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Is now The Gorilla in the Room. 
 

I have seen some cracking posts today! Some funny people on here!

However the club have to announce season ticket sales and pricing soon. 
 

I will renew at least one of the two I have regardless but looking at the attendance today I’m concerned that some won’t if Mr Manning is still here. 
 

I was interested (as is the club) to what extent will the continued management of Mr Manning effect your decision to renew or convince you to buy one. 

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Just now, REDOXO said:

I was interested (as is the club) to what extent will the continued management of Mr Manning effect your decision to renew or convince you to buy one. 

I was saying today that I'm all the more determined not to be driven out by the colourless chap! I'll be renewing mine.

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Not at all. My club before his, my club after he’s gone. It’ll be like Japanese Water Torture to sit through his “football” but I’ll renew mine and the kids.

Doesnt mean I like the regime. And my micro protest will be to leave it until the last minute. But by god, it’ll be a slog.

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1 minute ago, ExiledAjax said:

If I was an ST holder then I'd renew. I think the summer and next season will be interesting.

I'll certainly be renewing my membership and RTV.

My RTV subscription renews in December so I’m already paid up. 
 

But like others I’ve got both (glutton for punishment I guess well my Mrs thinks so) 

Watching on RTV today it was extremely obvious as someone said “many like their mums more than city” 

Ill be at The Leicester game in a couple of weeks and I’m thinking I’ll have plenty of places to put my coat down. 

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6 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

If I was an ST holder then I'd renew. I think the summer and next season will be interesting.

I'll certainly be renewing my membership and RTV.

I haven't seen anything that Manning has done or said that is remotely interesting. Bland, simplistic and stupid yes.

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No chance I will be renewing for me and my son. Couldn’t face it today because the QPR and Cardiff games broke me.
The football is absolutely dreadful. No doubt the lansdowns will let him carry on into next season as they find it hard to face up to their mistakes . I can’t see him being here for Christmas though then it will be up to whichever poor sod comes next to keep us up.

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I’m at 80% sure I’ll renew but will leave it until the last possible day just in case things take a turn for the worse.

Im not sure what that might be, Liam calling us a bunch of *******, something like that maybe. 

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Just now, CloudyThatchers said:

I reckon they have been waiting for a win before announcing season ticket prices - be prepared for an incoming email tomorrow morning...

Yes I think you are right. This is a bad time to be awful to watch. 

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Just now, 1960maaan said:

Conversation earlier, if the rumours are true that we will only have 5/8 home games on a Saturday at 3pm, I ay well not bother to renew , what's the point ?

5 of each weekend's matches won't be 3pm.

 

Just hope that we are on Fridays. Sunday at lunchtime is awful 

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I'm just not enjoying it anymore and the nonsense spouted by Tweedledum and Tweedledee trying to justify Pearson's dismissal is only compounded by their characterless and inept replacement.

Added to that, it seems to me, given the new EFL TV deal, there will be around 50% of home games not being 3pm Saturday KOs. No details yet, but with a guaranteed 5 championship games on TV each weekend will this mean Friday, Sunday and Monday games with various KO times as in the Prem?

So probably not renewing.

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I will renew next season and see how the combination of Binary Ball and daft tv scheduling plays out. If it’s shite then there will be a decision to make this time next season.

8 minutes ago, The Bard said:

5 of each weekend's matches won't be 3pm.

 

Just hope that we are on Fridays. Sunday at lunchtime is awful 

It’s the Thursday 4am kick offs that will be a right ******…….

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For me going to the gate is about spending time with my children - BCFC is the mechanism that enables that in what is otherwise a hectic world. Despite the performances we still get excited about the drive from Melksham (Hence Melksred) to Bedminster for the game. Like everything you have to endure the lows to fully appreciate the highs. The ying to this yang HAS to be spectacular (whenever it arrives).

I've been bitterly disappointed with the majority of performances at the gate this season- the 5 away matches I've been to have not been much better (minus West Ham of course). I, like many, feel dejected about the state of everything on the pitch - underwhelmed by the set up off it (which has yet to prove itself).

Do I envisage SL opening his wallet in Aug - not so sure...is it going to be smooth sailing next season? - highly unlikely. But inevitably, like some optimistic fool, I will part with the best part of a grand (1 adult, 2 Under 19s) and hope for a pleasant surprise. 

If ever there was a demonstration of optimism bias....It can be seen at the point that my hard earned cash departs my account for a foolish dream of, one day, watching Premier League footy at the gate.

I'm mid-40s now.....get your fingers out City.....only have (at best) another 35-40 seasons in me! ;o)

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What else you going to do on a Saturday? Enjoy yourself and live a happier life? Pffft, not for me. They’ll take my money and give me nothing in return, I’ve accepted that now. 

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As others have said, it's the new tv deal that concerns me

theyve all taken the money and absolutely shafted the fans , can't believe more hasn't been made of it tbh but I also think most people haven't a clue as to the disruption it will cause next season and beyond 

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2 minutes ago, Club and Country said:

As others have said, it's the new tv deal that concerns me

theyve all taken the money and absolutely shafted the fans , can't believe more hasn't been made of it tbh but I also think most people haven't a clue as to the disruption it will cause next season and beyond 

They should absolutely give the facts when selling season tickets.  What % of games will be on a Saturday at 3pm (in fairness, I don’t include games moved by the police in that ask) 

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2 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said:

They should absolutely give the facts when selling season tickets.  What % of games will be on a Saturday at 3pm (in fairness, I don’t include games moved by the police in that ask) 

I read that championship clubs could expect to be on the TV in about 23 games. Assuming that's 50/50 for home and away then it's seems likely we will have 11 or 12 home games affected. So that's around 50%

I may be totally wrong so best check the EFL TV deal details on their website 

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7 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said:

They should absolutely give the facts when selling season tickets.  What % of games will be on a Saturday at 3pm (in fairness, I don’t include games moved by the police in that ask) 

One positive is that we will know all TV matches (and I presume kick off times) to early Jan ‘before the start of the season’. It would be helpful if they could set this in stone as soon as the fixtures are announced in June. 

“Increased notice for fans 

With the substantial increase in the number of live matches, Sky Sports and the EFL will introduce a new commitment for clubs and fans which will provide longer notice periods on TV selections. The defined notice periods will enable clubs and fans to plan further in advance and this will include the placement of all live matches selected for broadcast for the period to FA Cup third round before the start of the season. Greater parity in the number of times that clubs are selected for TV coverage is also guaranteed.”

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6 minutes ago, Frenchay Red said:

I read that championship clubs could expect to be on the TV in about 23 games. Assuming that's 50/50 for home and away then it's seems likely we will have 11 or 12 home games affected. So that's around 50%

I may be totally wrong so best check the EFL TV deal details on their website 

Yes it was 23 matches mentioned -although that was stated to be ‘on average’. That’s the working assumption though, but as you say, we won’t know the home or away split until they are announced.

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12 minutes ago, archie andrews said:

can see now how crowds went to 3 or 4 thousand in only 2 years early 80s ......going to be same soon listening all the fickleness on ere,,,,,,,,

Range of factors tbh.

Attendances fell across the board mix of hooliganism going too far putting some off and perhaps increased unemployment in certain regions, plus dropping 3 divisions in 3 years didn't help.

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14 minutes ago, eardun said:

Yes it was 23 matches mentioned -although that was stated to be ‘on average’. That’s the working assumption though, but as you say, we won’t know the home or away split until they are announced.

So we all commit to a season ticket in march April so what happens after that soon as fixtures are released which is mid summer I recall they will be moved all over the place which then means we can't make games so just makes having a season ticket an absolute mockery.

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Just now, Ashton Fete said:

I’ll renew as I always do but one things for sure, the attendance today and overall crowd reaction during last few games will have the club very worried

Given that we won the game I think it is no bad thing, with Steve in attendance, that they got both the pitiful attendance and crowd reaction they did today. Bristol Sport and our hierarchy may be full of soundbites but as you hint at the club will be very and uncomfortably aware of how the punters are feeling after today.

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How will the televised matches affect midweek games? Presumably shift them by a day and make it an 8pm kick off rather than 7.45. It’s messing with the Saturday afternoon routine that’s a real pain. And anyway 23 televised games is an average. So that’s Sheffield United, Burnley and Luton on 35+ televised games and whoever of Ipswich or Southampton fails to get promoted, while given even our own fans aren’t that keen on watching us right now, while Manning is here we will likely only be televised 10 times at most next season!

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5 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

Given that we won the game I think it is no bad thing, with Steve in attendance, that they got both the pitiful attendance and crowd reaction they did today. Bristol Sport and our hierarchy may be full of soundbites but as you hint at the club will be very and uncomfortably aware of how the punters are feeling after today.

They can’t not. I’ve not seen anything like today for a long time.

At one point I was wondering if there was a collective boycott in protest or something. 

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4 minutes ago, Ashton Fete said:

They can’t not. I’ve not seen anything like today for a long time.

At one point I was wondering if there was a collective boycott in protest or something. 

No, the ground is normally quite empty then last 5-10 minutes it fills up very quickly. Today we got to ten minutes before and empty, five minutes before and still empty and then the players come out and it's still empty and you know that's the crowd for today.

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44 minutes ago, Dr Balls said:

How will the televised matches affect midweek games? Presumably shift them by a day and make it an 8pm kick off rather than 7.45. It’s messing with the Saturday afternoon routine that’s a real pain. And anyway 23 televised games is an average. So that’s Sheffield United, Burnley and Luton on 35+ televised games and whoever of Ipswich or Southampton fails to get promoted, while given even our own fans aren’t that keen on watching us right now, while Manning is here we will likely only be televised 10 times at most next season!

"The new deal includes an agreement that there is a more equal spread of club picks"

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8 minutes ago, Frenchay Red said:

"The new deal includes an agreement that there is a more equal spread of club picks"

But as we know some clubs are more equal than others. If Forest and Everton come down they'll be on every other week with a different opposition.

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25 minutes ago, Midred said:

But as we know some clubs are more equal than others. If Forest and Everton come down they'll be on every other week with a different opposition.

Quite possibly, but that still leaves 4 other fixtures per weekend. Until the TV games are announced we're none the wiser.🤷🏻‍♂️

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Communicated to my group today that I'm unlikely to renew next season for the first time in 20 years. It just feels like a chore and an obligation, like going to work. I'm not enjoying it and it puts me in a bad mood if we play like we have been and lose. I don't mind us being beaten by better sides if we put up a fight but there's nothing. It's not front foot, high press, attacking football. It's not even the quick breaking, counter attacking football we did have. I pay for entertainment. It's not entertaining. 


Sticking with the work analogy, I'd love an exit interview 

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If the deal is going to shaft us onto Sunday lunchtimes or afternoons up to 50% of the time then I will re consider. The benefit of being perennial underachievers is that you get to watch football mostly at its traditional time. I will seriously consider non league as an alternative if this is the case. Bad for fans, for business in the area, for pretty much everybody except the broadcasters.

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New TV deal meaning less 3pm Saturday games is the big thing for me. 
I've watched all sorts of crap over 50 odd years and what the team is doing rarely impacts on if I go or not.
I don't like night games. I don't like early kickoffs , though they are better. I don't like Sunday games .
I am seriously thinking about if it's worth it. A big thing is not being able to get away tickets, but to be honest paying best part of £600 quid and not being able to plan your weekends is shit IMO. 

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3 hours ago, eardun said:

One positive is that we will know all TV matches (and I presume kick off times) to early Jan ‘before the start of the season’. It would be helpful if they could set this in stone as soon as the fixtures are announced in June. 

“Increased notice for fans 

With the substantial increase in the number of live matches, Sky Sports and the EFL will introduce a new commitment for clubs and fans which will provide longer notice periods on TV selections. The defined notice periods will enable clubs and fans to plan further in advance and this will include the placement of all live matches selected for broadcast for the period to FA Cup third round before the start of the season. Greater parity in the number of times that clubs are selected for TV coverage is also guaranteed.”

They do exactly this for Rugby. All dates were published with fixtures up to mid January.  Gives people opportunity to request shift patterns etc or make alternative arrangements etc

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32 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

New TV deal meaning less 3pm Saturday games is the big thing for me. 
I've watched all sorts of crap over 50 odd years and what the team is doing rarely impacts on if I go or not.
I don't like night games. I don't like early kickoffs , though they are better. I don't like Sunday games .
I am seriously thinking about if it's worth it. A big thing is not being able to get away tickets, but to be honest paying best part of £600 quid and not being able to plan your weekends is shit IMO. 

Cheer up 1960m - today’s game wasn’t that bad…………..:)

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5 hours ago, blockbrowt1 said:

Was there before the Lansdowns and will be there when they've gone. God willing of course 😁

I've seen worse teams than this and worse financial times but the reasons were that nobody with real cash was there at the time. If any real City supporter had the £ billions that he has,they wouldn't worry about the spending £10 million per year in a way that he seems to.

As for renewing ST. I'm 81 in July, and have physically supported City since 1950. But the shambles of the last five months of backwards and sideways tactics sending most of us to sleep, tells me it's time to call it a day and that I should find other ways of spending my time while I'm still well and active.

 

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6 hours ago, Barrs Court Red said:

They should absolutely give the facts when selling season tickets.  What % of games will be on a Saturday at 3pm (in fairness, I don’t include games moved by the police in that ask) 

If they try to make us commit to a ST to keep our seats, before we even know the terms of the TV deal and the range of KO times, that’ll be really taking the piss.

It’s all very well the club wanting to get your money in the bank as early as they can, but with the uncertainty around the TV schedule, the only fair option is delay imposing the seat reservation deadline until we know what we’re committing to.

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7 hours ago, Dredd said:

Communicated to my group today that I'm unlikely to renew next season for the first time in 20 years. It just feels like a chore and an obligation, like going to work. I'm not enjoying it and it puts me in a bad mood if we play like we have been and lose. I don't mind us being beaten by better sides if we put up a fight but there's nothing. It's not front foot, high press, attacking football. It's not even the quick breaking, counter attacking football we did have. I pay for entertainment. It's not entertaining. 


Sticking with the work analogy, I'd love an exit interview 

I can totally relate to how you feel. 

Yesterday I didn't leave Weston until 11:50. Somehow I still managed to make it for kick off. But I just wasn't feeling it at all. 

I think I need a season or two off to see if I can get the excitement back. 

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12 hours ago, The Bard said:

5 of each weekend's matches won't be 3pm.

 

Just hope that we are on Fridays. Sunday at lunchtime is awful 

Can someone please explain what is happening regarding television next season. If this has already been discussed under another topic, then please can you let me know the topic title.

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54 minutes ago, trickytimes said:

Can someone please explain what is happening regarding television next season. If this has already been discussed under another topic, then please can you let me know the topic title.

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TV deal has all non Saturday games live.  Boxing Day, evenings etc

 

Of the 34 weekend games, 1st games and last day games are all live. That leaves 5 of 12 each weekend live for the season.

One thing they've then said is that all games will be rearranged way in advance. So we'll know in June all the kick offs up till New Year.  Half our games will be on TV. Another 4 or 5 will probably be moved from 3pm Saturday to Friday, Saturday early, or Sunday early 

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Might be a good season to skip.

City despite their lack of achievement has always been a wonderful escape from the day to day & bookmarks the weekend.

However, this season it feels toxic & confused; since Pearson got the boot, even this place has become a bit of a misery lab too, the likes I’ve never witnessed before following city. 

That said, we’ll renew - but attend less games.

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I assume this post is from a fan not the marketing/ticketing department; either way the answer is the same. Was a ST for 20 years, and renewed again when Pearson appointed. It hasnt been good to watch since Covid struck and this season has been a hard watch, home and away. Cost of travel and passing inside our own half would stop me renewing and the TV influence of changing K.O times makes it worse.

I will support the club financially who are losing so much money, just as i did in 1982, when we also needed money from true supporters. My mate next to me yesterday said he will always renew until we get foreign owners and that's a fair point too. Those not renewing are not helping this financial mess and the owners/football authorities will still see the attendance figures as being good even if we are losing £millions per month. If we support the club less financially surely it means we will see lower cost-players and the downward spiral then starts?

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23 minutes ago, Cole Not Gas said:

I assume this post is from a fan not the marketing/ticketing department; either way the answer is the same. Was a ST for 20 years, and renewed again when Pearson appointed. It hasnt been good to watch since Covid struck and this season has been a hard watch, home and away. Cost of travel and passing inside our own half would stop me renewing and the TV influence of changing K.O times makes it worse.

I will support the club financially who are losing so much money, just as i did in 1982, when we also needed money from true supporters. My mate next to me yesterday said he will always renew until we get foreign owners and that's a fair point too. Those not renewing are not helping this financial mess and the owners/football authorities will still see the attendance figures as being good even if we are losing £millions per month. If we support the club less financially surely it means we will see lower cost-players and the downward spiral then starts?

Well, if the owner has decided he doesn’t want to put as much in each year, you can hardly blame the fans either!

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5 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Well, if the owner has decided he doesn’t want to put as much in each year, you can hardly blame the fans either!

Thing is Dave he is the one man that can change the product on display.

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30 minutes ago, Cole Not Gas said:

I assume this post is from a fan not the marketing/ticketing department; either way the answer is the same. Was a ST for 20 years, and renewed again when Pearson appointed. It hasnt been good to watch since Covid struck and this season has been a hard watch, home and away. Cost of travel and passing inside our own half would stop me renewing and the TV influence of changing K.O times makes it worse.

I will support the club financially who are losing so much money, just as i did in 1982, when we also needed money from true supporters. My mate next to me yesterday said he will always renew until we get foreign owners and that's a fair point too. Those not renewing are not helping this financial mess and the owners/football authorities will still see the attendance figures as being good even if we are losing £millions per month. If we support the club less financially surely it means we will see lower cost-players and the downward spiral then starts?

As well as renewals(whom to some extent are a captive audience), what about those considering a first season ticket??....  

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Cost of living, parking, TV schedule, performances, club structure.  

These are reasons to consider when renewing against the lure of being a lifelong fan. 

I'm  an old git now so it's not straightforward for me.

I've never felt so negative about the club even during the 80's. In div 4.

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11 hours ago, 1960maaan said:

New TV deal meaning less 3pm Saturday games is the big thing for me. 
I've watched all sorts of crap over 50 odd years and what the team is doing rarely impacts on if I go or not.
I don't like night games. I don't like early kickoffs , though they are better. I don't like Sunday games .
I am seriously thinking about if it's worth it. A big thing is not being able to get away tickets, but to be honest paying best part of £600 quid and not being able to plan your weekends is shit IMO. 

Fully get it, especially Sunday lunchtime but if we ever go up (don't laugh), kickoff slots would surely be all over the place.

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5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Fully get it, especially Sunday lunchtime but if we ever go up (don't laugh), kickoff slots would surely be all over the place.

They would, but only for one year ;)

It would kind of be worth it, or expected at least. For it to be like that while we are bouncing around the Championship is different IMO.

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A couple of us pretty much decided yesterday that we won’t be renewing. That will be the first time since about 2002 for me. We’ll get memberships but pick and choose our games, and watch on TV when that’s an option.

It’s not really to do with the quality of the football or the character of the manager - we carried on through the worst of McInnes, O’Driscoll, Holden, and Lee Johnson - but due to the new TV deal. We’ll go to pretty much every Saturday 3pm kick-off and perhaps Saturday lunchtime (pain to get there so early but a few beers afterwards compensates). But there will need to be a good reason to go on a Sunday or to any evening game (particularly Friday evening, which is my least favourite KO time). It will be interesting to see how many games that actually leaves us.

The main downside will be struggling to get tickets for away games. We only go to two or three a season, but one in particular - QPR - is a regular fixture if it’s a weekend game, meeting up with some old mates who are QPR fans. But we’ll cross that bridge when we get to it.  If QPR stay up, and the game is at a time when we’d want to go, we’ll either have to get tickets via other ST holders or, as a last resort, get seats with our friends in the home end.

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3 hours ago, Cole Not Gas said:

I will support the club financially who are losing so much money, just as i did in 1982, when we also needed money from true supporters. My mate next to me yesterday said he will always renew until we get foreign owners and that's a fair point too. Those not renewing are not helping this financial mess and the owners/football authorities will still see the attendance figures as being good even if we are losing £millions per month. If we support the club less financially surely it means we will see lower cost-players and the downward spiral then starts?

Quick question. Who do you think put us in this financial position? The fans? No it's the people running the club and their strategy. Ultimately they are also the people covering the losses but let's be clear they have run up those losses on behalf of the football club. 
 

Side point - excuse me if I don't feel any guilt about not giving the club another £350+ when there's a billionaire flying in from his tax haven every week to watch the games. 

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