Shauntaylor85 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 6 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: They’re going to piss money on him to cover their asses aren’t they. Imagine Pearson WITH money. These owners pain me. Yep. LJ mark two. Back in a mess again soon no doubt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, Puckle_red said: I generally like us to stick with Managers and give them time. But I'll happily put my kneck on the line, Manning is not the one. In an ideal world he'd be gone tonight. The problem being with that is, we get Tinnion and JL picking the next one, and around we go again. Nige had 2 spells at Leicester...would he?! If I was JL I'd sack Tinnion, get a proper CEO in - and get Horseman back into the club under Tinns former role ASAP. Then make the overtures to get NP back. Olive branch etc. If that fails - make him a consultant on all footballing decisions off the book going forward. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just now, LondonBristolian said: Is it? When Pearson went, we had 18 points from 14 (which I make around 1.28 per game) We now have 44 from 34 (which I make around 1.29 per game) NP. 18/14 LM 23/19 The one between was Fleming so Idk how we assign that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 7 minutes ago, Superjack said: Why? He's as much of a problem as they are. Indeed. He's allowed these idiots to run the club. But Lansdown Snr has shown in the past he's the only one who's capable of making the right calls (sometimes) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puckle_red Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, LondonBristolian said: Is it? When Pearson went, we had 18 points from 14 (which I make around 1.28 per game) We now have 44 from 34 (which I make around 1.29 per game) Without a big chunk of our first team. We had to play Sykes as a left back and a kid with Zero senior appearances at RB at Cardiff. Conway returned to the bench for the first time in months, wasn't Vyner out too? Different scenarios, Manning has a strong Bristol City squad to pick from and has done since being here. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinforlife2 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Also, be careful what you wish for. If they thought we've made a mistake and sacked on Monday, you can bet your life Tinnion and Lansdown would bring back Lee Johnson until the end of the season, and we would probably win a few and they would give him a second crack at it. There's no chance they would go back for Pearson, or an old head on wise shoulders. If they give Manning the boot, they would bring back LJ or make Andy King player manager, so just be careful what you wish for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 4 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: Is it? When Pearson went, we had 18 points from 14 (which I make around 1.28 per game) We now have 44 from 34 (which I make around 1.29 per game) The key nuance here is the much stronger squad availability 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Cheese Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 14 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Hang on, he was contracted to Oxford so we would have had to pay compensation to them and improve the wages that Manning and his staff were on so not like employing an out of work guy. Easy? Easier than trying to persuade someone with an established record of success to come here I am certain. By cheap option, meant his wages, compared to a proven championship manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galley is our king Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 4 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: Is it? When Pearson went, we had 18 points from 14 (which I make around 1.28 per game) We now have 44 from 34 (which I make around 1.29 per game) When Pearson left we were 4 points off the playoffs.... We are now 11.. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen hump Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 16 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: I think where I'm at with this is that we're in danger of the good culture that was in place of eroding. Signs of that already. Players have lost confidence. We know those two things are really difficult to change. I personally think that continuing to back a horse with 3 legs is quite ridiculous. Rather than having some blind faith that it might work out we should probably look to take the bull by the horns and be pro active. IF a change was made now it would give a new man time to evaluate the squad etc. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with Manning deciding the futures of players like James etc. Tinnion will be deciding players futures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, petehinton said: The key nuance here is the much stronger squad availability Which people conveniently like to over look. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaverface Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 2 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Indeed. He's allowed these idiots to run the club. But Lansdown Snr has shown in the past he's the only one who's capable of making the right calls (sometimes) Didn't SL previously admit he had to come back to the club and sort out the Holden mess before he then appointed Pearson? Sounds like he needs to do the same again!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galley is our king Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 2 minutes ago, Puckle_red said: Without a big chunk of our first team. We had to play Sykes as a left back and a kid with Zero senior appearances at RB at Cardiff. Conway returned to the bench for the first time in months, wasn't Vyner out too? Different scenarios, Manning has a strong Bristol City squad to pick from and has done since being here. Vyner, Tanner, Williams, King... Just from memory, there were more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Puckle_red said: Without a big chunk of our first team. We had to play Sykes as a left back and a kid with Zero senior appearances at RB at Cardiff. Conway returned to the bench for the first time in months, wasn't Vyner out too? Different scenarios, Manning has a strong Bristol City squad to pick from and has done since being here. Yes, think Tanner and McCrorie were both out for something between a month and 6 weeks simultaneously. We played in the back 4, to expand your point..(Not Matty he was injured). James Dickie Pring Sykes That was our backline. Edited February 24 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galley is our king Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 2 minutes ago, Glen hump said: Tinnion will be deciding players futures. Someone should sort out his future! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 4 minutes ago, robinforlife2 said: Also, be careful what you wish for. If they thought we've made a mistake and sacked on Monday, you can bet your life Tinnion and Lansdown would bring back Lee Johnson until the end of the season, and we would probably win a few and they would give him a second crack at it. There's no chance they would go back for Pearson, or an old head on wise shoulders. If they give Manning the boot, they would bring back LJ or make Andy King player manager, so just be careful what you wish for. Which is why I wish for the Lansdowns and Tinnion to disappear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 3 minutes ago, beaverface said: Didn't SL previously admit he had to come back to the club and sort out the Holden mess before he then appointed Pearson? Sounds like he needs to do the same again!! Yes that's what I was alluding to. Steve takes a back seat these days but at times he does get back involved. If I'm Steve I'm on the blower this evening and sorting this mess out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 4 minutes ago, Puckle_red said: Without a big chunk of our first team. We had to play Sykes as a left back and a kid with Zero senior appearances at RB at Cardiff. Conway returned to the bench for the first time in months, wasn't Vyner out too? Different scenarios, Manning has a strong Bristol City squad to pick from and has done since being here. Cardiff was utterly ridiculous. But we were missing 5 or 6 players for much of the first part of the season and we've been missing Atkinson, Naismith, Sykes, Twine*, Pring and Bell at various points in recent weeks whilst McCrorie and Wells only came back part the way into Manning's tenure. * a new signing but we've lost Weimann, who would be counted amongst Pearson's injuries. Pearson had it worse with injuries for sure but - Ipswich and Cardiff aside - I'm not sure the difference was that dramatic and it'd certainly be an inaccurate picture to pretend Manning has generally had a fully fit squad to choose from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 8 minutes ago, robinforlife2 said: or make Andy King player manager Suits me! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey54 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 The only way that Manning will get sacked is if people stop going or renewing season tickets. Lansdown doesn't care if we're a mid table side going nowhere as long as 20k plus keep turning up every home game. Be a bit different if only 12 or 14k was our average gate. It's all about the money. He cares **** all about the football 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 10 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: Is it? When Pearson went, we had 18 points from 14 (which I make around 1.28 per game) We now have 44 from 34 (which I make around 1.29 per game) Three of those points came under Fleming but let’s ignore that and point out that in the latest ten game block we are less than a point a game. That is crap when you consider a transfer window and increased squad availability. Manning is meandering aimlessly at present. He won’t get sacked but he needs to pull his finger out of his arse and start producing the improvement that the hierarchy deemed was required. You don’t sack a manager to achieve worse results. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedred31 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 6 minutes ago, Glen hump said: Tinnion will be deciding players futures. Promotion would decide all their futures, as none of this bunch are really good enough for the prem. Which seems something of a disincentive for a mid table + squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh II Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 15 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: Is it? When Pearson went, we had 18 points from 14 (which I make around 1.28 per game) We now have 44 from 34 (which I make around 1.29 per game) So he's definitely in sacking territory then 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 I am ‘Manning in’ for clarity. The mess is above him. We can’t be paying off 3 more years of Manning’s contract just for them to make another appointment that they’ll either hate (Nige) or who won’t be up to it (Holden, Manning?). 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 45 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Think you should change the title from Manning to Tinnion Brian “see you in the Prem” Tinnion 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just now, Randy Marsh II said: So he's definitely in sacking territory then Pretty generous of LB to not differentiate, Fleming took game 15..and pushed it up to 1.4 PPG. Manning has 1.21. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 As Lizz Truss said after becoming Prime Minister...you can be sacked as Prime Minister, but not if you are head honcho at the Bank of England. It applies with us...regardless of who's running the ship, its those who are unaccountable and make the decisions that can't be sacked. Manning is way out of his depth imo, and by the week comes across more and more like LJ in his decision making. Many will be thinking the same but will sit on the fence so as not to be wrong. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Musicworks Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Is it too early to have a stick or twist poll for Manning yet ? He finally gets his wish to have more time training on the grass and if today is the result then it does not bode well. Personally this is the earliest I have ever wanted a manager gone. He just seems out of his depth and has for most of the time since he has been here. Lose to Cardiff and it may get quite toxic next week. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 23 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: Is it? When Pearson went, we had 18 points from 14 (which I make around 1.28 per game) We now have 44 from 34 (which I make around 1.29 per game) Depends what point you’re trying to make or trying to play down the anger? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 If we can't sack him can we at least take a leaf out of our January transfer window play book and loan him back to Oxford for the remainder of the season? 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 9 points from the last 10 games… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just a point re sacking Manning. He's on a 3.5 year contract. If we were to sack him in Summer, that would be a fairly sizable payout. Obviously we can't let these things dictate the decision, but it would be one hell of a mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey54 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 4 minutes ago, spudski said: As Lizz Truss said after becoming Prime Minister...you can be sacked as Prime Minister, but not if you are head honcho at the Bank of England. It applies with us...regardless of who's running the ship, its those who are unaccountable and make the decisions that can't be sacked. Manning is way out of his depth imo, and by the week comes across more and more like LJ in his decision making. Many will be thinking the same but will sit on the fence so as not to be wrong. I was just about to say that it's Junior Johnson all over again. Young manager who does ok at a lower league team but completely out of his depth. Pearson was the best thing to happen at this club since Cotts. Both been there and done it and both strong men. The Lansdowns can't cope with real men 13 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abingdon Red Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 The next few games could be very difficult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Manning’s post match interview was that of a beaten man (and I don’t mean just defeat today), Blaming the players is a poor managerial position to take, Accepting no blame himself. His hangdog expression and lacklustre words give me zero optimism. If he is here next August I fear the worst. Yet on last 180 minutes he may well not survive to next year. Question for the incompetent three - Do you honestly believe this man can take us to the top division ? because I can’t see in his record, with us and before, any grounds for such beliefs. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just now, Gaseater said: He will get snapped up quickly by a league 1 side so pay out would stop. That’s not how contract terminations work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityboy1954 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) 43 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: I think where I'm at with this is that we're in danger of the good culture that was in place of eroding. Signs of that already. Players have lost confidence. We know those two things are really difficult to change. I personally think that continuing to back a horse with 3 legs is quite ridiculous. Rather than having some blind faith that it might work out we should probably look to take the bull by the horns and be pro active. IF a change was made now it would give a new man time to evaluate the squad etc. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with Manning deciding the futures of players like James etc. Worrying thing is whod want to come here with tinnion calling the shots and a pound shop budget . Edited February 24 by Cityboy1954 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollsRoyce Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Pearson has gone. Manning is Manning and we have to judge him on his performance in the context of his tenure and circumstances. So far he looks miles out of his depth, but has the opportunity over 12 games to learn and evolve and deliver. But so far, if nothing changes, we need to cut our losses in the summer. He is certainly not what we had hoped for. What we have to avoid is an expensive and time wasting period where the owners try to justify a bad decision by hanging on, only to arrive at the inevitable conclusion. He has plenty of games to show what he can do, and does not mean winning 7 games for example, but giving some indication that he knows what he is doing when the situation os complex and demanding. Thankfully we did not bring him in to avoid a relegation. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAWS Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 54 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Lansdown Snr needs to get on the blower and take charge of this tragic situation that his son and BT have created. It's lansclown senior that has created the mess 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3_RED Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Should be. He is not the right fit for us. He is not the right guy to take us forward. You are not the right fit to be a supporter of Bristol City in my opinion and should watch another Bristol based football team. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedred31 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 He’s Bristol footballs Steve Borthwick. God, what a depressing day. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Depends what point you’re trying to make or trying to play down the anger? I’m not really trying to make any point beyond that I don’t honestly believe we would be significantly higher than 12th with our current squad regardless of who was managing us. I am far from convinced on Manning but I don’t buy into the idea the change in management - whilst unnecessary - has significantly impacted on our fortunes either way. Edited February 24 by LondonBristolian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 36 minutes ago, Big Cheese said: By cheap option, meant his wages, compared to a proven championship manager OK , thanks for clearing that up . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Cardiff at home next who picked up 3 points today. Lose that game and it’s going to be even more horrific than tonight. Not sure what leg Manning then has to stand on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Hampton Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 57 minutes ago, Gaseater said: Because he wasn’t going to get a new deal and started kicking off. No, he wasn’t playing ball, called them out for some of their faults at running the club and was a definite alpha male, a strong personality. They didn’t communicate with him, that’s why he was “kicking off “! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 13 minutes ago, RollsRoyce said: Thankfully we did not bring him in to avoid a relegation. We may have to bring someone into avoid one next year. And we won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, Gaseater said: He has a track record of this behaviour - same reason he got binned by Derby. Under Mel Morris? Who had an attitude of my way or the highway. No one else’s opinion counts. Sounds awfully familiar 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofyourkipper Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, JBFC II said: Issue is would we trust the board to make a good appointment? They've made 14 appointments in the last 25 years, how many of those have seen us finish in the top half of the championship? 2? Ultimately if Manning gets sacked will anyone better come in? I heavily doubt it would'nt be hard to get someone better would it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Hampton Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) I blame the board they’ve done LM a huge disservice by “bigging up” his potential and his being just what we needed. If LM stayed put he would possibly have evolved into a good manager once he’d gained some real experience. Edited February 24 by JP Hampton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBF Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 No point in getting rid of Manning now but we should start looking for a replacement to come in May/June. Big problem is Board not Manager No confidence they will make a good appointment. It’s a frustrating horrible cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Hampton Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 5 minutes ago, Gaseater said: He has a track record of this behaviour - same reason he got binned by Derby. And what reason was that? So what happened at Leicester hmmm did he achieve anything there at all. I’m not denying he was a hard nut, but I think he’s a straight talker something many nowadays are afraid of. I know which character I prefer. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, GBF said: No point in getting rid of Manning now but we should start looking for a replacement to come in May/June. Big problem is Board not Manager No confidence they will make a good appointment. It’s a frustrating horrible cycle. It would make perfect sense to remove now. Giving the manager time to work with the squad now, see the gaps and work with the club to strengthen in the summer. Its all a pointless debate however as Manning will go nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, JP Hampton said: I blame the board they’ve done LM a huge disservice by “bigging up” his potential and his being just what we needed. If LM stayed put he would possibly have evolved into a good manager once he’d gained some real experience. This is a good point. From the start, we’ve been force fed that Liam is a great coach and “ours” - the tweets early on of “Liam Mannings Cider Army” and the embarrassing “a word from the gaffer” pieces when the quotes are chat GPT nonsense did him no favours. He was appointed in contentious circumstances and we were told “ain’t he great” from the start. It was misjudged and did him no favours. It isn’t why he’s failing. But Bristol Sport need to take a serious look at themselves as they didn’t help him in any way. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lerring Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, Capman said: Let’s be honest. Sacking Pearson was nothing to do with football. So the comparison is pretty meaningless. I wish this post could be pinned to the top of every thread, it'd stop 90% of the repetitive, predictable posts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Hampton Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 4 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: This is a good point. From the start, we’ve been force fed that Liam is a great coach and “ours” - the tweets early on of “Liam Mannings Cider Army” and the embarrassing “a word from the gaffer” pieces when the quotes are chat GPT nonsense did him no favours. He was appointed in contentious circumstances and we were told “ain’t he great” from the start. It was misjudged and did him no favours. It isn’t why he’s failing. But Bristol Sport need to take a serious look at themselves as they didn’t help him in any way. Yes, I do have sympathy with him. You can’t blame him for taking the opportunity. I’m not sure he can’t turn it around but how long that would take is the question. Dare I say, the players do look like they’ve lost some of that killer instinct, that they were finally getting at the end of NPs time here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 22 minutes ago, BS3_RED said: You are not the right fit to be a supporter of Bristol City in my opinion and should watch another Bristol based football team. You'd be better off supporting North Korea FC with that attitude mate. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capman Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 3 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: This is a good point. From the start, we’ve been force fed that Liam is a great coach and “ours” - the tweets early on of “Liam Mannings Cider Army” and the embarrassing “a word from the gaffer” pieces when the quotes are chat GPT nonsense did him no favours. He was appointed in contentious circumstances and we were told “ain’t he great” from the start. It was misjudged and did him no favours. It isn’t why he’s failing. But Bristol Sport need to take a serious look at themselves as they didn’t help him in any way. Sorry to be boring but it’s exactly what I mean when I say the culture of the club is rotten to the core. When you lie, the lies just continue to pile up and they distort everything. Firing Pearson was not a football decision, it was personal. But because JL did not have the balls to tell the truth, we got all the top 6 squad and Manning is great stuff to cover the real reason. That has set the new manager up to fail and even put pressure on the squad who are perceived to be ‘failing’ because they are not that standard. The situation does not change for me until JL steps down. He created this mess personally, and should have the guts to take responsibility. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, Galley is our king said: When Pearson left we were 4 points off the playoffs.... We are now 11.. With an injury ravaged team! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herta Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 I’d normally say give it to the end of the season but on the evidence of the last two games he isn’t going to make it that far. Weve just lost back to back against clubs on the relegation zone. That is unacceptable and alarming from any manager. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 26 minutes ago, The Coach said: Cardiff at home next who picked up 3 points today. Lose that game and it’s going to be even more horrific than tonight. Not sure what leg Manning then has to stand on. He needs to get something from that game big time to stop the ‘talk’ now - two abject performances which have been utterly depressing. Hopefully we get another Southampton type performance but that feels miles away atm. Fingers crossed though because if we lose next week it won’t be pretty! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, Redland said: There is no way that this run of results would’ve been acceptable under Nigel Pearson. After all we are told we have a squad which should be in the top six and we are currently 12th and falling. Only nine points above the relegation places with two defeats in succession against bottom three sides. At this rate even if we avoid relegation this season I can see us being in a relegation battle next season, particularly if we lose the experience of James and Williams in midfield. It seems that there is one rule for NP and the another rule for the replacement. We’ve been on worse form under Pearson, utterly ridiculous claim. This is Bristol City Football Club, not Nigel Pearson Football Club. The quicker people realise this, the sooner we can move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capman Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Problem is if Manning goes who is going to want the job under a clearly dysfunctional board with no vision for the club? An experienced manager will look at the way Cotts and Pearson were treated and say no thanks, so we will be left with another mini Johnson or Manning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dicks Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 57 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said: Just a point re sacking Manning. He's on a 3.5 year contract. If we were to sack him in Summer, that would be a fairly sizable payout. Obviously we can't let these things dictate the decision, but it would be one hell of a mess. Mess is what the Lansdowns do the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 6 minutes ago, Charlie BCFC said: We’ve been on worse form under Pearson, utterly ridiculous claim. This is Bristol City Football Club, not Nigel Pearson Football Club. The quicker people realise this, the sooner we can move on We were under worse form perhaps, at times we were under a massive FFP issue, injuries worse etc. Can you pick some sample sizes LEAGUE ONLY. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Island Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 4 minutes ago, Capman said: Problem is if Manning goes who is going to want the job under a clearly dysfunctional board with no vision for the club? An experienced manager will look at the way Cotts and Pearson were treated and say no thanks, so we will be left with another mini Johnson or Manning. Dean holden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Capman said: The situation does not change for me until JL steps down. He created this mess personally, and should have the guts to take responsibility. True, but guess who was behind him encouraging and stirring the pot Edited February 24 by Frenchay Red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Island Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Why is it most of our manager appointments appear to have had a charisma bypass operation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, Supersonic Robin said: Just a point re sacking Manning. He's on a 3.5 year contract. If we were to sack him in Summer, that would be a fairly sizable payout. Obviously we can't let these things dictate the decision, but it would be one hell of a mess. There will be break clauses, performance clauses etc. It won't be a 3.5 year pay out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, robinforlife2 said: Also, be careful what you wish for. If they thought we've made a mistake and sacked on Monday, you can bet your life Tinnion and Lansdown would bring back Lee Johnson until the end of the season, and we would probably win a few and they would give him a second crack at it. There's no chance they would go back for Pearson, or an old head on wise shoulders. If they give Manning the boot, they would bring back LJ or make Andy King player manager, so just be careful what you wish for. In all seriousness, they could do a lot worse than that. King has achieved more in his distinguished career than most of the squad put together. That alone would command respect, unlike Manning who experienced the peak of his playing career in two years at Leiston, whoever they are. Edited February 24 by tin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: We were under worse form perhaps, at times we were under a massive FFP issue, injuries worse etc. Can you pick some sample sizes LEAGUE ONLY. Pearson in the 2020/2021 season lost 3 on the bounce and 4 on the bounce just in the first couple of months of him being in charge. Manning on the other hand won 3 league games on the bounce which Pearson never was able to achieve 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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