Bobby kellard hero Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Switched to a 12.30 ko 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Least surprising news ever. Why even bother letting it get this close, maybe hoping the TV would choose a stupid time first. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Does this stop anyone looking for trouble? Afaik, they just start drinking earlier 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 6 minutes ago, Unan said: Does this stop anyone looking for trouble? Afaik, they just start drinking earlier I don't think the Police have twigged on early opening or take away cans and bottle yet. Keep that to yourself though. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bearded_red Posted February 13 Popular Post Share Posted February 13 Full credit to the swift and efficient work of Avon and Somerset police, the fixture list only came out in June after all. 3 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Cuz it was always gonna be 3PM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Great news (NOT) for anyone who has booked trains or rearranged work/childcare etc to get to this game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 ****ing great, another game I’ll be missing then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolisredd Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 44 minutes ago, alexukhc said: Cuz it was always gonna be 3PM Actually - the away fixture was . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 How will this work for people who have booked hospitality? Will they swap lunch for breakfast? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 39 minutes ago, RedLionLad said: Great news (NOT) for anyone who has booked trains or rearranged work/childcare etc to get to this game This…..booked my trains a couple of weeks ago! Our game there was 3pm and so why do A&S request a change to KO time, less than 3 weeks before the game when they were announced over 6 months ago!l? Clueless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 13 Admin Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, bearded_red said: Full credit to the swift and efficient work of Avon and Somerset police, the fixture list only came out in June after all. I'm pretty sure that the police get the fixture list before they are published so they can have input on things like this It is especially disappointing because on a previous SC&T monthly meeting it was stated that Swansea was seen as the only flashpoint fixture, so the question has to be asked why this changes just 18 days before kick off The next monthly meeting will be interesting to hear an explanation 9 minutes ago, RedLionLad said: How will this work for people who have booked hospitality? Will they swap lunch for breakfast? I also wonder how many will not fancy it now, it's not quiet the same having a buffet breakfast compared to an actual lunch 2 minutes ago, Loosey Boy said: This…..booked my trains a couple of weeks ago! Our game there was 3pm and so why do A&S request a change to KO time, less than 3 weeks before the game when they were announced over 6 months ago!l? Clueless! As above, I will ensure the question is asked to the A&S representative that attends 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Reckon they were hoping Sky would pick it up rather than them having to make the call. Far too close to the date of fixture to make a change like this. Makes no difference to me whatsoever, but lots if impacted groups, ie those that travel, kids teams matches, etc. Piss poor. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 2 minutes ago, phantom said: I'm pretty sure that the police get the fixture list before they are published so they can have input on things like this It is especially disappointing because on a previous SC&T monthly meeting it was stated that Swansea was seen as the only flashpoint fixture, so the question has to be asked why this changes just 18 days before kick off The next monthly meeting will be interesting to hear an explanation I also wonder how many will not fancy it now, it's not quiet the same having a buffet breakfast compared to an actual lunch As above, I will ensure the question is asked to the A&S representative that attends Thanks @phantom - can you see if A&S will provide a refund on my train travel, now that I have to make alternative travel arrangements on the day?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 2.5 weeks is a nonsense. Safety Advisory Group strike again..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 keeping it at 3pm away earlier in the season, made absolutely no difference to anything. Showed there’s no need to move it any earlier or later. It’s been proven. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) 2 minutes ago, petehinton said: keeping it at 3pm away earlier in the season, made absolutely no difference to anything. Showed there’s no need to move it any earlier or later. It’s been proven. Correct. Any notion OB have of an earlier kick off reducing FV is ridiculous. It’s been proven over the last several seasons (even Cardiff away last season) to make no difference, especially as a lot of it these days isn’t fuelled by alcohol and that which is is easily worked around. Edited February 13 by One Team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full nelson Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) The police make these last minute changes on purpose knowing people have made plans, booked transport for a 3pm KO. They hate football fans. Edited February 13 by Full nelson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 All 3 home matches in March are now 12.30pm kick offs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 45 minutes ago, Bristolisredd said: Actually - the away fixture was . Yep. This is what pisses me off. No issues as well apart from those caused by Heddlu at the station! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloudyThatchers Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 minute ago, eardun said: All 3 home matches in March are now 12.30pm kick offs. Yep and only 3 home Saturday games with a 3pm left this season I guess it's easing us into how next season will be with the new TV deal starting. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 minute ago, CloudyThatchers said: I guess it's easing us into how next season will be with the new TV deal starting. Exactly what I was thinking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of his pie crust Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 7 minutes ago, CloudyThatchers said: Yep and only 3 home Saturday games with a 3pm left this season I guess it's easing us into how next season will be with the new TV deal starting. Yeah true it will be worse than this next season when we’re in the prem. Every silver lining …. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 19 minutes ago, Full nelson said: The police make these last minute changes on purpose knowing people have made plans, booked transport for a 3pm KO. They hate football fans. Yep, intrigued to know why the change has been made so late though……normally, these decisions are made more than a month in advance……shouldn’t be allowed so close to the game. Hopefully, @phantom can get to the bottom of it for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pip King Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 In all fairness to the Avon & Somerset, they were very preoccupied with protecting all their officers who'd been accused of sexual assault 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHRIDGE BCFC Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 18 minutes ago, eardun said: All 3 home matches in March are now 12.30pm kick offs. After QPR in 4 days our next home fixture kicking off at 3pm on a Saturday is the Huddersfield game on April 13th! We only have 2 Saturday 3pm kick offs for the rest of the season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Been planning this trip for ages to tie in with a family birthday. 7 of us coming up from Devon on the Train. We were expecting an early kick off request and so left it as late as we could also bearing in mind possible / probable Train Strikes. The A&S Rozzers decide to make the request less than 3 weeks before the match day. Do they actually give any thought to anything? Please, please tell me there aren't any ridiculous Marches in the City Centre that they are trying to avoid. I will proper lose my sh!t if it has anything to do with this. Had to change all of the tickets and of course there was a fee to do so on each ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Reckon they were hoping Sky would pick it up rather than them having to make the call. Far too close to the date of fixture to make a change like this. Makes no difference to me whatsoever, but lots if impacted groups, ie those that travel, kids teams matches, etc. Piss poor. If that's what they were doing (and I agree it's very possible), Sky announced their selections for that weekend on the 2nd Feb. So they've left it another week and a half after that before announcing a change to the time. Not good enough, and I reckon the club making it very clear in their tweet that it's a police request shows their feelings on the matter. Edited February 13 by Northern Red 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 7 minutes ago, Northern Red said: If that's what they were doing (and I agree it's very possible), Sky announced their selections for that weekend on the 2nd Feb. So they've left it another week and a half after that before announcing a change the time. Not good enough, and I reckon the club making it very clear in their tweet that it's a police request shows their feelings on the matter. Yeah, total guess but can imagine them seeing the Sky fixtures and thinking - shit, they haven’t picked up, better get on to it sharpish 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippin cider Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Maybe they’re hoping to save the toilets …. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 14 minutes ago, Northern Red said: If that's what they were doing (and I agree it's very possible), Sky announced their selections for that weekend on the 2nd Feb. So they've left it another week and a half after that before announcing a change to the time. Not good enough, and I reckon the club making it very clear in their tweet that it's a police request shows their feelings on the matter. Safety Advisory Group or Police expressly? We all know that the Safety Advisory Group, formerly Heather Clarke was one name but dunno whether still applicable, don't like scrutiny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Safety Advisory Group or Police expressly? We all know that the Safety Advisory Group, formerly Heather Clarke was one name but dunno whether still applicable, don't like scrutiny. The club specifically say police. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Just now, Northern Red said: The club specifically say police. It can all be batched in together, Police sit on the SAG etc but feels like something they would have the Casting Vote on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 4 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Yeah, total guess but can imagine them seeing the Sky fixtures and thinking - shit, they haven’t picked up, better get on to it sharpish You’re spot on there Dave. We all know that City v both Swansea and Cardiff have a history going back years of football violence between fans and we’d all expect the matches to be a 12:30pm ko but as others have said why have A&S police left it so late? Hopefully Phants can feed back after the next SC&T meeting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) The arrogant we know best p****s need a bit of a light shining IMO. Safety Advisory Group have been a joke for years. No Minutes in the public domain published since summer 2014 speaks utter volumes. Who do they work for, who do they think they are. Jumped up individuals. Still the Council are, have been a shower of S*** for years so don't expect anything better. Edited February 13 by Mr Popodopolous 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Under 21 final score ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 This is outrageous. The dynamic with these public bodies is round the wrong way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 13 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: The arrogant we know best p****s need a bit of a light shining IMO. Safety Advisory Group have been a joke for years. No Minutes in the public domain published since summer 2014 speaks utter volumes. Who do they won't for, who do they think they are. Jumped up ponces. Still the Council are, have been a shower of S*** for years so don't expect anything better. Tell us how you really feel Mr Pops By the way, I 100% agree with you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Nephew plays footy in morning now misses one or other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everreddy Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 If fans want regular 3pm kick offs, then they should stop kicking off…. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 25 minutes ago, everreddy said: If fans want regular 3pm kick offs, then they should stop kicking off…. Perhaps the oh so superior SAG should address the public and their reasons. It's a relatively useless Police and a sack of shit Local Authority here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerox6060 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Disgraceful decision at this late hour ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 2 hours ago, CloudyThatchers said: Yep and only 3 home Saturday games with a 3pm left this season I guess it's easing us into how next season will be with the new TV deal starting. This will negatively impact season card sales for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 40 minutes ago, pillred said: This will negatively impact season card sales for sure. Or more empty seats, i.e. season tickets still purchased but more matches missed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecko Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, everreddy said: If fans want regular 3pm kick offs, then they should stop kicking off…. This isn't the point though is it. The point is they have changed KO time less than 3 weeks before the game. Also, wasn't the reverse tie 3pm? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepywall Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 The early ko didn't stop the problems at the West Brom/Wolves game the other week...just means some will drink from cans and sniff some coke a bit earlier than normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 13 Admin Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, everreddy said: If fans want regular 3pm kick offs, then they should stop kicking off…. When was the last time there were problems with Cardiff in Bristol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 6 minutes ago, phantom said: When was the last time there were problems with Cardiff in Bristol? How about when they trashed the toilets in the Atyeo? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 FFS! I've booked my coach tickets and made plans. It's not as if they've had 8 months to make this decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Shadow Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 15 minutes ago, pillred said: How about when they trashed the toilets in the Atyeo? What difference does it make if they trash them at 12.30 or 3.00? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Red Shadow said: What difference does it make if they trash them at 12.30 or 3.00? The question was when were there any problems with Cardiff? That was the last time. Edited February 13 by pillred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 13 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: FFS! I've booked my coach tickets and made plans. It's not as if they've had 8 months to make this decision. Share your pain @exAtyeoMax - booked my train travel a few weeks ago, assuming that the KO wouldn’t be changed at such short notice. How wrong was I ! A&S Police have a lot to answer for - don’t hold out much hope for knowing why such a late change has been made but I, along with you and many others will I’m sure, like to know why it’s been moved with less than 3 weeks before the game. Bearing in mind we played there at 3pm, what makes a game in Bristol, needing to be policed differently? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 47 minutes ago, Loosey Boy said: Share your pain @exAtyeoMax - booked my train travel a few weeks ago, assuming that the KO wouldn’t be changed at such short notice. How wrong was I ! A&S Police have a lot to answer for - don’t hold out much hope for knowing why such a late change has been made but I, along with you and many others will I’m sure, like to know why it’s been moved with less than 3 weeks before the game. Bearing in mind we played there at 3pm, what makes a game in Bristol, needing to be policed differently? someone on X mentioned peace marches, I don't know if that is the reason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 If the news only came out today someone got the posters printed quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 https://www.bcfc.co.uk/match-centre/fixtures/bristol-city-vs-cardiff-city-10/ Still says 3pm on the OS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 On 13/02/2024 at 14:26, phantom said: I'm pretty sure that the police get the fixture list before they are published so they can have input on things like this It is especially disappointing because on a previous SC&T monthly meeting it was stated that Swansea was seen as the only flashpoint fixture, so the question has to be asked why this changes just 18 days before kick off The next monthly meeting will be interesting to hear an explanation I also wonder how many will not fancy it now, it's not quiet the same having a buffet breakfast compared to an actual lunch As above, I will ensure the question is asked to the A&S representative that attends Ask them on what grounds , there has hardly been any incidents of note for a while with Cardiff home or away , there seems to be more problems with Swansea over the last 5 years , this stinks of change for change sake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 On 13/02/2024 at 16:54, everreddy said: If fans want regular 3pm kick offs, then they should stop kicking off…. Please tell me when it last kicked off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 On 13/02/2024 at 19:23, pillred said: The question was when were there any problems with Cardiff? That was the last time. That has nothing to do with time though , wasn’t that a 1230 kick off aswell , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 12 hours ago, redkev said: That has nothing to do with time though , wasn’t that a 1230 kick off aswell , At the risk of repeating myself(I am) the question was when WAS the last time there was trouble with Cardiff? not does it make any difference what time the game started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedontplayinblue Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 On 13/02/2024 at 16:09, Mr Popodopolous said: The arrogant we know best p****s need a bit of a light shining IMO. Safety Advisory Group have been a joke for years. No Minutes in the public domain published since summer 2014 speaks utter volumes. Who do they work for, who do they think they are. Jumped up individuals. Still the Council are, have been a shower of S*** for years so don't expect anything better. Go on Mr P, don’t sit on the fence, let it all out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmite Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 If I understand it right it says at the REQUEST of the police. Can the club not just refuse to move the ko time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 14 minutes ago, marmite said: If I understand it right it says at the REQUEST of the police. Can the club not just refuse to move the ko time? No. Not unless they want to play it without any fans there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) Quote Bristol City has apologised to its fans, and fans of Cardiff City for changing the time of the kick-off of the upcoming Severnside Derby - and admitted it should have told fans earlier. ... Quote Bristol Live understands the match being moved to an earlier kick-off time is the result of a request of the police, but that request was made last summer, soon after the fixture list was first published. The switch wasn't made then, because the clubs involved wanted to wait to see if it was picked by Sky Sports to be a televised game, which could have necessitated another change itself with the game potentially being moved to the Friday evening, Saturday evening or Sunday afternoon. ... Quote A Bristol City spokesperson said: “We apologise to Bristol City and Cardiff City fans for the shorter than usual notice of the kick-off time change for the fixture on March 2. Ourselves, Cardiff City and the EFL decided to wait until the broadcast selections for March before confirming the kick-off time change to 12.30pm in case this game was selected for broadcast and the scheduled matchday and/or kick-off time had to be changed. “The broadcast selections were announced on February 2 and this game was not selected for broadcast. However, we recognise that the change to a 12.30pm kick-off for safety reasons should have been communicated to supporters earlier. We will continue to look at improving communication to fans and hope they are not too inconvenienced by this kick-off change," he added. https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/bristol-city-apologises-fans-over-9100889 Poor show from the clubs and the EFL here. Edited February 15 by View from the Dolman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Londoner Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 8 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: ... ... https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/bristol-city-apologises-fans-over-9100889 Poor show from the clubs and the EFL here. So unless I’m misreading it the club basically lied with its initial communications to place the blame on the police rather than not bothering to tell anyone until less than 3 weeks before the game Can we therefore assume waiting for tv games are announced was an attempt to shift the blame onto sky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) That's pisspoor. At the very least, they should be looking at compensating people who've booked trains etc. Of course they're under no obligation to, but it would be an acknowledgment that they've messed people about. Edited February 15 by Northern Red 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 2 minutes ago, East Londoner said: So unless I’m misreading it the club basically lied with its initial communications to place the blame on the police rather than not bothering to tell anyone until less than 3 weeks before the game Can we therefore assume waiting for tv games are announced was an attempt to shift the blame onto sky? Looks that way. It was just utterly dishonest to ever pretend it was a 3pm kick-off. Everyone but the fans knew that it wouldn't be a 3pm kick-off when tickets went on sale in January (as per https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/march-home-fixtures-set-for-priority-sale/). It's just plain dishonest and deceitful. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 6 minutes ago, East Londoner said: So unless I’m misreading it the club basically lied with its initial communications to place the blame on the police rather than not bothering to tell anyone until less than 3 weeks before the game Can we therefore assume waiting for tv games are announced was an attempt to shift the blame onto sky? So what would have happened if sky had picked it for a Friday evening kick off? Would that then have been the trigger to announce kick off change time ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 They’ve had an absolute shocker here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooRya Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) Surely it would have made much more sense to change the kick off time months ago to 12.30 subject to TV listings Edited February 15 by ooRya 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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