Wokingham Red Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I apologise if I’m going over a topic which has been discussed before but it struck me how last night’s “sold out” home game was far from it. There seems to be a big issue with no-shows. What is driving this issue? Of course not all STHs can make every game. I heard a theory last night that people bought an under 12s ST just to get a free shirt and/or to give themselves more space. What could the club do to combat this? Perhaps creating a proper resale platform? Or some kind of enforcement if a season ticket is a no-show for say 3/4 home games in a row. Seems like the club are missing out on an easy win with a resale platform which would generate more ticket and food/drink revenue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Not sure you can enforce a no show policy. Someone's paid for that seat for the season, it's up to them how often they go. One of our group due to personal circumstances has only been once this season and I'd be disgusted if the club tried to do something to take his ticket away. Essentially the clubs decided on the price of a seat, someone's decided to pay that price. Not the clubs business if that seat is filled on the day or not. Also, to get a kids ticket you have to show a birth certificate for that child 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 South stand is the worst culprit imo so I think you're spot on about the cheap kids ticket. Almost no reason not to as they only have to go to a handful of games over the season for it to be worth it. Resale is a decent idea, but if you're a group it's going to be a pain buying individual tickets in dribs and drabs as people put them up for resale. I'd think about ditching the free shirt thing or increasing the price personally, though I don't know all the details. Why not just sell kids shirts much cheaper in the shop instead? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wokingham Red Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 2 minutes ago, Dredd said: Not sure you can enforce a no show policy. Someone's paid for that seat for the season, it's up to them how often they go. One of our group due to personal circumstances has only been once this season and I'd be disgusted if the club tried to do something to take his ticket away. Essentially the clubs decided on the price of a seat, someone's decided to pay that price. Not the clubs business if that seat is filled on the day or not. Also, to get a kids ticket you have to show a birth certificate for that child Didn’t realise about the birth certificate thing. Thanks for explaining that. My thinking around enforcement is that it wouldn’t be automatic. The STH would initially be contacted to see what’s going on. A resale platform would probably mitigate the need for any enforcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) For starters if anyone has used a season ticket or three times less over the whole season it gets cancelled next season with a right to appeal if there are circumstances such as illness involved. Kids season tickets are not for selfish fat ***** to enable themselves to have a bit of space between them and the next person. Buyback also needs to be seriously looked at. However if Manning carries on earning half a point a game in six match periods it won’t be a problem. Edited February 3 by Numero Uno 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinMan's left peg Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) Other clubs do the resale thing I think (Arsenal?). Can the club take a cut of that so everyone’s a winner? whilst I’m fully behind all the promotions for kids (they’re the next generation of support etc) I do think there’s an issue when we are “sold out” and there are people who want to come but can’t get a ticket yet there’s hundreds of empty seats everywhere. Edited February 3 by TinMan's left peg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 4 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: ...if Manning carries on earning half a point a game in six match periods it won’t be a problem. This 100%! But to the OP - as someone not living in Bristol I can almost never get to evening matches - these days the trip includes the cost of an overnight. Beyond that over the years in most seasons I've rarely been able to get to anything like the majority of matches. I've always thought I was doing the club a favour by giving them money up front and paying more than if I was to POTD. It only seems a problem for matches that sell out. Can't see that happening regularly any time soon. The South Stand issue is another matter. I'd have thought it perfectly fair for the the club to restrict the sale of kids seats to the family section...but my kids are far too old for that to be an issue for me! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks 1969 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Watching on sky last night and was surprised with how many empty seats in the SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 A few quick points: - As a STH I couldn’t go last night due to illness. That meant my two kids also couldn’t go. I also missed Ipswich (holiday) and will miss Swansea (kids football). I don’t imagine I’m unique here so I think you have to work on ST holders generally not being able to attend 10% of games. That gives a heck of a lot of the empty seats already - The kids ticket is a huge seller for a few reasons. What it actually does as well is encourage the adult to buy a ticket, so if anything’s done there you may lose two sales. For me, I bought a kids ST for my son in the Dolman for a couple of years before he attended regularly - because they were seats I had, seats I liked, and I didn’t want to move to family section then have to bunfight for seats close to my original ones back thereafter. In that period he probably attended 5 games a season. - The recent games have had a disproportionate impact. But generally, we’re not in a space where we need a buy back. Seats are generally always available so I’m not sure it’s either cost effective or needed at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 3 minutes ago, sticks 1969 said: Watching on sky last night and was surprised with how many empty seats in the SS I wasn’t. I know several elderly ST holders with Sky, no way were they venturing out for it. The Portway was closed from mid afternoon, Bristol has appalling traffic, few decent options to get to the ground without driving, followed by the nightmare of parking & if I didn’t live near enough to walk, I’m not 100% sure I would go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 3 Admin Share Posted February 3 Interesting points raised already in this thread and it is something that has been discussed with the club and the SC&T 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vespa Red Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I'm a season ticket holder. Living in South Wales, we either use the park and ride from Shire, the train from STJ to Parson Street or I park at a mate's or my partner's house in Portishead and share a lift in. However, last night seemed to be the perfect storm of closed Portway, closed line between TM and Parson Street and 2 season ticket holders begging one seat in my mate's car. Add a broken leg to the mix and we decided, with regret, to watch it on telly. Our seats will be included in the sell-out as they are season tickets. But enough of the excuses.... However, at any given point in time, everyone will have their individual reasons for not being able to attend. Unfortunately for me, life over the last 5 years has conspired against me to the point where, even though I've had season tickets every year, I've probably missed more games than I've been to. Oh well. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zider'ed Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) Surely with today's technology, there has to be a way of season ticket holders letting the club know that they can't make certain games due to holidays or family commitments etc, then making their seats available for general sale. As an incentive, if a season ticket holders seat is then resold, the club could add points to season ticket holders My City Rewards balance. I looked to buy 3 tickets earlier this week as plans changed meaning we could make it, but unfortunately could not book 3 seats together. Then watch it on Sky and see 100's of seats empty, especially in the South Stand. Maybe there could be the opportunity of a resale the day before a game of any seats made available. Edited February 3 by zider'ed . 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Top of the lansdown had loaaaaads of empty seats too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Games i would of missed by the end of the season i reckon will be in double figures due to work commitments and holiday (i already know i will miss the Man Utd game due to work and holiday for the Leicester game and there are probably more that i haven't even looked at yet) i do try to pass my ticket onto family if i can't make it, in regards to empty seats in the SS i know for a fact that their are many who have bought kids tickets and they never get used, this is a massive problem, personally i would up the price to at least £100 and make the shirts half price instead of being free as this might discourage those that are clearly taking the piss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leabrook Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, Wokingham Red said: I apologise if I’m going over a topic which has been discussed before but it struck me how last night’s “sold out” home game was far from it. There seems to be a big issue with no-shows. What is driving this issue? Of course not all STHs can make every game. I heard a theory last night that people bought an under 12s ST just to get a free shirt and/or to give themselves more space. What could the club do to combat this? Perhaps creating a proper resale platform? Or some kind of enforcement if a season ticket is a no-show for say 3/4 home games in a row. Seems like the club are missing out on an easy win with a resale platform which would generate more ticket and food/drink revenue. It is actually sold out. Not ‘sold out’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54-46 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Were the empty seats available for purchase in the first place though or do City hold some back so as not to trigger the “consecutive big crowd” clause which would mean they need to implement and fund a parking scheme…… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leabrook Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 22 minutes ago, zider'ed said: Surely with today's technology, there has to be a way of season ticket holders letting the club know that they can't make certain games due to holidays or family commitments etc, then making their seats available for general sale. As an incentive, if a season ticket holders seat is then resold, the club could add points to season ticket holders My City Rewards balance. I looked to buy 3 tickets earlier this week as plans changed meaning we could make it, but unfortunately could not book 3 seats together. Then watch it on Sky and see 100's of seats empty, especially in the South Stand. Maybe there could be the opportunity of a resale the day before a game of any seats made available. Good idea. Sadly there is no way Jon Lansdown is clever enough to think of it or make it happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepywall Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Bizarrely, around me in S20 it seemed quite busy first half but loads more available seats second half..there were a few Leeds fans about that didn't reappear for the second half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Apparently we have 26,400 seats. Rough figures; The Atyeo has 4,200 seats. There was about 3,000 Leeds Leaves 1,200 empty. Total 25,400 Attendance 25,429 so we sold what we could. As for empty seats, at least in the SS . Take a look at the back, I mentioned to a mate how many seats were empty , but then noticed a lot stand at the back of the stand. That and no shows / young kids not coming for a night game and I think that explains it. The Club have made it possible to pass on your season ticket, so they've done their part. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open End Numb Legs Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I am sure no one is being criticised for not being there, it is about making the seats available. I know an Arsenal fan who makes use of their scheme very successfully. He lives in Wilts but flies out of Heathrow and can get to the odd mid week games when convenient for him. There will be some who find themselves suddenly free to go to AG due to a change of plans but put off enquiring by the sell out tag, or, more likely at the prospect of a poor seat/view. Some of the seats free last night were in prime spots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, Dredd said: Not sure you can enforce a no show policy. Someone's paid for that seat for the season, it's up to them how often they go. One of our group due to personal circumstances has only been once this season and I'd be disgusted if the club tried to do something to take his ticket away. Essentially the clubs decided on the price of a seat, someone's decided to pay that price. Not the clubs business if that seat is filled on the day or not. Also, to get a kids ticket you have to show a birth certificate for that child Ditto last night for my group. We used to give our season cards to an old fellow from the village when one of us couldn't show, but he hasn't got a smart phone so there isn't an easy option for passing on your seat to him, particularly if it's last-minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 3 Admin Share Posted February 3 35 minutes ago, zider'ed said: Surely with today's technology, there has to be a way of season ticket holders letting the club know that they can't make certain games due to holidays or family commitments etc, then making their seats available for general sale. As an incentive, if a season ticket holders seat is then resold, the club could add points to season ticket holders My City Rewards balance. I looked to buy 3 tickets earlier this week as plans changed meaning we could make it, but unfortunately could not book 3 seats together. Then watch it on Sky and see 100's of seats empty, especially in the South Stand. Maybe there could be the opportunity of a resale the day before a game of any seats made available. Like mentioned already I'd say it's about supply and demand. Up until very recently we haven't been selling out so tickets have always been available 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pj76 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 We have missed maybe three games. For each of those games I transferred the tickets to someone else. They got cut price or free tickets if I was feeling generous for amazing average football and were totally happy. Some of this "big lad buys a kids' ST for their right leg" is patently overstated, and the obsession with kids tickets - the future fanbase - is also a bit OTT. People should just chill out and watch the game. We're not at the point where we sell out regularly. If hell freezes over and we become the new Brighton or something these issues will resolve themselves. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, Wokingham Red said: I apologise if I’m going over a topic which has been discussed before but it struck me how last night’s “sold out” home game was far from it. There seems to be a big issue with no-shows. What is driving this issue? Of course not all STHs can make every game. I heard a theory last night that people bought an under 12s ST just to get a free shirt and/or to give themselves more space. What could the club do to combat this? Perhaps creating a proper resale platform? Or some kind of enforcement if a season ticket is a no-show for say 3/4 home games in a row. Seems like the club are missing out on an easy win with a resale platform which would generate more ticket and food/drink revenue. This a joke right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street red Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 7 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: Apparently we have 26,400 seats. Rough figures; The Atyeo has 4,200 seats. There was about 3,000 Leeds Leaves 1,200 empty. Total 25,400 Attendance 25,429 so we sold what we could. As for empty seats, at least in the SS . Take a look at the back, I mentioned to a mate how many seats were empty , but then noticed a lot stand at the back of the stand. That and no shows / young kids not coming for a night game and I think that explains it. The Club have made it possible to pass on your season ticket, so they've done their part. There is a seat near us in the south stand at the back it never comes up for sale,The bloke next to me tried to book the seat for his missus but couldn't been like it for a couple of seasons apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 minute ago, Street red said: There is a seat near us in the south stand at the back it never comes up for sale,The bloke next to me tried to book the seat for his missus but couldn't been like it for a couple of seasons apparently. If it's someone who likes to stand at the back, it would make sense. Specially someone who can stand with mates, but struggled to get seats together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just like watching brazil Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Have we ever won a home league game or even when our away ends been sold out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, Dredd said: Not sure you can enforce a no show policy. Someone's paid for that seat for the season, it's up to them how often they go. One of our group due to personal circumstances has only been once this season and I'd be disgusted if the club tried to do something to take his ticket away. Essentially the clubs decided on the price of a seat, someone's decided to pay that price. Not the clubs business if that seat is filled on the day or not. Also, to get a kids ticket you have to show a birth certificate for that child Yes and there is at least one example of someone buying a season ticket for their niece who never goes to games "so they don't have to sit next to anyone". It's not difficult to circumvent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Hill Red Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Still, the reported attendance of 25,429 looks good on paper! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartockRed Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 They’ll be 3 seats spare front row in South Stand, just to the left of the goal as you look at it. We haven’t attended since Pearson was sacked. I doubt we’re the only ones.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 56 minutes ago, Leabrook said: It is actually sold out. Not ‘sold out’ Based on last night's and other recent performances, many fans will rightly claim they've been sold out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 48 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: The Club have made it possible to pass on your season ticket, so they've done their part. True, but it's becoming harder to find any takers. Now that's really telling. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 hours ago, Wokingham Red said: I apologise if I’m going over a topic which has been discussed before but it struck me how last night’s “sold out” home game was far from it. There seems to be a big issue with no-shows. What is driving this issue? Of course not all STHs can make every game. I heard a theory last night that people bought an under 12s ST just to get a free shirt and/or to give themselves more space. What could the club do to combat this? Perhaps creating a proper resale platform? Or some kind of enforcement if a season ticket is a no-show for say 3/4 home games in a row. Seems like the club are missing out on an easy win with a resale platform which would generate more ticket and food/drink revenue. The sold out is embarrassing. We have a 27K stadium, yet 25K is our sell out. Need those corners filled in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 At Arsenal you have to attend 10 games a season on your digital ticket or you lose it for the next season. But you can transfer it to another person’s mobile if you add them to your community. Surely the club can find a more flexible way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 20 minutes ago, MartockRed said: They’ll be 3 seats spare front row in South Stand, just to the left of the goal as you look at it. We haven’t attended since Pearson was sacked. I doubt we’re the only ones.. We're better off without "fans" like you, i expect we'll find you down at Yeovil being as they're top of their league 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 8 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: The sold out is embarrassing. We have a 27K stadium, yet 25K is our sell out. Need those corners filled in. I hate quoting myself , but ... 1 hour ago, 1960maaan said: Apparently we have 26,400 seats. Rough figures; The Atyeo has 4,200 seats. There was about 3,000 Leeds Leaves 1,200 empty. Total 25,400 Attendance 25,429 so we sold what we could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobtherobin Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 3 hours ago, Wokingham Red said: I apologise if I’m going over a topic which has been discussed before but it struck me how last night’s “sold out” home game was far from it. There seems to be a big issue with no-shows. What is driving this issue? Of course not all STHs can make every game. I heard a theory last night that people bought an under 12s ST just to get a free shirt and/or to give themselves more space. What could the club do to combat this? Perhaps creating a proper resale platform? Or some kind of enforcement if a season ticket is a no-show for say 3/4 home games in a row. Seems like the club are missing out on an easy win with a resale platform which would generate more ticket and food/drink revenue. Its not easy taking u12s to a night game. Especially on a Friday after a week of school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hankey Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) An “enforcement” for no shows? **** me, I miss the vast majority of night games due to not having enough time to finish work, shower, eat dinner and then make it to the ground in time. And sometimes, in the middle of winter or if its been pissing down all day, then sometimes you would rather just stay at home with family than watch a terrible game of football! Fully behind a resale potentially if you are not attending the game, but to try and “enforce” something for not turning up to games (which they have already paid for) is complete madness, would never ever happen. Edited February 3 by Mr Hankey 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 minutes ago, Ryan said: Its not easy taking u12s to a night game. Especially on a Friday after a week of school. True. The problem isn’t with the people who find themselves in that position, the problem is with people who know full well that the ST they buy cheap is rarely, if ever, going to be used even on a Saturday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartockRed Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 8 minutes ago, TV Tom said: We're better off without "fans" like you, i expect we'll find you down at Yeovil being as they're top of their league Aww bless. I’ve barely missed a city home game in 25 years, ever since I passed my driving test and could travel from Yeovil area. If you’re not intelligent enough to read between the lines of why I haven’t been since Pearson was sacked then jog on little Tommy. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 18 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: The sold out is embarrassing. We have a 27K stadium, yet 25K is our sell out. Need those corners filled in. I'll work backwards a bit. Dunno if it is the case for rugby too but the Atyeo nominally holds 4.2k but the max for football especially seems to be 3.4k or thereabouts. You can knock off 800 there for one- Jerry confirmed the max capacity in the SLO Q&A last year. In the past there has been a rule pertaining to 10% reduction in areas of Persistent Standing or Unreserved Seating. I don't know if it is still the case but it would also account for some in the Safe Standing area. Still a circle or 2 to square but if Leeds had under 3k last night that would also start to square it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 20 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: The sold out is embarrassing. We have a 27K stadium, yet 25K is our sell out. It’s not embarrassing. If all available tickets are sold that’s a sell out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back of the Dolman Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, zider'ed said: Surely with today's technology, there has to be a way of season ticket holders letting the club know that they can't make certain games due to holidays or family commitments etc, then making their seats available for general sale. As an incentive, if a season ticket holders seat is then resold, the club could add points to season ticket holders My City Rewards balance. I looked to buy 3 tickets earlier this week as plans changed meaning we could make it, but unfortunately could not book 3 seats together. Then watch it on Sky and see 100's of seats empty, especially in the South Stand. Maybe there could be the opportunity of a resale the day before a game of any seats made available. If there was a call for it then it would be good if the club could re-sell STH’s seats that won’t be used for a match. However points in the rewards scheme is no incentive at all as it’s rubbish ! Bits that’s a whole different thread. Do people think the open layout of the concourses at the ground are fuelling this problem of empty seats as it enables people to buy a cheaper seat and then move to other areas of the ground. Last night there were large numbers standing at the back of the Dolman and it happens often that I have different people around me in the second half than I had in the first half. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 minute ago, MartockRed said: Aww bless. I’ve barely missed a city home game in 25 years, ever since I passed my driving test and could travel from Yeovil area. If you’re not intelligent enough to read between the lines of why I haven’t been since Pearson was sacked then jog on little Tommy. Sorry mate no idea where you're coming from in regards to "reading between the lines" is it because you didn't want NP sacked so you and your two mates are forming some kind of protest ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPAZZA Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 hours ago, zider'ed said: Surely with today's technology, there has to be a way of season ticket holders letting the club know that they can't make certain games due to holidays or family commitments etc, then making their seats available for general sale. As an incentive, if a season ticket holders seat is then resold, the club could add points to season ticket holders My City Rewards balance. I looked to buy 3 tickets earlier this week as plans changed meaning we could make it, but unfortunately could not book 3 seats together. Then watch it on Sky and see 100's of seats empty, especially in the South Stand. Maybe there could be the opportunity of a resale the day before a game of any seats made available. We have it at Leeds. ST Holders mark on their accounts games they can’t attend, they go for resale as a block at a specific time (all the ST resales) ST Holder gets their average £ per game credited to their account to come off next years ST and club gets the extra as they sell it on for more. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wokingham Red Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 10 minutes ago, SPAZZA said: We have it at Leeds. ST Holders mark on their accounts games they can’t attend, they go for resale as a block at a specific time (all the ST resales) ST Holder gets their average £ per game credited to their account to come off next years ST and club gets the extra as they sell it on for more. Interesting. I guess your situation is different to ours where the supply is much greater. Last night was quite a rare occurance. As others have said, enforcement for us would be a probably OTT. But a resale platform shouldn’t really be a tough ask for a championship club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 3 hours ago, sticks 1969 said: Watching on sky last night and was surprised with how many empty seats in the SS They're all stood at the back of the Dolman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back of the Dolman Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 17 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said: They're all stood at the back of the Dolman. This is the exact comment I’ve made previously about this subject. Last night a security woman was asking people to sit down and not stand at the back before the game had even started ! And then it was only one or two people spread out across the length of the stand. Game starts and the back fills up and no sign of the security then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) 4 hours ago, IAmNick said: South stand is the worst culprit imo so I think you're spot on about the cheap kids ticket. Almost no reason not to as they only have to go to a handful of games over the season for it to be worth it. Resale is a decent idea, but if you're a group it's going to be a pain buying individual tickets in dribs and drabs as people put them up for resale. I'd think about ditching the free shirt thing or increasing the price personally, though I don't know all the details. Why not just sell kids shirts much cheaper in the shop instead? So many empty seats. Not just single seats, almost whole rows. Taken after 39 mins of match. Edited February 3 by Davefevs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Davefevs said: So many empty seats. Not just single seats, almost whole rows. Taken after 39 mins of match. There is often an exodus 5 mins from HT to beat the queues etc. Would roughly align with 39 mins. Edited February 3 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Just now, Davefevs said: So many empty seats. Not just single seats, almost whole rows. And it got worse as the game went on. Ultimately (and I say this with 4 STs, including 2 kids ones in the Dolman), the concept of £50 kids STs on the South Stand, while we already have a designated family stand is unsustainable. I realise kids miss x amount of games during the season (as do adults of course), but people are buying multiple seats and getting transfers into other stands as well. Having a seat empty for 50% of the games and the loss of revenue in the concourses and from pay on the day, is something that we as a club will I'm sure look to address. @phantom is that something along the lines of the issue bout up by the S&T? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamdon Mart Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 When I worked as SLO for YTFC back in the day, was frequently asked what % of seaon ticket holders don't show up on matchdays. Made enquiries with the ticket office manager and at any game, it was always 10-15% of the STH base. Asked a few other clubs and it was pretty much the same there too. If City have 16,000 STH's (IIRC), that would mean (gets calculator out....) between 1,600 and 2,400 no shows every game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komazawa Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 3 hours ago, phantom said: Like mentioned already I'd say it's about supply and demand. Up until very recently we haven't been selling out so tickets have always been available Exactly this. The ability to turn on resale for fans that can't attend a fixture is there. But there needs to be consistent demand for it. If we ever get to the PL, it'll be turned on, as games will sell out far in advance. At the moment, games aren't selling out far enough in advance, or consistently enough, to warrant turning this on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pj76 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Davefevs said: So many empty seats. Not just single seats, almost whole rows. Taken after 39 mins of match. Look at you all comfy in the Lansdown with your prawn sandwich Edited February 3 by pj76 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherrich Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 hours ago, Bazooka Joe said: Based on last night's and other recent performances, many fans will rightly claim they've been sold out. Sold down the road more like it - by the Lansdownes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 hours ago, TV Tom said: We're better off without "fans" like you, i expect we'll find you down at Yeovil being as they're top of their league What a shit post, we'd be better off with fans like you, lapping up unquestionably all the shit that's thrown at us, I know another set of fans in Bristol that do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 minutes ago, Monkeh said: What a shit post, we'd be better off with fans like you, lapping up unquestionably all the shit that's thrown at us, I know another set of fans in Bristol that do that Calm down mate, it was said "tongue in cheek" i appreciate every BCFC fan whether they attend games or just watch from the comfort of their sofa, we all want the same thing and we all share the same frustrations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 55 minutes ago, Davefevs said: So many empty seats. Not just single seats, almost whole rows. Taken after 39 mins of match. Too be honest Dave loads start leaving from 35 minutes onwards and head to the bars, i'm always amazed how many just stand in the concourse watching the game on the TV's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wild Bunch Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 10 minutes ago, TV Tom said: Too be honest Dave loads start leaving from 35 minutes onwards and head to the bars, i'm always amazed how many just stand in the concourse watching the game on the TV's Yep, people were streaming out after 40 mins last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikeysrobins Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) I have no problem with the no shows. I’m a season ticket holder and can’t to every game because I live in London. If I’m one case then there are hundreds, maybe thousands in the same boat as me. Sky of course had much to do with those empty seats on a Friday night!! I have more problems with the fans missing from their seats because the concourse seems to be more entertaining to them. Especially 10 mins before and after half time. It would be interesting to know how many bums were on seats when Leeds scored. On the few occasions I need to go for a pee during match time I am astounded by how many are in the concourse. Why? Why? Isn’t the point to turn up to support your team and watch a game of football? Fair enough if Leeds were 3-0 up before half-time or near the end - although I still don’t why you would leave 5-10 before the end of half-time. The max exodus is embarrassing to watch. We were 0-1 down with 5 minutes left but many left. The game was still finely poised -score wise at least- and yet instead of encouraging your team you headed for the turnstiles. Don’t get it - never will - but hey that’s my opinion. I’m sure you have yours. Edited February 3 by pikeysrobins 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: There is often an exodus 5 mins from HT to beat the queues etc. Would roughly align with 39 mins. 53 minutes ago, pj76 said: Look at you all comfy in the Lansdown with your prawn sandwich Middle row, corporate box level too. Ark at me! Unfortunately we are in section a4, not the Corps! 34 minutes ago, TV Tom said: Too be honest Dave loads start leaving from 35 minutes onwards and head to the bars, i'm always amazed how many just stand in the concourse watching the game on the TV's I should’ve taken another one 2 minutes later when they started streaming out in their masses. I’m not saying a few hadn’t already gone for their h-t pint, but this was prior to to the exodus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkwaymom Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 There are definitely fans who sit around me who simply cannot go 45 mins without access to substances not permitted in the seating area. Some almost never see more than 30 mins per half, but they are generally as enthusiastic as anyone else while present. While I find it baffling, if you need alcohol, nicotine or other substances that much, I don’t think it’s a matter for the seat police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 3 Admin Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, NcnsBcfc said: And it got worse as the game went on. Ultimately (and I say this with 4 STs, including 2 kids ones in the Dolman), the concept of £50 kids STs on the South Stand, while we already have a designated family stand is unsustainable. I realise kids miss x amount of games during the season (as do adults of course), but people are buying multiple seats and getting transfers into other stands as well. Having a seat empty for 50% of the games and the loss of revenue in the concourses and from pay on the day, is something that we as a club will I'm sure look to address. @phantom is that something along the lines of the issue bout up by the S&T? Yes, the club are very aware of the situation, but as this thread shows it's a difficult situation to resolve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 3 hours ago, TV Tom said: We're better off without "fans" like you, i expect we'll find you down at Yeovil being as they're top of their league manual manipulator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickydickiecardigan Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 6 hours ago, Wokingham Red said: I apologise if I’m going over a topic which has been discussed before but it struck me how last night’s “sold out” home game was far from it. There seems to be a big issue with no-shows. What is driving this issue? Of course not all STHs can make every game. I heard a theory last night that people bought an under 12s ST just to get a free shirt and/or to give themselves more space. What could the club do to combat this? Perhaps creating a proper resale platform? Or some kind of enforcement if a season ticket is a no-show for say 3/4 home games in a row. Seems like the club are missing out on an easy win with a resale platform which would generate more ticket and food/drink revenue. I'm a season ticket holder in B Block 260 miles round trip for home games I haven't been able to go the last few games because I fractured my hip! Hopefully be back for Caadiff game ! so your saying club should sell my seat to someone else even though i paid in full at start of season? See you Jim Steve Chris etc for Caadiff game!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back of the Dolman Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 4 minutes ago, trickydickiecardigan said: I'm a season ticket holder in B Block 260 miles round trip for home games I haven't been able to go the last few games because I fractured my hip! Hopefully be back for Caadiff game ! so your saying club should sell my seat to someone else even though i paid in full at start of season? See you Jim Steve Chris etc for Caadiff game!! If they sold it just for the games you can’t make and you benefited with maybe a share of the fee the club sell it for then n your current situation where you’ve had to miss a few games through no fault of your own then you could at least get something back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 29 minutes ago, 2015 said: manual manipulator What does that mean ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 7 minutes ago, TV Tom said: What does that mean ? It’s a forum auto correct when someone types banker with a w 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDarwall Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: It’s a forum auto correct when someone types banker with a w Bankew???? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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