly massively oversold the allocation Stale Mince. Saw that on asschat made I laugh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 He might be right but that’s not what the squad needs going forward. Has a lot to say about anyone but himself considering his record with Watford managers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sheltons Army Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 4 minutes ago, Winterstoke toad said: Car crash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Just as an aside - not sure if many people realise but Forest Green’s training ground is actually here in Chippenham. Quite a long way from Nailsworth! It’s part of a public facility - my son plays up there a lot, often sees the players and was thrilled to meet Matty Taylor recently, as well as Deeney. They’re always friendly so based on that and nothing else I hope they stay up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 19 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: Just as an aside - not sure if many people realise but Forest Green’s training ground is actually here in Chippenham. Quite a long way from Nailsworth! It’s part of a public facility - my son plays up there a lot, often sees the players and was thrilled to meet Matty Taylor recently, as well as Deeney. They’re always friendly so based on that and nothing else I hope they stay up! Swindon train up at Calne nowadays too don't they? Literally less than 5 miles away. If so, bit strange to have two teams train that close together yet be about 25 miles apart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgrsimon Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Winterstoke toad said: Seems pretty clear that Dabo's head has gone in one way or another. He was one missed penalty (his own) away from the Premier League last season but 4 months later he's ended up at the bottom of L2 playing in front of <2000. That's got to have an impact on even the most resilient of mindsets. Probably why no-one else picked him up when Cov let him go. He seemed to be fairly well regarded by the Cov supporters last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterstoke toad Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 14 minutes ago, fgrsimon said: Seems pretty clear that Dabo's head has gone in one way or another. He was one missed penalty (his own) away from the Premier League last season but 4 months later he's ended up at the bottom of L2 playing in front of <2000. That's got to have an impact on even the most resilient of mindsets. Probably why no-one else picked him up when Cov let him go. He seemed to be fairly well regarded by the Cov supporters last season. During the play off finals the commentators kept mentioning he was gonna be out of contract and I remember thinking I really hope we go for him as he was a solid top 10 rb/rwb . When he signed for fgr I was shocked , what a fall from grace so quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 7 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said: Just as an aside - not sure if many people realise but Forest Green’s training ground is actually here in Chippenham. Quite a long way from Nailsworth! It’s part of a public facility - my son plays up there a lot, often sees the players and was thrilled to meet Matty Taylor recently, as well as Deeney. They’re always friendly so based on that and nothing else I hope they stay up! Heard the same but thought that cannot be true. Up Stanley Park? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claverham_Red Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Just wondering about their new stadium which seems to be taking forever? https://www.punchline-gloucester.com/articles/aanews/forest-green-rovers-latest-on-eco-park-planning-bid Can't imagine if they ever will be in a position to increase the 5k capacity. Steve Cotterill to FGR would be a good move, but they are a sinking ship at the moment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, The Coach said: Heard the same but thought that cannot be true. Up Stanley Park? Yes, Stanley Park. Absolutely fantastic facility! Beautiful pitches even during the winter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj77 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 On 13/01/2024 at 22:40, Jose said: Troy Deeney is a clown. Some of the rubbish he spouts on podcasts is comical. I really like the one he does with Jermaine Defoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Interesting article here: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/01/15/troy-deeney-forest-green-rovers-rescue-non-league/ @Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 I did smile and roll my eyes at part of that article when Troy was speaking with his analyst. Quote... The goal is an example of the kind of decisive counter-attack he wants. “AWTB?” Deeney asks about an abbreviation Sparks uses. “After Winning The Ball,” comes the reply. “I need to learn those,” Deeney says, adding: “I only need five minutes max to reinforce the message. I will make sure it is punchy.” Why the need to abbreviate a sentence, that when speaking, takes as long to say out loud as the actual words Fine in print...but...when spoken!!! Seems football players and managers now have to deal with the footballing equivalent of corporate talk on a daily basis when dealing with coaches and analyst's. A whole new language to learn as well on the pitch details. Like I said...fine when in print, but when speaking! Anyone else deal with this sort of nonsense in their daily lives in the work place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 3 hours ago, Claverham_Red said: Just wondering about their new stadium which seems to be taking forever? https://www.punchline-gloucester.com/articles/aanews/forest-green-rovers-latest-on-eco-park-planning-bid Can't imagine if they ever will be in a position to increase the 5k capacity. Steve Cotterill to FGR would be a good move, but they are a sinking ship at the moment! The figures just don’t add up. £100m for the stadium and training facilities for a team the has crowds under 2,000. The proposed hospitality facilities (bars, restaurants, boxes) of 1,750 seems to be OTT for a club like Forest Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 The chairman is guilty of inexperience, and indiscretion in his manager pick's, sounds like his salad days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Just discussed Deeney behaviour of throwing his full back under the bus. Martin O’Neill was excellent and put it down to Deeney being an inexperienced manager who made a stupid mistake. Deeney has since apologised to the player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Robbored said: Just discussed Deeney behaviour of throwing his full back under the bus. Martin O’Neill was excellent and put it down to Deeney being an inexperienced manager who made a stupid mistake. Deeney has since apologised to the player. You were chatting with Martin O’Neill?? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 37 minutes ago, Leveller said: You were chatting with Martin O’Neill?? I omitted to say it was on TalkSport!……. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Robbored said: I omitted to say it was on TalkSport!……. You were on Talksport?? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 3 hours ago, Robbored said: Just discussed Deeney behaviour of throwing his full back under the bus. Martin O’Neill was excellent and put it down to Deeney being an inexperienced manager who made a stupid mistake. Deeney has since apologised to the player. And players don’t take too kindly to a public telling off these days as Troy probably didn’t himself a few times ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 9 minutes ago, Markthehorn said: And players don’t take too kindly to a public telling off these days as Troy probably didn’t himself a few times ! That was a point that Martin O’Neill made - something like “how would he like it?” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 4 hours ago, Robbored said: Just discussed Deeney behaviour of throwing his full back under the bus. Martin O’Neill was excellent and put it down to Deeney being an inexperienced manager who made a stupid mistake. Deeney has since apologised to the player. It's an interesting debate. Football is a business, yet it's a sport and entertainment. Reliant on fans. Reliant on their money and support. It's really unlike an other business. It's almost pantomime in many ways. Especially with the fans. Perhaps there should be a change in direction when it comes to sharing feelings regarding players performances. Just because they haven't in the past, it doesn't mean it's the right approach in this instance. Players imo, get wayyyy too much protection...yet managers very little. Perhaps it needs to change, and players are made more accountable to the public. Managers are slated constantly. Yet players get far less imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 5 minutes ago, spudski said: It's an interesting debate. Football is a business, yet it's a sport and entertainment. Reliant on fans. Reliant on their money and support. It's really unlike an other business. It's almost pantomime in many ways. Especially with the fans. Perhaps there should be a change in direction when it comes to sharing feelings regarding players performances. Just because they haven't in the past, it doesn't mean it's the right approach in this instance. Players imo, get wayyyy too much protection...yet managers very little. Perhaps it needs to change, and players are made more accountable to the public. Managers are slated constantly. Yet players get far less imo. You’re right Spudski. We fans and pundits think that a manager criticising a player in public is a no no. Now I’m not sure why that’s the case but you’re point is spot on. What’s wrong with a player being thrown under the bus after a poor performance by his manager? I get that it could destroy said player but could also have the opposite effect and he improves his performances in training - all down to a public kick up the ass - and impresses enough to win his place back. It could kick the other players up the ass as well - not wanting to be the next one thrown under the bus. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgrsimon Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 16 hours ago, pongo88 said: The figures just don’t add up. £100m for the stadium and training facilities for a team the has crowds under 2,000. The proposed hospitality facilities (bars, restaurants, boxes) of 1,750 seems to be OTT for a club like Forest Green It's not just that they don't add up, it is literally insane. Every home supporter could be accomodated in hospitality! The costs were from 4 or 5 years ago and that includes a green business park. Building costs have gone through the roof since then and a large percentage of the UK workforce now work from home. The supporter base is more from the other side of Stroud than west and if he thinks large numbers from Gloucester or Cheltenham or even N Bristol will suddenly start watching he is catastrophically mistaken. The attendances are actually even worse than it appears because almost every other Sat game is Kids Go Free which adds 200-300. Last I read Dale Vince was worth £100 million but a high percentage of that is tied up in Ecotricity. So it could quite easily bankrupt him. Would that stop him going ahead, who knows???? His ego and thirst for publicity overrides everything. Last time I walked down that way J13 M5, Autumn last last year, work was proceding on the new training pitches. Well there were a couple of diggers and a vaguely flat bit of ground but I don't think anything has moved on any further since then. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Rumours coming out Deeney has been sacked, after 6 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 12 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said: Rumours coming out Deeney has been sacked, after 6 games. Not surprising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 26 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said: Rumours coming out Deeney has been sacked, after 6 games. Confirmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Not surprising given him criticism of the playing squad and then publicly criticising a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Robbored said: Not surprising given him criticism of the playing squad and then publicly criticising a player. Short and not so sweet! After the outburst was always on the edge. Deeney probably got a few sacked himself if they upset the players here like he did . Still had time to get a 4 match touch line ban. Edited January 18 by Markthehorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted January 18 Admin Share Posted January 18 47 minutes ago, Robbored said: Not surprising given him criticism of the playing squad and then publicly criticising a player. Dale Vince was very unhappy about this but also the rest of his interview that day -link is earlier in the thread 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) Honestly think Dale Vince has totally lost the plot !!! Deeney’s interview sucked and was a mirror image of JB’s a couple of months ago but what is Vince playing at over the past 3 seasons ? He’s appointing these idiots ! Including caretaker coaches and once a new manager is appointed he will be the 11th person to coach / manage those players since 2021 ……….. and he wonders what the problem is ???? Edited January 18 by Baldyman 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 I'd have a go but it's my turn to be Watford manager next. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Dabo ? I don't get all the vitriol from Deeny. Sure he was not as good as Paul Jones, but he did write some cracking songs ! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 10 hours ago, Baldyman said: Honestly think Dale Vince has totally lost the plot !!! Deeney’s interview sucked and was a mirror image of JB’s a couple of months ago but what is Vince playing at over the past 3 seasons ? He’s appointing these idiots ! Including caretaker coaches and once a new manager is appointed he will be the 11th person to coach / manage those players since 2021 ……….. and he wonders what the problem is ???? I suspect that much like Steve Lansdown, he's desperate to give someone their big break in management and to see them succeed. Unfortunately, unless you get very lucky, there's rather more to it than simply giving someone a job and hoping for the best. At least Vince seems to have realised quickly that the job is too much for Deeney right now. He's made it clear that he'll spend what it takes to keep them up, so he'll need to appoint an experienced, proven name now to get them out of bother. Despite the Cheltenham connection, I'd be going all out to get Steve Cotterill if I were him. For their sake I hope it's not Lee Johnson. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 The chairman clearly isn't a football man, cotts would stabilise them in a few months, out of him and lj, both bound to be mentioned hes clearly mad enough to pick the latter, cotts is to good for that rabble in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 On 15/01/2024 at 17:08, Robbored said: You’re right Spudski. We fans and pundits think that a manager criticising a player in public is a no no. Now I’m not sure why that’s the case but you’re point is spot on. What’s wrong with a player being thrown under the bus after a poor performance by his manager? I get that it could destroy said player but could also have the opposite effect and he improves his performances in training - all down to a public kick up the ass - and impresses enough to win his place back. It could kick the other players up the ass as well - not wanting to be the next one thrown under the bus. Haven’t you answered your own question? What’s wrong with it is that it could destroy a player. And equally, yes, for another player it might be a kick up the ass that they respond to positively. So it’s surely about a) a manager knowing his players well, and b) doing whatever you do in the interest of the player and not the manager. As so often the case, there’s no single right or wrong, it’s not black and white. I know nothing at all about Dabo, but from the little on here, it feels like he might be the sort of player who struggles confidence-wise and maybe not someone who’ll respond positively. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Yaga Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 When it was the first Forest Green game after Horseman/Carey were sacked I saw them both watching our game. As it's Watford at the Gate tomorrow maybe Deeney can join them too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Odds on Lee Johnson? Seems like a perfect fit with Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted January 19 Admin Share Posted January 19 12 hours ago, Baldyman said: Honestly think Dale Vince has totally lost the plot !!! On 13/01/2024 at 21:16, phantom said: He's a car crash waiting to happen Like having Duncan Ferguson in charge wasn't a big enough warning I have to admit that it happened much earlier than I expected 1 hour ago, Oh Louie louie said: The chairman clearly isn't a football man, cotts would stabilise them in a few months, out of him and lj, both bound to be mentioned hes clearly mad enough to pick the latter, cotts is to good for that rabble in my opinion Some people though just want to work in the game no matter where etc Being local it could be an ideal fit if even just to the end of the season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I agree phant, but this Vincent bloke seems to plump for inexperienced bosses, don't think it would take too long for cotts to upset him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 59 minutes ago, italian dave said: Haven’t you answered your own question? What’s wrong with it is that it could destroy a player. And equally, yes, for another player it might be a kick up the ass that they respond to positively. So it’s surely about a) a manager knowing his players well, and b) doing whatever you do in the interest of the player and not the manager. As so often the case, there’s no single right or wrong, it’s not black and white. I know nothing at all about Dabo, but from the little on here, it feels like he might be the sort of player who struggles confidence-wise and maybe not someone who’ll respond positively. Don't be soft Dave, if a player can't take public criticism from his manager, then he needs to man up. It's only words...if he feels offended by the hurty words, man up and prove him wrong. This is what's wrong with this world...a few words of criticism and people melt. It's refreshing to hear it. Managers always get the flack. Players are so protected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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