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Think it’s transparent he’s off this summer.

Thought Wells did a decent job last night & was very unlucky with the one that hit the bar but expect TC thinks he should be starting ahead of him.

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12 minutes ago, Roadrunner said:

Did not look happy when he entered the pitch. Not a smile when he scored a brilliant goal, from a brilliant cross. I wonder why.

Not sure what he has to be unhappy about. Being paid a decent wage to play football - and not very well lately I may add 

 

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3 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Think it’s transparent he’s off this summer.

Thought Wells did a decent job last night & was very unlucky with the one that hit the bar but expect TC thinks he should be starting ahead of him.

Conway should be starting every game ahead of a 33 year old Nahki Wells who has scored 1 goal since September.

That run he did last night was lovely but he'd done the hard part and just had to tuck it home but scooped it so high it hit the point of post and bar.

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13 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Think it’s transparent he’s off this summer.

Thought Wells did a decent job last night & was very unlucky with the one that hit the bar but expect TC thinks he should be starting ahead of him.

His should be starting - 1st half last few games chances have fallen for Wells that Tommy puts away, usually time he gets on the service/opportunities are drying up.

Rightly would be pissed especially as he’s a fan -  probably spending his days off visiting places like Glasgow, Bournemouth etc scoping where he’s living next season. It won’t be here.

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1 hour ago, Roadrunner said:

Did not look happy when he entered the pitch. Not a smile when he scored a brilliant goal, from a brilliant cross. I wonder why.

It’s not revisionism on my part but I posted he didn’t look happy the moment the change in management happened.  It’s been pretty clear to me despite the club interview where he claimed all is great!  Still got it though when he gets a chance.   That finish was grade A yesterday evening, absolutely superb.  

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2 minutes ago, lenred said:

It’s not revisionism on my part but I posted he didn’t look happy the moment the change in management happened.  It’s been pretty clear to me despite the club interview where he claimed all is great!  Still got it though when he gets a chance though.   That finish was grade A yesterday evening, absolutely superb.  

Agreed. I think  Tommy was one of the first to post on twitter, when Nige was removed, 'Gutted'.

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24 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Think it’s transparent he’s off this summer.

Thought Wells did a decent job last night & was very unlucky with the one that hit the bar but expect TC thinks he should be starting ahead of him.

Should certainly be starting ahead of Knight in the advanced no.10 role. With Wells not instead of.

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35 minutes ago, Roadrunner said:

Did not look happy when he entered the pitch. Not a smile when he scored a brilliant goal, from a brilliant cross. I wonder why.

His body language is always like that, talk about trying to find something to moan about for the sake of it

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22 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

Should certainly be starting ahead of Knight in the advanced no.10 role. With Wells not instead of.

This, I think Tommy would like to start alongside Nakhi and not instead of him.

I think you’ll find TC actually thinks highly of Nakhi from their time together in the under 21s with Nakhi as a role model

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Where has this sudden idea come from that Conway isn't very good at pressing? That was one of his main strengths until Manning coached it out of him. 

Conway was more than capable of playing in the role Knight played in last night alongside Wells. 

You then can move Knight in to midfield where his qualities can shine. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Where has this sudden idea come from that Conway isn't very good at pressing? That was one of his main strengths until Manning coached it out of him. 

Conway was more than capable of playing in the role Knight played in last night alongside Wells. 

You then can move Knight in to midfield where his qualities can shine. 

 

 

Totally agree ! We don’t have legs in the midfield but we waste probably the fittest player in the squad in a pressing role up top.

Knight is a midfielder not a front man 

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55 minutes ago, Andy082005 said:

Not sure what he has to be unhappy about. Being paid a decent wage to play football - and not very well lately I may add 

 

He doesn't suit the system, the problem isn't Tommy, the problem is what Tommy is being asked to do,

He's been asked to play as a loan striker with his back to goal, that doesn't suit his physical make up or his ability,

He's better off playing in a front too, and getting on the end of crosses from a wide man or strike partner

He thrived under Pearson style and is struggling under mannings style

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35 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

He doesn't suit the system, the problem isn't Tommy, the problem is what Tommy is being asked to do,

He's been asked to play as a loan striker with his back to goal, that doesn't suit his physical make up or his ability,

He's better off playing in a front too, and getting on the end of crosses from a wide man or strike partner

He thrived under Pearson style and is struggling under mannings style

Yes and we will lose him without a shadow. Think decision has been made to cash in, no sign of new deal and he seems unhappy. 

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Get the impression Conway is a bit of a dick in all honesty. I’m sure he will do well elsewhere, but for the relatively short time in our first team, he thinks he is way above our station.

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11 minutes ago, Lew-T said:

Get the impression Conway is a bit of a dick in all honesty. I’m sure he will do well elsewhere, but for the relatively short time in our first team, he thinks he is way above our station.

Have you actually spoken to him or met him or know him personally?

 

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2 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Where has this sudden idea come from that Conway isn't very good at pressing? That was one of his main strengths until Manning coached it out of him. 

Ahh of course it is all down to Manning again 

1 hour ago, Monkeh said:

Have you actually spoken to him or met him or know him personally?

 

Should have been the reply to the OP as well

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His celebration wasn’t a happy one when he scored yesterday, looked like he was looking towards someone making a very stern face, only time I seen him smile lately is for the mascots 

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3 hours ago, Andy082005 said:

Not sure what he has to be unhappy about. Being paid a decent wage to play football - and not very well lately I may add 

 

The nonsense money argument aside, why has he not been playing well lately?

Because we've gone from setting up to play to his strengths to restricting him to a thankless task of controlling a press and feeding on scraps.

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3 hours ago, phantom said:

His body language is always like that, talk about trying to find something to moan about for the sake of it

I remember people saying the same about Brett Pitman. Like Tom, he just has one of those grim-looking faces on pitch. Didn't stop Pitman scoring some important goals from us and doing well elsewhere before the ill-advised move to the Fewers saw him never work in League football again! :laughcont: Scored seven in one game at Wessex League level mind you, in December. 

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I just think that is how Tommy is a bit like that, but he looked happy when he scored against WHU. Stunning header though, add those to the cup goals and that is why he is off this summer. He has plenty of suitors. He has a great future in the game. 

I prefer it when he is with Wells on the pitch

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I've still got some reservations about Tommy's all round game but there is no doubt that his finish last night was pure quality.

I think he will leave in the summer, but goals like the one last night should keep a lot of clubs interested in him and may add a few quid to the fee.

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Watching Tommy's goal last night, it reminded me more of a counter attack of old

Longish ball up the wing and a quick cross into the box from the byline.

Not a backward pass in sight

This is the sort of service Tommy has been lacking since L M's arrival.

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13 minutes ago, Back of the Dolman said:

So can I assume just the one meeting or more ?

could just be you let him at the wrong time, we all have bad days where people’s opinions might be different to how we actually are.

Clutching at straws bud, body language says Lew is right.

Very happy chappy whenever he's scored before, beaming.

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19 minutes ago, Back of the Dolman said:

So can I assume just the one meeting or more ?

could just be you let him at the wrong time, we all have bad days where people’s opinions might be different to how we actually are.

He's his best mate.

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4 hours ago, phantom said:

His body language is always like that, talk about trying to find something to moan about for the sake of it

Really? It wasn’t a moan either. It was a valid observation. Feel free to find footage of him scoring a goal and looking so angry/frustrated. He’s normally all smiles. 

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5 minutes ago, Galley is our king said:

Clutching at straws bud, body language says Lew is right.

Very happy chappy whenever he's scored before, beaming.

He may not be happy at the moment but Lew didn’t say that.

he said that he got the impression that TC is a bit of a dick.

those are different things 

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25 minutes ago, Back of the Dolman said:

So can I assume just the one meeting or more ?

could just be you let him at the wrong time, we all have bad days where people’s opinions might be different to how we actually are.

It was the one occasion in the summer. And yeah I get that, just didn’t really like what I was hearing.

Don’t think anything else needs to said.

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4 minutes ago, Back of the Dolman said:

Depending on who the manager is he might be okay with that 

Maybe, personally I hope he stays but it looks unlikely, apparently there's been a new deal on the table since last summer 

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2 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

In numerous interviews both Conway and Manning have said he's been asked to play a different way. 

So not coached out of him then?

Just expected to add more to his game?

40 minutes ago, Back of the Dolman said:

Depending on who the manager is he might be okay with that 

A new deal was offered when NP was in charge, perhaps he will sign now we have a different Manager?

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3 minutes ago, phantom said:

So not coached out of him then?

Just expected to add more to his game?

A new deal was offered when NP was in charge, perhaps he will sign now we have a different Manager?

Maybe the deal wasn’t to his liking, doesn’t mean he didn’t sign it because of NP.

Maybe he knew what was coming and didn’t want to commit.

there’s many reasons why he might or might not sign a contract, manager is just one of the factors 

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1 minute ago, Back of the Dolman said:

Some would say expected to add more to his game

others would say he’s had the stronger points of his game neutralised.

opinions eh 😂

Feeding and utilising TC would have been my main focus tbh

Instead we’ve nullified his threat and to such a degree that he’s not even a starter at present time

If we lose him I believe we’ve ******** up big time

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2 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:

Feeding and utilising TC would have been my main focus tbh

Instead we’ve nullified his threat and to such a degree that he’s not even a starter at present time

If we lose him I believe we’ve ******** up big time

For me we’re still playing too many square pegs in round holes and it goes back to something I’ve said many times.

If LM wanted to change the style of play then that’s fine, but if the squad he inherited isn’t up to that and can’t perform to the required level then you have to play to the teams strengths whilst trying to implement your new ideas gradually.

you then find out who’s up to it and who’s not and you can recruit accordingly.

Hopefully that would have meant that we’d have seen a smoother transition in style with better results.

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4 hours ago, Lew-T said:

Get the impression Conway is a bit of a dick in all honesty. I’m sure he will do well elsewhere, but for the relatively short time in our first team, he thinks he is way above our station.

He thinks your one.....

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As a Father of a 6 year old boy who's hero is Tommy Conway I'm going to be gutted when he leaves in the summer.

For those abusing him me and my Son were fortunate enough to meet him and I can honestly say I've never met and spoken to somebody so down to earth and normal. He made such an impact on my boy and whatever happens I'll always be grateful for that.

To me, he seems frustrated and there does seem to be an acceptance from him in terms of body language that he'll be off but I wouldn't say that's diminished his work rate at all.

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26 minutes ago, Back of the Dolman said:

Maybe the deal wasn’t to his liking, doesn’t mean he didn’t sign it because of NP.

Maybe he knew what was coming and didn’t want to commit.

Neither of us know if it was or wasn't to do with NP being in charge, but it's just as feasible as those that are trying to imply he won't sign because LM is here. 

So you are saying he may have known before anyone else that NP was to be sacked, LM would replace him and we'd go on a losing run?

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1 hour ago, Back of the Dolman said:

Yes I’d like him to stay, he’s an instinctive goalscorer and I think there’s plenty more goals in him.

 

Agreed, but like Scott and Semenyo, if another team higher up the chain comes calling offering to quadruple his money what can you do

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14 minutes ago, hinsleburg said:

As a Father of a 6 year old boy who's hero is Tommy Conway I'm going to be gutted when he leaves in the summer.

For those abusing him me and my Son were fortunate enough to meet him and I can honestly say I've never met and spoken to somebody so down to earth and normal. He made such an impact on my boy and whatever happens I'll always be grateful for that.

To me, he seems frustrated and there does seem to be an acceptance from him in terms of body language that he'll be off but I wouldn't say that's diminished his work rate at all.

To be fair many of us could copy and paste the above and insert another players name from the years of supporting our club

As you and so many are suddenly body language experts perhaps you could explain where this body language has been shown and how it proves it is all to do with his football? 

God forbid a young lad may be having personal problems completely unrelated to football if at all 

This is just the latest nonsense created to bash LM and all of sudden people take it as confirmed 

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1 minute ago, phantom said:

Neither of us know if it was or wasn't to do with NP being in charge, but it's just as feasible as those that are trying to imply he won't sign because LM is here. 

So you are saying he may have known before anyone else that NP was to be sacked, LM would replace him and we'd go on a losing run?

He’s had a contract on the table a good few months before NP left and he didn’t sign it, this paranoia that every little thing that goes wrong is down to Manning is crazy 

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5 hours ago, Monkeh said:

He doesn't suit the system, the problem isn't Tommy, the problem is what Tommy is being asked to do,

He's been asked to play as a loan striker with his back to goal, that doesn't suit his physical make up or his ability,

He's better off playing in a front too, and getting on the end of crosses from a wide man or strike partner

He thrived under Pearson style and is struggling under mannings style

If he expects to make it in the game he's going to have to learn to expand his game and add more strings to his bow 

There's no way anyone up the ladder is going to be building a team around him in the near future 

 

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8 minutes ago, phantom said:

Neither of us know if it was or wasn't to do with NP being in charge, but it's just as feasible as those that are trying to imply he won't sign because LM is here. 

So you are saying he may have known before anyone else that NP was to be sacked, LM would replace him and we'd go on a losing run?

No I didn’t say that, but I’m sure the players know a lot better than any of us what the politics within the club are like.

i made no suggestion that he knew LM would replace NP or how our form would be.

i said there are many factors that can influence a players decision to sign a new contract not just who the manager is 

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10 minutes ago, TV Tom said:

Agreed, but like Scott and Semenyo, if another team higher up the chain comes calling offering to quadruple his money what can you do

With his contract situation I’m sure we won’t be getting Semenyo or Scott type money and like any of us if somebody offered to quadruple our salary to do the same job I’m sure we’d all be off to a new employer 

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4 minutes ago, phantom said:

If he expects to make it in the game he's going to have to learn to expand his game and add more strings to his bow 

There's no way anyone up the ladder is going to be building a team around him in the near future 

 

Are you suggesting he does not want to expand his game and improve ? That is a strange . Why do you have that impression ? He seems a willing lad from all that he shows and says. 
There is also no way up the ladder anyone leaves a forward so isolated. 
It will be interesting to see how is career develops at his new club. 
 

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3 hours ago, Red-Robbo said:

I remember people saying the same about Brett Pitman. Like Tom, he just has one of those grim-looking faces on pitch. Didn't stop Pitman scoring some important goals from us and doing well elsewhere before the ill-advised move to the Fewers saw him never work in League football again! :laughcont: Scored seven in one game at Wessex League level mind you, in December. 

Aaaah...

... remember the time we had him and Wells clicking on the pitch?

The 'Sour Faced Assassins'.

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8 minutes ago, RollsRoyce said:

Are you suggesting he does not want to expand his game and improve ? That is a strange . Why do you have that impression ? He seems a willing lad from all that he shows and says. 
There is also no way up the ladder anyone leaves a forward so isolated. 
It will be interesting to see how is career develops at his new club. 
 

Perhaps you could highlight the part where I wrote that? 

It's other people that are implying he has "bad body language" due to having to change his game 

I'd be very concerned about any footballer at his age that didn't want to expand their game and add to their qualities 

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7 hours ago, Roadrunner said:

Did not look happy when he entered the pitch. Not a smile when he scored a brilliant goal, from a brilliant cross. I wonder why.

Perhaps here's the answer to something that you seem to have seen last night 

2 hours ago, Back of the Dolman said:

We all have bad days 

 

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Will know what his best mate is on. Will know that the grass really is greener where AG is concerned; we are a busted flush, going nowhere fast. Better off out of here, with the benefit of extra £££; it's a no-brainer. Anyone advising him to the contrary is a fool.

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21 minutes ago, phantom said:

To be fair many of us could copy and paste the above and insert another players name from the years of supporting our club

As you and so many are suddenly body language experts perhaps you could explain where this body language has been shown and how it proves it is all to do with his football? 

God forbid a young lad may be having personal problems completely unrelated to football if at all 

This is just the latest nonsense created to bash LM and all of sudden people take it as confirmed 

Wait, where on Earth have I mentioned Manning or implied it's anything to do with him!?

I think ever since the club (which I think was Pearson to shatter your illusion I'm beating Manning with a stick) went public with a contract offer Conway has seemed more frustrated in terms of body language and attitude on the pitch and to some extent in his press interviews. The interviews have been a lot more guarded rather than full of excitement and enthusiasm like they were last season, even to some extent after the West Ham game too. A lot less comments about the club and how happy he is to be here...

He's been clearly more frustrated with his team mates when he's not received passes after making runs or players make the wrong option! What else are we supposed to infer from that? 'Ah, Conway is annoyed that Williams has overhit another pass but maybe he's just frustrated with stuff away from football?'

As I said, I don't think that's diminished his work rate at all and given he's isolated with no support who can blame him for being more frustrated? As you've mentioned Manning, it's clear he's not found a way to use Conway effectively and that's a really big issue right now, one of several piling up. But it's also not related to the contents of my post.

Stop looking into agendas that aren't there and focus on the post, I wish I was subtle enough to infer and put things between the lines but I'm really not. 

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30 minutes ago, Back of the Dolman said:

No I didn’t say that, but I’m sure the players know a lot better than any of us what the politics within the club are like.

i made no suggestion that he knew LM would replace NP or how our form would be.

i said there are many factors that can influence a players decision to sign a new contract not just who the manager is 

The biggest factor in players leaving us is they know we’re going absolutely nowhere.

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3 minutes ago, hinsleburg said:

Wait, where on Earth have I mentioned Manning or implied it's anything to do with him!?

I think ever since the club (which I think was Pearson to shatter your illusion I'm beating Manning with a stick) went public with a contract offer Conway has seemed more frustrated in terms of body language and attitude on the pitch and to some extent in his press interviews. The interviews have been a lot more guarded rather than full of excitement and enthusiasm like they were last season, even to some extent after the West Ham game too. A lot less comments about the club and how happy he is to be here...

He's been clearly more frustrated with his team mates when he's not received passes after making runs or players make the wrong option! What else are we supposed to infer from that? 'Ah, Conway is annoyed that Williams has overhit another pass but maybe he's just frustrated with stuff away from football?'

As I said, I don't think that's diminished his work rate at all and given he's isolated with no support who can blame him for being more frustrated? As you've mentioned Manning, it's clear he's not found a way to use Conway effectively and that's a really big issue right now, one of several piling up. But it's also not related to the contents of my post.

Stop looking into agendas that aren't there and focus on the post, I wish I was subtle enough to infer and put things between the lines but I'm really not. 

Take a deep breath and read my reply again, I didn't say you had mentioned Manning 

As I said its very possible if there's anything impacting him it could be outside of football? 

Another thing, he's just been called up to Scotland U21s, maybe he's disappointed he thought he'd be in the full squad and he's already been told he's not going to be promoted? 

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