That Liverpool Tribute Then…

[BrizzleRed]

I was at Liverpool for that win and absolutely loved it.  That said,  I thought the ‘celebration’ yesterday was the most tinpot I can remember us ever looking.

Introducing a few of the old players at the side of the pitch would have been ok, but walking round the pitch seemed ott, but waving the purple and lime flags in Section 82 was totally cringeworthy to me.

That looked just the kind of embarassing thing the sags would do and I’d hoped and thought we were a lot better than that!

[2015]

9 hours ago, Curr Avon said:

I cannot for the life of me believe that when the club has the 'temerity' to celebrate its FA Cup giantkilling of Liverpool, at Anfield in 1994 its referred to as 'tinpot'. Unfortunately, our beloved club hasn't had much to shout about during the modern era, meaning these memories are special and should be given the respect they deserve. Some of you need to learn your City history, or better still, get a life.

It shows how very little this Club have achieved in the last 30 years and yes it does make us sound a bit tinpot celebrating a 3rd Round FA Cup win from 30 years ago.

Not doubting for one minute that at the time it was great. 

[Natchfever]

9 hours ago, Curr Avon said:

I cannot for the life of me believe that when the club has the 'temerity' to celebrate its FA Cup giantkilling of Liverpool, at Anfield in 1994 its referred to as 'tinpot'. Unfortunately, our beloved club hasn't had much to shout about during the modern era, meaning these memories are special and should be given the respect they deserve. Some of you need to learn your City history, or better still, get a life.

The fact that the vast majority of us DO know our City history means that we regarded that shitshow yesterday as tinpot.

Just because we are serial underachievers doesnt mean the club has to frantically search for anything to cling to.

Celebrating and "respecting" non events ? Perhaps you are the one who should get a life.

[W-S-M Seagull]

12 hours ago, Denbury Red said:

Its a shame with all these presentations that whoever is being presented to the crowd forgets Block A - C of the Dolman (or whatever numbers they are now) and the Atyeo end of the Lansdown - are these fans not worth parading in front of as much as those in the South Stand and today the South Stand end of the Lansdown.

Come on Bristol City - give enough time to parade the "guests" in front of all City fans - not just a few!

It boils my piss that the Club seem to think s82 is the entirety of our fanbase. 

Very rarely see anything other than s82 posted by the club. 

At the end of the game Manning and the players don't come over and clap the part of the ground I'm in. They make a beeline for s82 and then back to the dressing room pretty much. 

[Atyeo's lift]

52 minutes ago, aa_bcfc said:

I was there. That victory has to be the best away win in my 66 years following City. 

I was there too - had just moved to Yorkshire and was able to miss work and see the match. Happy memories of a great day.

[handsofclay]

47 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Spot on but the answer is one word Dziekanowski.

I actually saw a poll on X (Twitter) yesterday saying who would you like to help City to the playoffs this season Cole or Dziekanowski & the Polish waster had more votes..

This absolute myth that someone who had about 6 good games for us, was a passenger when we didn’t have the ball & left us for an obscure German second division club was a “great” is frankly hilarious.

Osman’s football was poor but as you point out, he had zero funds, getting rid of the bloke who stood around for 80 minutes of each game with his hands on his hips has cemented his reputation.

As to the person who thinks it was better under Pulis, who was given far more money one division down to produce what he did, eff me.

That was brilliantly put. I didn't mention Jacki because I feared being targeted as a Neanderthal for as you say he has been elevated to legend status amongst City fans. As soon as Osman dropped him he became the target of the boo boys and it seemed to become fashionable to blame City's struggles in the second tier and lack of entertainment value upon this decision. It wasn't, for as you say we lost plenty and stunk the place out with the mercurial Pole in our side. 

Yes, he was a fantastic player on his day and I am glad I seen him in a City shirt, but Osman chopped him at the right time and we were a stronger TEAM as a result. 

[Phileas Fogg]

It is really odd how this game is continually celebrated. Yeah, great win.. but it was ages ago.

We are told that we are a club with aspirations of competing with the likes of Liverpool, which makes it all the more smalltime. 

The mural is a good piece of artwork, but is a permanent reminder of our underachievement. All very odd.

Edited January 21 by Phileas Fogg

[Phileas Fogg]

1 hour ago, bearded_red said:

Wouldn’t expect anything less from the same club that on Tuesday night showed the goals from the game at the London Stadium and Downsy the clown said ‘to once again celebrate our 1-1 draw’. Celebrate!

No wonder we never achieve anything ever. A club absolutely over the moon with complete mediocrity.

Reminds me of Downsy’s debut where he proudly read out the mightily impressive 22,500 attendance at Ashton Gate to the bemusement of the fans from *checks notes* Newcastle United. 

Been a ridiculous hire from day one.

[Back of the Dolman]

1 minute ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Reminds me of Downsy’s debut where he proudly read out the mightily impressive 22,500 attendance at Ashton Gate to the bemusement of the fans from *checks notes* Newcastle United. 

Been a ridiculous hire from day one.

On the subject of Downsy was it just me who heard him call Jamie Knight-Lebel, Jason Knight-Lebel yesterday ?

can’t even get our own players names right

[Phileas Fogg]

37 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

It boils my piss that the Club seem to think s82 is the entirety of our fanbase. 

Very rarely see anything other than s82 posted by the club. 

At the end of the game Manning and the players don't come over and clap the part of the ground I'm in. They make a beeline for s82 and then back to the dressing room pretty much. 

Not sure about that re: club. They show a decent cross section on social media - but a group doing flag displays and singing in a packed area of the ground is obviously more impressive visually for pictures than supporters quietly sat down in the often less busy Lansdown stand.

Regarding the team and management, you could argue it shows which section they believe helps spur them on most during matches.

Edited January 21 by Phileas Fogg

[BrizzleRed]

10 hours ago, Curr Avon said:

I cannot for the life of me believe that when the club has the 'temerity' to celebrate its FA Cup giantkilling of Liverpool, at Anfield in 1994 its referred to as 'tinpot'. Unfortunately, our beloved club hasn't had much to shout about during the modern era, meaning these memories are special and should be given the respect they deserve. Some of you need to learn your City history, or better still, get a life.

I don’t know if the likes of Wimbledon actually do something like that to celebrate actually winning the FA Cup, which was a massive achievement for them.  

Can’t you actuaaly appreciate the tin-pottedness of us with that celebration, 30 years after beating a team just a division above us in the 3rd round of the Cup though??

[The Nest Egg]

A couple of my West Brom supporting mates sat with me in the Lansdown when we played them last. One of them pointed out the mural of the Man U win and said how tinpot that made us look.

All I could think was 'bloody hell mate, thank god we weren't in the South Stand as you would have roasted the sh*t out of the Liverpool mural!'

[Natchfever]

14 minutes ago, BrizzleRed said:

I don’t know if the likes of Wimbledon actually do something like that to celebrate actually winning the FA Cup, which was a massive achievement for them.  

Can’t you actuaaly appreciate the tin-pottedness of us with that celebration, 30 years after beating a team just a division above us in the 3rd round of the Cup though??

One division above, does that even constitute " giant killing"?

They were hardly Shankly or Klopp's Liverpool either were they.

[spudski]

12 hours ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

Russ had gorgeous hair, and still cuts a distinguished dash. Mrs Osman was a lovely thing too (when I last saw her), her hair was pretty impressive too

He's actually a really nice bloke. Played golf with him a few times. 

His missus was/ is an Interior designer from memory. 

Don't think he deserves the flack he gets from some, as explained further up the thread, his hands were tied in many ways.

[BrizzleRed]

Just now, Natchfever said:

One division above, does that even constitute " giant killing"?

They were hardly Shankly or Klopp's Liverpool either were they.

Absolutely right mate.  

Not wanting to detract from the occasion and result and it was a great performance by us, but as you say, that wasn’t one of the great Liverpool sides of old.  

The fact Souness was sacked after that result says they were very far from their best, so I do cringe at the constant reference to that game.  

On the other hand, beating Leeds away in their absolute prime was a way bigger achievement for me.

[shelts]

It was a great night tbf what I can remember of it !

Mini bus full and the whole day was a fairytale. 
I’ve forgiven Osman for his dreadful football but he kept us up and at the time was quite an achievement. 
As for Jacki his little cameo for us will be fondly remembered and touched so many . We had a bit of star quality. 
I’ve always liked to watch a luxury player but they don’t last for long do they ?

Amazing how he touched so many but didn’t rack up 50 games for us . 

[bcfc_fpa]

Thanks to all involved in celebrating our Liverpool heroes prior to the game yesterday - and special thanks to the fans for being in their seats earlier than usual and of course to Section 82 for that fantastic display (hi-res picture below). 

Here's some additional video highlights from the day:

 

Thanks again,

BCFC Former Players Association

[Silvio Dante]

Can I just ask why Tinnions son is front and centre here? Did he have a penalty shoot out with Junior Bent to attend, and what is the rationale (not denying it’s nice for him and Brian, but just looks exceptionally odd and a touch egotistical)

[Major Isewater]

6 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said:

It is really odd how this game is continually celebrated. Yeah, great win.. but it was ages ago.

We are told that we are a club with aspirations of competing with the likes of Liverpool, which makes it all the more smalltime. 

The mural is a good piece of artwork, but is a permanent reminder of our underachievement. All very odd.

Why don’t we celebrate all our wins over top clubs? 
We beat Arsenal in our first game back in the First division at their place- worth a celebration ? 
We beat Liverpool in the league - worth a celebration? 
Man Utd at Old Trafford - let’s have a Saint Kevin Mabbutt day. 
Yep , sad and tinpot. 
Let’s welcome back our old heroes for a bit of a wave and to rekindle memories but let’s wait until we have something really special to celebrate before blow the dust of our, rather short , roll of honour. 

[East Londoner]

Other than them going into towards section 82 and having tinnions son with them (no idea how that was relevant) it was no different to others events they’ve done since starting the former players such as the stars of the 60’s one 

I see it more as reconnecting with the past which is long overdue rather than celebrating a good result 30 years ago 

[Cowshed]

18 hours ago, ashton_fan said:

Russel Osman saved us from relegation when he took us over as player/manager following Denis Smith's sacking. The following season he signed Brian Tinnion who must have been one of the best value signings ever. We had that cup run and finished comfortably mid-table although at times the football wasn't that exciting, but the defence was pretty solid. At the end of the season we had new owners, some of our better players were sold and Osman wasn't given any funds to replace them and had to do with free transfers. Unsurprisingly the team then struggled and he was sacked, but people forget much of this and just remember some of the football as being a bit boring, I think he made the most of what he had available and deserved more credit, certainly many worse managers than him in the time I've been watching the team.

People forget Russell Osmans football frequently because so many ceased to attend. 

City's gates dropped to 7000 with Russell Osman in in charge. The away support collapsed to fourth division levels. At Portsmouth for a Saturday 3PM kick off the away support was in the low hundreds, half of who walked out in protest at half time with the score 0-0.

The reason? The stupefyingly boring football. 

[The Wild Bunch]

3 minutes ago, Cowshed said:

People forget Russell Osmans football frequently because so many ceased to attend. 

City's gates dropped to 7000 with Russell Osman in in charge. The away support collapsed to fourth division levels. At Portsmouth for a Saturday 3PM kick off the away support was in the low hundreds, half of who walked out in protest at half time with the score 0-0.

The reason? The stupefyingly boring football. 

We had some shocking crowds during that period.  I remember Scott Davidson coming in as Chairman and setting up a supporters database.  Crowds started to rise again towards the end of the 90’s.

[MarcusX]

19 hours ago, ralphindevon said:

If I remember rightly Liverpool were around, maybe a place or two lower than West Ham are now and we were about where we are now.

Does this mean there’ll be a mural from Tuesday night in the concourse soon?

This is the comparison I made in the match day thread.

This was a rather cringeworthy and embarrassing thing to “celebrate” IMO - especially just a couple of days after effectively repeating the same feat.

[Mendip City]

So we’ve planned and celebrated the 30 year anniversary of a third round win over the worst Liverpool team in generations…. But…. Still no “fitting tribute” to Terry Cooper, as promised at the time of his passing. Tinpot, clueless and classless are the hierarchy running “our” club. 

[Red white and red]

Sad, pathetic, amateur, Tin-pot…. So many words to describe this. Why do the hierarchy cling on to a good result 30 years ago?… reminisce when you win something decent. 

[Bristol Rob]

Is it possible that some of the players who represented us in that game didn't want to attend the reunion as Osman had, by a lot of accounts at the time, a somewhat dictatorial attitude to his management style subsequently; and players who worked with him in any capacity might not relish a chance for a pint.

[phantom]

1 hour ago, Bristol Rob said:

Is it possible that some of the players who represented us in that game didn't want to attend the reunion as Osman had, by a lot of accounts at the time, a somewhat dictatorial attitude to his management style subsequently; and players who worked with him in any capacity might not relish a chance for a pint.

I'd honestly say that has to be 2+2=5

It was a long time ago and retuning isn't really anything to do with Osman 

We know why Lewellyn was missing, who else wasn't there? 

[Bris Red]

Agree with many of the sentiments already in this thread, it's tinpot beyond belief. Really is embarrassing aswell when we are rubbing shoulders with many clubs at this level who have spent decades and decades in the topflight, many with major honours won in their historys and we celebrate this. As others have said Watford fans must have been wondering WTF was going on.

No suprises though, especially with the senior position Tinnion has within the club, another opportunity to blow his own trumpet it feels.

A tinpot organisation run by amateurs aren't we. The big shiny stadium with 22,000 plus in every other week and the nice new training ground really does paper over the cracks at the club..

Edited January 21 by Bris Red

[And Its Smith]

Tinnion could put a stop to this sort of thing but guess he loves the attention to much! 

[Street red]

2 hours ago, MarcusX said:

This is the comparison I made in the match day thread.

This was a rather cringeworthy and embarrassing thing to “celebrate” IMO - especially just a couple of days after effectively repeating the same feat.

In 30 years that's all we have to celebrate it doesn't say alot does it.

[Enclosure Old Timer]

Of far greater significance was the 2-1 win against Liverpool in May '77 which set us up for the epic at Coventry 3 days later.

[Silvio Dante]

1 hour ago, phantom said:

I'd honestly say that has to be 2+2=5

It was a long time ago and retuning isn't really anything to do with Osman 

We know why Lewellyn was missing, who else wasn't there? 

Outside of Osman (manager) we had Tinnion, Allison, Pennyfather, Shail and Welch there so five outfield.

I think missing were Llewellyn, Scott (was stated to be there IIRC), Rob Edwards (ditto), Stuart Munro, Dave Martin (probably in a fight somewhere), Liam Robinson (probably told where it was but missed the venue and ended up in Wickes) and Junior Bent (probably got there and the Ashton Road gates kept open and kept running)

So, outside of the senior man at the club and his son (for some reason), 4 of the remaining 11 turned up. Not exactly resounding.

[Slacker]

With the greatest respect does anyone else think.we are taking all of this way too seriously?We are a very mediocre club.No one else gives a rats arse about us and so what?.My self deprecating sense of humour actually finds the whole thing pretty hilarious.

[BS5_RED]

21 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

Scott Minto throw in!

I still hate Charlton. Cheating p****s.

[Natchfever]

1 hour ago, Slacker said:

With the greatest respect does anyone else think.we are taking all of this way too seriously?We are a very mediocre club.No one else gives a rats arse about us and so what?.My self deprecating sense of humour actually finds the whole thing pretty hilarious.

You find it funny which is fair enough, but the club think it means something to the fanbase which again demonstrates how out of touch they are.

[Slacker]

6 hours ago, Natchfever said:

You find it funny which is fair enough, but the club think it means something to the fanbase which again demonstrates how out of touch they are.

You are right up to a point. I agree it was pretty ridiculous and does just highlight years of underachievement.For some it was just an excuse to have a bit of fun.A largish part of the crowd chose to take the opportunity and put on a display with a bit of noise and colour which for some would have added to the atmosphere and enjoyment of their matchday.We all love the club even though we don't have too much in the way of achievements.The lack of trophies doesn’t lessen my love for the club and I don’t feel we need to validate ourselves to supporters of bigger, more successful clubs,of which there are many.I can see why people think it was over the top,I actually agree,but I still feel it was harmless enough. 

 

[COYR's]

Some people need to get a grip. Yeah, it's a bit cringe but so what? You ask any fan that's 40-50 years old and that game will be remembered as their favourite. I think it's great that the FPA are trying to bring back former players to the club and show them the respect they deserve. Some of these players are still working hard to support their families in different jobs as the money just wasn't around back then like it is now.

Also, why the sudden hatred for Tinnion? He has given a massive chunk of his life to City. He loves the club and prior to his current role spent more hours than anyone can imagine watching all the academy games and his dedication was second to none. Yeah, he may well have been promoted a bit above his station but that doesn't mean he deserves the vitriol some people are dishing out. Now people are targeting the fact his son was on the pitch. His son has special needs and they are literally inseparable, he would have absolutely loved that so who cares if he didn't play in the match?!

Edited January 22 by COYR's

[The Coach]

2 minutes ago, COYR's said:

Some people need to get a grip. Yeah, it's a bit cringe but so what? You ask any fan that's 40-50 years old and that game will be remembered as their favourite. I think it's great that the FPA are trying to bring back former players to the club and show them the respect they deserve. Some of these players are still working hard to support their families in different jobs as the money just wasn't around back then like it is now.

Also, why the sudden hatred for Tinnion? He has given a massive chunk of his life to City. He loves the club and prior to his current role spent more hours than anyone can imagine watching all the academy games and his dedication was second to none. Yeah, he may well have been promoted a bit above his station but that doesn't mean he deserves the vitriol some people are dishing out. Now people are targeting the fact his son was on the pitch. His son has special needs needs and they are literally inseparable, he would have absolutely loved that so who cares if he didn't play in the match?!

How many other clubs put on an event like we did Saturday for a cup round win 30 years ago against one of the worst Liverpool sides in its history? If it was a cup final, then I can understand it.

It’s not like we beat Bayern Munich with 2 goals in injury time to lift the Champions League.

There isn’t a hatred for Tinnion. But a big displeasure over his position he currently holds with the club without the relevant experience or knowledge to be in such a vital role. 
 

He’s also responsible for the removal of one of the top managers we’ve had who has helped steady this ship from relegation without any real funding.

He has somewhat tarnished his legacy at the club due to events in the last couple of seasons. There is nothing wrong with pointing that out.

[Natchfever]

14 minutes ago, COYR's said:

Some people need to get a grip. Yeah, it's a bit cringe but so what? You ask any fan that's 40-50 years old and that game will be remembered as their favourite. I think it's great that the FPA are trying to bring back former players to the club and show them the respect they deserve. Some of these players are still working hard to support their families in different jobs as the money just wasn't around back then like it is now.

Also, why the sudden hatred for Tinnion? He has given a massive chunk of his life to City. He loves the club and prior to his current role spent more hours than anyone can imagine watching all the academy games and his dedication was second to none. Yeah, he may well have been promoted a bit above his station but that doesn't mean he deserves the vitriol some people are dishing out. Now people are targeting the fact his son was on the pitch. His son has special needs needs and they are literally inseparable, he would have absolutely loved that so who cares if he didn't play in the match?!

Firstly, I dont think you can speak for anyone but yoursel about their favourite game in the past 30 years.

Id imagine beating Man U in such a manner to reach a major cup semi final would beat it hands down.

Secondly, you talk about Tinnion as if hes worked as a volunteer for Red Cross. "Given a massive chunk of his llife" With respect thats laughable. Hes been well paid throughout his spells here, and if hed been a better player or coach we wouldnt have seen him for dust.

He is part of the problem  being a key member of the clueless hierarchy  hence the vitriol.

Lastly, point taken about his son.

[The Dolman Pragmatist]

Osman may not have always got it right as a player or a manager, but I never saw him give less than 100% for us and that’s good enough for me.  I was lucky to have a long 1:1 conversation with him as manager (a few days before the start of the season when he gave Hewlett and Wyatt their debuts) and there was no doubting his commitment.  Ok, it didn’t work out but he managed that cup run, he deserved to be on the field on Saturday, and he deserved the fans’ applause.

[Red-Robbo]

43 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

Osman may not have always got it right as a player or a manager, but I never saw him give less than 100% for us and that’s good enough for me.  I was lucky to have a long 1:1 conversation with him as manager (a few days before the start of the season when he gave Hewlett and Wyatt their debuts) and there was no doubting his commitment.  Ok, it didn’t work out but he managed that cup run, he deserved to be on the field on Saturday, and he deserved the fans’ applause.

 

Let's face it - how many other managers have we had who played with Pele - and Michael Caine!

[Major Isewater]

He hasn’t ‘ given’ anything, he is lucky enough to have been paid by the club for a number of years for his work. 
Fair play to the bloke. 

[Swede]

In all honesty I think its good we have a former players association, its about time. I do wonder though whether in 30 years time we'll be flying in Ivan Testimitanu, Famara Dhiedhiou or Hörður Magnússon from Moldova, Iceland or Timbuctu for an impromptu cheer around the pitch. How on earth will they find or even locate them?

[Swede]

48 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Let's face it - how many other managers have we had who played with Pele - and Michael Caine!

Truth is he'd stick Pele on the bench and start Cainey up front.

[GrahamC]

16 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

Outside of Osman (manager) we had Tinnion, Allison, Pennyfather, Shail and Welch there so five outfield.

I think missing were Llewellyn, Scott (was stated to be there IIRC), Rob Edwards (ditto), Stuart Munro, Dave Martin (probably in a fight somewhere), Liam Robinson (probably told where it was but missed the venue and ended up in Wickes) and Junior Bent (probably got there and the Ashton Road gates kept open and kept running)

So, outside of the senior man at the club and his son (for some reason), 4 of the remaining 11 turned up. Not exactly resounding.

Stuart Munro (a very decent defender Osman picked up on a free) lives in Australia now so was never coming back for something as tinpot as this.

Pretty sure Rob Edwards still lives in Bristol (used to & might still have a job with one of Wales youth teams) so very odd that he didn’t make it.

Junior was back (alongside the great Wayne Allison) not that long ago so as well as Martin Scott, those 3 are the more baffling ones.

It looked pretty embarrassing when it was announced but by Saturday it resembled the Celebrity XI from the Porridge film, “I’ve just heard the Goodie can’t make it, but the ITV weatherman is still coming”..

[Silvio Dante]

59 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Let's face it - how many other managers have we had who played with Pele - and Michael Caine!

I’m sure I bring this up every time Escape To Victory is mentioned, but as I understand it John Warks accent was so bad they dubbed him in the final cut, and Stallone was such an arsehole that he genuinely fancied himself as a keeper so bet Pele - Pele! - that he couldn’t score six spot kicks past him. He got near to one and dislocated his finger.

And the overhead kick - one take.

[Silvio Dante]

2 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

 

Junior was back (alongside the great Wayne Allison) not that long ago so as well as Martin Scott, those 3 are the more baffling ones.

It looked pretty embarrassing when it was announced but by Saturday it resembled the Celebrity XI from the Porridge film, “I’ve just heard the Goodie can’t make it, but the ITV weatherman is still coming”..

Strong “Son of the guy who played Huggy Bear” vibes 

 

[Red-Robbo]

4 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

I’m sure I bring this up every time Escape To Victory is mentioned, but as I understand it John Warks accent was so bad they dubbed him in the final cut, and Stallone was such an arsehole that he genuinely fancied himself as a keeper so bet Pele - Pele! - that he couldn’t score six spot kicks past him. He got near to one and dislocated his finger.

And the overhead kick - one take.

 

Nice film facts.  I always thought of Osman as "Doug Clure" after seeing Escape To Victory. The name sort of fits.

I also liked the fact that Pele had to be a Trinidadian as Brazil wasn't in the war in 1942 (Ardilles' nationality was left a mystery).

Oh and the fact that the posh chairman of the parish council in Vicar of Dibley was the German head coach. 

[Bobby girl]

17 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

Outside of Osman (manager) we had Tinnion, Allison, Pennyfather, Shail and Welch there so five outfield.

I think missing were Llewellyn, Scott (was stated to be there IIRC), Rob Edwards (ditto), Stuart Munro, Dave Martin (probably in a fight somewhere), Liam Robinson (probably told where it was but missed the venue and ended up in Wickes) and Junior Bent (probably got there and the Ashton Road gates kept open and kept running)

So, outside of the senior man at the club and his son (for some reason), 4 of the remaining 11 turned up. Not exactly resounding.

Silvia Dante your lovely parents organised a Junior Reds Xmas Party back when Osman was manager. Jacki and other players were there, Osman was late. When he arrived he told players to move away from Jacki and one other and not talk to him. 
Needless to say Jacki left, which meant that the children were deprived of the chance to get his autograph. I still cringe at the way he spoke to the players.

[Edgy Red]

17 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

Outside of Osman (manager) we had Tinnion, Allison, Pennyfather, Shail and Welch there so five outfield.

I think missing were Llewellyn, Scott (was stated to be there IIRC), Rob Edwards (ditto), Stuart Munro, Dave Martin (probably in a fight somewhere), Liam Robinson (probably told where it was but missed the venue and ended up in Wickes) and Junior Bent (probably got there and the Ashton Road gates kept open and kept running)

So, outside of the senior man at the club and his son (for some reason), 4 of the remaining 11 turned up. Not exactly resounding.

Only just read this Silvio but thanks so much for making me laugh.

The comments about Martin, Robinson and Bent are comedy gold

[East Londoner]

1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said:

I’m sure I bring this up every time Escape To Victory is mentioned, but as I understand it John Warks accent was so bad they dubbed him in the final cut, and Stallone was such an arsehole that he genuinely fancied himself as a keeper so bet Pele - Pele! - that he couldn’t score six spot kicks past him. He got near to one and dislocated his finger.

And the overhead kick - one take.

I found this from an Ipswich podcast online. Talks about his career (mostly about Ipswich for obvious reasons) but also covers that movie and his time with us (safe to say he didn’t think much of Denis Smith) i didn’t realise he stayed in the area for around 30 years 

 

[Ronnie Sinclair]

Great to see Keith Welch looking well in those pictures

[Silvio Dante]

1 minute ago, Ronnie Sinclair said:

Great to see Keith Welch looking well in those pictures

You weren’t saying that 30 years ago when he took your place.

[Bristol Oil Services]

9 minutes ago, East Londoner said:

I found this from an Ipswich podcast online. Talks about his career (mostly about Ipswich for obvious reasons) but also covers that movie and his time with us (safe to say he didn’t think much of Denis Smith) i didn’t realise he stayed in the area for around 30 years 

 

Imagine his children were starting or in school about the time he was here so stayed put for that?

[Bristol Oil Services]

1 hour ago, Swede said:

In all honesty I think its good we have a former players association, its about time. I do wonder though whether in 30 years time we'll be flying in Ivan Testimitanu, Famara Dhiedhiou or Hörður Magnússon from Moldova, Iceland or Timbuctu for an impromptu cheer around the pitch. How on earth will they find or even locate them?

Due to rising sea levels, mate, we'll all be living cheek by jowl by then, it'll just be a case of making an announcement "would Ivan Testimitanu, Famara Dhiedhiou or Hordour Magnússon please report to the VIP entrance so's we can bring you out at half-time" over the Dolman tannoy ....   

[Silvio Dante]

4 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

Due to rising sea levels, mate, we'll all be living cheek by jowl by then, it'll just be a case of making an announcement "would Ivan Testimitanu, Famara Dhiedhiou or Hordour Magnússon please report to the VIP entrance so's we can bring you out at half-time" over the Dolman tannoy ....   

No chance of seeing them then.

[Super]

The state of this thread. We are a club that has pretty much achieved nothing over the years and nowhere near being a big club and basically all we have as memories are wins against Liverpool and Man United.

[pongo88]

We could have celebrated something more memorable - e.g. City’s first set of floodlights from 70 years ago. They were unique as each one could be lowered to the ground to change the bulb!  You don’t get that with these new fangled lights.

Harry Dolman had them manufactured by his company, so Marina could have come onto the pitch with a lightbulb and some fuses

[Numero Uno]

25 minutes ago, Super said:

The state of this thread. We are a club that has pretty much achieved nothing over the years and nowhere near being a big club and basically all we have as memories are wins against Liverpool and Man United.

We were in the top division for four seasons (and obviously 90 odd years before that). It is worth noting that football existed before the Premier League came into being. Btw the win against Don Revie's Leeds absolutely obliterates the win at Anfield, that Leeds team were miles ahead of the Liverpool team it's not even a comparison. In fact even the 1-1 draw at Forest was a better result if you look at it from a playing point of view because they went 1st Team to 1st Team with us and we were a third division side.

Edited January 22 by Numero Uno

[Super]

9 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

We were in the top division for four seasons (and obviously 90 odd years before that). It is worth noting that football existed before the Premier League came into being. Btw the win against Don Revie's Leeds absolutely obliterates the win at Anfield, that Leeds team were miles ahead of the Liverpool team it's not even a comparison. In fact even the 1-1 draw at Forest was a better result if you look at it from a playing point of view because they went 1st Team to 1st Team with us and we were a third division side.

Who actually cares what one off game is the bigger result the fact is we have achieved pretty much sod all and random wins is pretty much all we have to look back on.

[Numero Uno]

Just now, Super said:

Who actually cares what one off game is the bigger result the fact is we have achieved pretty much sod all and random wins is pretty much all we have to look back on.

I guess you weren't around when we were in the top flight beating teams like Liverpool (in their pomp), Arsenal, Tottenham and Man United (not every week obviously) and not in one off cup matches. Those that can remember saw that period as one of reasonable achievement, certainly worth more than a 1-0 cup win against a pretty shite Liverpool side - and not an achievement we are likely to emulate under the current ownership.

[Super]

2 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

I guess you weren't around when we were in the top flight beating teams like Liverpool (in their pomp), Arsenal, Tottenham and Man United (not every week obviously) and not in one off cup matches. Those that can remember saw that period as one of reasonable achievement, certainly worth more than a 1-0 cup win against a pretty shite Liverpool side - and not an achievement we are likely to emulate under the current ownership.

A few odd wins against bigger clubs isn't really a reasonable achievement. We have won nothing of note over the years so random wins over the years are all we have to look back on.

[RollsRoyce]

3 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

I guess you weren't around when we were in the top flight beating teams like Liverpool (in their pomp), Arsenal, Tottenham and Man United (not every week obviously) and not in one off cup matches. Those that can remember saw that period as one of reasonable achievement, certainly worth more than a 1-0 cup win against a pretty shite Liverpool side - and not an achievement we are likely to emulate under the current ownership.

A Kevin Mabbut hattrick at Old Trafford was a rather superior memory for me, as was beating THE Liverpool (Dalglish, Hanson, Souness, Clemence, Neal, Thompson etc)  European Champions at home, a couple of times, the most amazing in front of 38 688 fans. But I would hardly expect a presentation today to commemorate it. Probably the Leyland Daf trophy win, and a first trip to Wembley has more modern significance. But yes, we are sadly somewhat tinpot as we have achieved nothing in our history. For a city the size of Bristol, that IS some achievement. 

We did get relegated in successive seasons from the old Div 1 to Div 4, which was a first in the game (though Wolves also followed that achievement) 

We are one of the most underperforming teams in the history of football.

44 clubs have won the FA Cup, 52 teams have played in the Prem, 23 Teams the FL cup (another 13 runners up, a list that includes Roherham and Rochdale) 

However, where we beat anyone and everyone, and are 54 times champion, is ... The Gloucester Cup. 

Anyway, if people enjoyed the Liverpool game celebration, that is great, who should deny anyone a bit of fun? For others, it is just a harsh reminder at how poor we have been in our history. We peaked too early in 1907/8

[Superjack]

4 hours ago, Swede said:

In all honesty I think its good we have a former players association, its about time. I do wonder though whether in 30 years time we'll be flying in Ivan Testimitanu, Famara Dhiedhiou or Hörður Magnússon from Moldova, Iceland or Timbuctu for an impromptu cheer around the pitch. How on earth will they find or even locate them?

I'd cheer Ivan!

 

Peanuts and a piano. Great player.

[Markthehorn]

I kind of remember this tie on the BBC as a kid.

Wasn’t the first game played twice due to a floodlight issue?

Not quite like this but our club  twitter/x page are always bringing up the famous wins and particularly that play off goal v Leicester from Deeney after they missed a penalty which was a great moment but we did then lose the final .

 

 

 

 

Edited January 22 by Markthehorn

[handsofclay]

6 hours ago, Markthehorn said:

I kind of remember this tie on the BBC as a kid.

Wasn’t the first game played twice due to a floodlight issue?

Not quite like this but our club  twitter/x page are always bringing up the famous wins and particularly that play off goal v Leicester from Deeney after they missed a penalty which was a great moment but we did then lose the final .

 

 

 

 

Yes the first game was abandoned at 1-1 due to floodlit failure, the rearranged match also ended 1-1 before City won the replay at Anfield.

Highlights were shown on the BBC midweek sports programme. The only live coverage was of the replay when it was broadcast on a big screen at Whitchurch Sports Centre. 

[eardun]

Caught up with Monday’s Sound of the City on BBC Sounds. Good interview with Russell Osman. Interestingly he said he knows Liam Manning well (presumably from the Ipswich connection). 

[Cityboy1954]

On 20/01/2024 at 20:54, Silvio Dante said:

On a personal basis, I steadfastly refused to clap Russell Osman. Disliked him then and time is no barrier.

Mark Shail appears to have aged better than anyone else.

Interesting that they came out in positional order after the coaching team other than one man.

But I’m sure there were more players mooted - Scott and Edwards I’m sure were on the guest list originally?

And, where the hell were Junior Bent and Liam Robinson??

#JusticeforLiam

Snap no time for osman he got rid of jackie .

[cidered abroad]

On 22/01/2024 at 16:13, pongo88 said:

We could have celebrated something more memorable - e.g. City’s first set of floodlights from 70 years ago. They were unique as each one could be lowered to the ground to change the bulb!  You don’t get that with these new fangled lights.

Harry Dolman had them manufactured by his company, so Marina could have come onto the pitch with a lightbulb and some fuses

I was there to see our new lights and a great Wolves team.

[spudski]

On 22/01/2024 at 17:01, RollsRoyce said:

A Kevin Mabbut hattrick at Old Trafford was a rather superior memory for me, as was beating THE Liverpool (Dalglish, Hanson, Souness, Clemence, Neal, Thompson etc)  European Champions at home, a couple of times, the most amazing in front of 38 688 fans. But I would hardly expect a presentation today to commemorate it. Probably the Leyland Daf trophy win, and a first trip to Wembley has more modern significance. But yes, we are sadly somewhat tinpot as we have achieved nothing in our history. For a city the size of Bristol, that IS some achievement. 

We did get relegated in successive seasons from the old Div 1 to Div 4, which was a first in the game (though Wolves also followed that achievement) 

We are one of the most underperforming teams in the history of football.

44 clubs have won the FA Cup, 52 teams have played in the Prem, 23 Teams the FL cup (another 13 runners up, a list that includes Roherham and Rochdale) 

However, where we beat anyone and everyone, and are 54 times champion, is ... The Gloucester Cup. 

Anyway, if people enjoyed the Liverpool game celebration, that is great, who should deny anyone a bit of fun? For others, it is just a harsh reminder at how poor we have been in our history. We peaked too early in 1907/8

Some footage of that hatrick