1960maaan Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 3 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: I think he feels the pressure so he wants our best players back in the team. LJ and DH used to do the same. That's a good point . You would like to think he'd be strong enough and confident in his coaching to not do that, but clearly Pring isn't 100% , I'd love to hear how Manning explains dropping Roberts after a weeks break. I'd expect 2 changes at half time , both down the left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 First half observations. It’s been a very underwhelming and stuttering Bristol City performance. The first goal looked like a carbon copy of the one against QPR the week before. Rob Dickie picks up a yellow card from our throwing because there were no options for the thrower. AM hasn’t been in the game at all and on the couple of occasions he’s had the ball he’s given it away. CP is either injured or not fit. He made a halfhearted attempt to pull his player back on 38 minutes, usually he’d be busting a gut to chase him. I think he will be replaced at half time. When we have had the ball we have made poor decisions, been indecisive, or had no decent options. The only bright moment was a great goal from Jason Knight. All in all I feel sorry for the 1100 or so fans who have made that journey to watch that 45 minutes. SW look fitter, more inventive and have a much greater desire than us. Unless things change radically, this is going to end badly as we very much don’t look like scoring. Whereas every time they come forward they look a threat, partly thanks to our lack of communication and the amount of time and space we are giving them. This last point, I think was well illustrated by their second goal. It looked from the camera angle like we could let the ball go rather than head it away. I think it would’ve rolled out for a goal kick, but there was presumably no communication which led to a weak defensive header that went straight to one of their players and two seconds later we are 2-1 down. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Well thats 135 mins in a row of depressing football we've managed. God help us if it ends up 180. So frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonred Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just think fans were talking about the play offs 10 days ago 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 2 minutes ago, Tim Monaghan said: Have we lost the game then? Half time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Tootle Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 5 minutes ago, Fpcity said: Was he a player Pearson actually wanted? I've often wondered this too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 We are in a cut throat division with two clubs already getting rid of underachieving newly appointed managers. This would never been my default position, more give a manager a long term contract and let him get on with it. Ideally this would have been Pearson though With this guy there appears to be zero improvement, going backwards so it's only right his position is questioned But ultimately all my hate and disrespect is focused on the Lansdown family and their arse licking Geordie sidekick 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 9 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Pring and Mehmeti have to be hooked at half time, Roberts and Mebude on. Pring is clearly not ready and Mehmeti is just shit. I'd like to disagree, but I'm not sure I can. If Mebude comes on he'll have to play much better than he played last time to have any impact. I'll add that Sykes looks off it as well. I suppose you could say that for a few of them. It looks like a parks game, and we look like the team that is more hungover. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rs Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 If this balding process obsessed numpty keeps a clearly unfit cam pring on for the second half I’ll go mental Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Island Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 9 minutes ago, Randy Marsh II said: Hmm slowly coming closer to making my mind up on this manager tbh I already have 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham76 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 I didnt think it could get any worse than last week, but this has been absolute dross. Manning is tactically inept 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Hampton Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 All I can say is it’s slightly better than the QPR performance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAWS Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 I think what we all concluded before was that NP was best utilising the squad at his disposal. It seems Mannings style is too adventurous for the squad at his disposal and don't rely on lansclown to put that right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Tim Monaghan said: Have we lost the game then? We haven’t and we could still win it if he changes something at half time. The fact is however we’ve played 135 minutes of utter shite against two of the worst sides in the division. It’s not good enough. Like I say, unless it does change, we are heading for 9 points in our latest block of ten games. That cannot be excused or defended. Edited February 24 by Numero Uno 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 It’s not about the end result at Hillsborough , we aren’t going up or down but much more for me (Across current and future games) whether we are looking a better side ,with clear signs of something coming together , good coaching , decisions and game management, and the indicators for next season. Thats the important debate surely ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Can we replace Manning with Naismith? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAWS Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 We were doing OK. NP just needed to be backed 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 2 minutes ago, Banjo Island said: I already have Gonna tell us which way you are leaning? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 8 minutes ago, Andrew_V1 said: If manning truly rates mehmeti then I wouldn’t trust his judgement with a transfer budget in the summer. Nige wasn’t wrong in leaving him out he’s absolutely out of his depth at this level…a show pony with very little to show. Perhaps he’s been very well behaved though when looking at patterns or some other nonsense Couldn’t agree more. He isn’t alone in being poor today, but he has offered very little in all the games he’s played, I just don’t get it and would genuinely love to hear what Manning sees in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, JP Hampton said: All I can say is it’s slightly better than the QPR performance I wouldn't like to have to limbo under that bar :laugh:. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Tootle Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 12 minutes ago, nickolas said: Once again we concede more goals with a back 3. This blokes the new LJ-Tinkerman i tell you. A coaching-manual coach trying to be too clever once again. FFS. Yeah he's like a cross between him and odriscoll. Box entries, behaviours, being brave and trying to do the right things...couldn't care less tbh, it's a results business and it feels like we are going backwards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 6 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said: Wherever you are with Manning, this game needs a reaction from the first whistle of the 2nd half. 4 4 2 for me and go direct. **** any pretty stuff. I very much doubt he will change it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, Numero Uno said: We haven’t and we could still win it if he changes something at half time. The fact is however is we’ve played 135 minutes of utter shite against two of the worst sides in the division. It’s not good enough. Like I say, unless it does change, we are heading for 9 points in our latest block of ten games. That cannot be excused or defended. Ah but we’ve had time on the grass . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlanta_Red Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 8 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: We sacked Pearson for this. “They” sacked him. We didn’t. 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) Pring and Sykes subbed Edited February 24 by Sheltons Army Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 4 minutes ago, George Rs said: If this balding process obsessed numpty keeps a clearly unfit cam pring on for the second half I’ll go mental Top sledging! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfitInMyPocket Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Remember when we used to have one of the best defensive records in the league? Look so brittle now. Been bailed out by a wonder header by Knight. We were told when LM came in he wanted to instil patterns and behaviours to the team. Do the same things over and over until it works. And looks like we've been found out again. Going to be a tough second half, gotta go for it. Thrown away the high press and endeavour for something we just aren't and won't be. Going to have to change half the squad to play the fluffy possession football. They are fighting for their lives and putting in what's required. Our season has been over for a while now. No way near the finished article. When we play the basketball end-to-end high press football and put our opponents under pressure I enjoy watching it. But it seems that the head coach doesn't want us to play that way. He reverts to type with the patterns and behaviours and these are the performances we get. So flat. Manning is a likeable guy but for me personally his football isn't. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 7 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said: Wherever you are with Manning, this game needs a reaction from the first whistle of the 2nd half. 4 4 2 for me and go direct. **** any pretty stuff. Not sure it would help us so much tbh, I get the sentiment sometimes you need to strip it all back and throw a lot at it but reckon we lose even with that change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) I paid their striker a disservice for their 2nd goal, that was some header. How on earth is Annis still on? He was shite! Edited February 24 by Ska Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 Just watched their second goal again, we were passively chasing shadows and I don’t think Knighty needed to head it (needed a shout to leave it) or maybe even head it out for a corner. Poor from us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 6 minutes ago, Jerseybean said: First half observations. It’s been a very underwhelming and stuttering Bristol City performance. The first goal looked like a carbon copy of the one against QPR the week before. Rob Dickie picks up a yellow card from our throwing because there were no options for the thrower. AM hasn’t been in the game at all and on the couple of occasions he’s had the ball he’s given it away. CP is either injured or not fit. He made a halfhearted attempt to pull his player back on 38 minutes, usually he’d be busting a gut to chase him. I think he will be replaced at half time. When we have had the ball we have made poor decisions, been indecisive, or had no decent options. The only bright moment was a great goal from Jason Knight. All in all I feel sorry for the 1100 or so fans who have made that journey to watch that 45 minutes. SW look fitter, more inventive and have a much greater desire than us. Unless things change radically, this is going to end badly as we very much don’t look like scoring. Whereas every time they come forward they look a threat, partly thanks to our lack of communication and the amount of time and space we are giving them. This last point, I think was well illustrated by their second goal. It looked from the camera angle like we could let the ball go rather than head it away. I think it would’ve rolled out for a goal kick, but there was presumably no communication which led to a weak defensive header that went straight to one of their players and two seconds later we are 2-1 down. Condensed version We've been utterly shite. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashton Fete Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, Countryfile said: Couldn’t agree more. He isn’t alone in being poor today, but he has offered very little in all the games he’s played, I just don’t get it and would genuinely love to hear what Manning sees in him. Just doesn’t work hard enough, avoids 50:50 tackles, gets caught out of position and over 90 minutes doesn’t offer enough He might get the odd goal or assist in a game or a nice bit of skill but that’s about it on a consistent level 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 24 Admin Share Posted February 24 4 minutes ago, JAWS said: We were doing OK. NP just needed to be backed Do we really have to go over this again...... Zzzzzzz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rs Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Switched to a 3atb. Sykes -> Mccrorie Pring -> Roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just now, Mr Popodopolous said: Not sure it would help us so much tbh, I get the sentiment sometimes you need to strip it all back and throw a lot at it but reckon we lose even with that change. Alternative? Keep patient? Latter implies doing something well already. Not so, tine to keep it simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellist Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 At least he's tried to make a change. But will the performance improve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galley is our king Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, phantom said: Do we really have to go over this again...... I just don't have the words to express how much I like this post! YES! Truth hurting? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firstyardleftinbed Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Not a great first half. We look very slow and Kal is completely right on commentary in that there is no movement up top at all. It just looks like we're going through the motions and no intensity at all, especially poor showing for the ball and trying to impose any sort of tempo on the game. Conway could have done more at times but even if he does get hold of it, Sykes and Mehmeti are nowhere. Cam also looks well off the pace, wouldn't be surprised to see a few subs at ht. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, phantom said: Do we really have to go over this again...... I just don't have the words to express how much I like this post! Perhaps not, but watching shite like this makes people angry and frustrated.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Already passing across the back and Max lumping it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin101 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, Ska Junkie said: I paid their striker a disservice for their 2nd goal, that was some header. How on earth is Annis still on? He was shite! Has he been anything other than ranging from anonymous to frustrating in his career here? Manning continuing to pick him really makes me question Manning. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pippintogg Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Sloppy and predictable first half. Pring looked unfit as does Sykes. Vyner slow to react for both goals. Need a better 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 7 minutes ago, George Rs said: If this balding process obsessed numpty keeps a clearly unfit cam pring on for the second half I’ll go mental Baldist! Luckily, those of us that are folically challenged are old enough not to be offended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinforlife2 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 who's in the studio? Scottish lad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme Shelton Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 2 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: Pring and Sykes subbed To play a patently unfit duo is a very poor managerial decision. It's not as if we had to play untried youngsters if they didn't start. I am annoyed!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 2 minutes ago, George Rs said: Switched to a 3atb. Sykes -> Mccrorie Pring -> Roberts Mehmeti obviously did enough to warrant staying on the pitch…FFS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algenon2007 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Max Oleary is not a championship goalie. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, The Original OTIB said: Alternative? Keep patient? Latter implies doing something well already. Not so, tine to keep it simple. Something between the 2. It feels good but I doubt it would work so well, as in chances are we would lose anyway and or lose midfield a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just now, algenon2007 said: Max Oleary is not a championship goalie. He is you know, quite literally. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rs Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Looks a bit better, two good crosses into the box just no one onto them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 4 minutes ago, ProfitInMyPocket said: Remember when we used to have one of the best defensive records in the league? Look so brittle now. Been bailed out by a wonder header by Knight. We were told when LM came in he wanted to instil patterns and behaviours to the team. Do the same things over and over until it works. And looks like we've been found out again. Going to be a tough second half, gotta go for it. Thrown away the high press and endeavour for something we just aren't and won't be. Going to have to change half the squad to play the fluffy possession football. They are fighting for their lives and putting in what's required. Our season has been over for a while now. No way near the finished article. When we play the basketball end-to-end high press football and put our opponents under pressure I enjoy watching it. But it seems that the head coach doesn't want us to play that way. He reverts to type with the patterns and behaviours and these are the performances we get. So flat. Manning is a likeable guy but for me personally his football isn't. Manning is a likeable guy? Now I’m not going to disagree per se, but he’s pretty low down the list of guys I’d consider likeable. Nige was a likeable guy, Manning? I’m not so convinced… too robotic. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fpcity Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 9 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said: Plus, the more time LJ had on the training pitch the worse we got. Practically guaranteed to lose after every international break. Worrying similarities appearing. No doubt overcomplicating things. Obviously don't have to players to play the way he has in his mind. Would need pretty much a whole new team certainly in midfield and attack which won't happen this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just now, bexhill reds said: Mehmeti obviously did enough to warrant staying on the pitch…FFS Where are the options. Bell injured, Twine seemingly absent again. Pring-Roberts left side but is Pring properly fit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, Robin101 said: Has he been anything other than ranging from anonymous to frustrating in his career here? Manning continuing to pick him really makes me question Manning. He must see something we don't see I guess. He reminds me of a youngster playing Sunday football because his dad thinks it's a good idea but the youngster has no bottle and doesn't want to get hurt. Sorry, I've had enough of this passenger, L1 at best. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme Shelton Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, algenon2007 said: Max Oleary is not a championship goalie. I think we have far,far bigger problems than Max 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 On the positive side, with that one cross Mehmeti has done more in two minutes than he's done in the previous 45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordofthebling Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 50 points for safety? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Vyner looks a shadow of the player he was at the moment. Man management I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 3 minutes ago, robinforlife2 said: who's in the studio? Scottish lad? Kal Naismith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just now, Lordofthebling said: 50 points for safety? Nah, one more win or three draws. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, 1960maaan said: On the positive side, with that one cross Mehmeti has done more in two minutes than he's done in the previous 45 games. Edited for accuracy. 3 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, 1960maaan said: On the positive side, with that one cross Mehmeti has done more in two minutes than he's done in the previous 45 Off to put the bunting out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Where are the options. Bell injured, Twine seemingly absent again. Pring-Roberts left side but is Pring properly fit? Frankly you could stick a tub of lard on the touch line and it would be more effective 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollsRoyce Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Let's see the reaction second half on the pitch. They are certainly a side to beat. Away day win 3-2. It's the hope that kills you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Still, Liam has given them their half time rocket so I'm guessing we will be having a right go at them now.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Scum winning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just now, bexhill reds said: Frankly you could stick a tub of lard on the touch line and it would be more effective Steve Evans ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 At least trying to up the pace now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just now, Numero Uno said: Still, Liam has given them their half time rocket so I'm guessing we will be having a right go at them now.................. In fairness, started the half ok. They are a bit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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