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Arsenal ripping the Blades apart, four up inside a half hour.

Its a combination of a very slick Arsenal and a desperately poor Blades defence.

Its just a question of how many Arsenal will get.

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The only thing that looks like it will keep this game in single figures is if arsenal drop their intensity. 

Sheffield U were pretty shit last season, only added a couple so no surprise they are where they are. 

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2 minutes ago, Roadrunner said:

No doubt Sheffield U and Burnley  will be in the top 3 next season champoinship.

Yep, bloody depressing this football lark. I doubt I'll ever see us in the Prem, but seeing what has happened to Burnley and Sheff Utd this season, it all seems pretty pointless.

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Sheff U were shite last season I thought. Didn't understand how they got up. Obviously repeated the trick of winning 1 0 despite being terrible a few times.

Burnley were great at dominating at our level but they aren’t managing that in the Prem.

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7 minutes ago, Sniper said:

Yep, bloody depressing this football lark. I doubt I'll ever see us in the Prem, but seeing what has happened to Burnley and Sheff Utd this season, it all seems pretty pointless.

I think Kompany is getting away with it a bit.

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Sheff Utd get lots of stick and rightly so, they are shit! I do find though, especially in the media that Burnley who are on the same points, spent 100m seem to be immune to criticism, probably something to do with the manager but still! 

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The commentator just said xG for arsenal only 1.8, but 5 goals... ok... but before the first went in they had THREE enormous chances. Totally dominating with 80% possession, 16 shots. 7 on target. But only 1.8 xG

 

This stat has always been baffling to me... 

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This game is a reflection of the gulf between the Championship and the Premier League. Something needs to be done to level up financials.  otherwise we are going to get into a situation where every year the promoted teams come straight back down and the relegated teams go straight back up

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1 minute ago, GBF said:

This game is a reflection of the gulf between the Championship and the Premier League. Something needs to be done to level up financials.  otherwise we are going to get into a situation where every year the promoted teams come straight back down and the relegated teams go straight back up

removing FFP, or whatever it's called, is the only way so address this isn't it? 

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2 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

He's a Guardiola disciple which goes a long way in the eyes of the media. Whenever I've watched them this season they're shockingly naive.

Will be interesting to see how Maresca fairs in comparison next season.

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1 minute ago, Northern Red said:

He's a Guardiola disciple which goes a long way in the eyes of the media. Whenever I've watched them this season they're shockingly naive.

breaking up their team and bringing in so many new players, I just think it's such a low chance for success, especially when you try and play like Man City... 

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7 minutes ago, DolmanGaz said:

The commentator just said xG for arsenal only 1.8, but 5 goals... ok... but before the first went in they had THREE enormous chances. Totally dominating with 80% possession, 16 shots. 7 on target. But only 1.8 xG

 

This stat has always been baffling to me... 

It’s based on the statistics of players in that position scoring over the years. And for every Arsenal player that takes a shot from a good position and scores, there’s a Bristol City player who misses.

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24 minutes ago, kit said:

The only thing that looks like it will keep this game in single figures is if arsenal drop their intensity. 

Sheffield U were pretty shit last season, only added a couple so no surprise they are where they are. 

Sold 2 of their best players too, maybe more.

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7 minutes ago, GBF said:

This game is a reflection of the gulf between the Championship and the Premier League. Something needs to be done to level up financials.  otherwise we are going to get into a situation where every year the promoted teams come straight back down and the relegated teams go straight back up

Bournemouth, Fulham, Nottingham Forest all stayed up in 2022-23.

Albeit two of them were Parachute bolstered, something definitely needs to be done.

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Conceded 20 goals in 4 home games, and there's 45 mins left in this one :blush2:

Equaled the record for conceding 5 in a game and they still have to go to Liverpool and Newcastle !

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Just now, 1960maaan said:

Conceded 20 goals in 4 home games, and there's 45 mins left in this one :blush2:

Equaled the record for conceding 5 in a game and they still have to go to Liverpool and Newcastle !

11.5 games left for them. 29 goals to concede to hit 100 for the season. Doable.

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14 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

He's a Guardiola disciple which goes a long way in the eyes of the media. Whenever I've watched them this season they're shockingly naive.

A dogmatic coach who's allowing "principles" and "behaviours" to get in the way of winning football matches?

Good heavens.

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10 minutes ago, Midred said:

That and reducing parachute payments. 

Or…….having a mandatory clause in PL contracts that includes a 75% salary reduction if relegated. No need for parachute payments then.

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13 minutes ago, GBF said:

This game is a reflection of the gulf between the Championship and the Premier League. Something needs to be done to level up financials.  otherwise we are going to get into a situation where every year the promoted teams come straight back down and the relegated teams go straight back up

Isn’t that what the Premier League want though?  

Virtually a closed shop, with just the illusion of free movement between the top two divisions.

The parachute payments will ensure that if one of the bigger clubs had an absolute mare of a season and dropped through the trap door to the Championship, they’d be virtually nailed-on to go straight back up the next season.

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14 minutes ago, spudski said:

Imagine if we ever snuck in via the the playoff's.

Doesn't bare thinking about. Gives me shivers thinking about who would be responsible for recruiting and dealing with the money. 

 

 

Spud if we ever made it would always be about the journey and the joy of promotion.

The season in the Premier would be shite.

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1 minute ago, stephenkibby. said:

Spud if we ever made it would always be about the journey and the joy of promotion.

The season in the Premier would be shite.

My mate's a Norwich fan , hated last year , moaned the whole way through. 

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45 minutes ago, The Bard said:

Sheff U were shite last season I thought. Didn't understand how they got up. Obviously repeated the trick of winning 1 0 despite being terrible a few times.

Burnley were great at dominating at our level but they aren’t managing that in the Prem.

A workmanlike team like with a couple / few “difference makers” like N’Diaye and Berge.

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Watching this, it makes you wonder what level of embarrassment you would accept in the Premier League.

I don't mind the idea of being promoted to the Prem, instantly relegated back to the Championship, then using the parachute payments to build towards a more sustainable crack at the Premier League.

However, I don't think I'd take that offer if it were as humiliating for us as it has been for this Sheffield United side, or Derby back in 2007/08.

So that's the question - how bad would we have to be in the Prem before you thought "Actually, I'd rather we just never got promoted"?

 

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34 minutes ago, spudski said:

Imagine if we ever snuck in via the the playoff's.

Doesn't bare thinking about. Gives me shivers thinking about who would be responsible for recruiting and dealing with the money. 

 

 

We are so far off a Prem club. 

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Just now, Supersonic Robin said:

Watching this, it makes you wonder what level of embarrassment you would accept in the Premier League.

I don't mind the idea of being promoted to the Prem, instantly relegated back to the Championship, then using the parachute payments to build towards a more sustainable crack at the Premier League.

However, I don't think I'd take that offer if it were as humiliating for us as it has been for this Sheffield United side, or Derby back in 2007/08.

So that's the question - how bad would we have to be in the Prem before you thought "Actually, I'd rather we just never got promoted"?

 

I wouldn't care how bad it got just make a change for a season. Luton have showed that you can compete when going up.

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5 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said:

Watching this, it makes you wonder what level of embarrassment you would accept in the Premier League.

I don't mind the idea of being promoted to the Prem, instantly relegated back to the Championship, then using the parachute payments to build towards a more sustainable crack at the Premier League.

However, I don't think I'd take that offer if it were as humiliating for us as it has been for this Sheffield United side, or Derby back in 2007/08.

So that's the question - how bad would we have to be in the Prem before you thought "Actually, I'd rather we just never got promoted"?

 

even if it was horrendous, and I fumed at the VAR decisions, and all the diving, and the rest of the circus... it would be worth it just to get that monkey off our back...

 

fed up being 'prem ready', etc

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1 minute ago, Curr Avon said:

It’s the best way to watch City.

One of my Grandkids will be at his first game Sunday.

Will he hooked for life or never again? City win could be back. Defeat against Swansea toxic atmosphere who knows. 

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2 minutes ago, stephenkibby. said:

One of my Grandkids will be at his first game Sunday.

Will he hooked for life or never again? City win could be back. Defeat against Swansea toxic atmosphere who knows. 


What’s he done wrong? 

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16 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said:

Watching this, it makes you wonder what level of embarrassment you would accept in the Premier League.

I don't mind the idea of being promoted to the Prem, instantly relegated back to the Championship, then using the parachute payments to build towards a more sustainable crack at the Premier League.

However, I don't think I'd take that offer if it were as humiliating for us as it has been for this Sheffield United side, or Derby back in 2007/08.

So that's the question - how bad would we have to be in the Prem before you thought "Actually, I'd rather we just never got promoted"?

 

Joy of promotion and 3 months euphoria.

Then 9 months of meltdown on here.

What more could we want?

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30 minutes ago, stephenkibby. said:

Spud if we ever made it would always be about the journey and the joy of promotion.

The season in the Premier would be shite.

Agreed...but I'd enjoy it more if we did it the right way. 

15 minutes ago, RollsRoyce said:

We are so far off a Prem club. 

So were Sheff Utd imo. 

ATM...we are nearer league 1.

 

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45 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Or…….having a mandatory clause in PL contracts that includes a 75% salary reduction if relegated. No need for parachute payments then.

You'd need to call it a mandatory 300% Premier League bonus to get it past the PFA.

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