reddogkev Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Without listening to the consistently changing guff that comes out of the club hierarchy, what are the expectations of us, the fans? Personally, I want City to develop and grow as a Championship club, which we are doing, and to get another long overdue crack at the play offs. With that in mind, we're on the right track. We'll definitely get there, my main frustration with the SL ownership is that it's taking far too long to achieve this. Why can other smaller, or similar sized clubs overtake us so quickly? That's the question I can never quite answer. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 To be a modern, progressive football club with a combination of canny recruitment and homegrown talent. This is exactly what the owners want as well, but they seem confused about how to achieve it. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 (edited) 5 minutes ago, reddogkev said: Without listening to the consistently changing guff that comes out of the club hierarchy, what are the expectations of us, the fans With that in mind, we're on the right track. We'll definitely get there, my main frustration with the SL ownership is that it's taking far too long to achieve this. Why can other smaller, or similar sized clubs overtake us so quickly? That's the question I can never quite answer. You've answered your own question! Edited February 6 by CodeRed 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNQ Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 5 minutes ago, reddogkev said: Without listening to the consistently changing guff that comes out of the club hierarchy, what are the expectations of us, the fans? Personally, I want City to develop and grow as a Championship club, which we are doing, and to get another long overdue crack at the play offs. With that in mind, we're on the right track. We'll definitely get there, my main frustration with the SL ownership is that it's taking far too long to achieve this. Why can other smaller, or similar sized clubs overtake us so quickly? That's the question I can never quite answer. Because they’re not being constrained by Lansdown.. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 The one thing for me that is a bare minimum is for the players to put a shift in. I'm quite picky about this because as a Bristol City fan I've watched hundreds of our players not put shifts in over the years. Performances will always go up and down for a variety of reasons but putting a shift in and working hard should always be basic. That's what I was disappointed with against Leeds. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Connection. Pure and simple - the sense that fans, players, management and owners all respect each other and are pulling in the same direction and transacting honestly, working together to be the best they can whatever the level. Thats what I think most fans expect from their club 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abraham Romanovich Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 "The great fallacy is that the game is first and last about winning. It is nothing of the kind. The game is about glory, it is about doing things in style and with a flourish, about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom.” Danny Blanchflower 8 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 6 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: The one thing for me that is a bare minimum is for the players to put a shift in. I'm quite picky about this because as a Bristol City fan I've watched hundreds of our players not put shifts in over the years. Performances will always go up and down for a variety of reasons but putting a shift in and working hard should always be basic. That's what I was disappointed with against Leeds. Wholeheartedly agree with this. Leeds clearly had more skill than us but we lacked any intensity to our game to knock them off their stride Last season and before I would argue that what Luton lack in skill they more than make up for in energy, intensity, commitment and a game plan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattredrobin Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 All I ask every game is the players give 100%. what do I expect every season in terms of positions in the league I think realistically we should be top half Lansdown is a small fish in HUGE pond these days if you compare to the clubs coming down we just can't compete with those clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Trophies, that's the measure of any football club. I dream of seeing us win our first major honour in my lifetime. In the current format, that could only feasibly be a League Cup or FA Cup. So, get promoted, stay up, build a middling Prem squad (see Fulham, Brentford, Brighton), then go one step further and take advantage of a kind cup run to lift one of the domestic competitions. All that said, I'm nearly 30 and am yet to see us lift anything. JPT in 2003 I was too small to take an interest, and the double in 2014-15 I was at ******* uni. Don't stay in school kids. So, I just want to see us break my personal duck asap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Expectation - in the near term, for the club to continue to meander through the Championship. Success is based on producing players for selling on to mediocre tier prem clubs. Hope - The club is sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad blit Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 I find as im getting older (and 20th year as season ticket holder) I care more about the long term protection of the club, and prefer the club to sign youngsters who they can develop and then sell on for good profit in the future. I want the club to progress/improve and have at least one season in the Premier League just so we can see the best players in the world at the Gate, but long term id rather stay in the Championship as i prefer the 'real football' with no prima donna's rolling round after a tackle and no VAR. Maybe iv been spending too long playing Football Manager 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 6 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: Trophies, that's the measure of any football club. I dream of seeing us win our first major honour in my lifetime. In the current format, that could only feasibly be a League Cup or FA Cup. So, get promoted, stay up, build a middling Prem squad (see Fulham, Brentford, Brighton), then go one step further and take advantage of a kind cup run to lift one of the domestic competitions. This. We've seen plenty of clubs our size and smaller become established in the Premier League, and seen a few of those go on to win major trophies (Wigan, Swansea, and Birmingham to name a few). IMO, this is the top end limit of what we could realistically achieve as a football club. Therefore, this should be our aim. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Connection. Pure and simple - the sense that fans, players, management and owners all respect each other and are pulling in the same direction and transacting honestly, working together to be the best they can whatever the level. Thats what I think most fans expect from their club Exactly this for me. We’ve had it in fairly recent times with GJ and Cotts and to a point with Nige under Gould. We couldn’t be further from it at the moment though, in my opinion. Whilst Premier League football would be nice for a bit I’ve actually felt more connected to City in league one than the Championship. Success is great of course, but being part of something meaningful is as good if not better. If we can get that connection and win trophies fantastic! Edited February 6 by One Team 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin101 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Any sort of success now, it’s getting desperate. Trophy or promotion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 45 minutes ago, reddogkev said: Without listening to the consistently changing guff that comes out of the club hierarchy, what are the expectations of us, the fans? Personally, I want City to develop and grow as a Championship club, which we are doing, and to get another long overdue crack at the play offs. With that in mind, we're on the right track. We'll definitely get there, my main frustration with the SL ownership is that it's taking far too long to achieve this. Why can other smaller, or similar sized clubs overtake us so quickly? That's the question I can never quite answer. Are we on the right track? Why will we definitely get there ? Until Lansdown sells the controlling stake in the club, interference, nepotism and cronyism will continue. On that basis, I just want to avoid relegation until the club is run properly. Clubs that overtake us are usually better managed. 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 A club that creates memories. That can be trophy wins or amazing nights like the Man United game. I don’t really care how it comes. And to play attractive football. No burning desire to get to the premier league. And to always have an eye on youth, which we are currently doing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 I just want to see city in the prem and England win the World Cup or euros before I die. I’m 31 now so may have another 60 years in me, don’t fancy my chances of seeing either 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 A joined up plan and strategy, which can see us progress on the pitch... ...Off it, continued work on building the atmosphere and making Ashton Gate feel like our home (The whole away allocation issue for one). 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Sometimes hope and expectations are aligned. Not in the case of Bristol City FC though. My hope is that before the turn of 2024 I can see that we made tangible progress and that we have improved as a team and as a club as a direct result to bring in LM and the 2 transfer windows. With a plan for the next stage of progress. My expectation is that I'm going to be disappointed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 To really be and act like a top 30 club in the country. No reason we cannot By that I mean always challenging for promotion from this league, occasionally making it, being able to thrash teams in this league, not just edge a 1 goaler every third or fourth game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherrich Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 1 hour ago, reddogkev said: Without listening to the consistently changing guff that comes out of the club hierarchy, what are the expectations of us, the fans? Personally, I want City to develop and grow as a Championship club, which we are doing, and to get another long overdue crack at the play offs. With that in mind, we're on the right track. We'll definitely get there, my main frustration with the SL ownership is that it's taking far too long to achieve this. Why can other smaller, or similar sized clubs overtake us so quickly? That's the question I can never quite answer. New owners. Lansdownes out! Fed up with all the bull sh#t they spout off. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 I'm getting pretty much what I expect A mid table Championship team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 6 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: To really be and act like a top 30 club in the country. No reason we cannot By that I mean always challenging for promotion from this league, occasionally making it, being able to thrash teams in this league, not just edge a 1 goaler every third or fourth game We do have a top 30 revenue in the country tbh so I don't see why not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 1 hour ago, Supersonic Robin said: This. We've seen plenty of clubs our size and smaller become established in the Premier League, and seen a few of those go on to win major trophies (Wigan, Swansea, and Birmingham to name a few). IMO, this is the top end limit of what we could realistically achieve as a football club. Therefore, this should be our aim. Yea I see this as our ceiling*. Doesn't take much digging to realise an awful lot of clubs have lifted at least one major (albeit many 50+ years ago when there was less of a gap to the 'big teams'). Would very much like us to join them! *Without Man City/Chelsea esque takeover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Yaga Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 With this team I never expected play offs despite what the board may have spouted to get rid of NP, once the schedule gets a bit less congested I expect to have around 7-12th form until the end of the season. In the coming years would like to see a play off push but we are up against it due to competition (parachute teams and lots of similar sized clubs), no idea if the Manning gamble will work out or not will find out next season. Long term we should be aiming to have an extended run in the premier league like Palace/Brighton currently are having although I doubt I will ever see that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 12 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: To really be and act like a top 30 club in the country. No reason we cannot By that I mean always challenging for promotion from this league, occasionally making it, being able to thrash teams in this league, not just edge a 1 goaler every third or fourth game I previously said that I think our top-end potential is midtable club Premier League who can have a crack at an FA Cup / League Cup. That's never going to be our "steady state" though - i.e. we won't be doing that every year for 40 years. In terms of a steady-state level of performance, I think your suggestion is very reasonable. Some good years at my theoretical top end, some bad years midtable in the Championship, and most of the time somewhere in the middle (i.e. around Championship top 6). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgy Red Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 I might be in the minority but i'm happy to watch us in The Championship. I don't think The Prem is all its cracked up to be and is so heavily obsessed with the Big 6, that it wouldn't be as enjoyable as people think. Don't even get me started on VAR! I would rather see us in a few Cup quarter/semi finals, playing attractive football with a sprinkling of local boys in the team. I think as i've got older its become more about the day with my mates, and while a City defeat still ruins the weekend, i don't feel like i did 30 years ago. I go to games with a number of mates who support other clubs and they all enjoy coming to The Gate and the matchday experience that we have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeez Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 My hope: The club to get acquired by a sovereign wealth fund of a questionable nation - pumped full of the worlds finest players and used as the gold standard in “sports washing” their human right records clean. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Jeez said: My hope: The club to get acquired by a sovereign wealth fund of a questionable nation - pumped full of the worlds finest players and used as the gold standard in “sports washing” their human right records clean. That will constrain clubs in the future as it is now. Even Newcastle can't entirely do what Chelsea, Man City or PSG did..Mike Ashley left a golden fiscal legacy but they are right up against limits. The higher your base level, the easier it is to justify RPTs that enhance your spending power. There are avenues which we can explore right now but they aren't huge gamechangers in the context of FFP and Parachute Payments...this wouldn't be changed by such a takeover. Edited February 6 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 1 hour ago, Natchfever said: Are we on the right track? Why will we definitely get there ? Until Lansdown sells the controlling stake in the club, interference, nepotism and cronyism will continue. On that basis, I just want to avoid relegation until the club is run properly. Clubs that overtake us are usually better managed. i read that as interference,nepotism and CRAYONISM , had a chuckle to myself thinking what a clever insult then read it again oops 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Edgy Red said: I might be in the minority but i'm happy to watch us in The Championship. I don't think The Prem is all its cracked up to be and is so heavily obsessed with the Big 6, that it wouldn't be as enjoyable as people think. Don't even get me started on VAR! I would rather see us in a few Cup quarter/semi finals, playing attractive football with a sprinkling of local boys in the team. I think as i've got older its become more about the day with my mates, and while a City defeat still ruins the weekend, i don't feel like i did 30 years ago. I go to games with a number of mates who support other clubs and they all enjoy coming to The Gate and the matchday experience that we have. If you're not turning up to compete to try and be the best you can be, in a sense what is the point? Ask Luton and Brentford and Burnley for the years they were run well or Sheffield United in their first Wilder season or Swansea in the Rodgers and Laudrup years or I could go on. Sure it can wear thin sure it (the PL) is top heavy and has got worse for it in the last decade maybe, but I do believe a bigger push is needed. I felt under NP and Gould we were on something of a journey. Now we seem to have a number of correct pieces but the leadership is questionable. Edited February 6 by Mr Popodopolous 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Stripe Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 (edited) I don't actually want City to get promoted. It's partly because I despise the Premier League. Although football is incredibly popular in terms of attendance, the money pouring in is distorting the game horribly. I also don't want City to get promoted because we as a club would almost certainly be totally embarrassed week in, week out, both on the field but even more so off of it. Imo the current governance of the club would not survive a season in the Premier League. The fiasco that was Nige's sacking proves it (that and many other shite strategic decisions). God knows where it would all lead. In terms of what I hope for... well, the journey is the destination - the games week by week are the 'thing'. Unfortunately, that ship has sailed for me. I liked where Nige was taking us, my gut feel is that, given time and budget for reinforcements, he would have taken us forward, adding quality to a team of totally committed players. I would have loved to see that team going all-in, week after week. As always, our Top Brass drop a clanger, just as they did when Gary Johnson needed a goal scorer to get us over the line. PS - I have a sneaking suspicion that SL doesn't want us to get promoted either. Edited February 6 by Elmore James slight retardation 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmite Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Hope ......to be entertained and look forward to games for a whole season as per Cotts league one double winning season. (Yes I know, it was only league one but God it was fun). At the moment we only get the occasional 45mins of good stuff. Expectation.......more of what we have now. Basically boring football. I've been watching nearly 70 years and have never felt so disconnected and frustrated about the club. I've seen us in the top flight and bottom of league 3, but this football now is just a yawn fest for me. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wokingham Red Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 I think the hope is always promotion. We have the infrastructure and we have the catchment area. If we were a Premier League team we would sell out Ashton Gate every week without fail. The current challenge is how on earth do we achieve that. The current structure with parachute payments combined with FFP make it incredibly difficult for clubs like us to achieve promotion. In all liklihood Leicester, Leeds and Southampton will go straight back up this season. We've recently seen the quality of one of those teams and over the next few weeks we could easily be on the end of hiding from the other two as well. The gap between those three and the rest of the league is absolutely huge and quite simply insurmountable apart from very odd occasions. Which comes on to the typical examples where others have managed to do it. Brentford and Brighton are good examples. Forest and Luton possibly too but they will probably be back in the Championship by the start of the 25/26 season. In all of those cases they are extremely well run clubs who have recruited well both on and off the pitch. That is not easy to achieve. The Landsowns are far from perfect but we need to appreciate the incredibly difficult task they face. To those who think getting rid of the Lansdowns is the only way to achieve promotion all I say is be careful what you wish for. Given where I live all I hear about are my mates being concerned about if their club (Reading) will soon cease to exist. Being a Bristol City fan in recent years feels a little bit like Groundhog day. Not poor enough to go down, not good enough to go up. Which makes it all a little bit boring. Realistically, the only way we get to the Premier League is if the European Super League happens getting rid of the big money clubs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 What do I hope for? I'm not sure I should say, I think it better for now that I just be careful what I wish for .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 What I find most annoying, is the fact we have the stadium and facilities to get promotion, but we don't have the people in charge to take this club forward on the pitch. Sick of hearing we are a premier team in waiting etc etc blah blah blah. We have done nothing ever in this division to prove on the field we are good enough to go up. Even if we had gone up under GJ through the play offs, we were making such crap decisions back then, we would imo spiralled afterwards. Hate the unjustified expectations. Just become top 10, solid entertaining football, unify the fans, make it more ' our Club' as it feels more plastic again. Get some passion in the ground somehow. Work with the council in making travel, parking etc easier, rather than such a ball ache ( it's the number one reason I stopped my ST) Stop all the bullshit and empty promises. Sometimes I actually look at the Gas and think they have it better. Shit club, no expectations, shit ground...but at least they know that and aren't dieing from hope and bullshit. Since getting promotion to the Championship again, I remember posting at the time, that I hoped we didn't become a middle of the road boring Championship side. To be frank...most games are boring, tedious, not worth the effort. I have more fun these days watching non league footy. Shame. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Wokingham Red said: I think the hope is always promotion. We have the infrastructure and we have the catchment area. If we were a Premier League team we would sell out Ashton Gate every week without fail. The current challenge is how on earth do we achieve that. The current structure with parachute payments combined with FFP make it incredibly difficult for clubs like us to achieve promotion. In all liklihood Leicester, Leeds and Southampton will go straight back up this season. We've recently seen the quality of one of those teams and over the next few weeks we could easily be on the end of hiding from the other two as well. The gap between those three and the rest of the league is absolutely huge and quite simply insurmountable apart from very odd occasions. Which comes on to the typical examples where others have managed to do it. Brentford and Brighton are good examples. Forest and Luton possibly too but they will probably be back in the Championship by the start of the 25/26 season. In all of those cases they are extremely well run clubs who have recruited well both on and off the pitch. That is not easy to achieve. The Landsowns are far from perfect but we need to appreciate the incredibly difficult task they face. To those who think getting rid of the Lansdowns is the only way to achieve promotion all I say is be careful what you wish for. Given where I live all I hear about are my mates being concerned about if their club (Reading) will soon cease to exist. Being a Bristol City fan in recent years feels a little bit like Groundhog day. Not poor enough to go down, not good enough to go up. Which makes it all a little bit boring. Realistically, the only way we get to the Premier League is if the European Super League happens getting rid of the big money clubs. Nottingham Forest are not extremely well run, they are chaoticallly run and have been for years. They pushed once more and in some ways perhaps got a bit lucky with Covid add-backs..they turned down bids for Brennan Johnson after cumulative losses of £48m pre tax in the prior 2 albeit one was Covid impacted years..and they got up. Brentford, Brighton, Luton are yeah. Burnley were, not sure about now. We have Top 10, somewhere between 7th and 10th revenue in the League which means that there is a platform to at least contend for the playoffs. The top 3 going back up, I think that would be unprecedented but then have 3 of such size and strength been relegated at the same time before? Edited February 6 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveInSA Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Hopes - that Lansdown sells the majority share and we get proper people who understand football in to run the club. I don’t want us to really be in the Prem as I have no interest in that at all. Must be competitive in Championship though - and if we go up so be it. Expectations - mid-table mediocrity. AND it would be typical City to get knocked out in the FA cup 1/4 finals this year and be relegated next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richyy66 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 My expectations are to be bigger than Bournemouth, Luton and Brentford and play in the premier league. Until we have an owner that supports this dream we will be a bang average team floating around bottom half to mud table of the championship. For this season at least. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinheadface Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Win lose or draw,the team plays with passion for the badge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 (edited) 12 minutes ago, richyy66 said: My expectations are to be bigger than Bournemouth, Luton and Brentford and play in the premier league. Until we have an owner that supports this dream we will be a bang average team floating around bottom half to mud table of the championship. For this season at least. How do we go about that. The be bigger than those 3 I mean. Bournemouth cheated to get up and have reaped the benefits ever since. Brentford if they drop will be incredibly well placed on every level to go back up and possibly even return stronger. Luton are the ones..having to pay for their new ground could detract from an otherwise strong position. Edited February 6 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stockwood gate Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 If we were a telly show we would be only fools and horses , this time next year we will be millionaires, but rather have that than be a plastic prem team supporter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 To have a team whose achievements aren't a grave disappointment to the city it represents. I could write embarrassment but we're not munter fc from over the river, so lets stick with disappointment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 1 hour ago, redsquirrel said: i read that as interference,nepotism and CRAYONISM , had a chuckle to myself thinking what a clever insult then read it again oops Hahaha Wish i'd thought of that. New word in the otib dictionary methinks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Expectation and hope ? I been watching city since mid Seventies. So seen some incredible highs and lows. Do I think the premier league should be a realistic expectation? Hell yes. Does my head see it happening ? I doubt it. Would a new owner make it possible ? Likely yes. Do I want a foreign ownership ? Definitely not. Any expectation to build a premier league squad has to come with many compromises. Does any of the above effect my support of Bristol City ? Absolutely not. COYR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 1 hour ago, Elmore James said: I don't actually want City to get promoted. It's partly because I despise the Premier League. Although football is incredibly popular in terms of attendance, the money pouring in is distorting the game horribly. I also don't want City to get promoted because we as a club would almost certainly be totally embarrassed week in, week out, both on the field but even more so off of it. Imo the current governance of the club would not survive a season in the Premier League. The fiasco that was Nige's sacking proves it (that and many other shite strategic decisions). God knows where it would all lead. In terms of what I hope for... well, the journey is the destination - the games week by week are the 'thing'. Unfortunately, that ship has sailed for me. I liked where Nige was taking us, my gut feel is that, given time and budget for reinforcements, he would have taken us forward, adding quality to a team of totally committed players. I would have loved to see that team going all-in, week after week. As always, our Top Brass drop a clanger, just as they did when Gary Johnson needed a goal scorer to get us over the line. PS - I have a sneaking suspicion that SL doesn't want us to get promoted either. It’s kinda why I wanted those “big 6” to piss off to the Super League, English football get a reset, and see how things turned out. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Cigar Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 3 hours ago, And Its Smith said: A club that creates memories. That can be trophy wins or amazing nights like the Man United game. I don’t really care how it comes. And to play attractive football. No burning desire to get to the premier league. And to always have an eye on youth, which we are currently doing. This can't be underestimated. There have been few and far between since we got promoted in 2014/15. The first half of 2017/18 was great, the Man U win was an evening we'll never forget. But, there haven't been many in almost 10 years, which is damning. No play off campaign, no fight to get into the play offs in the last few weeks of a season. It's all been very samey and quite turgid. I'm very often bored when watching us, which isn't great. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihai Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 My expectations ? It is feels weird because when I started to be a fan of this team, it was back in League one in 2007. Then it got promoted and in the first season after that we almost made it to the Prem. Since then, we are way worse in terms of a full season performance. We got more money but that didn't changed anything, we got relegated, we spent two season in League One and after that we became a mid table Championship team with only one kind of promising season, and that was under LJ which all of us wanted to leave, but if we look back, we were worse since then ( can be on his mistakes and Ashton but I am speaking about League Position ). I am a bit tired to have expectations, look at this season...we get closer to top 6 and then we play 2 games without a single shot on goal, then we play one half good, 3 halfs horrible. I don't see this team playing in PL very soon and I don't know the reason of it. I am not from Bristol to know everything that happens at the club, things about the ownership and taxes and financial fair play. I know we can't spend a lot of money and I don't know when that will change, if it will change. I would like a different ownership just to see if the things can get better, I would love to not be a feeder club and actually keep our best players or at least buy some experienced player not only player to develop and sell. I would love to see my team playing against the big boys every weekend, and it hurts me when I see Brentford there, when I see Luton Town there...when I see Bournemouth or even Brighton becoming a top 10 team. We had Swansea, we have Shieffield UTD which was almost relegating in League One not long time ago... It is very frustrating especially for a foreignm supporter which is hungry for results because we all know what Premier League means for other contries (the home of football, the best of the best). But I don't like this "arabic ownership" also, it kills the fun it kills the chances for the other teams, this sport easily becomes just a bussiness year after year. That is one of the reasons for us being in the second tier, that is the reason other countries can not go in advanced phases in European Cups. With some lucky we may get to PL and maybe, just maybe...the team will know how to manage and not become a team which travels from PL to Championship every now and then. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 1 hour ago, Elmore James said: PS - I have a sneaking suspicion that SL doesn't want us to get promoted either. You do have to wonder, don't you. Crazy though, because one season in the Prem and he set's the club up for years and virtually negates the need for him to have to put his hand in his pocket as often. Doesn't explain all the acts of self sabotage over the years though. This latest one will probably see us back in level 3 in the next couple of years as well. That's my expectation. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 I want to watch City compete in the Premier League, while I'm still healthy enough to attend Ashton Gate. That's it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 3 hours ago, Silvio Dante said: Connection. Pure and simple - the sense that fans, players, management and owners all respect each other and are pulling in the same direction and transacting honestly, working together to be the best they can whatever the level. Thats what I think most fans expect from their club Think we were in that track before NP was sacked. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 A similar question to this was asked nearly 20 years ago on this very forum. Many people stated they wouldn't like the Prem due to plastic fans, high prices kickoff times and days changing at short notice etc. The overall consensus was for City to be a consistently strong 2nd tier team with a good cup run every few years. Then came that play off final v Hull and everyone's opinion changed to We can do this". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 4 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said: The one thing for me that is a bare minimum is for the players to put a shift in. I'm quite picky about this because as a Bristol City fan I've watched hundreds of our players not put shifts in over the years. Performances will always go up and down for a variety of reasons but putting a shift in and working hard should always be basic. That's what I was disappointed with against Leeds. It wasn't down to a lack of effort unless i watched a different game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 1 hour ago, Edgy Red said: I might be in the minority but i'm happy to watch us in The Championship. I don't think The Prem is all its cracked up to be and is so heavily obsessed with the Big 6, that it wouldn't be as enjoyable as people think. Don't even get me started on VAR! I would rather see us in a few Cup quarter/semi finals, playing attractive football with a sprinkling of local boys in the team. I think as i've got older its become more about the day with my mates, and while a City defeat still ruins the weekend, i don't feel like i did 30 years ago. I go to games with a number of mates who support other clubs and they all enjoy coming to The Gate and the matchday experience that we have. 1 hour ago, Elmore James said: I also don't want City to get promoted because we as a club would almost certainly be totally embarrassed week in, week out, both on the field but even more so off of it. Personally, I think this viewpoint is a bit negative. I don't blame you for that, I think it's the result of supporting a club who have continuously underachieved for many years. But that's the frustrating thing and my main opposition to your points - there's no reason why we can't be a Premier League side who are competitive on the pitch, play reasonably attractive football, and have a sprinkling of academy talent in the team. Equally, avoiding promotion is no guarantee of those things. Unfortuantely, we've seen our side play plenty of embarrassing, unattractive, academy-less matches over the years. Even the point re the Premier League being "top 6 obsessed" - I believe that no Championship team was selected for Sky coverage less than us last season. We're very capable of being a respectable Premier League team, and we're also very capable of being an embarrassing Championship team 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 (edited) 27 minutes ago, glynriley said: You do have to wonder, don't you. Crazy though, because one season in the Prem and he set's the club up for years and virtually negates the need for him to have to put his hand in his pocket as often. Doesn't explain all the acts of self sabotage over the years though. This latest one will probably see us back in level 3 in the next couple of years as well. That's my expectation. Mostly agree albeit how much would be swallowed up by fresh wages, fresh fees etc. Putting aside breakeven at Profit and Loss level, if SL sticks in £15-20m or £10m a season...we'd have to hold back £10m, £15-20m of the cash in order for SL to have a year off. Sensible business on relegation could extend it. Maybe promotion would help to enable a sale too. Parachute Payments last for 2 years if instantly relegated, 3 if not. They also drastically drop by Year 3. Central Award: 55%:45%:20% Edited February 6 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 8 minutes ago, Super said: It wasn't down to a lack of effort unless i watched a different game. I think most will disagree with you here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Just to see us in another Play-off campaign at this level would be a start. Getting to the play off final in 2008 was fantastic albeit we didn't go all the way but to have never got back to the play-offs at this level is shocking IMO considering the investment and money spent on playing staff amd facilities over the last 16 years. Walking out of Wembley after losing to Hull in 2008 me and the old man both said it would be a while untill we are back challenging to reach the topflight.. 16 years later and it feels further away then ever. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Stripe Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 (edited) 38 minutes ago, glynriley said: You do have to wonder, don't you. Crazy though, because one season in the Prem and he set's the club up for years and virtually negates the need for him to have to put his hand in his pocket as often. Doesn't explain all the acts of self sabotage over the years though. This latest one will probably see us back in level 3 in the next couple of years as well. That's my expectation. Aye. Imo, maybe SL is currently in his comfort zone. Secondly, at the Premier League level, the operations would need to step up to a whole new level and that would mean SL relinquishing some control to people who can operate at that level, and SL doesn't seem to be the relinquishing of power kind of guy. This is all speculation obviously but yeah, as you think back to all the 'close but not quite' of our time in the Championship, almost snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, plus the canning of Nige, as you wrote, you do have to wonder. Edited February 6 by Elmore James English isn't my first language 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelksRed Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 I'd love to see us financially secure (ie profitable) with a good depth in the squad with decent players (meant for whichever level we are in) who care deeply for the shirt, would run through walls for success. Success in this context is stable performances and edging toward silverware of some description. In addition, a good range of ticket prices to ensure that all can afford to continue supporting. Right, off to water the Unicorns and let the pigs out to fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 1 hour ago, W-S-M Seagull said: I think most will disagree with you here. No way were they not trying. I think that’s a simplistic and naive viewpoint. They weren’t playing with confidence but nothing to say they weren’t committed. I think @Super view would be in the majority here 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS Red Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Not to get relegated and entertaining football. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club and Country Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Not sure if said, and I wouldn't care how we got there or how it happened (success would be only way) but one season in Europe, 3 away trips watching city in Europe that's what I want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddarwedlocker Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 6 hours ago, mozo said: To be a modern, progressive football club with a combination of canny recruitment and homegrown talent. The amount of times that word has been said since manning came in has really started to bug me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 6 hours ago, Abraham Romanovich said: "The great fallacy is that the game is first and last about winning. It is nothing of the kind. The game is about glory, it is about doing things in style and with a flourish, about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom.” Danny Blanchflower Abraham R is a big Spurs fan though he isn't biased? So just for him, here's a tale from 1961. In 1960-61 Spurs did the League and Cup double with a fabulous team. In end September I went by train to Paddington en route to Southend United where City were playing on a Monday evening. I met Fred Ford on the train and we talked football all the way to London. He suggested that, as I could stay with relatives in London, that I go to Spurs to get a ticket for the second leg of the first round European Cup against Gornik of Poland who won the first leg 3-1. When I got to the garden shed (ticket office) at White Hart Lane they said it was already a sell out. I had my City scarf on and I was asked which club? I told them about my journey with Ford and said he told me to get a ticket. The guy went to the back of the shed and brought me a complimentary ticket for the terracing called The Shelf. He said the ticket was for Mr Ford but if I didn't get it to him at Southend, I could use it instead. Wednesday evening in a crowd of approx 65,000 I saw a fantastic display by Spurs who won 8-1 in the night. Players like Blanchflower, Medwin, Smith and brilliant Scotsman midfielder John White. That was 63 years ago and I remember it as if it was yesterday. One of many great match memories. PS. I detested Spurs when the knocked us out of FA and League Cup matches because I want City to win every time. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 An owner who understands football and the business side. Someone who is strategic in their thinking and will employ the right people for the job. I would expect BCFC to get promoted within the next 3-5 years, and see where it takes us. This never never / treading water approach is getting tedious. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Island Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 I just want to see fast paced entertaining football i know its boring always looking back but from my seat in b block dolman how i yearn for the days of tinman and scotty as soon as the ball was played to tins the dolmoan would rise as one everyone knew what was going to happen tins would play the ball down the wing scotty would scorch past all defenders and wallop it into the roof of the net how yearn to see something similar now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 (edited) 7 hours ago, reddogkev said: Without listening to the consistently changing guff that comes out of the club hierarchy, what are the expectations of us, the fans? Personally, I want City to develop and grow as a Championship club, which we are doing, and to get another long overdue crack at the play offs. With that in mind, we're on the right track. We'll definitely get there, my main frustration with the SL ownership is that it's taking far too long to achieve this. Why can other smaller, or similar sized clubs overtake us so quickly? That's the question I can never quite answer. Can you say why you think we are on the right track? Interested to hear your view on this. Edit: Apologies if you have already done so, can’t be bothered to read through everything. Edited February 6 by formerly known as ivan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Hope: New owners. Expectation: I will get less and less interested. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 8 hours ago, reddogkev said: Without listening to the consistently changing guff that comes out of the club hierarchy, what are the expectations of us, the fans? Personally, I want City to develop and grow as a Championship club, which we are doing, and to get another long overdue crack at the play offs. With that in mind, we're on the right track. We'll definitely get there, my main frustration with the SL ownership is that it's taking far too long to achieve this. Why can other smaller, or similar sized clubs overtake us so quickly? That's the question I can never quite answer. Depends over what timescale you mean. I don’t just want us to have a crack at the play offs. I haven’t spent 40 years supporting this club just to watch us lose a two legged tie against Ipswich Town or whoever. I want us to achieve what Luton, Blackpool, Huddersfield and countless other clubs smaller than us have managed; promotion to the Premier League. We really need to set our sights higher than merely “reaching the play offs”. PS - I’m far from convinced we’ll “definitely get there”. I can’t see many reasons to think we won’t just being mid table for the rest of eternity. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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