Losing one’s temper

[Ivorguy]

According to Bristol Live on Newsnow Bristol City, Manning has talked about being a tough guy in the dressing room. As I have said before this is not a good managerial look in 21st century.

He needs to own his own mistakes and attempt to carry a united team forward.  We have lost a great deal with Nige’s going

[exAtyeoMax]

2 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

According to Bristol Live on Newsnow Bristol City, Manning has talked about being a tough guy in the dressing room. As I have said before this is not a good managerial look in 21st century.

He needs to own his own mistakes and attempt to carry a united team forward.  We have lost a great deal with Nige’s going

sort of reminds me of LJ getting angry with the players.

[DaveF]

4 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

sort of reminds me of LJ getting angry with the players.

Surely LJ and Manning getting angry would be funny to the players rather than intimidating or motivating? They're hardly Pearson are they... Not exactly blokes you'd be scared of.

[marmite]

2 minutes ago, DaveF said:

Surely LJ and Manning getting angry would be funny to the players rather than intimidating or motivating? They're hardly Pearson are they... Not exactly blokes you'd be scared of.

Maybe that's the problem. They hear him and think...fxxk you.

[The Original OTIB]

3 minutes ago, DaveF said:

Surely LJ and Manning getting angry would be funny to the players rather than intimidating or motivating? They're hardly Pearson are they... Not exactly blokes you'd be scared of.

about as frightening as

[Numero Uno]

"Lads, if you keep playing like that I'll get very cross"...............

[Super]

Really needed yet another thread

[Open End Numb Legs]

I wonder if he fell between 2 stools when he took over. If City had been bottom he could have built a siege mentality and talked a hard game where anything good was a bonus. If City had been in the top 6 he would have had a team already with confidence where he could tell them what they want to hear to keep them on track.

Instead, being mid table,, he couldn't beat them up and neither could he tell them they were doing everything right.

[marmite]

2 minutes ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

I wonder if he fell between 2 stools when he took over. If City had been bottom he could have built a siege mentality and talked a hard game where anything good was a bonus. If City had been in the top 6 he would have had a team already with confidence where he could tell them what they want to hear to keep them on track.

Instead, being mid table,, he couldn't beat them up and neither could he tell them they were doing everything right.

I know which two stools he fell between.

[Northern Red]

20 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

According to Bristol Live on Newsnow Bristol City, Manning has talked about being a tough guy in the dressing room. As I have said before this is not a good managerial look in 21st century.

He needs to own his own mistakes and attempt to carry a united team forward.  We have lost a great deal with Nige’s going

Do you still want us to lose tomorrow?

[Numero Uno]

1 minute ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

I wonder if he fell between 2 stools when he took over. If City had been bottom he could have built a siege mentality and talked a hard game where anything good was a bonus. If City had been in the top 6 he would have had a team already with confidence where he could tell them what they want to hear to keep them on track.

Instead, being mid table,, he couldn't beat them up and neither could he tell them they were doing everything right.

Managers normally take over when a club is in the shit. Most would bite your hand off to take charge of a side with no attitude problems and bumbling along comfortably in mid-table. What most probably wouldn't be doing in that scenario is ripping the lot up and ******* the lot up.

If Liam tried to "beat anyone up" Andy King or Matty James would probably tell him to shut the **** up" and that wouldn't happen again.

[Ivorguy]

22 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Do you still want us to lose tomorrow?

Yes if it means we can avoid relegation, for a victory will be largely meaningless in the grand scheme of Manning’s lack of ability to coach/manage.

 

Sometimes one needs to take a step backwards in order to go forward.

 

Imo we are in serious trouble with Manning in charge.

 

Do you really want to take a real risk of relegation if a one-off victory keeps Manning in control until last match of season?  If so, I disagree

[Lack of Action Man]

33 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

"Lads, if you keep playing like that I'll get very cross"...............

Yeah this exactly, sorry but LM doesn’t look like he could fight his way out of a paper bag let alone fight for his job.

[Red-Robbo]

38 minutes ago, DaveF said:

Surely LJ and Manning getting angry would be funny to the players rather than intimidating or motivating? They're hardly Pearson are they... Not exactly blokes you'd be scared of.

 

The question is can Manning face down a pack of Transylvanian wolves?

[stortfordred]

32 minutes ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

I wonder if he fell between 2 stools when he took over. 

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

29 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Do you still want us to lose tomorrow?

 

3 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

Yes if it means we can avoid relegation, for a victory will be largely meaningless in the grand scheme of Manning’s lack of ability to coach/manage.

Well- there we have it. A victory against Ipswich will be largely meaningless and you'd want BCFC to lose for the greater good. Madness.

[Sturgess]

Where is your passion and effort? Where are my leaders, doing by example. 

P.s don’t get too emotional

Edited March 4 by Sturgess

[eardun]

55 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

According to Bristol Live on Newsnow Bristol City, Manning has talked about being a tough guy in the dressing room. As I have said before this is not a good managerial look in 21st century.

He needs to own his own mistakes and attempt to carry a united team forward.  We have lost a great deal with Nige’s going

Don’t think he said ‘tough guy’ looking at this. Nothing wrong with what he says in my view:

Liam Manning prepared to show a different side as Bristol City look to address alarming slump

Bristol City travel to promotion-seeking Ipswich Town in the midst of a run which is veering them towards the wrong end of the Championship

James Piercy

Bristol City head coach Liam Manning (Photo by Kieran McManus/REX/Shutterstock)

We’re not exactly in “no more Mr. Nice Guy” territory here, but Liam Manning insists there’s another side to him reserved solely for the dressing room as he tries to navigate Bristol City out of their current slump.

City have lost three straight games to sides below them in the Championship table, scoring just once, and from a position of optimism and excitement at what the final third of the 2023/24 season could hold, it’s quickly become one of considerable concern with just six points separating the Robins and Stoke City in 22nd and the start of the relegation zone. 

Tuesday’s trip to Ipswich Town doesn’t resemble an obvious place to secure three much-needed points, as the second-placed Tractor Boys bid for a sixth consecutive win and a chance to join Leicester City level on points at the top of the Championship.

But, as games against QPR, Sheffield Wednesday and Cardiff City have further revealed, City continue to struggle against low possession teams, something Ipswich head coach Kieran McKenna has noted in the build-up to this fixture. 

Throughout this troubling fortnight, which has opened up wounds around Nigel Pearson’s departure which had never gone away but had at least begun to heal slightly, Manning’s demeanour has remained largely the same; a default setting of composed and controlled, to the point of almost irritation among some supporters, given the chaos they believe is unfolding.

It all feeds back into the head coach’s ethos of strictly managing emotions and, in simple terms, not getting too high in moments of success, and too low when the opposite occurs.

Manning has previously admitted to using strong words to elicit a response, at half-time against Huddersfield Town when City secured a point after being 1-0 down, and he indicated a similar tone was taken post-Cardiff, which runs contrary to his public-facing persona. Although, that was quickly peppered with a trademark dose of calm when discussing the bigger picture. 

“I’m usually emotional,” Manning said. “I think the changing room is a sacred place so how I am emotionally in front of the lads, that will change game to game. So you’ll see a certain side of me out here, when I’m in there it’s not always as calm and collected as you see.

“The frustration comes from saying the same messages, and that’s the biggest bit. We can coach, we can tactically set up perfect, but we have to have people stepping up and taking responsibility - we need leaders.

“That’s something the players need to see. Do I get angry, do I get frustrated, do I show that to the players? 100 per cent I do, you only have to ask the lads that. But I do think, now we’re moving onto Tuesday, if I carry that hangover over as well, I can’t then expect the players not to. It’s how you show emotion and sometimes they need someone that stays calm in challenging situations.”

[The Original OTIB]

7 minutes ago, eardun said:

Don’t think he said ‘tough guy’ looking at this. Nothing wrong with what he says in my view:

Liam Manning prepared to show a different side as Bristol City look to address alarming slump

Bristol City travel to promotion-seeking Ipswich Town in the midst of a run which is veering them towards the wrong end of the Championship

James Piercy

Bristol City head coach Liam Manning (Photo by Kieran McManus/REX/Shutterstock)

We’re not exactly in “no more Mr. Nice Guy” territory here, but Liam Manning insists there’s another side to him reserved solely for the dressing room as he tries to navigate Bristol City out of their current slump.

City have lost three straight games to sides below them in the Championship table, scoring just once, and from a position of optimism and excitement at what the final third of the 2023/24 season could hold, it’s quickly become one of considerable concern with just six points separating the Robins and Stoke City in 22nd and the start of the relegation zone. 

Tuesday’s trip to Ipswich Town doesn’t resemble an obvious place to secure three much-needed points, as the second-placed Tractor Boys bid for a sixth consecutive win and a chance to join Leicester City level on points at the top of the Championship.

But, as games against QPR, Sheffield Wednesday and Cardiff City have further revealed, City continue to struggle against low possession teams, something Ipswich head coach Kieran McKenna has noted in the build-up to this fixture. 

Throughout this troubling fortnight, which has opened up wounds around Nigel Pearson’s departure which had never gone away but had at least begun to heal slightly, Manning’s demeanour has remained largely the same; a default setting of composed and controlled, to the point of almost irritation among some supporters, given the chaos they believe is unfolding.

It all feeds back into the head coach’s ethos of strictly managing emotions and, in simple terms, not getting too high in moments of success, and too low when the opposite occurs.

Manning has previously admitted to using strong words to elicit a response, at half-time against Huddersfield Town when City secured a point after being 1-0 down, and he indicated a similar tone was taken post-Cardiff, which runs contrary to his public-facing persona. Although, that was quickly peppered with a trademark dose of calm when discussing the bigger picture. 

“I’m usually emotional,” Manning said. “I think the changing room is a sacred place so how I am emotionally in front of the lads, that will change game to game. So you’ll see a certain side of me out here, when I’m in there it’s not always as calm and collected as you see.

“The frustration comes from saying the same messages, and that’s the biggest bit. We can coach, we can tactically set up perfect, but we have to have people stepping up and taking responsibility - we need leaders.

“That’s something the players need to see. Do I get angry, do I get frustrated, do I show that to the players? 100 per cent I do, you only have to ask the lads that. But I do think, now we’re moving onto Tuesday, if I carry that hangover over as well, I can’t then expect the players not to. It’s how you show emotion and sometimes they need someone that stays calm in challenging situations.”

Tinnion "look into my eyes" all over again.

[GrahamC]

Andy Llewellyn once famously said that in all the time he played under Joe Jordan that he never lost his temper once, he said his look was enough.

I suppose starting off by being a scary bloke who also scored in 3 different World Cups & played in Serie A for AC Milan is a bit of a head start, but I doubt losing your temper is ever likely to achieve much.

[IAmNick]

16 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

 

Well- there we have it. A victory against Ipswich will be largely meaningless and you'd want BCFC to lose for the greater good. Madness.

If he thinks that's City's greatest chance of success why is it so mad?

I'm not sure I agree by the way, but just wondering.

[Numero Uno]

1 minute ago, IAmNick said:

If he thinks that's City's greatest chance of success why is it so mad?

I'm not sure I agree by the way, but just wondering.

Let's not go there again.....................

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

Just now, IAmNick said:

If he thinks that's City's greatest chance of success why is it so mad?

I'm not sure I agree by the way, but just wondering.

I cannot explain why losing is a good thing hence mad. Then again the OP has a decade of negativity behind him so maybe it's no surprise?

[Northern Red]

30 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

Yes if it means we can avoid relegation, for a victory will be largely meaningless in the grand scheme of Manning’s lack of ability to coach/manage.

 

Sometimes one needs to take a step backwards in order to go forward.

 

Imo we are in serious trouble with Manning in charge.

 

Do you really want to take a real risk of relegation if a one-off victory keeps Manning in control until last match of season?  If so, I disagree

Cracking.

So if we do lose, I assume you won't be treating us to your usual hysterical nonsense afterwards?

Yeah, thought not...

[Roger Red Hat]

Anybody think that the next 'uncut' will have a little segment of Liam losing his rag?

[Merrick's Marvels]

58 minutes ago, marmite said:

Maybe that's the problem. They hear him and think...fxxk you.

Yep, absolutely. He's already recorded on the club's own social media output as telling players "I've told you already...".

At which point, there's the distinct possibility a few of them were thinking "who the heck are you". The worse results are, the more likely this reaction.

It's why we're getting rid of lots of experienced players and replacing them in the summer with teenagers from Aldershot, Ireland and who knows what other minor leagues.

Which is exactly where we'll end up if Tinnion and puppet Manning remain in charge long enough.

[IAmNick]

4 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

I cannot explain why losing is a good thing hence mad. Then again the OP has a decade of negativity behind him so maybe it's no surprise?

Yeah fair, I'm not sure I can ever remember wanting City to lose, but I can sort of see the logic in it.

[phantom]

1 hour ago, Ivorguy said:

According to Bristol Live on Newsnow Bristol City, Manning has talked about being a tough guy in the dressing room. As I have said before this is not a good managerial look in 21st century.

He needs to own his own mistakes and attempt to carry a united team forward.  We have lost a great deal with Nige’s going

Sorry to be pedantic but your title and opening question are essentially two different things 

But taking your point he's about as scary as LJ was

[Numero Uno]

2 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Yep, absolutely. He's already recorded on the club's own social media output as telling players "I've told you already...".

At which point, there's the distinct possibility a few of them were thinking "who the heck are you". The worse results are, the more likely this reaction.

It's why we're getting rid of lots of experienced players and replacing them in the summer with teenagers from Aldershot, Ireland and who knows what other minor leagues.

Which is exactly where we'll end up if Tinnion and puppet Manning remain in charge long enough.

How many clubs in the Prem have a "strategy" of "picking up Championship players with 150 league games under their belt"? None because guess where they'll ''end up? Yet Sid reckons we can fill our squad with "lower league gems" and do the complete opposite in the Championship. Can someone please make this make sense?

[1960maaan]

8 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said:

Anybody think that the next 'uncut' will have a little segment of Liam losing his rag?

Boss , Boss, you ok ? 

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

6 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

Yeah fair, I'm not sure I can ever remember wanting City to lose, but I can sort of see the logic in it.

I can't see the logic.

In the past two decades SL has never been trigger happy and never sacked a full time contracted manager with less than 25 games in charge. As it stands ( and things can change either way) we are not in the relegation zone and unlikely to become so. People wanting us to lose so that LM gets the chop is silly and ,for some, seems to be a matter of proving they were right at any cost to the club. IMO, of course.

[Davefevs]

22 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Andy Llewellyn once famously said that in all the time he played under Joe Jordan that he never lost his temper once, he said his look was enough.

I suppose starting off by being a scary bloke who also scored in 3 different World Cups & played in Serie A for AC Milan is a bit of a head start, but I doubt losing your temper is ever likely to achieve much.

I think Euell had a bit of that about him.  The look he gave a few times on those RU videos, was “don’t do that again, you don’t wanna find out what I’m like if you piss me off”.

[Superjack]

1 hour ago, Super said:

Really needed yet another thread

**** off. 

Don't read it.

[Superjack]

47 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

The question is can Manning face down a pack of Transylvanian wolves?

He couldn't face down a ****ing hamster.

[Superjack]

43 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

 

Well- there we have it. A victory against Ipswich will be largely meaningless and you'd want BCFC to lose for the greater good. Madness.

It's not madness. 

It's long term gain.

As is the Lansdowns selling up.

[Robbored]

Managers ‘losing it’ at half time can be a double edged sword and if Manning has ever ‘lost it’ it obviously hasn’t worked.

 

[The Bard]

One look from Nigel Pearson would be more effective than any number of angry Manning and Johnson talking tos

Edited March 4 by The Bard

[Davefevs]

9 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

How many clubs in the Prem have a "strategy" of "picking up Championship players with 150 league games under their belt"? None because guess where they'll ''end up? Yet Sid reckons we can fill our squad with "lower league gems" and do the complete opposite in the Championship. Can someone please make this make sense?

Not really…other than financial circumstances dictating.

But I think you can exploit the market and find undervalued players. 

Knight is one.

Bird probably another.

Both played 100 times at this level, young, but circumstances meant they are in Lg1.  They weren’t Lg1 players, just there through circumstance.

Undervalued players was the basis of Moneyball (if you’ve not read the book…don’t bother with the film).

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

2 minutes ago, Superjack said:

**** off. 

Don't read it.

There are 22 threads on page 1 of OTIB. 14 of these are anti Manning or anti BCFC. Even the Dicky player of the month opens with a 'Titanic' reference.

You have a lot of anger towards someone who appears to be stating the bleedin' obvious.

 

[Sheltons Army]

42 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Andy Llewellyn once famously said that in all the time he played under Joe Jordan that he never lost his temper once, he said his look was enough.

I suppose starting off by being a scary bloke who also scored in 3 different World Cups & played in Serie A for AC Milan is a bit of a head start, but I doubt losing your temper is ever likely to achieve much.

 

Isn’t that the case !

I happened to have pretty regular reason to be visiting  the inner sanctum (ie a corridor under the Williams) during the week and players would be fart adding around and messing around after training and you’d suddenly see them scatter out of sight into the changing room or gym , like schoolboys at a boarding school when the headmaster appeared , and you’d then notice Joe had arrived 

Incredible presence / aura

Helped by his natural growl and an accent that meant most of the players caught about every tenth word

* And he was as fit if not fitter than any of the players , always led the run and finished first , always in the gym after his ‘work’ 

Edited March 4 by Sheltons Army

[The Bard]

21 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Yep, absolutely. He's already recorded on the club's own social media output as telling players "I've told you already...".

At which point, there's the distinct possibility a few of them were thinking "who the heck are you". The worse results are, the more likely this reaction.

It's why we're getting rid of lots of experienced players and replacing them in the summer with teenagers from Aldershot, Ireland and who knows what other minor leagues.

Which is exactly where we'll end up if Tinnion and puppet Manning remain in charge long enough.

'I've told you already '

seriously?

****

Imagine what Matty James thinks of him?

[Merrick's Marvels]

2 minutes ago, The Bard said:

'I've told you already '

seriously?

****

Imagine what Matty James thinks of him?

Quite.

[Roger Red Hat]

24 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

How many clubs in the Prem have a "strategy" of "picking up Championship players with 150 league games under their belt"? None because guess where they'll ''end up? Yet Sid reckons we can fill our squad with "lower league gems" and do the complete opposite in the Championship. Can someone please make this make sense?

Not just players though, is it! Now we've got a lower league coach as well!

[The Bard]

1 hour ago, Numero Uno said:

Managers normally take over when a club is in the shit. Most would bite your hand off to take charge of a side with no attitude problems and bumbling along comfortably in mid-table. What most probably wouldn't be doing in that scenario is ripping the lot up and ******* the lot up.

If Liam tried to "beat anyone up" Andy King or Matty James would probably tell him to shut the **** up" and that wouldn't happen again.

If a selection of players  maybe James, Naismith,  Vyner, Wells Contacted Steve Lansdown to advise that it's a s***show, what do you suppose would happen?

Did Steve pick Manning?

 

[Superjack]

8 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

There are 22 threads on page 1 of OTIB. 14 of these are anti Manning or anti BCFC. Even the Dicky player of the month opens with a 'Titanic' reference.

You have a lot of anger towards someone who appears to be stating the bleedin' obvious.

 

Blame your precious overlords for my anger.

[Galley is our king]

1 hour ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

 

Well- there we have it. A victory against Ipswich will be largely meaningless and you'd want BCFC to lose for the greater good. Madness.

What about the madness of sacking Pearson in the first place?

What about the madness of replacing him with someone who has no experience in the championship either as a player or coach?

What about the madness of having two people in charge of the club with no experience or qualifications to be in such a position?

What about the madness of not even seeing what's right in front of people when they attend games?

Get rid, all three of them and replace with people who know what they are doing....

[W-S-M Seagull]

55 minutes ago, eardun said:

“The frustration comes from saying the same messages, and that’s the biggest bit. We can coach, we can tactically set up perfect, but we have to have people stepping up and taking responsibility - we need leaders.

I'm starting to lose my temper with the constant 'everything I do is perfect and it's the players that are at fault' 

He inherited a decent squad that could have got top 10. Instead he has turned that squad into relegation candidates. 

He talks about responsibility yet refuses to take absolutely zero responsibility for the shit show he has created. 

He's got zero experience at this level and hes pushing all the blame on to experienced players. This won't end well. When a manager starts doing this it only ends one way. He's in Nathan Jones territory. 

[Open End Numb Legs]

As I was trying to say in my '2 stools' post (not my best choice of words) I don't think LM quite knew what stance to take.

I think NP had enough experience to know that you can't be mates with the players. Have a divide, be the boss and then you can dish out a rollicking whenever you like. If you win the league, no one worries about the half time shouting.

If the manager tries to be one of the squad in a 'we're all in it together' style, it's great when winning but you have nowhere to go when you need to fire them up. I have seen this outside football.

So, in a way, having a bad run could be a force for change, create that authority. A harsh way to learn that lesson though and establishing authority does not guarantee results on it's own.

[Super]

30 minutes ago, Superjack said:

**** off. 

Don't read it.

Classy idiot.

[Superjack]

4 minutes ago, Super said:

Classy idiot.

At least I'm classy.

Idiot.

[BrizzleRed]

18 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said:

Not just players though, is it! Now we've got a lower league coach as well!

…… and judging by our current form, he appears to be moving us down towards his natural level.

[W-S-M Seagull]

5 minutes ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

As I was trying to say in my '2 stools' post (not my best choice of words) I don't think LM quite knew what stance to take.

I think NP had enough experience to know that you can't be mates with the players. Have a divide, be the boss and then you can dish out a rollicking whenever you like. If you win the league, no one worries about the half time shouting.

If the manager tries to be one of the squad in a 'we're all in it together' style, it's great when winning but you have nowhere to go when you need to fire them up. I have seen this outside football.

So, in a way, having a bad run could be a force for change, create that authority. A harsh way to learn that lesson though and establishing authority does not guarantee results on it's own.

Always makes me cringe when I hear him saying "Twiney, Pringy" etc. You see it in the training videos too, he thinks he's one of the lads. 

He's not a manager, he's a coach and it shows. 

 

[Superjack]

7 minutes ago, Super said:

Classy idiot.

You forgot the comma.

Or just didn't know that you needed it. 

Because you're an idiot.

You're welcome.

[Super]

16 minutes ago, Superjack said:

You forgot the comma.

Or just didn't know that you needed it. 

Because you're an idiot.

You're welcome.

You understood it.

[Northern Red]

33 minutes ago, Galley is our king said:

What about the madness of sacking Pearson in the first place?

What about the madness of replacing him with someone who has no experience in the championship either as a player or coach?

What about the madness of having two people in charge of the club with no experience or qualifications to be in such a position?

What about the madness of not even seeing what's right in front of people when they attend games?

Get rid, all three of them and replace with people who know what they are doing....

I don't disagree with any of that, but a defeat tomorrow isn't going to change any of it immediately, is it?

[Galley is our king]

9 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

I don't disagree with any of that, but a defeat tomorrow isn't going to change any of it immediately, is it?

What with the pillocks we have in charge? No.

Look, something has to change, it can't go on as it is.

We either start playing football and win some games or change the manager.

Lets hope it's winning but I'm definitely not holding my breath..

[RollsRoyce]

1 hour ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

There are 22 threads on page 1 of OTIB. 14 of these are anti Manning or anti BCFC. Even the Dicky player of the month opens with a 'Titanic' reference.

You have a lot of anger towards someone who appears to be stating the bleedin' obvious.

 

Then create a thread of your own instead of moaning about others. What do you want to talk about?

[Capman]

1 hour ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

I can't see the logic.

In the past two decades SL has never been trigger happy and never sacked a full time contracted manager with less than 25 games in charge. As it stands ( and things can change either way) we are not in the relegation zone and unlikely to become so. People wanting us to lose so that LM gets the chop is silly and ,for some, seems to be a matter of proving they were right at any cost to the club. IMO, of course.

So are you saying that the changes in management we have seen in the last 12 months have been good and the club is going in the right direction? 

[22A]

3 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said:

sort of reminds me of LJ getting angry with the players.

Dennis Healey; 

On debating with Geoffrey Howe:

Like being savaged by a dead sheep.”

[cidered abroad]

1 hour ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

I can't see the logic.

In the past two decades SL has never been trigger happy and never sacked a full time contracted manager with less than 25 games in charge. As it stands ( and things can change either way) we are not in the relegation zone and unlikely to become so. People wanting us to lose so that LM gets the chop is silly and ,for some, seems to be a matter of proving they were right at any cost to the club. IMO, of course.

I wonder how you can be so sure that we're unlikely to drop into the bottom three.

Continue like we are and it's a cast iron certainty that we'll end up in the relegation dogfight.

And while the Blades are getting hammered this evening, we could be on the end of a very similar situation tomorrow.

I really do hope that doesn't happen. I never want City to lose in any match, whoever the opposition are, football or tiddly winks and however much I believe that we need to change this head coach for a manager with the skill and experience to pick us up.

[REDOXO]

Liam Manning is as scarey as Niles Crane!

Anyone who thinks supporters want us to lose are well off base.  
 

We are a long suffering bunch.

Many have lived and died since the last time we had a modicum of success on the field and yet still we buy tickets , shirts, hospitality, badges, scarves and fanzines. Its the hope that gets you!

However we have been hopeless in large measure. The cup ties and a league game we won against a parachute team being the exception not the rule. We were utter crap against Leeds but by and large there were the usual parachute payments, prem team in waiting support statements on here. We were crap!
 

I hope we win tomorrow, but if we lose and are as utter crap as we have been then I think it’s done! 

[Ivorguy]

1 hour ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

I cannot explain why losing is a good thing hence mad. Then again the OP has a decade of negativity behind him so maybe it's no surprise?

Oh dear you really are a one for personal and inaccurate comments.  I was fully supportive of Pearson and years ago faced criticism from some over my concerns re Lansdowns and BS.  Many more otibers now support this position.. what matters to me is the club long term.  I was, for the record, fully supportive of Pat Beasley amongst a long list of other managers.

Please just  think through what I wrote before dashing off a reply.

Quite logical position to take, if like me you think Manning will relegate us.  Little to suggest otherwise.  If we do win tomorrow we have the next two matches to negotiate with wins if Manning is truly the man Tinnion and JL clearly think he is.

Forgive me for being cynical but after 8 decades as a fan I think I am allowed to be cynical re one match.  We shall see what we shall see

Good night all, sleep well and don’t worry about the morrow.

[Ivorguy]

1 hour ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

There are 22 threads on page 1 of OTIB. 14 of these are anti Manning or anti BCFC. Even the Dicky player of the month opens with a 'Titanic' reference.

You have a lot of anger towards someone who appears to be stating the bleedin' obvious.

 

I don’t think anyone is anti BCFC; after all everyone is a fan.

What people are anti is the manager who is demonstrably failing, the larger entity of Bristol Sport, and the owner and Board.  They, including me, are anti because we care about long term viability of the club we love

[Superjack]

1 hour ago, Super said:

You understood it.

Eventually. 

Thanks for calling me a classy idiot though. 

 

[slartibartfast]

4 hours ago, DaveF said:

Surely LJ and Manning getting angry would be funny to the players rather than intimidating or motivating? They're hardly Pearson are they... Not exactly blokes you'd be scared of.

Secret vid of the post match rant by LM .

 

[Harry]

Did he really say that he sends them out there with the perfect game plan? 
 

Wow! 

[David Brent]

3 hours ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

There are 22 threads on page 1 of OTIB. 14 of these are anti Manning or anti BCFC. Even the Dicky player of the month opens with a 'Titanic' reference.

You have a lot of anger towards someone who appears to be stating the bleedin' obvious.

 

You are allowed to create your own topics of discussion if you would like. 

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, Harry said:

Did he really say that he sends them out there with the perfect game plan? 
 

Wow! 

And therein lies part of the problem!

Cue @Silvio Dante…

[ProfitInMyPocket]

Think he's had some words in his ear about showing some emotions.

You shouldn't have to say it to get your point across. It should just be natural. 

He isn't an authoritative man. That's what he was hired for. Can't upset the apple cart.

We could finish 21st and he'll still be here. Lord I hope the football gets better to watch.

I'm not particularly bothered about reaching the Prem, just want to see a real hard working identity - battling for the ball, proud to wear our shirt. 

Feels like all the arduous effort and work is being dumped down the drain.

[Mr Popodopolous]

20 minutes ago, ProfitInMyPocket said:

Think he's had some words in his ear about showing some emotions.

You shouldn't have to say it to get your point across. It should just be natural. 

He isn't an authoritative man. That's what he was hired for. Can't upset the apple cart.

We could finish 21st and he'll still be here. Lord I hope the football gets better to watch.

I'm not particularly bothered about reaching the Prem, just want to see a real hard working identity - battling for the ball, proud to wear our shirt. 

Feels like all the arduous effort and work is being dumped down the drain.

Like we had under NP.

We tended it to give it our all, and we looked cohesive and not every game of course, but more often than not fans were happy with the effort and application, especially in the 2nd half of his reign once the financial emergency had subsided.