Josh Stokes - Signed and Loaned Back

**Southport Red** · January 22

3 hours ago, Robbored said:

Well…….another promising Conference player, one of several from the lower leagues most, if not all of whom failed to reach the quality required for the Championship.

Let’s hope this lad can make the step up……….

That young Channel Islander who left a few months ago turned out OK

underhanded · January 22

Wahey. Glad to have mentioned this kid a few weeks back on the scouting thread.

As said on there, friends who are season ticket holders at Aldershot rate this kid massively highly.

Welcome Stokesy!

**Jerseybean** · January 22

2 minutes ago, underhanded said:

Wahey. Glad to have mentioned this kid a few weeks back on the scouting thread.

As said on there, friends who are season ticket holders at Aldershot rate this kid massively highly.

Welcome Stokesy!

Their forum has five pages on his move to us…https://www.shotsweb.site/shotsweb/viewtopic.php?t=56409&start=60

BLRed · January 22

Did we actually beat Brentford to one of their own money ball signings?! We are moving forward in the world…..

**Ska Junkie** · January 22

'Crap deal for City as Premier league clubs will be after him if he keeps up his performance levels for Aldershot'.

Not sure how that's bad for us? £20M+ please.

Edited January 22 by Ska Junkie

Engvall’s Splinter · January 22

42 minutes ago, RollsRoyce said:

Clearly filling the gaps we have within the current youth players group, recognising there is no one in the pipeline that is deemed able to meet the level. The sort of signing we should be making as a club, some will work, many won't, but this is where we have been more successful in the last years. We will all enjoy following his journey and development.

I thought though that our “top 6 squad” would be supplemented by the next batch of youngsters that were supposed to be “even better” ?

**Port Said Red** · January 22

42 minutes ago, RollsRoyce said:

Clearly filling the gaps we have within the current youth players group, recognising there is no one in the pipeline that is deemed able to meet the level. The sort of signing we should be making as a club, some will work, many won't, but this is where we have been more successful in the last years. We will all enjoy following his journey and development.

I think it's not so much we don't have anyone in the pipeline per se, more that we haven't produced a playmaker of note. They are the hardest to find.

**Robbored** · January 22

33 minutes ago, Southport Red said:

That young Channel Islander who left a few months ago turned out OK

Two successfully made the required standard and then moved on - Why? The academy may had played a part.

With a full pre season this lad may reach the necessary standard - if not then that’ll have been a risk that didn’t pay off. It wouldn’t be the first time that’s happened.

Betty Swallocks · January 22

5 minutes ago, Engvall’s Splinter said:

I thought though that our “top 6 squad” would be supplemented by the next batch of youngsters that were supposed to be “even better” ?

The next batch of highly rated young un’s are currently around the 17/18 age bracket.

The signings of Stokes/Murphy could well be to bridge the gap.

Severn Beach Pigeon · January 22

9 minutes ago, Engvall’s Splinter said:

I thought though that our “top 6 squad” would be supplemented by the next batch of youngsters that were supposed to be “even better” ?

That's not the contradiction you think it is with this signing.

It could be we have a great batch of young players coming through, however no academy, of any club will have a full starting 11 of wonderkids coming through at the same time, so there will be positions where we don't have a great talent coming through.

**Superjack** · January 22

On 18/01/2024 at 14:09, Bcfc24 said:

Always seems to just be jam tomorrow with this club

Forty years and I'm still waiting for the butter!

**downendcity** · January 22

On 18/01/2024 at 13:06, LondonBristolian said:

From interested to completed in 17 minutes - and people say we're not fast enough negotiators!

Mrs Downend says she wishes I could take that long to go from interested to completed!

Ziderarmy · January 22

5 hours ago, Robbored said:

Well……..where is he now?

Counting his millions and chuckling about the time you absolutely shit yourself in his office I’d imagine?

INCRED · January 22

On 18/01/2024 at 14:00, Bcfc24 said:

Exactly and if they both aren’t ready are we just stockpiling 10’s for the future

Maybe he’s not just a 10, Widdrington made it quite clear that he can play any position in that attacking front 3 or midfield 3 as he’s so intelligent with his perception and awareness of the game

**Adge's Cider Mug** · January 22

3 hours ago, Betty Swallocks said:

In his big shorts!

Quite right! Brilliant down at the Fleece many moons ago!

**petehinton** · January 22

5 hours ago, Harry said:

Good. This roof nonsense is a load of bollox anyway. Can’t wait for them to quit doing it.

Besides, he did these pics on Friday before the windy weather.

All the ‘roof’ videos have shown recently, is that the tops of all of the newly developed stands are absolutely filthy and need a good clean.

Natchfever · January 22

2 minutes ago, petehinton said:

All the ‘roof’ videos have shown recently, is that the tops of all of the newly developed stands are absolutely filthy and need a good clean.

You're missing the message Pete, that's "Edgy urban Bristol vibe" the club is targetting the North St hipsters as new fans

Merrick's Marvels · January 22

3 minutes ago, Natchfever said:

You're missing the message Pete, that's "Edgy urban Bristol vibe" the club is targetting the North St hipsters as new fans

I prefer that to carrot crunching wurzels, mind!

And it's more accurate.

Edited January 22 by Merrick's Marvels

**Lrrr** · January 22

2 hours ago, Robbored said:

With a full pre season this lad may reach the necessary standard - if not then that’ll have been a risk that didn’t pay off. It wouldn’t be the first time that’s happened.

So at 19 turning 20 he gets to have one pre season before gets written off…. Great to know

**CiderJar** · January 22

**LondonBristolian** · January 22

One thing I can’t help but wonder is whether Stokes and Murphy factor into the club’s thinking around the Twine loan. Possibly not and this may be very premature but we could have one or both attacking midfielders pushing for a place in the squad come the summer meaning that, if we could not agree the right price for Twine we still have options in the squad that enable us to maintain the same shape (even if they would obviously need settling in time and not bring what Twine could bring anywhere near as immediately)

Edited January 22 by LondonBristolian

**RedRoss** · January 22

18 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

One thing I can’t help but wonder is whether Stokes and Murphy factor into the club’s thinking around the Twine loan. Possibly not and this may be very premature but we could have one or both attacking midfielders pushing for a place in the squad come the summer meaning that, if we could not agree the right price for Twine we still have options in the squad that enable us to maintain the same shape (even if they would obviously need settling in time and not bring what Twine could bring anywhere near as immediately)

Murphy isn't a 10.

**Bristol Rob** · January 22

Sounds like the lad could have a future in the game, hopefully he is more Alex Scott than Johnny Smith.

DaveF · January 22

38 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Sounds like the lad could have a future in the game, hopefully he is more Alex Scott than Johnny Smith.

To be fair to Jonny Smith he's having a decent career and is a regular in league one.

**Ian M** · January 23

7 hours ago, Ska Junkie said:

'Crap deal for City as Premier league clubs will be after him if he keeps up his performance levels for Aldershot'.

Not sure how that's bad for us? £20M+ please.

I’m sure they meant from a fan’s perspective of watching him in our shirt. Growing our nest egg doesn’t interest me in the slightest.

fisherrich · January 23

On 18/01/2024 at 13:51, Bcfc24 said:

Mightily underwhelming if he goes back to Aldershot for the season though, still hope we bring in one more attacking player but can’t see it now

We all live in hope, but in reality this is a “punt” of a signing.
Bristol City need a proven Championship goal scorer. A young lad unproven from Aldershot is not that.

**Bob Turnip** · January 23

14 hours ago, Robbored said:

Two successfully made the required standard and then moved on - Why? The academy may had played a part.

With a full pre season this lad may reach the necessary standard - if not then that’ll have been a risk that didn’t pay off. It wouldn’t be the first time that’s happened.

So you don't think the success ratio is good enough? Can you name the others that didn't work out (as in lost money on)? By the negative spin of your post, are you saying we should stop buying in young promising players? You'd rather we spent more and only bought established players? They can not work as well as you know, and it's a lot more expensive when they don't work out.

It's a very low risk strategy. Not sure what your issue is.

**Port Said Red** · January 23

14 minutes ago, fisherrich said:

We all live in hope, but in reality this is a “punt” of a signing.
Bristol City need a proven Championship goal scorer. A young lad unproven from Aldershot is not that.

Which is acknowledged in the deal surely? If we thought he was ready we would have been reluctant to let him return there on loan.

I think the thing that makes this "punt" feel different is that this is a player that has been picked out by lots of others as someone who could make the step up, not some name that seems to have been picked out of a hat or on a whim.

**Robbored** · January 23

17 minutes ago, Bob Turnip said:

So you don't think the success ratio is good enough? Can you name the others that didn't work out (as in lost money on)? By the negative spin of your post, are you saying we should stop buying in young promising players? You'd rather we spent more and only bought established players? They can not work as well as you know, and it's a lot more expensive when they don't work out.

It's a very low risk strategy. Not sure what your issue is.

You’re right it’s low risk strategy and my point is that bringing in any young player is a gamble just as appointing a manager is a gamble.
The lad from Aldershot is another one who may or may not make it - however he’ll be joining City for preseason which gives the coaches time to assess his potential more fully.

Everyone knows that being a big fish in the small pond of the Conference means very little when said player becomes a small fish in a far bigger pond and few cope with it - let’s hope the lad proves to be a real find.

tin · January 23

1 hour ago, fisherrich said:

We all live in hope, but in reality this is a “punt” of a signing.
Bristol City need a proven Championship goal scorer. A young lad unproven from Aldershot is not that.

While I agree we need proven experience at this level, there’s no risk with this signing IMO given the low fee involved.

How many times did we pass up opportunities to get Watkins from Exeter or Bowen from Hereford for relative peanuts?

We need proven performers in addition to the likes of Stokes, not instead of those types.

**phantom** · January 23

12 hours ago, DaveF said:

To be fair to Jonny Smith he's having a decent career and is a regular in league one.

Not sure how that helps us though

DaveF · January 23

1 hour ago, phantom said:

Not sure how that helps us though

It doesn't, but highlighting him as a particular failure seems harsh.

mozo · January 23

22 hours ago, RedRoss said:

Murphy isn't a 10.

How dare you, he's gorgeous!

redkev · January 23

I know nothing of this stokes chappy but judging by the Aldershot fan’s opinion of him and Widdrington sounds like we have signed the new messi , no doubt some sort of injury awaits him now he’s signed

**RedRoss** · January 23

Watching the Aldershot game. He played the through ball for their goal.

https://streamable.com/3oyc72

**Kibs** · January 23

6 minutes ago, RedRoss said:

Watching the Aldershot game. He played the through ball for their goal.

https://streamable.com/3oyc72

Love the first touch and ability to play on the turn, something much of our midfield do miss when we get in those pockets!!

**RedRoss** · January 23

Bromley just equalised.

He's definitely got some attributes this lad. Very strong especially for 19, doesn't mind getting stuck in. Can roll his man with ease. Looking to create or shoot on goal where possible.

What I've liked more than anything is that he doesn't look fazed considering he's just signed with us. Just playing the game as he should with confidence.

**Kid in the Riot** · January 23

Scouting report incoming from @Harry

**Harry** · January 23

23 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Scouting report incoming from @Harry

Ha ha. No need, Red Ross has said it all above.
How was Taunton v Weymouth?

**Harry** · January 23

Although I would add, given the incredibly windy and wet conditions it was a very decent game.
Shots deserved to win it I thought.
Stokes was decent - I’ve seen him play better a couple of times. I was very impressed by the big number 9 Lorent Tolaj. Again, seen him a couple of times now and he’s definitely not gonna be playing non league next season.
Dejan Tetek in CM was also impressive for Shots.
Interstingly, Krauhaus played for Bromley (rumoured to be signing for Brentford). He had a nice left foot on him and was quite silky, but the best players on the night were Tolaj & Tetek for me.

Edited January 23 by Harry

**Kid in the Riot** · January 23

34 minutes ago, Harry said:

Although I would add, given the incredibly windy and wet conditions it was a very decent game.
Shots deserved to win it I thought.
Stokes was decent - I’ve seen him play better a couple of times. I was very impressed by the big number 9 Lorent Tolaj. Again, seen him a couple of times now and he’s definitely not gonna be playing non league next season.
Dejan Tetek in CM was also impressive for Shots.
Interstingly, Krauhaus played for Bromley (rumoured to be signing for Brentford). He had a nice left foot on him and was quite silky, but the best players on the night were Tolaj & Tetek for me.

Are you making these names up?

**The Original OTIB** · January 24

2 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Are you making these names up?

Krauhaus, German electro Goth band.

**Major Isewater** · January 24

On 22/01/2024 at 21:47, LondonBristolian said:

One thing I can’t help but wonder is whether Stokes and Murphy factor into the club’s thinking around the Twine loan. Possibly not and this may be very premature but we could have one or both attacking midfielders pushing for a place in the squad come the summer meaning that, if we could not agree the right price for Twine we still have options in the squad that enable us to maintain the same shape (even if they would obviously need settling in time and not bring what Twine could bring anywhere near as immediately)

Not forgetting Benarous who is back training with the first team. Here’s hoping he’s over his nightmare period.

Edited January 24 by Major Isewater

**View from the Dolman** · January 24

8 hours ago, Harry said:

Although I would add, given the incredibly windy and wet conditions it was a very decent game.
Shots deserved to win it I thought.
Stokes was decent - I’ve seen him play better a couple of times. I was very impressed by the big number 9 Lorent Tolaj. Again, seen him a couple of times now and he’s definitely not gonna be playing non league next season.
Dejan Tetek in CM was also impressive for Shots.
Interstingly, Krauhaus played for Bromley (rumoured to be signing for Brentford). He had a nice left foot on him and was quite silky, but the best players on the night were Tolaj & Tetek for me.

Krauhaus to Brentford has already been signed and sealed.

https://www.brentfordfc.com/en/news/article/brentford-b-team-ben-krauhaus-bromley-brentford-transfer

DaveF · January 24

12 hours ago, Harry said:

Although I would add, given the incredibly windy and wet conditions it was a very decent game.
Shots deserved to win it I thought.
Stokes was decent - I’ve seen him play better a couple of times. I was very impressed by the big number 9 Lorent Tolaj. Again, seen him a couple of times now and he’s definitely not gonna be playing non league next season.
Dejan Tetek in CM was also impressive for Shots.
Interstingly, Krauhaus played for Bromley (rumoured to be signing for Brentford). He had a nice left foot on him and was quite silky, but the best players on the night were Tolaj & Tetek for me.

Was quite surprised to see both of them playing non-league as they've made a few league appearances and are both youth internationals. Obviously best to get consistent game time and impress to get a perm move back into league football.

Edited January 24 by DaveF

**Harry** · January 24

2 minutes ago, DaveF said:

Was quite surprised to see both of them playing non-league as they've made a few league appearances and our both youth internationals. Obviously best to get consistent game time and impress to get a perm move back into league football.

Yep. I think Tetek has played for Serbia u21’s, so they’ll no doubt have some decent standard of players at that level.
I’ll be keeping my eye on these 2 (Tolaj & Tetek). Both can definitely play higher.

**RedRoss** · January 24

16 minutes ago, Harry said:

Yep. I think Tetek has played for Serbia u21’s, so they’ll no doubt have some decent standard of players at that level.
I’ll be keeping my eye on these 2 (Tolaj & Tetek). Both can definitely play higher.

Don't think it's a one off either. The commentators for the match were wax lyrical about Tolaj who's scored a decent amount this season, Tetek and Stokes and how they've been playing. Jamie Hedges who is Aldershot head of recruitment has done a brilliant job so far recruiting players that haven't quite made it with academies or the lower leagues. He went with Widdrington to Kings Lynn initially from the gas voluntarily helping with recruitment as a fan.

**Harry** · January 24

1 hour ago, RedRoss said:

Don't think it's a one off either. The commentators for the match were wax lyrical about Tolaj who's scored a decent amount this season, Tetek and Stokes and how they've been playing. Jamie Hedges who is Aldershot head of recruitment has done a brilliant job so far recruiting players that haven't quite made it with academies or the lower leagues. He went with Widdrington to Kings Lynn initially from the gas voluntarily helping with recruitment as a fan.

Indeee he did. After leaving the gas due to Barton humiliating him and no one else at the club willing to stand up for him.

**RedRoss** · January 24

1 hour ago, Harry said:

Indeee he did. After leaving the gas due to Barton humiliating him and no one else at the club willing to stand up for him.

Barton bullying a young fan trying to help his club. Not surprised.. He's a cretin. Shame on the hierarchy too by the sounds of it.

**Ian M** · January 24

11 hours ago, View from the Dolman said:

Krauhaus to Brentford has already been signed and sealed.

https://www.brentfordfc.com/en/news/article/brentford-b-team-ben-krauhaus-bromley-brentford-transfer

Wait, we supposedly beat Brentford to the signature of Stokes because we were willing to loan him back to Aldershot and Brentford weren't?

So Brentford switched their sights to Krauhaus, then loaned him back to Bromley

**Mr Popodopolous** · January 25

Article on Stokes. Came up when I was looking at Championship news.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/championship-bristol-stokes-aldershot-transfer-31967567

formerly known as ivan · February 3

Keeping an eye on Aldershot games to see how Stokes is getting on. According to the BBC website he is starting a CB today. Assume they must have numerous injuries in that area.

**bcfc01** · February 3

7 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Keeping an eye on Aldershot games to see how Stokes is getting on. According to the BBC website he is starting a CB today. Assume they must have numerous injuries in that area.

Playing in the 10 role.

From their forum;

"Stokes will be benched soon, doesn't seem the same last 4 games since Bristol City move."

**BCFCGav** · February 3

34 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

Playing in the 10 role.

From their forum;

"Stokes will be benched soon, doesn't seem the same last 4 games since Bristol City move."

Wouldn’t blame him for holding a little back, we need him healthy come summer ready for a big pre-season. Very excited to see him in red.

Sarumred · February 3

Coming back to train with first team on Mondays and Tuesdays when Aldershot don't have a mid week game. Similarly for SPH.

**RedRoss** · February 3

2 hours ago, bcfc01 said:

Playing in the 10 role.

From their forum;

"Stokes will be benched soon, doesn't seem the same last 4 games since Bristol City move."

He's got 2 assists in those 4 games so if that's disinterested performances that's encouraging.

**Lrrr** · February 3

3 hours ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Keeping an eye on Aldershot games to see how Stokes is getting on. According to the BBC website he is starting a CB today. Assume they must have numerous injuries in that area.

BBC just stick non league players in any position and normally just put 442 for shape. Shows the level of interest.

**Northern Red** · February 16

Aldershot v Altrincham is on TNT tomorrow at 5:30. Chance to see him in action.

**Jerseybean** · February 21

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-city-josh-stokes-talent-9115266?utm_source=bristol_live_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Bristol+Live+-+BCFC+Newsletter_newsletter&utm_content=&utm_term=&ruid=eda3a0ce-34ec-4a85-96cd-ae68727a6b80

**Lanterne Rouge** · February 24

Just scored for Aldershot at Southend

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