BT

[DJI]

Sense of honesty. As people have rightfully said, LM saw this job as a bigger and better step for his career. I am sure he came to us with every good intention. What I think he didn't factor in at any stage was BT involvement. I think he is pulling all the strings at the moment, he can baffle JL with his football knowledge, he can hoodwink academy players with his involvement generally and he can dictate to LM on a daily basis as he can probably opt when to pull the plug. I don't think it's rocket science either that certain players have had enough, they perform in the big games in the hope of a move and could really care about the lower matches as they don't see their futures at lower clubs. Tonight will be a good example I feel. I was of the opinion that NP time was probably up and I felt a young manager with good coaches supporting him might be the answer, what i didn't expect was BT becoming the background manager in what really now is his 2nd spell in charge.

answer. Get rid  of BT now, give LM the chance to show us if he is capable without others interference. See  if he can manage and coach the players in a way that they support him , their team mates and the fans. 

 

[BigTone]

9 minutes ago, DJI said:

Sense of honesty. As people have rightfully said, LM saw this job as a bigger and better step for his career. I am sure he came to us with every good intention. What I think he didn't factor in at any stage was BT involvement. I think he is pulling all the strings at the moment, he can baffle JL with his football knowledge, he can hoodwink academy players with his involvement generally and he can dictate to LM on a daily basis as he can probably opt when to pull the plug. I don't think it's rocket science either that certain players have had enough, they perform in the big games in the hope of a move and could really care about the lower matches as they don't see their futures at lower clubs. Tonight will be a good example I feel. I was of the opinion that NP time was probably up and I felt a young manager with good coaches supporting him might be the answer, what i didn't expect was BT becoming the background manager in what really now is his 2nd spell in charge.

answer. Get rid  of BT now, give LM the chance to show us if he is capable without others interference. See  if he can manage and coach the players in a way that they support him , their team mates and the fans. 

 

LM is the problem not BT. To put it bluntly as a manager and motivator he is shite.

Edited March 5 by BigTone

[Selred]

1 hour ago, BigTone said:

LM is the problem not BT. To put it bluntly as a manager and motivator he is shite.

LM potentially isn't the right man for the job.

BT isn't the right man for the job, as he hired Manning. He shouldn't be allowed to hire Mannings replacement.

Both are the problem.

[exAtyeoMax]

1 hour ago, DJI said:

Sense of honesty. As people have rightfully said, LM saw this job as a bigger and better step for his career. I am sure he came to us with every good intention. What I think he didn't factor in at any stage was BT involvement. I think he is pulling all the strings at the moment, he can baffle JL with his football knowledge, he can hoodwink academy players with his involvement generally and he can dictate to LM on a daily basis as he can probably opt when to pull the plug. I don't think it's rocket science either that certain players have had enough, they perform in the big games in the hope of a move and could really care about the lower matches as they don't see their futures at lower clubs. Tonight will be a good example I feel. I was of the opinion that NP time was probably up and I felt a young manager with good coaches supporting him might be the answer, what i didn't expect was BT becoming the background manager in what really now is his 2nd spell in charge.

answer. Get rid  of BT now, give LM the chance to show us if he is capable without others interference. See  if he can manage and coach the players in a way that they support him , their team mates and the fans. 

 

I would too but I'm not sure that LM is good enough to manage the team on his own 

[The Original OTIB]

BT? Is he qualified? Has he got an ology?

[robinforlife2]

Just what this forum needed, another Tinnion and Manning thread. 

[The Original OTIB]

2 minutes ago, robinforlife2 said:

Just what this forum needed, another Tinnion and Manning thread. 

Super will be along in a minute ...

[The Original OTIB]

2 minutes ago, robinforlife2 said:

Just what this forum needed, another Tinnion and Manning thread. 

Agreed, a bit out of hand now, but there you are. Not a big deal for me, though odd when some of the slightly more level headed contributors simply rehash other threads themselves. It's if they want to win the day or something ... 

[1team]

6 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said:

BT? Is he qualified? Has he got an ology?

Shame his initials aren't BG. Could've resurrected "Tell Sid". 

[CodeRed]

16 minutes ago, Selred said:

LM potentially isn't the right man for the job.

BT isn't the right man for the job, as he hired Manning. He shouldn't be allowed to hire Mannings replacement.

Both are the problem.

Exactly, shows what a f uckwit BT is to think Manning could lead this club, 2 minutes listening to him drone on and I'd be 'thanks we'll be in touch and watch the door doesn't bang your ass on the way out'

[Silvio Dante]

14 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said:

Agreed, a bit out of hand now, but there you are. Not a big deal for me, though odd when some of the slightly more level headed contributors simply rehash other threads themselves. It's if they want to win the day or something ... 

Hang on….there are level headed contributors???

[Homer Simpson]

23 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said:

BT? Is he qualified? Has he got an ology?

He's got a Teknology.

[extonsred]

32 minutes ago, Selred said:

LM potentially isn't the right man for the job.

BT isn't the right man for the job, as he hired Manning. He shouldn't be allowed to hire Mannings replacement.

Both are the problem.

Put JL in with them please!

[Mendip City]

14 minutes ago, CodeRed said:

Exactly, shows what a f uckwit BT is to think Manning could lead this club, 2 minutes listening to him drone on and I'd be 'thanks we'll be in touch and watch the door doesn't bang your ass on the way out'

Imagine the interview - those two droning on with  JL doodling new badges and not paying attention. 

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

Tinnion has probably had a promotion too far. It wasn't that long ago that he was viewed as a genius skillfully placing academy kids out on loan, monitoring their progress and feeding back information when they might advance to the 1st team squad. Funny how things change. 

Edited March 5 by RoystonFoote'snephew
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[Selred]

18 minutes ago, CodeRed said:

Exactly, shows what a f uckwit BT is to think Manning could lead this club, 2 minutes listening to him drone on and I'd be 'thanks we'll be in touch and watch the door doesn't bang your ass on the way out'

At the time Oxford were 2nd (now 7th), he was also unlucky to not get MK Dons promoted. 

His CV was okay, you can't judge just on personality.

[Davefevs]

37 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said:

BT? Is he qualified? Has he got an ology?

 

29 minutes ago, 1team said:

Shame his initials aren't BG. Could've resurrected "Tell Sid". 

 

13 minutes ago, Homer Simpson said:

He's got a Teknology.

Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant.

[glastored]

2 hours ago, DJI said:

Sense of honesty. As people have rightfully said, LM saw this job as a bigger and better step for his career. I am sure he came to us with every good intention. What I think he didn't factor in at any stage was BT involvement. I think he is pulling all the strings at the moment, he can baffle JL with his football knowledge, he can hoodwink academy players with his involvement generally and he can dictate to LM on a daily basis as he can probably opt when to pull the plug. I don't think it's rocket science either that certain players have had enough, they perform in the big games in the hope of a move and could really care about the lower matches as they don't see their futures at lower clubs. Tonight will be a good example I feel. I was of the opinion that NP time was probably up and I felt a young manager with good coaches supporting him might be the answer, what i didn't expect was BT becoming the background manager in what really now is his 2nd spell in charge.

answer. Get rid  of BT now, give LM the chance to show us if he is capable without others interference. See  if he can manage and coach the players in a way that they support him , their team mates and the fans. 

 

But Tinnion’s job is as director of football, that’s his job! The rest is pure speculation 

[Super]

40 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said:

Super will be along in a minute ...

[The Original OTIB]

30 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Hang on….there are level headed contributors???

Only those who repeatedly hit themselves over the head with a mallet. Therapeutic for this place.

10 minutes ago, Super said:

You're late!

[Bazooka Joe]

1 hour ago, The Original OTIB said:

BT? Is he qualified? Has he got an ology?

He most certainly has . .. . Bulls**tology.

[The Bard]

34 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

Tinnion has probably had a promotion too far. It wasn't that long ago that he was viewed as a genius skillfully placing academy kids out on loan, monitoring their progress and feeding back information when they might advance to the 1st team squad. Funny how things change. 

Very generous use of the word probably there Royston.

 

[Robbored]

I really don’t get why Tinnion gets all this bad press. What’s he said or done to deserve all the grief he’s getting?

Can anyone explain why he’s the number one fall guy?

[petehinton]

1 hour ago, Selred said:

LM potentially isn't the right man for the job.

BT isn't the right man for the job, as he hired Manning. He shouldn't be allowed to hire Mannings replacement.

Both are the problem.

Said early on, and I feel even more strongly now, LM is an excellent coach and will coach/manage at the highest level imo, but not with us. 
 

Square peg, round hole. 

[BigTone]

7 minutes ago, petehinton said:

Said early on, and I feel even more strongly now, LM is an excellent coach and will coach/manage at the highest level imo, but not with us. 
 

Square peg, round hole. 

In other words, shite

[East Londoner]

16 minutes ago, Robbored said:

I really don’t get why Tinnion gets all this bad press. What’s he said or done to deserve all the grief he’s getting?

Can anyone explain why he’s the number one fall guy?

The current situation seems to have been of his making, starting with getting rid of Pearson and being responsible for his replacement 

Has very clearly been over promoted and has the ear of the chairman which is a potentially dangerous combination 

[CodeRed]

52 minutes ago, Selred said:

At the time Oxford were 2nd (now 7th), he was also unlucky to not get MK Dons promoted. 

His CV was okay, you can't judge just on personality.

OK ? He had less EFL management experience than LJ when he was appointed and MK were bottom of the league when he was sacked.

I was going to say he's learning on the job but he's not actually even doing that.

[Gert Mare]

NP did NOT take us as far as he could. Jesus wept!

[Robbored]

15 minutes ago, East Londoner said:

The current situation seems to have been of his making, starting with getting rid of Pearson and being responsible for his replacement 

Has very clearly been over promoted and has the ear of the chairman which is a potentially dangerous combination 

Has anyone got any actual evidence that BT got rid of Nige? I thought it was JL that wanted him gone after his comments just over a year ago that he was expecting City to have progressed further.

[Shauntaylor85]

1 hour ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

Tinnion has probably had a promotion too far. It wasn't that long ago that he was viewed as a genius skillfully placing academy kids out on loan, monitoring their progress and feeding back information when they might advance to the 1st team squad. Funny how things change. 

Not what you know, who you know. I’m still waiting for Millen to come back as CFO. 

[Laner]

If we're doing well BT will no doubt take credit. Equally then, if we're doing badly he is part of the problem too.

[One Team]

29 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Has anyone got any actual evidence that BT got rid of Nige? I thought it was JL that wanted him gone after his comments just over a year ago that he was expecting City to have progressed further.

It wasn’t him on his own but he was a key part of it. 

[Davefevs]

5 minutes ago, One Team said:

It wasn’t him on his own but he was a key part of it. 

Exactly.

I’ve got no real beef with Tinnion, but can you imagine JL or GM or SL just announcing to BT - we are gonna sack Nige.  He’s the Technical Director, of course he was involved in it.

[Robbored]

5 minutes ago, One Team said:

It wasn’t him on his own but he was a key part of it. 

This reminds of “smoke and mirrors” scenario - how do any of us know how much Tinnion was involved in Nige’s departure? is he being scapegoated? Was he involved at all?

The bottom line is that none of us know what goes on within the AG hierarchy. It’s a secretive set as it is many professional football clubs.

[One Team]

7 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Exactly.

I’ve got no real beef with Tinnion, but can you imagine JL or GM or SL just announcing to BT - we are gonna sack Nige.  He’s the Technical Director, of course he was involved in it.

Indeed Fevs. I have been very reliably informed he was. 

[Davefevs]

3 minutes ago, Robbored said:

This reminds of “smoke and mirrors” scenario - how do any of us know how much Tinnion was involved in Nige’s departure? is he being scapegoated? Was he involved at all?

The bottom line is that none of us know what goes on within the AG hierarchy. It’s a secretive set as it is many professional football clubs.

I think you’re being incredibly naive if you think he wasn’t and he’s being scapegoated.  So, they sacked Nige, Phil, Dave, Jason and Curtis, but the only man left in that structure had no involvement.

okayyyyyyyy!

Edited March 5 by Davefevs

[Robbored]

6 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Exactly.

I’ve got no real beef with Tinnion, but can you imagine JL or GM or SL just announcing to BT - we are gonna sack Nige.  He’s the Technical Director, of course he was involved in it.

Assuming that BT was involved but not his individual decision - does he really deserve all the criticism aimed at him?

My understanding of Nige getting sacked was down to JL and of course the main man, SL.

[spudski]

3 minutes ago, Robbored said:

This reminds of “smoke and mirrors” scenario - how do any of us know how much Tinnion was involved in Nige’s departure? is he being scapegoated? Was he involved at all?

The bottom line is that none of us know what goes on within the AG hierarchy. It’s a secretive set as it is many professional football clubs.

Cmon RR...you can't be serious?

Of course he was involved. He's the footballing technical director. The guy running the football side of the show. 

JL isn't going to sack NP on his own. In fact it was most likely a directive from BT to JL to dismiss. 

Can you imagine JL saying to BT he's going to sack NP if BT supported NP. Not a chance. 

[Robbored]

3 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I think you’re being incredibly naive if you think he wasn’t and he’s being scapegoated.  So, they sacked Nige, Phil, Dave, Jason and Curtis, but the only man left in that structure had no involvement.

I don’t think that BT should get all the blame when, as suggested sacking Nige was a combined decision in which JL and his dad would have had the final word.

Hence the word “scapegoated’ - certainly by many posters on here

[steviestevieneville]

13 minutes ago, Robbored said:

This reminds of “smoke and mirrors” scenario - how do any of us know how much Tinnion was involved in Nige’s departure? is he being scapegoated? Was he involved at all?

The bottom line is that none of us know what goes on within the AG hierarchy. It’s a secretive set as it is many professional football clubs.

Oh get a grip man . He’s the bloody technical director. In other words overseeing all football matters . Of course he was heavily involved 

[Robbored]

8 minutes ago, spudski said:

Cmon RR...you can't be serious?

Of course he was involved. He's the footballing technical director. The guy running the football side of the show. 

JL isn't going to sack NP on his own. In fact it was most likely a directive from BT to JL to dismiss. 

Can you imagine JL saying to BT he's going to sack NP if BT supported NP. Not a chance. 

Hmmmm……..JL is omniscient within AG, since his dad is pretty much retired. 

Not that it matters now but I wouldn’t be in the slightest bit surprised if JL took the decision in isolation.

[spudski]

Just now, Robbored said:

Hmmmm……..JL is omniscient within AG, since his dad is pretty much retired. 

Not that it matters now but I wouldn’t be in the slightest bit surprised if JL took the decision in isolation.

Seriously RR...that's nuts. 

If BT had wanted NP here, and JL had sacked NP on a whim, because he could, BT would have gone nuts. 

The amount of time put into the players, recruitment, analysis, money, contracts etc etc...you just don't sack someone on a whim. 

This sacking was planned months ahead....hence no money being given to NP. 

They were just biding their time. 

JL won't be making decisions...he will be getting advice from BT. This was led by the footballing side of the club and signed off by JL and SL. 

 

[Davefevs]

14 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Hmmmm……..JL is omniscient within AG, since his dad is pretty much retired. 

Not that it matters now but I wouldn’t be in the slightest bit surprised if JL took the decision in isolation.

You are naive then…confirmed!

[Robbored]

6 minutes ago, spudski said:

Seriously RR...that's nuts. 

If BT had wanted NP here, and JL had sacked NP on a whim, because he could, BT would have gone nuts. 

The amount of time put into the players, recruitment, analysis, money, contracts etc etc...you just don't sack someone on a whim. 

This sacking was planned months ahead....hence no money being given to NP. 

They were just biding their time. 

JL won't be making decisions...he will be getting advice from BT. This was led by the footballing side of the club and signed off by JL and SL. 

 

That’s definitely true Spud and Nige knew it.

I remember JL bemoaning the ‘lack of progress’ publicly about a year ago. He got slated on here Iirc.

[Superjack]

24 minutes ago, Robbored said:

I don’t think that BT should get all the blame when, as suggested sacking Nige was a combined decision in which JL and his dad would have had the final word.

Hence the word “scapegoated’ - certainly by many posters on here

Tinnion was the one working with Pearson on a day to day basis. 

He's the one that stabbed him in the back.

Edited March 5 by Superjack

[sh1t_ref_again]

5 hours ago, DJI said:

Sense of honesty. As people have rightfully said, LM saw this job as a bigger and better step for his career. I am sure he came to us with every good intention. What I think he didn't factor in at any stage was BT involvement. I think he is pulling all the strings at the moment, he can baffle JL with his football knowledge, he can hoodwink academy players with his involvement generally and he can dictate to LM on a daily basis as he can probably opt when to pull the plug. I don't think it's rocket science either that certain players have had enough, they perform in the big games in the hope of a move and could really care about the lower matches as they don't see their futures at lower clubs. Tonight will be a good example I feel. I was of the opinion that NP time was probably up and I felt a young manager with good coaches supporting him might be the answer, what i didn't expect was BT becoming the background manager in what really now is his 2nd spell in charge.

answer. Get rid  of BT now, give LM the chance to show us if he is capable without others interference. See  if he can manage and coach the players in a way that they support him , their team mates and the fans. 

 

And you have inside knowledge to know this is correct?

[spudski]

1 minute ago, Robbored said:

That’s definitely true Spud and Nige knew it.

I remember JL bemoaning the ‘lack of progress’ publicly about a year ago. He got slated on here Iirc.

JL wouldn't be holding back money if BT was behind NP. 

You imo, are giving way too much ' authority's to JL. 

Imagine... ' High Jon, it's Dad...I see you want to sack NP? Yes Dad...he broke my crayons. Regardless of that Jon...have you spoken to Brian? Yes Dad...he wants to keep NP. But I'm going to over rule him. But Jon...you know **** all about football, that's why we've put Brian in place to run the footballing side. I suggest you speak to him and listen to his guidance....But Dad...he hurt my feelings...shut up Jon, listen to Brian.'

[BarnzFM]

Painting BT as some kind of evil genius is a bit of a stretch 

[exAtyeoMax]

Just now, BarnzFM said:

Painting BT as some kind of evil genius is a bit of a stretch 

he doesn't need to be a genius…

that people suspect him makes him a numpty

[Superjack]

1 minute ago, BarnzFM said:

Painting BT as some kind of evil genius is a bit of a stretch 

It certainly is. 

He's the opposite of a genius.

[steviestevieneville]

10 minutes ago, BarnzFM said:

Painting BT as some kind of evil genius is a bit of a stretch 

True. He ain’t no genius 

[DJI]

7 hours ago, DJI said:

Sense of honesty. As people have rightfully said, LM saw this job as a bigger and better step for his career. I am sure he came to us with every good intention. What I think he didn't factor in at any stage was BT involvement. I think he is pulling all the strings at the moment, he can baffle JL with his football knowledge, he can hoodwink academy players with his involvement generally and he can dictate to LM on a daily basis as he can probably opt when to pull the plug. I don't think it's rocket science either that certain players have had enough, they perform in the big games in the hope of a move and could really care about the lower matches as they don't see their futures at lower clubs. Tonight will be a good example I feel. I was of the opinion that NP time was probably up and I felt a young manager with good coaches supporting him might be the answer, what i didn't expect was BT becoming the background manager in what really now is his 2nd spell in charge.

answer. Get rid  of BT now, give LM the chance to show us if he is capable without others interference. See  if he can manage and coach the players in a way that they support him , their team mates and the fans. 

 

Watching tonight, maybe I am not wrong. Great effort from the players in a showcase match. Strangely though the last 10-15mins we weren't pressing so much. A reaction as promised but can't hold a lead, yes Ipswich were good but we're they better than us for the first 75 mins, I think not. This was Mannings football I think, not BT but let's see what's served up against Swansea, must win game I would argue but not on Sky and not a team most of our players would be keen on joining. If I was a betting man I would say another loss on the cards. 

[cidercity1987]

5 hours ago, Robbored said:

I really don’t get why Tinnion gets all this bad press. What’s he said or done to deserve all the grief he’s getting?

Can anyone explain why he’s the number one fall guy?

First major decision in a new role he is unqualified for was to sack Nige and appoint Manning.

Absolute gross negligence and incompetence of the highest order.

Picture of him overseeing training on Mannings first day scared the living shit out of me.

Too weird all around and he must go

[Robbored]

3 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

First major decision in a new role he is unqualified for was to sack Nige and appoint Manning.

Absolute gross negligence and incompetence of the highest order.

Picture of him overseeing training on Mannings first day scared the living shit out of me.

Too weird all around and he must go

Got any evidence of that? Seems odd to me that BT could make that kind of decision.

[Sheltons Army]

Blimey 

The embarrassing forum troll still getting bites

Ignore him guys

[steviestevieneville]

6 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Got any evidence of that? Seems odd to me that BT could make that kind of decision.

Genuine question . Are you stupid ? Can you really not know how it works. I’ve said to you once already . HE IS IN CONTROL OF ALL FOOTBALL MATTERS. JL has admitted he knows nothing about the game . He takes his advice from tinnion . Manning is 100% tinnions appointment . A young inexperienced coach that can be manipulated . He will tow the party line that Pearson wouldn’t 

[Jerseybean]

8 hours ago, DJI said:

Sense of honesty. As people have rightfully said, LM saw this job as a bigger and better step for his career. I am sure he came to us with every good intention. What I think he didn't factor in at any stage was BT involvement. I think he is pulling all the strings at the moment, he can baffle JL with his football knowledge, he can hoodwink academy players with his involvement generally and he can dictate to LM on a daily basis as he can probably opt when to pull the plug. I don't think it's rocket science either that certain players have had enough, they perform in the big games in the hope of a move and could really care about the lower matches as they don't see their futures at lower clubs. Tonight will be a good example I feel. I was of the opinion that NP time was probably up and I felt a young manager with good coaches supporting him might be the answer, what i didn't expect was BT becoming the background manager in what really now is his 2nd spell in charge.

answer. Get rid  of BT now, give LM the chance to show us if he is capable without others interference. See  if he can manage and coach the players in a way that they support him , their team mates and the fans. 

 

Genuine questions 

1 what football qualifications does BT have?

2 what does his job description as Technical Director encompass?

3 who is he accountable to?  

[GrahamC]

14 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

Genuine question . Are you stupid ? Can you really not know how it works. I’ve said to you once already . HE IS IN CONTROL OF ALL FOOTBALL MATTERS. JL has admitted he knows nothing about the game . He takes his advice from tinnion . Manning is 100% tinnions appointment . A young inexperienced coach that can be manipulated . He will tow the party line that Pearson wouldn’t 

Yes he is.

Don’t bother arguing with him, he’ll just keep repeating the same inane argument ad nauseam.

Even when confronted with clear contrary evidence (like the nonsense he regularly spouts about the Hull playoff final) he doubles down.

Not worth it.

 

 

[Superjack]

1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

Yes he is.

Don’t bother arguing with him, he’ll just keep repeating the same inane argument ad nauseam.

Even when confronted with clear contrary evidence (like the nonsense he regularly spouts about the Hull playoff final) he doubles down.

Not worth it.

 

 

He really should be a Lansdown.

[westonred]

I hope the board realise that it is not working under BT in the summer and get rid. He was a great player but awful manager and if he is responsible for recruitment that deserves a sacking on its own.. Leave him to oversee the youth set up if you like but dont let him have any input into 1st team affairs he seems to have too much influence

[Shauntaylor85]

1 minute ago, westonred said:

I hope the board realise that it is not working under BT in the summer and get rid. He was a great player but awful manager and if he is responsible for recruitment that deserves a sacking on its own.. Leave him to oversee the youth set up if you like but dont let him have any input into 1st team affairs he seems to have too much influence

Tinnion does need to go, still cannot believe he was given that role. Stay as a club legend player side and leave it at that. 

[SecretSam]

Back in the day, City had a terrible habit of appointing from within, without the person appointed having any real merit. "Jobs for the boys" - and it was obvious that some right rubbish got jobs, in all sorts of roles.

Would Tinman (sadly) fall into that category? He did an amazing job with the academy. Maybe he needs a strong person to stand up to him, say...Gould. 

[Tomo]

41 minutes ago, westonred said:

I hope the board realise that it is not working under BT in the summer and get rid. He was a great player but awful manager and if he is responsible for recruitment that deserves a sacking on its own.. Leave him to oversee the youth set up if you like but dont let him have any input into 1st team affairs he seems to have too much influence

To be fair to BT 'the manager' he only had 1 full season in 2004/2005 and we finished 1 point off the play offs, finishing in 7th place.

However, I agree that he should have stayed in his academy job role though, it was the perfect role for him at the club...

 

 

Edited March 6 by Tomo

[Floatn Over]

17 minutes ago, westonred said:

I hope the board realise that it is not working under BT in the summer and get rid. He was a great player but awful manager and if he is responsible for recruitment that deserves a sacking on its own.. Leave him to oversee the youth set up if you like but dont let him have any input into 1st team affairs he seems to have too much influence

BT’s influence on how/if we are able to release the purse strings in the summer worries me in that it will all be directed towards acquiring young players to develop.

Max Bird might be able to step up but whilst the philosophy of acquiring from the likes of Aldershot and League of Ireland is good and needs to continue, surely it must not be applied fully.

We need to bring in some Championship experience and I have no faith that BT will go down that route with part of the allegedly available nest egg.  In his Radio B interview one of the statements was about the importance of getting a “big number 9” that is/may be right but (a) where is that player going to be recruited from and at what age and (b) little point if others to provide the service are not going to be brought in.

Out of our reach wage wise for sure but someone like Chris Wood would perhaps do this club good but this level of experienced player would frighten the life out of BT and possibly LM also.

BT confuses IMO the success of finding and developing young players (and selling some on) with the success of the club on the pitch in the present.

[Selred]

1 hour ago, Tomo said:

To be fair to BT 'the manager' he only had 1 full season in 2004/2005 and we finished 1 point off the play offs, finishing in 7th place.

 

Why is that being fair? The season before we lost in the play off final. The next season we had Leroy Lita scoring 24 goals that season. It was a massive failure. 

[GrahamC]

5 minutes ago, Selred said:

Why is that being fair? The season before we lost in the play off final. The next season we had Leroy Lita scoring 24 goals that season. It was a massive failure. 

100%, we made the playoffs in the previous two seasons, he then took us backwards & in his second season brought in loads of absolutely disastrous signings.

[Fuber]

14 hours ago, Robbored said:

I don’t think that BT should get all the blame when, as suggested sacking Nige was a combined decision in which JL and his dad would have had the final word.

Hence the word “scapegoated’ - certainly by many posters on here

He's the only one of the three ultimately sackeable.

That's the difference.

[Selred]

3 hours ago, GrahamC said:

100%, we made the playoffs in the previous two seasons, he then took us backwards & in his second season brought in loads of absolutely disastrous signings.

Signing players with no thoughts on style? My technikal director.

[RollsRoyce]

Judge me on Tinnion - Lansdown 2005

He hates being wrong doesn't he, wounded the first time, he has allowed him back into prime time to prove a point. Steve, we judged you the first time, 2 decades have not changed anything. 

Third time lucky is not allowed either.

[Graham76]

Looking back at Tinnion's "see you in the premiership" tweet, it makes you wonder whether he genuinely believes we are a top 6 squad.  Insane to think both Pearson and Manning could end up being sacked because of it.