Cam Pring

[Robbored]

Walking back to the car last night I had a brief chat with a couple of Forest fans. They asked who our number 3 was and said they thought he was the best player on the pitch. They also thought that they were fortunate not lose and said if City play as well in the replay then we’ll beat them.

Nice comments to hear from opposition fans.

 

[sh1t_ref_again]

The case of enjoying Cam while we can as will be gone in the summer if not before.

[And Its Smith]

Was average for the first half of the first half of the season but has really improved in the last 6 weeks.  I don’t think he will leave this window and I’m not overly convinced he will leave next window either. 

[1960maaan]

Just now, And Its Smith said:

Was average for the first half of the first half of the season but has really improved in the last 6 weeks.  I don’t think he will leave this window and I’m not overly convinced he will leave next window either. 

I know what you mean, but I do think that's a little unfair . I think it's because he set fairly high standards last year that he hadn't reached until recently. The last few games he's exceeded those .
I'd be surprised if bottom half Prem sides aren't watching him closely.

[real_bristol]

Improved under Liam you mean. It’s ok to say it.

[2015]

He has been brilliant for the last 18 months

[And Its Smith]

I like LM but Pring’s improvement under him could easily be coincidence.  Pring under Pearson last season was excellent as well. 

[Robbored]

5 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Was average for the first half of the first half of the season but has really improved in the last 6 weeks.  I don’t think he will leave this window and I’m not overly convinced he will leave next window either. 

The guy behind me in the Lansdown reckons that Pring will go in the last few hours of the window for £7m. Hopefully he’s talking bollocks but it’s worrying that he’s been right before on players leaving City.

Apparently other ‘bigger’ clubs including West Han are taking a keen interest in him.

[And Its Smith]

Just now, 2015 said:

He has been brilliant for the last 18 months

Disagree with this. There have been runs of games where he hasn’t been brilliant although I don’t think he’s ever really been poor in that time.  

[REDOXO]

Cam Pring was not even a bit part player until Pearson got here. He was always on loan and really couldn’t do much more than sixty minutes. One of the first things Pearson said was Cam didn’t really feel part of our squad. 
 

The rest is history. Well it is for the non goldfish. 

[And Its Smith]

Just now, Robbored said:

The guy behind me in the Lansdown reckons that Pring will go in the last few hours of the window for £7m. Hopefully he’s talking bollocks but it’s worrying that he’s been right before on players leaving City.

Apparently other ‘bigger’ clubs including West Han are taking a keen interest in him.

With 2.5 years left on his contract this would be disappointing.  Should be looking to keep him until the summer at least and then renewing again.  I can’t see Pring or Conway going this month 

[2015]

2 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Disagree with this. There have been runs of games where he hasn’t been brilliant although I don’t think he’s ever really been poor in that time.  

Every player will have spells of having below par performances, but in the main Pring has been very good for a long time at City and almost every week is in contention to be the MOTM. 

I just don't agree it's all down to Manning, at all.

[Robbored]

2 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

I like LM but Pring’s improvement under him could easily be coincidence.  Pring under Pearson last season was excellent as well. 

Yeah, I agree that’s Prings development could be down to him gaining experience but not in isolation. Mannings’ coaching influence is sure to be another factor.

[And Its Smith]

Just now, 2015 said:

Every player will have spells of having below par performances, but in the main Pring has been very good for a long time at City and almost every week is in contention to be the MOTM. 

I just don't agree it's all down to Manning, at all.

It’s obviously not all down to Manning.  Every player will have spells of below par performances which is why i disagreed he’s been brilliant for 18 months. Guessing that was hyperbole 

[And Its Smith]

1 minute ago, Robbored said:

Yeah, I agree that’s Prings development could be down to him gaining experience but not in isolation. Mannings’ coaching influence is sure to be another factor.

Absolutely nothing is sure or definite here. He had a poorer spell before so was due a better spell as he is better than he was showing. 

[2015]

1 minute ago, And Its Smith said:

It’s obviously not all down to Manning.  Every player will have spells of below par performances which is why i disagreed he’s been brilliant for 18 months. Guessing that was hyperbole 

He did the same last season. Had a slower start to the season and by Dec/Jan he started hitting top form. My personal opinion is that he hss been brilliant for quite a while at City.

[bearded_red]

Fair play I’ve read some things on this forum, but crediting Pring’s recent form to ‘Liam’ improving him when his best spell of form was still last season under a different manager is right up there.

[GrahamC]

17 minutes ago, Robbored said:

The guy behind me in the Lansdown reckons that Pring will go in the last few hours of the window for £7m. Hopefully he’s talking bollocks but it’s worrying that he’s been right before on players leaving City.

Apparently other ‘bigger’ clubs including West Han are taking a keen interest in him.

Isn’t this speculation?

Not seen this reported anywhere on the OS.

[CodeRed]

13 minutes ago, Robbored said:

The guy behind me in the Lansdown reckons that Pring will go in the last few hours of the window for £7m. Hopefully he’s talking bollocks but it’s worrying that he’s been right before on players leaving City

Do you sit just in front of the Director's box ?

 

[eardun]

Agree with comments above that Pring wasn’t playing as well earlier in the season and he said the same in his post match interview - that he is only now back to his form of last season. Needs to work on his crossing though; room for improvement there (as Manning said in the week). 

[redcherryberry]

Top player is Cam. 
Credit to @Harry & the original Independent fans scout group who spent many a cold wet Tuesday night watching CP at Bishops Cleeve & then passed him on to BT. The rest is history. 
 

 

[Bazooka Joe]

54 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Walking back to the car last night I had a brief chat with a couple of Forest fans. They asked who our number 3 was and said they thought he was the best player on the pitch. They also thought that they were fortunate not lose and said if City play as well in the replay then we’ll beat them.

Nice comments to hear from opposition fans.

 

Just in case Forest are interested in signing him, I hope you told them his name was “Haydon Roberts”.

[Roger Red Hat]

4 minutes ago, ChrisJ said:

And then for some strange reason Pearson shoved Bell on the left which negated Prings attacking strengths!!!! 

Really? How so?

[Shauntaylor85]

7 minutes ago, ChrisJ said:

And then for some strange reason Pearson shoved Bell on the left which negated Prings attacking strengths!!!! 

We were a better attacking outfit under Pearson. Imagine if he was allowed to sign players on Twine wages. 

[Roger Red Hat]

Just now, ChrisJ said:

Because he closed all the space that Pring likes to bomb down into

I don't think that's the case. Sam liked to cut in, or go outside leaving either route for Pring open.

[Robbored]

41 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Isn’t this speculation?

Not seen this reported anywhere on the OS.

Of course it’s speculation Graham - from the guy behind me

[Robbored]

42 minutes ago, CodeRed said:

Do you sit just in front of the Director's box ?

 

Not yet CR - I’m still waiting to win the Euromillions.

Im in W16 

[TV Tom]

When Pring is good he's very good, when Pring is not good he's indifferent, if you know what I mean 

[Nuno Gomes]

1 hour ago, REDOXO said:

Cam Pring was not even a bit part player until Pearson got here. He was always on loan and really couldn’t do much more than sixty minutes. One of the first things Pearson said was Cam didn’t really feel part of our squad. 
 

The rest is history. Well it is for the non goldfish. 

Funny how we see things differently.  I thought for a long time Pring didn’t get a fair crack of the whip under Pearson.  He used him sporadically annd appeared to preferred to only play him when he had to despite Pring when he did play more than justified his selection.  Those around me all held the same view that it seemed Pring was a first choice but Pearson saw it differently.

[2015]

3 minutes ago, Nuno Gomes said:

Funny how we see things differently.  I thought for a long time Pring didn’t get a fair crack of the whip under Pearson.  He used him sporadically annd appeared to preferred to only play him when he had to despite Pring when he did play more than justified his selection.  Those around me all held the same view that it seemed Pring was a first choice but Pearson saw it differently.

Really? Didn't Pearson give him a fair crack from 2021/22 season?

He had to bed him in slowly as he was inexperienced at Championship level Football, it was smart management imo.

[FNQ]

1 hour ago, 2015 said:

He has been brilliant for the last 18 months

Just imagine if he could shoot.. could’ve, should’ve scored against both prem sides.

[ExiledAjax]

11 minutes ago, ChrisJ said:

Not at the same stage of his reign as manning we wasn’t some good spells and lots of bad ones but I’m not going to have a Pearson b manning debate 

I mean...that's because Manning took on a functional football team whereas Pearson took on an abstract interpretation of the concept of a football team.

So yeh, Manning's performance at the equivalent stage of his "reign" should be better.

[steviestevieneville]

14 minutes ago, Nuno Gomes said:

Funny how we see things differently.  I thought for a long time Pring didn’t get a fair crack of the whip under Pearson.  He used him sporadically annd appeared to preferred to only play him when he had to despite Pring when he did play more than justified his selection.  Those around me all held the same view that it seemed Pring was a first choice but Pearson saw it differently.

Pring was nowhere near fit enough to start with & had to build up his levels. When Pearson started playing him he was spent after a hour. It took a long time for him to build up the stamina we see today. Similar is happening now with mcrorie. Lots go on behind the scenes that fans are not privy to. There’s a reason they make the choices they do that we don’t know about. 

[Charlie BCFC]

30 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

We were a better attacking outfit under Pearson. Imagine if he was allowed to sign players on Twine wages. 

I don’t agree but do we really have to make this thread a Manning v Pearson debate again? Thought we had moved on

[Ashtongreight]

5 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

Pring was nowhere near fit enough to start with & had to build up his levels. When Pearson started playing him he was spent after a hour. It took a long time for him to build up the stamina we see today. Similar is happening now with mcrorie. Lots go on behind the scenes that fans are not privy to. There’s a reason they make the choices they do that we don’t know about. 

I noticed on Mcororie’s first start, there were times you could almost see him consciously playing within his limits. Not making forward runs etc, each game his levels improve, but he’s still not up to full speed yet. Once he does I think he’ll be one hell of a player, such a shame he has been out for so long. 

[Davefevs]

2 hours ago, real_bristol said:

Improved under Liam you mean. It’s ok to say it.

Well, not even Liam Manning is putting it down to Liam Manning.  Worth watch this week’s interviews.  He was asked about Cam’s upturn in form (subjective opinion).  His reply?  “Nah, we’ve left him alone pretty much”.

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, 2015 said:

Really? Didn't Pearson give him a fair crack from 2021/22 season?

He had to bed him in slowly as he was inexperienced at Championship level Football, it was smart management imo.

He did bed him in well, then he took him out.  At the start of last season, Cam had to force his way back in.

But he was excellent second half of last season.  He’s been fine this season, once the opening couple of games got out the way…although he had a mare at QPR.

[GrahamC]

58 minutes ago, Ashtongreight said:

I noticed on Mcororie’s first start, there were times you could almost see him consciously playing within his limits. Not making forward runs etc, each game his levels improve, but he’s still not up to full speed yet. Once he does I think he’ll be one hell of a player, such a shame he has been out for so long. 

Which for a guy who was out for 6 months is totally understandable.

Manning has managed him well & hopefully before too long now he’ll be able to finish the full 90 & we’ll have Sykes available too.

[The Original OTIB]

2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Well, not even Liam Manning is putting it down to Liam Manning.  Worth watch this week’s interviews.  He was asked about Cam’s upturn in form (subjective opinion).  His reply?  “Nah, we’ve left him alone pretty much”.

Some should keep in mind amidst all this waffle that he and Anis made a World Cup winner look pretty poor at times last night. Clearly, both have something.

[REDOXO]

3 hours ago, Nuno Gomes said:

Funny how we see things differently.  I thought for a long time Pring didn’t get a fair crack of the whip under Pearson.  He used him sporadically annd appeared to preferred to only play him when he had to despite Pring when he did play more than justified his selection.  Those around me all held the same view that it seemed Pring was a first choice but Pearson saw it differently.

LJ always had him on loan that is a fact. Was he a regular under Holden? The biggest issue with Pring is he used to only have 60 in him. He was always blowing so something changed. As I said Pearson’s thoughts on Pring feeling he was not a part of the squad were among his very early statements. 
 

The boy is what now 26ish? The fact he really didn’t do much for us pre Pearson says it all really. Another player who may well make us a shit load of money. How many ‘league one player at best’ statements were made here I lost count of. 
 

Pre Pearson no one had heard of Scot and there was a 60 page thread on here about how  Semenyo was not a striker because they score goals! 
 

You shrug your shoulders sometimes on how short memories are 

[Davefevs]

2 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

LJ always had him on loan that is a fact. Was he a regular under Holden? The biggest issue with Pring is he used to only have 60 in him. He was always blowing so something changed. As I said Pearson’s thoughts on Pring feeling he was not a part of the squad were among his very early statements. 
 

The boy is what now 26ish? The fact he really didn’t do much for us pre Pearson says it all really. Another player who may well make us a shit load of money. How many ‘league one player at best’ statements were made here I lost count of. 
 

Pre Pearson no one had heard of Scot and there was a 60 page thread on here about how  Semenyo was not a striker because they score goals! 
 

You shrug your shoulders sometimes on how short memories are 

Holden / Tinnion loaned him to Portsmouth, recalled him in January, only to get injured in his first training session or two back.  Out for the rest of the season iirc.

[REDOXO]

3 hours ago, ChrisJ said:

And then for some strange reason Pearson shoved Bell on the left which negated Prings attacking strengths!!!! 

Because Prings engine was not up to 90 of getting up and down for that length of time. The fitness people worked hard on that. Also we had limited money to change things given to Pearson so he had to go with the what he had in the best way to suit what he had. 

[REDOXO]

Just now, Davefevs said:

Holden / Tinnion loaned him to Portsmouth, recalled him in January, only to get injured in his first training session or two back.  Out for the rest of the season iirc.

Exactly Dave. Can Pring was not really a part of anything at AG until Pearson. The revisionism is so tiresome!

[REDOXO]

1 minute ago, ChrisJ said:

Oh ok so he played bell on the left because Pring wasn’t fit, a masterclass a bit like dropping Sykes first game of the season and playing Cornick on the right, who according to Pearson was signed as a “wide forward”!!! 

How many games had Bell played pre Pearson. Who signed Sykes? 
 

We had what we had available with the spend he was given. Not the case so much now.
 

Players are picked to compete with what’s in front of them, however I guess the guy who built a squad that included Vardy and Mahrez, that no one had heard of, that went on to win the Premier League is a bit of a dolt!

Perhaps you are right hadn’t a clue 

[Davefevs]

 

10 minutes ago, ChrisJ said:

Oh ok so he played bell on the left because Pring wasn’t fit, a masterclass a bit like dropping Sykes first game of the season and playing Cornick on the right, who according to Pearson was signed as a “wide forward”!!! 

Yawn, another post of the sane diatribe! eff me!

[Dr Balls]

To bring the thread back to Cam Pring, the reality is that he is now one of our fittest and strongest players. Few attackers get past him and the fact that he was up with Cornick on that break at the end is witness to that. He really has stepped it up in the past 18 months and there are arguments to be made for him being the best left back in the Championship. So hardly surprising if Premier League clubs are eyeing him as a potential recruit. But with 2.5 years on his contract we should really be looking to hold onto him at least until the end of next season.

[The Original OTIB]

1 minute ago, Dr Balls said:

To bring the thread back to Cam Pring, the reality is that he is now one of our fittest and strongest players. Few attackers get past him and the fact that he was up with Cornick on that break at the end is witness to that. He really has stepped it up in the past 18 months and there are arguments to be made for him being the best left back in the Championship. So hardly surprising if Premier League clubs are eyeing him as a potential recruit. But with 2.5 years on his contract we should really be looking to hold onto him at least until the end of next season.

Would suit Ange at Spurs.

[Davefevs]

1 minute ago, Dr Balls said:

To bring the thread back to Cam Pring, the reality is that he is now one of our fittest and strongest players. Few attackers get past him and the fact that he was up with Cornick on that break at the end is witness to that. He really has stepped it up in the past 18 months and there are arguments to be made for him being the best left back in the Championship. So hardly surprising if Premier League clubs are eyeing him as a potential recruit. But with 2.5 years on his contract we should really be looking to hold onto him at least until the end of next season.

Yes, this from a guy who suffers from nose-bleeds so has breathing issues at times.

[REDOXO]

2 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

 

Yawn, another post of the sane diatribe! eff me!

Yep. I know it. Love the ignore button!

[ExiledAjax]

1 minute ago, Dr Balls said:

To bring the thread back to Cam Pring, the reality is that he is now one of our fittest and strongest players. Few attackers get past him and the fact that he was up with Cornick on that break at the end is witness to that. He really has stepped it up in the past 18 months and there are arguments to be made for him being the best left back in the Championship. So hardly surprising if Premier League clubs are eyeing him as a potential recruit. But with 2.5 years on his contract we should really be looking to hold onto him at least until the end of next season.

There's certainly absolutely no way on earth we'd be able to buy a LB/LWB of his ability and resale potential. 

If/when he leaves we'll book a handsome +ve number on our accounts, but we'll lose an excellent player in his prime. 

I like him a lot and don't really see how he can be one of the players anyone sees particular issue with right now.

[Dr Balls]

4 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Yes, this from a guy who suffers from nose-bleeds so has breathing issues at times.

I thought that was George Tanner going over the halfway line! 

[The Original OTIB]

1 minute ago, Dr Balls said:

I thought that was George Tanner going over the halfway line! 

Had a lovely little dribble and cross 2nd half, not sure how Anis missed about a yard out.

[Galley is our king]

21 minutes ago, ChrisJ said:

**** me glory glory Leicester city nearly 15 years ago what has that got to do with bcfc. We lose a game yea but mahrez or we win a game he signed vardy it’s irrelevant it’s about bcfc!!!

Oh dear, now who's turning this into a Manning v Pearson thread?

I thought you got over that?

[REDOXO]

2 minutes ago, Galley is our king said:

Oh dear, now who's turning this into a Manning v Pearson thread?

I thought you got over that?

Clearly not!  

[Sheltons Army]

1 hour ago, ChrisJ said:

I think a lot of times the manager impact might be minimal just players naturally getting better as they play more. So someone like Scott how much was his improvement down to Pearson or him naturally improving same with Williams under manning, obviously the top managers make players better like pep and klopp not so sure about this level but who knows.

So having your claim on Pring put into context

Youve now resorted to suggesting Pearson didn’t have much to do with Scott

 

At learnt you are consistent ...... in your take / push .....on everything manager wise 

[real_bristol]

3 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Well, not even Liam Manning is putting it down to Liam Manning.  Worth watch this week’s interviews.  He was asked about Cam’s upturn in form (subjective opinion).  His reply?  “Nah, we’ve left him alone pretty much”.

Interesting, I did not hear that Fevs thanks for sharing. Sounds modest of him. LM can take the credit for “leaving him alone” then, and increasing his value IMO. I was just being flippant anyway. The raw talent was there, we could all see it. If I’m being honest if he was thrown up against two prem teams under Nige I’m sure he would have done equally as well.

Edited January 27 by real_bristol

[Davefevs]

3 minutes ago, real_bristol said:

Interesting, I did not hear that Fevs thanks for sharing. Sounds modest of him. LM can take the credit for “leaving him alone” then, and increasing his value IMO. I was just being flippant anyway. The raw talent was there, we could all see it. If I’m being honest if he was thrown up against two prem teams under Nige I’m sure he would have done equally as well.

Yes, modest indeed.  I like most of what Manning says.  I think he’s fine.

[chinapig]

54 minutes ago, ChrisJ said:

Not saying that at all Pearson might have been the difference maker he may be 100% responsible I have no idea, what I was questioning was whether coaches at this level have a big impact on development or whether it is natural progression whether that is Pearson manning Wagner Sheff Wed manager whoever.

In that case why have coaches at all if they have little impact?

In any event it's not just about technical coaching. Before Nigel came in Cam was an outcast. He said himself that he didn't feel part of the club.

Nigel brought him back into the fold, showed faith in him and in due course he replaced JD with him. Giving a player opportunities and confidence counts for a lot.

[Alan Dicks]

Wonder what he’s worth these day?

[Natchfever]

5 hours ago, ChrisJ said:

Oh ok so he played bell on the left because Pring wasn’t fit, a masterclass a bit like dropping Sykes first game of the season and playing Cornick on the right, who according to Pearson was signed as a “wide forward”!!! 

You appear to be contradicting your assertion that the thread shouldnt be about previous v current manager.

Most odd.

[REDOXO]

2 hours ago, Natchfever said:

You appear to be contradicting your assertion that the thread shouldnt be about previous v current manager.

Most odd.

All I would say is if the bloke wasn’t quoted I wouldn’t end up seeing his nonsense anymore.  Just FYI!

Edited January 27 by REDOXO

[Natchfever]

34 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

All I would say is if the bloke wasn’t quoted I wouldn’t end up seeing his nonsense anymore.  Just FYI!

2 week veteran

More BS BS perhaps

[PHILINFRANCE]

8 hours ago, ChrisJ said:

**** me glory glory Leicester city nearly 15 years ago what has that got to do with bcfc. We lose a game yea but mahrez or we win a game he signed vardy it’s irrelevant it’s about bcfc!!!

Almost eight years ago, actually.

But, anyway….

[42nite]

14 hours ago, Robbored said:

Walking back to the car last night I had a brief chat with a couple of Forest fans. They asked who our number 3 was and said they thought he was the best player on the pitch. They also thought that they were fortunate not lose and said if City play as well in the replay then we’ll beat them.

Nice comments to hear from opposition fans.

 

Did they say we were the bestest fans and the most loudest only just behind their real favourites the Saggy Roverzzz?

[W-S-M Seagull]

14 hours ago, Robbored said:

Walking back to the car last night I had a brief chat with a couple of Forest fans. They asked who our number 3 was and said they thought he was the best player on the pitch. They also thought that they were fortunate not lose and said if City play as well in the replay then we’ll beat them.

Nice comments to hear from opposition fans.

 

I think if we can go there and perform as we did last night and frustrate them then the home crowd will get restless and that can play into our hands. 

[FNQ]

6 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

I think if we can go there and perform as we did last night and frustrate them then the home crowd will get restless and that can play into our hands. 

We still need to find a way to score though.. Imagine if it goes to penalties and it easily could. Tommy won’t be on the pitch after extra time, nor will Jamo, Ross McCrorie and unlikely Joe too, so who’ll take them?

My guess;

1. Nahki, 2 Sam, 3 Knightey, 4 Zac, 5 Harry ..

Has Max ever saved a penalty for us?

[GrahamC]

14 minutes ago, FNQ said:

We still need to find a way to score though.. Imagine if it goes to penalties and it easily could. Tommy won’t be on the pitch after extra time, nor will Jamo, Ross McCrorie and unlikely Joe too, so who’ll take them?

My guess;

1. Nahki, 2 Sam, 3 Knightey, 4 Zac, 5 Harry ..

Has Max ever saved a penalty for us?

2- Millwall away in 2019 & Stoke home (Benik Afobe took it) in 2022.

I’ll be amazed if the game lasts 120 minutes though.

[Lordofthebling]

Who's Joe Bryan?

[FNQ]

3 minutes ago, Lordofthebling said:

Who's Joe Bryan?

Mr Bryan’s son?

[Flamin Groovy]

2 hours ago, FNQ said:

We still need to find a way to score though.. Imagine if it goes to penalties and it easily could. Tommy won’t be on the pitch after extra time, nor will Jamo, Ross McCrorie and unlikely Joe too, so who’ll take them?

My guess;

1. Nahki, 2 Sam, 3 Knightey, 4 Zac, 5 Harry ..

Has Max ever saved a penalty for us?

Didn’t Max save a pen at Villa?