Swansea City at home match thread

[1960maaan]

2 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

The Pulis era was terrible. 

Yesterday had very similar vibes to it. 

I think what is worse now is that we don't have players like Carl Hutchings. We have decent players that are capable of playing much better but the guy in charge now just can't unlock that.

That first half was an absolute shambles of turgid non football , we seemed to have set up to make it that way. Possibly the worst half of football in living memory , or QPR if you went up there this year.

 

[City oz]

8 hours ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

Awful 1st half, but the subs of Sykes and Roberts changed the game and got us a much needed 3 points, hopefully will take some of the pressure off the players and start playing with a bit of freedom again as some had started to look like they were hiding on the pitch.

How can the players start playing with a bit of freedom. Liam has them confused.

 

[cotswoldred2]

21 hours ago, Numero Uno said:

Did you attend today?

No, I went to the pictures...not really fam around for Mothers Day. Plus Spurs beating Villa and a great match Man City and Liverpool, and with City winning a great day...until you read OTIB and you realise nothing has really changed still dripping misery on here.

[The Original OTIB]

14 minutes ago, cotswoldred2 said:

No, I went to the pictures...not really fam around for Mothers Day. Plus Spurs beating Villa and a great match Man City and Liverpool, and with City winning a great day...until you read OTIB and you realise nothing has really changed still dripping misery on here.

[The Original OTIB]

17 hours ago, Davefevs said:

One of the kids was still being held by the stewards / security as we exited the SS.  They were obviously waiting to “repatriate” them with a parent.  Youngster tried to make another run for it, but got caught again.

Whats the score….banning order?  And for parent?

Force them to watch Manning on the grass for 10 weeks and listen to his PowerPoint presentations.

[1960maaan]

17 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Theres a theme!

Indeed 

 

[redsquirrel]

 what  done my head in after the game was both managers said we did well first half. id hate to think how bad its got to get before they think its crap

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, cotswoldred2 said:

still dripping misery on here

Or just genuine concern from fans?

[Davefevs]

37 minutes ago, redsquirrel said:

 what  done my head in after the game was both managers said we did well first half. id hate to think how bad its got to get before they think its crap

One manager coming into an away match, a “derby”, expecting a barrage of pressure….and finding his side knocking it about calmly, playing so well, we couldn’t even get close (we didn’t try), might have that view that it was a successful half, I guess?  Why they didn’t go for our jugular I really don’t know.

[Son of Fred]

7 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

 Why they didn’t go for our jugular I really don’t know.

Because it's messy???

[cotswoldred2]

4 hours ago, City oz said:

How can the players start playing with a bit of freedom. Liam has them confused.

 

Blimey this OTIB epidemic has reached Aus...honestly what the hell do we know just what the players are thinking?

 

13 hours ago, pillred said:

Or half full if you're cotswoldred2.

Well yes indeed, glass half full always, without belief what is the point in doing anything in life? From a belief comes attainment and success ...look at Pep's and Klopp' take on it...but the Bristol way is I am afraid is very defeatist ...why that is I don't know, I was born in Bristol and left the area to join the RAF at 18, perhaps that 'saved' me. 

Perhaps we can now kick on and win a few, (more), 9 games = 27 points on offer we could just about get 6th even allowing for a defeat and a draw.

 

[A Horse With No Name]

5 minutes ago, cotswoldred2 said:

Blimey this OTIB epidemic has reached Aus...honestly what the hell do we know just what the players are thinking?

 

 

 

Crikey, if they're not confused then that just leaves they're crap. 

Edited March 11 by A Horse With No Name

[cotswoldred2]

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

Or just genuine concern from fans?

Yep I get it really, but it's still too early yet to pull the trigger imo. Let's hope for a few good performances in the run in, but overall I had greater expectations with Manning given his last appointment, but I will say we haven't suffered heavy defeats and been in all the games thus far, I really don't think we are a million miles away from where we want to be. 

These runs do happen, look at Blackburn at the moment, what is it 6 defeats on the bounce?

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

 

[cotswoldred2]

On 10/03/2024 at 15:26, steviestevieneville said:

**** me . Are you blind ? That was abysmal as has most of the football under manning . We will get relegated with him in charge next season . 

I give you West Ham 'Boro, Saints  Forest off the top ... and although there have been some poor games to take this stance is well just underlines what I am saying about Doom mongering on here, he inherited a paper thin squad with the best talent flogged off and not replaced, and yet we won't get relegated this season or next. 

IF he get the sack just who the Hell do we turn to anyway? Because for the life of me I can't think of anyone and no can anyone on here too...unless you can.

 

[Davefevs]

2 minutes ago, cotswoldred2 said:

Yep I get it really, but it's still too early yet to pull the trigger imo. Let's hope for a few good performances in the run in, but overall I had greater expectations with Manning given his last appointment, but I will say we haven't suffered heavy defeats and been in all the games thus far, I really don't think we are a million miles away from where we want to be. 

These runs do happen, look at Blackburn at the moment, what is it 6 defeats on the bounce?

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

 

Interesting choice in mentioning Blackburn - sold their talented young CM - Adam Wharton on Feb 1st.

Why the relevance of Wharton?  Because I saw him as being the most-Alex Scott type young player in the championship.

and they didn’t replace him, even let Travis go out on loan too.

You might argue they sabotaged their season!  JDT sacked 8 days later.  Although I quite like Eustace.

[NOTBLUE]

Manning more or less said in his post match interview that the plan(?) was not to lose the game.That first half of non football bore this out.Then with about 20 minutes left,we seemed to realise that Swansea weren’t really up to much,and when we  started getting the ball forward a lot quicker,we created about 3 or 4 good chances,the atmosphere noticeably picked up(no coincidence there),as they say ‘it ain’t rocket science.

[Davefevs]

5 minutes ago, cotswoldred2 said:

I give you West Ham 'Boro, Saints  Forest off the top ... and although there have been some poor games to take this stance is well just underlines what I am saying about Doom mongering on here, he inherited a paper thin squad with the best talent flogged off and not replaced, and yet we won't get relegated this season or next. 

IF he get the sack just who the Hell do we turn to anyway? Because for the life of me I can't think of anyone and no can anyone on here too...unless you can.

 

I’ve suggested Michael Duff.  I’m sure there are other candidates out there too.  I don’t really track managers.

[Numero Uno]

1 minute ago, NOTBLUE said:

That first half of non football bore this out.

Not sure if you meant that. It certainly bore me out!!

[NOTBLUE]

Just now, Numero Uno said:

Not sure if you meant that. It certainly bore me out!!

No it wasn’t intentional,but it certainly works.

[REDOXO]

8 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Interesting choice in mentioning Blackburn - sold their talented young CM - Adam Wharton on Feb 1st.

Why the relevance of Wharton?  Because I saw him as being the most-Alex Scott type young player in the championship.

and they didn’t replace him, even let Travis go out on loan too.

You might argue they sabotaged their season!  JDT sacked 8 days later.  Although I quite like Eustace.

Is that why TRAVIS is on here. OTIB has a shit loan policy! 

[The Original OTIB]

15 minutes ago, cotswoldred2 said:

I give you West Ham 'Boro, Saints  Forest off the top ... and although there have been some poor games to take this stance is well just underlines what I am saying about Doom mongering on here, he inherited a paper thin squad with the best talent flogged off and not replaced, and yet we won't get relegated this season or next. 

IF he get the sack just who the Hell do we turn to anyway? Because for the life of me I can't think of anyone and no can anyone on here too...unless you can.

 

Re: above, he was very happy with what he had when he walked in the door: Manning said: "The big bit is the playing group that is currently here." - "The big attraction is the current group that are in place".

[REDOXO]

Brilliant Top ten underperforming squad to inherited a paper thin squad!

The way some reinvent the past four months is astonishing! 
 

 

[Numero Uno]

24 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

Brilliant Top ten underperforming squad to inherited a paper thin squad!

The way some reinvent the past four months is astonishing! 
 

 

Wait until Sid appears on the radio tonight.....you will hear some prime revisionism then. It's not even four months either - no mention of paper thin squad when we were 15 points clear of relegation places a few weeks back. Now he's performed miracles to have us 9 clear with 9 to go.

[REDOXO]

5 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

Wait until Sid appears on the radio tonight.....you will hear some prime revisionism then. It's not even four months either - no mention of paper thin squad when we were 15 points clear of relegation places a few weeks back. Now he's performed miracles to have us 9 clear with 9 to go.

I’ll be listening!

[steviestevieneville]

1 hour ago, cotswoldred2 said:

I give you West Ham 'Boro, Saints  Forest off the top ... and although there have been some poor games to take this stance is well just underlines what I am saying about Doom mongering on here, he inherited a paper thin squad with the best talent flogged off and not replaced, and yet we won't get relegated this season or next. 

IF he get the sack just who the Hell do we turn to anyway? Because for the life of me I can't think of anyone and no can anyone on here too...unless you can.

 

It’s not doom mongering at all , it’s a honest assessment . The games you mention . Prem teams give you more time on the ball than the chaos of the champ plus teams raise their games in the cup . We generally were counter attacking in most of those games. That’s how this squad has been built by Pearson , so it suits us. I’m not having squad excuses because we’ve been told by tinnion that this squad should be challenging top end but you yourself have mentioned us not getting relegated. That’s the opposite of what manning signed up for. Are you willing to wager we won’t go down next season ? As I see it , with him in charge with tinnion overseaing things we’re in trouble next season 

[Mr Popodopolous]

1 hour ago, cotswoldred2 said:

I give you West Ham 'Boro, Saints  Forest off the top ... and although there have been some poor games to take this stance is well just underlines what I am saying about Doom mongering on here, he inherited a paper thin squad with the best talent flogged off and not replaced, and yet we won't get relegated this season or next. 

IF he get the sack just who the Hell do we turn to anyway? Because for the life of me I can't think of anyone and no can anyone on here too...unless you can.

 

The final half hour at Middlesbrough was appalling. Wow we made them look like Man City or at least not that level but a technically superb, dominant side but not.Man City..you could argue it started post half time but this stat tells a story.

Absorb pressure sure, absorb and counter better, use the ball better when you have it yes but come on..

That is the last half hour plus stoppage there. 

Edited March 11 by Mr Popodopolous

[Mr Popodopolous]

2 minutes ago, WeAreThePigs said:

There isn’t a vacancy.

Not yet..

If season ticket sales take a dent perhaps that will change..time will tell.

[cotswoldred2]

4 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

The final half hour at Middlesbrough was appalling. Wow we made them look like Man City or at least not that level but a technically superb, dominant side but not.Man City..you could argue it started post half time but this stat tells a story.

Absorb pressure sure, absorb and counter better, use the ball better when you have it yes but come on..

That is the last half hour plus stoppage there. 

 

4 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

The final half hour at Middlesbrough was appalling. Wow we made them look like Man City or at least not that level but a technically superb, dominant side but not.Man City..you could argue it started post half time but this stat tells a story.

Absorb pressure sure, absorb and counter better, use the ball better when you have it yes but come on..

That is the last half hour plus stoppage there. 

The final half hour at Boro was awful...sorry but you are pretty much entrenched as many others on here are that Manning can do no good even when winning...there will i hope be a lot of back peddling before the end of the season. It used to be not Mannings fault  but Steve or Jon, Tinman et all for hiring him, so effing fickle. So if not Manning who? Forget Nigel, Neil  not gonna happen, we have a promising coach we need to show some bottle and give him time. 

[Mr Popodopolous]

5 minutes ago, cotswoldred2 said:

 

The final half hour at Boro was awful...sorry but you are pretty much entrenched as many others on here are that Manning can do no good even when winning...there will i hope be a lot of back peddling before the end of the season. It used to be not Mannings fault  but Steve or Jon, Tinman et all for hiring him, so effing fickle. So if not Manning who? Forget Nigel, Neil  not gonna happen, we have a promising coach we need to show some bottle and give him time. 

I want us to win, if Manning wins games and starts to develop the style I'll be very happy...am far from alone I'm sure but the reason I and doubtless many others are so frustrated is we can see that the hierarchy are mismanaging the club that we all care deeply about. Well that's my take anyway.

The structure is horrible tbh..Marshall, Rawcliffe, Jon Lansdown and Tinnion wow. Throw in an inexperienced manager and it's very difficult.

They sacked a perfectly decent manager but that aside the whole structure needs sorting first.

Edited March 11 by Mr Popodopolous

[Superjack]

5 hours ago, WeAreThePigs said:

There isn’t a vacancy.

There ****ing should be vacancies from the top down.

[Sheltons Army]

6 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Interesting choice in mentioning Blackburn - sold their talented young CM - Adam Wharton on Feb 1st.

Why the relevance of Wharton?  Because I saw him as being the most-Alex Scott type young player in the championship.

and they didn’t replace him, even let Travis go out on loan too.

You might argue they sabotaged their season!  JDT sacked 8 days later.  Although I quite like Eustace.

Ahhhhh

thats where he came from 

Surprised he’s not jumped into this thread  

[Davefevs]

21 minutes ago, cotswoldred2 said:

 

The final half hour at Boro was awful...sorry but you are pretty much entrenched as many others on here are that Manning can do no good even when winning...there will i hope be a lot of back peddling before the end of the season. It used to be not Mannings fault  but Steve or Jon, Tinman et all for hiring him, so effing fickle. So if not Manning who? Forget Nigel, Neil  not gonna happen, we have a promising coach we need to show some bottle and give him time. 

So, are you judging reaction on the result alone and if we win it must be deemed faultless.  Even our head-coach doesn’t take that view.  There is a more nuanced view than that, that some of us have.

But you are entitled to judge it however you like.  But if we must only praise wins, are you only gonna criticise defeats?  It can there be nuance to that too?