Swansea City at home match thread

[cotswoldred2]

23 minutes ago, Crackers Corner said:

Really were you there? It was turgid. We had 27% possession all game. If we pay hard earnt money to watch we should expect better then that. Happy with result but not the overall performance.

Don't know what you expected, Swansea play possession football they were always going to be hard to break down, I of course sympathise with shelling out and watching a dull game, but I always celebrate a win and not the performance. Any win instills a better feeling and hopefully performance for the next match. Of course it would be great if we played like Brazil, but that might be a few games off just yet.

[Numero Uno]

1 minute ago, cotswoldred2 said:

Don't know what you expected, Swansea play possession football they were always going to be hard to break down, I of course sympathise with shelling out and watching a dull game, but I always celebrate a win and not the performance. Any win instills a better feeling and hopefully performance for the next match. Of course it would be great if we played like Brazil, but that might be a few games off just yet.

I expected us to have a shot first half

[cotswoldred2]

49 minutes ago, cotswoldred2 said:

yesssssssssssssssssssssss ******* get innnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

MOANERS OUT!

Some of you should question your suitability in calling yourselves City supporters. 

Cynical doesn't even come close...miserable lot.

[One Team]

36 minutes ago, RedM said:

No. He walked around but I guess he rightly gauged the mood and didn't risk it. Right call to be fair

I actually saw him do a vague attempt at it as he walked away from the singing section, two limp fist pumps rather than the usual. All a bit pathetic really. 

[Sheltons Army]

Hadwin claiming that he’s seen evidence that we are getting better as a side and talking about player overhaul in the summer 

What a load of b******

[One Team]

6 minutes ago, Lakeside Red said:

Total dross today but a welcome 3points . Manning out for me 

Unfortunately he’s staying. That result will just vindicate their decision to stick with him. 

1 minute ago, Sheltons Army said:

Hadwin claiming that he’s seen evidence that we are getting better as a side and talking about player overhaul in the summer 

What a load of b******

Also said that were are better defensively under Manning! 

[cotswoldred2]

1 minute ago, Numero Uno said:

I expected us to have a shot first half

Why concentrate on the negative, we were tight and how many shots did they have ?

Exactly....

If you crave entertainment go to the cinema...football is not a guaranteed outcome.

[Barrs Court Red]

Just now, cotswoldred2 said:

Some of you should question your suitability in calling yourselves City supporters. 

 

That genuinely sounds like the sort of thing an 8 year old would come out with. 

[Roger Red Hat]

Two very poor sides. Players looked totally bored with it as well as the crowd.

[GrahamC]

4 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:

Hadwin claiming that he’s seen evidence that we are getting better as a side and talking about player overhaul in the summer 

What a load of b******

First bit is horseshit.

Let’s see how we get on in replacing Weimann (another assist for a team in the playoff positions today), James & King shall we?

Our January business consisted of bringing 2 players in who were on the bench today, one clearly wasn’t fit enough to play, the other is so poor that an under pressure coach can’t risk doing so.

Edited March 10 by GrahamC

[Numero Uno]

1 minute ago, cotswoldred2 said:

Why concentrate on the negative, we were tight and how many shots did they have ?

Exactly....

If you crave entertainment go to the cinema...football is not a guaranteed outcome.

Did you attend today?

[RedRock]

Quite a bit of endeavour, very little quality. 

Hats off to Dickie. The only real positive aside from the 3 points.
 

Oh, and Anis is getting a bit better.

.

[Sheltons Army]

Ed Hadwin is a complete plumb

 

fml

[glynriley]

1 minute ago, Roger Red Hat said:

Two very poor sides. Players looked totally bored with it as well as the crowd.

You say crowd. Was more like a gathering. 

[HoldenBall]

As others have eluded to, felt like a club on its arse today. Any sort of positivity or progression has been sucked out the club and today sort of felt like the beginning of the end even though we won. 

[Numero Uno]

3 minutes ago, cotswoldred2 said:

Why concentrate on the negative, we were tight and how many shots did they have ?

Exactly....

If you crave entertainment go to the cinema...football is not a guaranteed outcome.

Many did decide to do something else more enjoyable today. Thousands in fact. The Gate was half empty.

[Spike]

2 minutes ago, cotswoldred2 said:

Why concentrate on the negative, we were tight and how many shots did they have ?

Exactly....

If you crave entertainment go to the cinema...football is not a guaranteed outcome.

The performance was poor, in this game we got a chance and took it but we didn't perform any better and it's not the entertainment that we're concerned about, it's the ability to win games. We lost 4 consecutive games and then scraped a 1-0 win with a very poor performance, is that what you want from your football club? 

[Sheltons Army]

Now we have a bloke ‘Ray from Kingswood ‘  on RB who doesn’t go very often but normally listens on radio , who  says fans should be more positive and give LM time as he needs new signings 

 

Its been like some alternative comedy spoof post match

[steviestevieneville]

32 minutes ago, BigTone said:

The one upside to all this is that we didn't sign that Brazilian wizard Ronald before Swansea.  He can't take a short corner of even a throw in. How did he ever become a professional footballer ?

I don’t think I’ve seen a worse player at championship level . Although we’ve had a few 

[cotswoldred2]

58 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said:

Still relying on others being shitter than us. Right team to play at just the right time. 

Don't agree they were exactly what we find a problem with.

[steviestevieneville]

6 minutes ago, cotswoldred2 said:

Why concentrate on the negative, we were tight and how many shots did they have ?

Exactly....

If you crave entertainment go to the cinema...football is not a guaranteed outcome.

**** me . Are you blind ? That was abysmal as has most of the football under manning . We will get relegated with him in charge next season . 

[Lack of Action Man]

3 points - good. Important that we didn’t go on an LJ style losing run. 

[REDOXO]

3 minutes ago, cotswoldred2 said:

Don't agree they were exactly what we find a problem with.

I’m not sure what you mean there?

What problem/s are you talking about specifically? 

[kit]

First half was awful today. I can only assume that manning instructed everyone to stand off swansea all first half, even before the changes in the 2nd half we'd got slightly better by actually pressing and chasing in midfield rather than just the front 2 doing it. Roberts and sykes then added the quality that we'd been lacking.

We still got cut open and swansea should have punished us before we actually created any openings in the 2nd half.

At the moment that result is papering over the cracks. Its just so boring most of the time, that result has just slowed the decline rather being a turning point.

In reality it was two poor sides playing it out today. We managed to edge it.

[The Original OTIB]

7 minutes ago, cotswoldred2 said:

Don't agree they were exactly what we find a problem with.

? 

[Fuber]

16 minutes ago, cotswoldred2 said:

Why concentrate on the negative, we were tight and how many shots did they have ?

Exactly....

If you crave entertainment go to the cinema...football is not a guaranteed outcome.

Are you braindead?

[REDOXO]

1 minute ago, The Original OTIB said:

? 

Yes I actually asked the question.

How were Swansea today the sort of team we normally have problems with?

[Lennieb]

It's one we had to grind out tbh so result over performance . There's a player in anais for me and I'll stick with him as squad wise there isn't anything else quite like him and I could see at end he'd put an awful lot into it. A couple of 1 nil wins wouldn't  do us any harm at the moment.

[Gimme Shelton]

15 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

I don’t think I’ve seen a worse player at championship level . Although we’ve had a few 

The Cardiff left back last week would give him a 'run' for his money. 

[Offside]

Delighted with the three points. But what a dire game. First half was abysmal. Second half was better once Sykes and Robert’s came on.

We seemed to have the tactic of sitting off Swansea to deny them space in the middle and pick up loose passes from them. That got more successful as the game wore on, but it was like watching paint dry at times, with zero intensity from us for long periods.

Overall the performance felt very flat and the AG crowd was more disgruntled than I’ve seen for a long time.

 

 

[hertsexile]

Today was an awful game a total lack of ideas going forward. 
However it is not helped when over the last two games we seem to have become a dirty side referees have given 29 free kicks for fouls against us compared to 10 for us ! I find this unbelievable to be honest. 
A vital win today not sure how much longer Manning has got but on today’s performance not long 

[BCFCGav]

Thought we finished the game really well. Started making lots of chances and giving very little away. Think we were the better team and did alright today. 3 points, onwards ️

[Buster]

Much needed 3pts. But the football was awful in the first half second abit better. Manning Out

[WessexPest]

Most importantly, a much-needed three points. Hopefully that dispels any realistic relegation concerns, and while some may scoff at the suggestion we were ever in serious danger of going down, nine wins in 29 outings and some thoroughly wretched performances said otherwise.

Other than the victory and completing the double over one horrible lot from the wrong side of the Bridge, nothing to write home about.

Cant blame the fans for voting with their feet today, a lot of disillusionment around the club because of the decisions taken that were supposed to boost our fortunes and clearly haven’t achieved that.

Much work to be done this summer if anything is going to improve any time soon.

[Gimme Shelton]

For all that we were mostly poor today,how about Swansea? Go 1-0 down and then play exactly the same for the last 20 minutes. Definitely no plan B from them.

[GBF]

7 minutes ago, cotswoldred2 said:

Some of you should question your suitability in calling yourselves City supporters. 

Cynical doesn't even come close...miserable lot.

With the greatest respect you are entitled to your opinion but as a City fan of  50 years I’ve felt disillusioned a few times but only depressed twice supporting City and it was under Holden and under Manning. IMO  I think you view Is out of touch with how the majority feel and I am genuinely considering whether I will renew my season ticket if SL doesn’t appoint someone who is competent and qualified to run the football club 

[Sleepy1968]

3 minutes ago, Gimme Shelton said:

For all that we were mostly poor today,how about Swansea? Go 1-0 down and then play exactly the same for the last 20 minutes. Definitely no plan B from them.

I thought that too. A bit like how we play sometimes. I can't believe they score many goals either.

[Atlanta_Red]

5 minutes ago, GBF said:

With the greatest respect you are entitled to your opinion but as a City fan of  50 years I’ve felt disillusioned a few times but only depressed twice supporting City and it was under Holden and under Manning. IMO  I think you view Is out of touch with how the majority feel and I am genuinely considering whether I will renew my season ticket if SL doesn’t appoint someone who is competent and qualified to run the football club 

It was really depressing for me under Pulis. 

[RedRock]

7 minutes ago, GBF said:

With the greatest respect you are entitled to your opinion but as a City fan of  50 years I’ve felt disillusioned a few times but only depressed twice supporting City and it was under Holden and under Manning. IMO  I think you view Is out of touch with how the majority feel and I am genuinely considering whether I will renew my season ticket if SL doesn’t appoint someone who is competent and qualified to run the football club 

Lummydaze. Did you miss the Pulis era? Can remember a 0-0 sat in the Dolman against Cardiff, hoping Cardiff would score. That’s how bad it got.

Some pretty wretched times pre Pearson too, when pass accuracy must have been around 5%. At least we can normally pass to our own player, all be it at present only with a backwards or sideways ball. 

[WessexPest]

5 minutes ago, Atlanta_Red said:

It was really depressing for me under Pulis. 

Exactly, it’s been way worse.

Benny Hill, SOD, Jordan’s second stint, and that’s without mentioning the early 80s!

Bit worrying our reliance on Dickie goals to win 1-0. Think we’d be in the bottom three without those.

[Swede]

A win is a win, to stop the rot.

Front foot football? Nope.

Something positive in that I did see some influence and in game management from Manning in getting us to be a bit more aggressive in the 2nd half.

Lack of any penetration and creativity in the forward areas is a continual theme though.

However swansea's continual posession bore fest really doesn't fill me with any enthusiasm for what is instore for us if Manning gets his way.

Sykes and Roberts made a difference when they came on. Mehmeti continues to frustrate though. Ball watching and a liability first half & not releasing early enough, to having a big influence 2nd half. There is a player in there.

[hollydog]

Never underestimate the psychological boost of a win but that was a hard watch. i thought we were promised front foot attacking football but instead i see us slowing the game down at every opportunity. Max took an age over his goal kicks and when Pring was subbed he took an age to walk off (didn’t exit the pitch at the closest point) Talk about letting the opposition know you have zero confidence. We’re the bloody home team fgs!

[Jimbo76]

58 minutes ago, cotswoldred2 said:

Some of you should question your suitability in calling yourselves City supporters. 

Cynical doesn't even come close...miserable lot.

Completely agree. I'm embarrassed by some of the comments on here. 

We've had a bad run. Lots of teams do. Has Manning taken us backwards? Yes.

But none of us know if it's short term or long term.

I for one am going to carry on being positive and supporting the team in the hope that, over time, Manning comes good. Might not, but I can't do all this negative sh*t all the time.

One thing that won't help the players, is this level of negativity and booing. No wonder Williams reacted today. From what I saw, there was no lack of effort.

I really don't care that Manning isn't telling jokes in the press conferences.

I don't know if he'll turn it around but I would love to see how some of the posters on here would struggle to accept it.

[Graham76]

4 minutes ago, Swede said:

 

However swansea's continual posession bore fest really doesn't fill me with any enthusiasm for what is instore for us if Manning gets his way

I totally agree. Swansea and Manning are made for each other.  No way I’m renewing my season ticket next year if that’s the way we will be playing 

[pillred]

2 hours ago, Andy082005 said:

Get in! The quicker we get the 3 wins we need to guarantee safety the better 

 

Seriously 3 wins!! I would suspect if we lost every game now we might still stay up, you have a lot more faith in the bottom three than even their own supporters have.

[Offside]

31 minutes ago, Gimme Shelton said:

For all that we were mostly poor today,how about Swansea? Go 1-0 down and then play exactly the same for the last 20 minutes. Definitely no plan B from them.

I agree. They seemed to lose interest as the game wore on. 

[Simple Red]

1 hour ago, BigTone said:

The one upside to all this is that we didn't sign that Brazilian wizard Ronald before Swansea.  He can't take a short corner of even a throw in. How did he ever become a professional footballer ?

Hey! Lads! We’ve signed Ronald….oh!

[Out of his pie crust]

6 hours ago, Sir Geoff said:

 

That was the actual attendance v Cardiff. Laugh

Reckon no more than 16000 will be in attendance today.

Reckon I owe you a fiver, I counted 16077

[mozo]

25 minutes ago, Jimbo76 said:

Completely agree. I'm embarrassed by some of the comments on here. 

We've had a bad run. Lots of teams do. Has Manning taken us backwards? Yes.

But none of us know if it's short term or long term.

I for one am going to carry on being positive and supporting the team in the hope that, over time, Manning comes good. Might not, but I can't do all this negative sh*t all the time.

One thing that won't help the players, is this level of negativity and booing. No wonder Williams reacted today. From what I saw, there was no lack of effort.

I really don't care that Manning isn't telling jokes in the press conferences.

I don't know if he'll turn it around but I would love to see how some of the posters on here would struggle to accept it.

Great post  

[MelksRed]

2 hours ago, Brann-red said:

Didn’t hang around for the post match pitch walk .. did Liam do his fist pump to the crowd or had everyone gone also ?

Nope

[Davefevs]

4 hours ago, Major Isewater said:

Liam Manning’s Absent Absinthe Army.

Now that would be something to watch!

[CityCiderEd]

Awful game but really should have been a 3-0 win. McCrorie passes to Conway for a tap in and Knight's header when it looked easier to score. Their keeper had probably more touches than any outfield player. 

[sh1t_ref_again]

1 hour ago, hertsexile said:

Today was an awful game a total lack of ideas going forward. 
However it is not helped when over the last two games we seem to have become a dirty side referees have given 29 free kicks for fouls against us compared to 10 for us ! I find this unbelievable to be honest. 
A vital win today not sure how much longer Manning has got but on today’s performance not long 

Think the ref was making up the rules as he went along, joke most of the free kicks he was giving. Not sure who's performance was worse ours or the refs (ref shaded it as he was sh1t all game, but we improved)

[Superjack]

1 hour ago, Atlanta_Red said:

It was really depressing for me under Pulis. 

 

1 hour ago, RedRock said:

Lummydaze. Did you miss the Pulis era? Can remember a 0-0 sat in the Dolman against Cardiff, hoping Cardiff would score. That’s how bad it got.

Some pretty wretched times pre Pearson too, when pass accuracy must have been around 5%. At least we can normally pass to our own player, all be it at present only with a backwards or sideways ball. 

Yet another reason to hate Pulis. Because he is always held up as some sort of benchmark. "Nothing can be that bad, because Pulis was worse".

I sat through the Pulis era, and it doesn't seem to me that this bloke is much better. 

Say what you like about Pulis, the football may have been as boring as what we have now, but the bloke certainly wasn't.

Edited March 10 by Superjack

[Sheltons Army]

2 minutes ago, Superjack said:

 

Yet another reason to hate Pulis. Because he is always held up as some sort of benchmark. "Nothing can be that bad, because Pulis was worse".

I sat through the Pulis era, and it doesn't seem to me that this bloke is much better. 

Say what you like about Pulis, the football may have been as boring as what we have now, but the bloke certainly wasn't.

That’s what the defence has descended too

 

’Well.....what about under Pulis’

’

 

[1960maaan]

I said , 20 minutes in , I would not want to watch that week in week out. 
Tedious pass , pass , pass without any attacking intent . My God that is dull .
We were not great, they dominated long periods , but **** me watching them pass for fun without actually getting into the area was so painful . 

They were so much better than us for 45 , but my God it was tedious . I thought we were much better 2nd half, low bar admittedly , but we actually looked like we wanted it.
I guess you have to give LM credit, I'm still not convinced but it's the first time we have looked better in the 2nd half of a game.  He also subbed Cornick early, well before his 60 minute trigger.  I thought Sykes made a big difference. On chances we should have cruised it , Knights header was a great chance , but there were also 2/3 others. 
Still not convinced with Manning , we conceded so much possession and in the first half never got near them . Love to know if he thought his plan was perfect this time .

TBH that was a hard watch. specially first half. I am looking forward to his presser, I wonder who gets credit.

[Davefevs]

6 hours ago, mozo said:

That was utterly drab and so passive.

I'd like to see us press higher up the pitch and just go man for man. We've already seen how Swansea can be pressured into making mistakes.

We need Sykes for Cornick, who on the ball has been awful. We probably need Wells on alongside Conway. 

How terrible is O'Leary's kicking?!!!

Only Reading MDT (Match Day / Mother’s Day thread) back now at 19:30

Was so evident wasn’t it?  It wasn’t as if we were even lulling them into one of our triggered presses and getting picked off.  We know Grimes will get on the ball, but we did nothing to stop him.  As the half wore on you sensed they might open us up, but luckily Ronald had his Ronald McDonald boots on (that corner ).

Was just a pure block, no press.  Conway and Knight are so wasted doing that.  

[Davefevs]

5 hours ago, The Original OTIB said:

Nutters on pitch

One of the kids was still being held by the stewards / security as we exited the SS.  They were obviously waiting to “repatriate” them with a parent.  Youngster tried to make another run for it, but got caught again.

Whats the score….banning order?  And for parent?

[Davefevs]

5 hours ago, Tim Monaghan said:

Good 2nd half. 3pts. COYRs.

Much better last 20-25 mins.  Glad for the 3 points.  Phew.  Right, let’s try to play more bravely between now and season end.  COYR 

[Davefevs]

4 hours ago, Sean Emmett said:

As the players tried to take the field, the sprinkler refused to yield

 

Sprayed it around nicely, but not very mobile.  Reminded me if Tony Fitzpatrick!

4 hours ago, cotswoldred2 said:

Don't agree they were exactly what we find a problem with.

No, sorry, you’re confusing a team that passes it with a team that sits in a low-block.  If you allow a team to sit in a low-block then of course they’re hard to break down.  So guess what, you try to do things quickly or pass between the lines to stop them setting their defence.  We showed in the last 20 mins or so, how you disrupt a team like this both when they had the ball and when we did.  My question is why waste 60-70 mins until you do so.

[SomeRandomBristolian]

I am delighted with the three pionts, even if the game itself was one to forget.

I'm sure their keeper had most touches out of their team. Seemed to constently have the ball 1st half. It wasn't great today but a win is a win. Clean sheet too. Onto the next one. 

[Davefevs]

3 hours ago, Gimme Shelton said:

For all that we were mostly poor today,how about Swansea? Go 1-0 down and then play exactly the same for the last 20 minutes. Definitely no plan B from them.

Martin > Manning

Williams was Martin’s assistant at MKD and Swansea.

Theres a theme!

3 hours ago, hollydog said:

Never underestimate the psychological boost of a win but that was a hard watch. i thought we were promised front foot attacking football but instead i see us slowing the game down at every opportunity. Max took an age over his goal kicks and when Pring was subbed he took an age to walk off (didn’t exit the pitch at the closest point) Talk about letting the opposition know you have zero confidence. We’re the bloody home team fgs!

Agree, and although I’m in critical mode at the mo’ I do pay some thoughts to fragile confidence from 4 defeats…and the reverse from a win.  Please, I hope today’s result aids the future.

2 hours ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

Think the ref was making up the rules as he went along, joke most of the free kicks he was giving. Not sure who's performance was worse ours or the refs (ref shaded it as he was sh1t all game, but we improved)

Can’t believe I got to pg28 before I read this.  Donohue was effing terrible.  Thought I was gonna get told off by the steward in my section for a bit of coarse language at times.

@GrahamC I’m disappointed you’ve downed tools on this.  No contract for you in the summer.

[mozo]

26 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Only Reading MDT (Match Day / Mother’s Day thread) back now at 19:30

Was so evident wasn’t it?  It wasn’t as if we were even lulling them into one of our triggered presses and getting picked off.  We know Grimes will get on the ball, but we did nothing to stop him.  As the half wore on you sensed they might open us up, but luckily Ronald had his Ronald McDonald boots on (that corner ).

Was just a pure block, no press.  Conway and Knight are so wasted doing that.  

Yeah and that's a Manning tactical decision that I really didn't like. 

They've obviously done their analysis, and I presume (your thoughts?) have come to the conclusion that if you block Swansea's centre backs and let them keep the ball just inside their own half, that they will struggle to find a way out and give us a chance of a turnover. What actually happened is that they got the ball out wide, often with a midfield option inside.

But there were 2/3 occasions when we eventually stalked them back towards their goal and they panicked. So maybe a full on stalky press would have been much better all along. It definitely would have engaged the crowd a bit. 

So Manning missed a trick there big time imo. 

[GrahamC]

7 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Martin > Manning

Williams was Martin’s assistant at MKD and Swansea.

Theres a theme!

Agree, and although I’m in critical mode at the mo’ I do pay some thoughts to fragile confidence from 4 defeats…and the reverse from a win.  Please, I hope today’s result aids the future.

Can’t believe I got to pg28 before I read this.  Donohue was effing terrible.  Thought I was gonna get told off by the steward in my section for a bit of coarse language at times.

@GrahamC I’m disappointed you’ve downed tools on this.  No contract for you in the summer.

How we missed Keith Stroud!

[premisesmanager]

6 hours ago, Jimbo76 said:

Completely agree. I'm embarrassed by some of the comments on here. 

We've had a bad run. Lots of teams do. Has Manning taken us backwards? Yes.

But none of us know if it's short term or long term.

I for one am going to carry on being positive and supporting the team in the hope that, over time, Manning comes good. Might not, but I can't do all this negative sh*t all the time.

One thing that won't help the players, is this level of negativity and booing. No wonder Williams reacted today. From what I saw, there was no lack of effort.

I really don't care that Manning isn't telling jokes in the press conferences.

I don't know if he'll turn it around but I would love to see how some of the posters on here would struggle to accept it.

We all have an opinion and quite frankly the football is boring and negative hence no why you feel embarrassed by the comments is your problem.

[eardun]

I must admit I did enjoy this today:

https://www.skysports.com/football/video/19508/13091751/no-really-this-is-the-worst-corner-ever-taken

[sh1t_ref_again]

Awful 1st half, but the subs of Sykes and Roberts changed the game and got us a much needed 3 points, hopefully will take some of the pressure off the players and start playing with a bit of freedom again as some had started to look like they were hiding on the pitch.

[pillred]

8 hours ago, Numero Uno said:

Many did decide to do something else more enjoyable today. Thousands in fact. The Gate was half empty.

Or half full if you're cotswoldred2.

[fgrsimon]

2 hours ago, eardun said:

I must admit I did enjoy this today:

https://www.skysports.com/football/video/19508/13091751/no-really-this-is-the-worst-corner-ever-taken

It was comical but to be fair to him, he clearly slipped as he was taking it.

[W-S-M Seagull]

11 hours ago, Superjack said:

 

Yet another reason to hate Pulis. Because he is always held up as some sort of benchmark. "Nothing can be that bad, because Pulis was worse".

I sat through the Pulis era, and it doesn't seem to me that this bloke is much better. 

Say what you like about Pulis, the football may have been as boring as what we have now, but the bloke certainly wasn't.

The Pulis era was terrible. 

Yesterday had very similar vibes to it. 

I think what is worse now is that we don't have players like Carl Hutchings. We have decent players that are capable of playing much better but the guy in charge now just can't unlock that.