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3 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said:

It's an incredibly strange choice of image.

7 people in the photo, only one of which is a current first team player. Is it normal to have a big picture of the club's technical director on such a post?

Surely the club know that Tinnion and Manning are relatively unpopular figures within the fanbase right now, so why make them so prominent in the advert? We seem to have used this as an opportunity to double-down on a couple of unpopular appointments.

Very odd.

Completely agree. I'll be renewing but I really didn't want to be reminded of a manager responsible for the bland borefests we've been watching recently, or that one of the club's managerial disasters is lurking in the background. Alan Dicks and the players of the past only serve to remind us how much better things have been. I'm a fan of Zak, but he is a defender, back in the day the marketing was rather more promisingly built around the likes of Nicky Maynard banging in goals...which gets the blood racing slightly more than 'solid at the back'.

All of which could be dismissed as trivia, but it's not an image that promises much for the future.

 

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30 minutes ago, JerrySLO said:

I'll see what info we have been given at this point.

Hi Jerry, are we also able to ask why those of us in the SS are facing such a hike when compared with all other stands? Seems unjust...

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2 minutes ago, The Bard said:

No way has it been at less than 60%.

 

Maybe last Sunday.

I was told it was at around 60% a month back, figured Sunday would have dropped that number.

Regardless, it's not great at all to look at, the club had to do something to address it

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14 minutes ago, elhombrecito said:

No. It's because the club have decided that all under 12s should **** off up to the Lansdown Stand, whether or not the people they sit with have been happily sitting in the South Stand since it opened.

I’m sure I’m missing something here - it’s been a long day already! If you and your son are South Stand ST holders already, you can just renew those right? You’re not being forced to move to the Lansdown upper tier? And if you do go up there, it’s cheaper than it is in the South Stand?

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Just now, JBFC II said:

I was told it was at around 60% a month back, figured Sunday would have dropped that number.

Regardless, it's not great at all to look at, the club had to do something to address it

No excuses next season then.  Small mercies that we won’t have to read the moans every week about there not being seats available.  

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13 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Time will tell.

I get the impression people are quite pissed off, would be interesting to see how other Mother's Day game attendances were hit.

I’m pretty sure if we were playing attractive winning football it would have been “see you tea time mum” and They’d have been there cheering us on.

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1 hour ago, Red Army 75 said:

The image is putting me off to be honest 

That’s just trolling at this point.

why the **** is tinnion on the st advertising ?

what other club would advertise season tickets with their technical director or equivalent?

 

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2 minutes ago, BasSavage88 said:

If people think the south stand is empty now wait until next season 😂 

I do think there will be a reduction of sales next season although if you read this thread we'll be lucky to sell one..........will be interesting to see where we end up. I reckon sub-13K is very likely, just a case of how much less. All down to a handful of people, and I exclude Liam Manning from that list tbh.

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1 minute ago, Andrew_V1 said:

That’s just trolling at this point.

why the **** is tinnion on the st advertising ?

what other club would advertise season tickets with their technical director or equivalent?

 

Agree, it’s like putting Mark Ashton on it when he was here. Strange 

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Just now, Hartleysbeard said:

I’m sure I’m missing something here - it’s been a long day already! If you and your son are South Stand ST holders already, you can just renew those right? You’re not being forced to move to the Lansdown upper tier? And if you do go up there, it’s cheaper than it is in the South Stand?

Yes of course we can renew there. But by paying more than 10% extra for me, or more than 90% extra for him. Which is scandalous. 

And yes we could move to Upper Lansdown, and be absolutely miles from the pitch, away from the people I've been sat with since the South Stand opened, and still be paying more for the privilege than I did this season in the South Stand.

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1 minute ago, Red Army 75 said:

Agree, it’s like putting Mark Ashton on it when he was here. Strange 

As someone else said I’m pretty sure this is a shot across the bow to us mere peasants for having the audacity to question the hierarchy.

message received loud and clear will be non league games for me for a while 

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The fact is that, as much as people moan, the club know that most will suck it up and renew, including some who are currently very vocal about not doing so. Same as it is every year. Though I do wonder how many new ones they'll sell.

Tinnion being on the promo is just weird though, it would be even if he was currently unversally popular. And it'd be even weirder if Manning wasn't.

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41 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

I don't know? All I do know is that whenever I look at the South Stand all I see is loads of empty seats and people advised there are no tickets for sale in that area. I'm sure there's a solution in there somewhere.

Yes, somehow stop them sitting, standing in the Dolman or Lansdown.

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1 minute ago, Northern Red said:

The fact is that, as much as people moan, the club know that most will suck it up and renew, including some who are currently very vocal about not doing so. Same as it is every year. Though I do wonder how many new ones they'll sell.

Tinnion being on the promo is just weird though, it would be even if he was currently unversally popular. And it'd be even weirder if Manning wasn't.

My gut feel is we'll be hundreds down on sales not thousands, but down nevertheless.

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Just now, Northern Red said:

The fact is that, as much as people moan, the club know that most will suck it up and renew, including some who are currently very vocal about not doing so. Same as it is every year. Though I do wonder how many new ones they'll sell.

Tinnion being on the promo is just weird though, it would be even if he was currently unversally popular. And it'd be even weirder if Manning wasn't.

You are right, we do hear it every year. Though I do feel as though we’ve gone past a tipping point recently in some regards. 
 

TV deal makes it a non- starter for me. Which is fine, and I don’t blame clubs for signing it off as it’s worth a lot of money to them. 

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8 minutes ago, elhombrecito said:

Yes of course we can renew there. But by paying more than 10% extra for me, or more than 90% extra for him. Which is scandalous. 

And yes we could move to Upper Lansdown, and be absolutely miles from the pitch, away from the people I've been sat with since the South Stand opened, and still be paying more for the privilege than I did this season in the South Stand.

Ok, I see it what you’re saying now. It’s unfortunate for you but I’d argue the £55 for a child ST which includes a free shirt, was far too good a deal. It’s attracted people to buy them without genuine intent for that seat to be filled every match. 

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52 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

Read the room City, read the room! What on earth is Tinnion doing on there! When do football ops people end up on a promo! This is awful, Manning too at the centre of it all, go with a player instead like Pringy who deserves it. Seriously bad PR! 

Probably because Pring is next on the conveyor belt to be sold to add to our Steve’s nest egg…..

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1 minute ago, Barrs Court Red said:

You are right, we do hear it every year. Though I do feel as though we’ve gone past a tipping point recently in some regards. 
 

TV deal makes it a non- starter for me. Which is fine, and I don’t blame clubs for signing it off as it’s worth a lot of money to them. 

£2-2.5m per club/season I thought. Not certain, seen differing figures online.

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Just now, Hartleysbeard said:

Ok, I see it what you’re saying now. It’s unfortunate for you but I’d argue the £55 for a child ST which includes a free shirt, was far too good a deal. It’s attracted people to buy them without genuine intent for that seat to be filled every match. 

Bit of an administrative nightmare but maybe bring in a loyalty system where the child's ticket attendance this season being over say 70% (please people don't get too hung up on this number, I made it up) gets you the lower price for the following season whereas the selfish git whose niece attended once pays quadruple for a child ticket? 

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9 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

The fact is that, as much as people moan, the club know that most will suck it up and renew, including some who are currently very vocal about not doing so. Same as it is every year. Though I do wonder how many new ones they'll sell.

Tinnion being on the promo is just weird though, it would be even if he was currently unversally popular. And it'd be even weirder if Manning wasn't.

Tbf I’ve been quite vocal that I’ll renew come what may, while still criticising the club. The move in kickoffs is likely to really impact me though as I run a grassroots team and as such next season will probably be a trial run. The balance will be between losing seats which I really do like and have had for years versus reduced games attended (and I always factor in not being at 2-3 games a year) and what that does to net price.

If the football is as it is, I can see 25/26 being very messy for that reason for a lot of people. It really is make or break for them.

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On 10/03/2024 at 17:26, Silvio Dante said:

Not at all. My club before his, my club after he’s gone. It’ll be like Japanese Water Torture to sit through his “football” but I’ll renew mine and the kids.

Doesnt mean I like the regime. And my micro protest will be to leave it until the last minute. But by god, it’ll be a slog.

I suppose at least if you go to the games you don't have to listen to him. 

 

I hope the improved match day experience is 'improved'. How I don't know?

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7 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

The fact is that, as much as people moan, the club know that most will suck it up and renew, including some who are currently very vocal about not doing so. Same as it is every year. Though I do wonder how many new ones they'll sell.

Tinnion being on the promo is just weird though, it would be even if he was currently unversally popular. And it'd be even weirder if Manning wasn't.

Won't be renewing that's 100% not until things change. They need to know how we feel and that's by not renewing.

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Just now, Numero Uno said:

Bit of an administrative nightmare but maybe bring in a loyalty system where the child's ticket attendance this season being over say 70% (please people don't get too hung up on this number, I made it up) gets you the lower price for the following season whereas the selfish git whose niece attended once pays quadruple for a child ticket? 

Sounds like a good idea. 

 

 

 

They don't do those.

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1 minute ago, Barrs Court Red said:

You are right, we do hear it every year. Though I do feel as though we’ve gone past a tipping point recently in some regards. 
 

TV deal makes it a non- starter for me. Which is fine, and I don’t blame clubs for signing it off as it’s worth a lot of money to them. 

Yeah, the TV deal is an added potential tipping point and I'm not sure how widespread the awareness is about it, which the club haven't yet done anything to aid either (though I suspect they're not alone amongst the rest of the EFL clubs in that). As Silvio says above, next season may well prove to be a trial run for many, as people buy and then find games being shifted all over.

 

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7 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

I do think there will be a reduction of sales next season although if you read this thread we'll be lucky to sell one..........will be interesting to see where we end up. I reckon sub-13K is very likely, just a case of how much less. All down to a handful of people, and I exclude Liam Manning from that list tbh.

A lot less imo - I think you're hugely underestimating the mutiny we're about to see.

It's been rubbish entertainment down there for many years (average 8 home wins per season in the last 9 seasons?) and I think with the diabolical treatment of NP and a less than inspiring replacement this is the year fans finally follow through on their threats not to renew by actually doing it.

So many fans are pissed off with Bristol City FC and the continuing dreadful decisions that drain all hope and I wouldn't be at all surprised at a mass desertion by several thousand.

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21 minutes ago, JBFC II said:

I was told it was at around 60% a month back, figured Sunday would have dropped that number.

Regardless, it's not great at all to look at, the club had to do something to address it

 South stand includes the corner which is almost always over capacity.  So you need to factor that in.

There are a lot of under 19s under 22s etc in the stand as well. Some have had STs since being 5. This will drive a lot of  them away.  There will be a lot of unintended outcomes to this..

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36 minutes ago, Ronnie Sinclair said:

Tinnion now our version of John Terry a la the Champions League final - if we ever get promoted he will be on the pitch in full kit.

PS they aren't getting a penny out of me for the foreseeable future - it won't dent their coffers by that much but it will make me feel better that I'm not partially funding their idiocy

Exactly that don't fund it if people keep paying it they won't get the message make them think and tinman and manning on the picture doesn't that thrill you for next season 😂

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5 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

A lot less imo - I think you're hugely underestimating the mutiny we're about to see.

It's been rubbish entertainment down there for many years (average 8 home wins per season in the last 9 seasons?) and I think with the diabolical treatment of NP and a less than inspiring replacement this is the year fans finally follow through on their threats not to renew by actually doing it.

So many fans are pissed off with Bristol City FC and the continuing dreadful decisions that drain all hope and I wouldn't be at all surprised at a mass desertion by several thousand.

I'm pissed off with Bristol City's hierarchy, that's for sure but I hear the same talk every year and this forum magnifies the discontent tbh. Not saying it's impossible (the person I meet down there is packing in) but unlikely to be thousands imo. Many people go to football for more than the football (which is just as well given the total shite we endure week in, week out).

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1 minute ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

A lot less imo - I think you're hugely underestimating the mutiny we're about to see.

It's been rubbish entertainment down there for many years (average 8 home wins per season in the last 9 seasons?) and I think with the diabolical treatment of NP and a less than inspiring replacement this is the year fans finally follow through on their threats not to renew by actually doing it.

So many fans are pissed off with Bristol City FC and the continuing dreadful decisions that drain all hope and I wouldn't be at all surprised at a mass desertion by several thousand.

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One of the most measured, sensible posters on here. 

I very much doubt that Nogbad is quite filled with the anger that I am, but if he is, I don't think that it would affect his posts and measured view.

And this what even he is saying. 

These clowns have to go.

 

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How much do we expect fixtures to be moved from Sat 3pm? I’ll be one of those trying to juggle attending with other commitments like coaching a grass roots team. If there are more frequent Sunday fixtures, I fear I’m going to lose the value of being an ST holder. That said, I’m usually able to shift my tickets to friends when unable to attend. Much easier to do that when we’re playing well of course!

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2 minutes ago, Superjack said:

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One of the most measured, sensible posters on here. 

I very much doubt that Nogbad is quite filled with the anger that I am, but if he is, I don't think that it would affect his posts and measured view.

And this what even he is saying. 

These clowns have to go.

 

He's bang on 

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10 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

Bit of an administrative nightmare but maybe bring in a loyalty system where the child's ticket attendance this season being over say 70% (please people don't get too hung up on this number, I made it up) gets you the lower price for the following season whereas the selfish git whose niece attended once pays quadruple for a child ticket? 

What I dont understand though, is if an adult buys a childs ST just to get a shirt and a seat next to him for the remaining 20 quid or so, why would he not take a mate or family member with him? The stewards take no notice of adults going in on blue lights. I will always maintain the majority of the empty seats are SS ticket holders sitting elsewhere.

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Quite a hike for me in the south stand with two kids tickets. 
 

Think it’s very odd to attempt to get more pay on the day in the South Stand in this way. As people have suggested on here before, if you want more pay on the day/less gaps from ST holders who can’t attend - give us a way of releasing our tickets for sale and chucking us a few loyalty points in exchange. Gets you both rather than people questioning whether they want to renew. 

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The club quote the following:

Adults start from £390 (£17 per game) in a newly expanded Family Area next season, while the popular South Stand is £425 for renewing adults (£18 per game).

Well, the South Stand prices are not "£18 per game", it is actually £18.48 per game.

If it was "£18" per game the total price would be 23 x £18 = £414 (not £425!).

I know and appreciate the numbers have been rounded, but why not quote the real actual cost per game.

 

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11 minutes ago, Hartleysbeard said:

How much do we expect fixtures to be moved from Sat 3pm? I’ll be one of those trying to juggle attending with other commitments like coaching a grass roots team. If there are more frequent Sunday fixtures, I fear I’m going to lose the value of being an ST holder. That said, I’m usually able to shift my tickets to friends when unable to attend. Much easier to do that when we’re playing well of course!

5 out of 12 games are being shifted each weekend. So I'd assume that a fair few of our games that would've otherwise been 3pm will be moved. 

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17 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

A lot less imo - I think you're hugely underestimating the mutiny we're about to see.

It's been rubbish entertainment down there for many years (average 8 home wins per season in the last 9 seasons?) and I think with the diabolical treatment of NP and a less than inspiring replacement this is the year fans finally follow through on their threats not to renew by actually doing it.

So many fans are pissed off with Bristol City FC and the continuing dreadful decisions that drain all hope and I wouldn't be at all surprised at a mass desertion by several thousand.

Very pissed off. It's sad I feel such apathy towards a club I love. It feels a shadow of it's former self.

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1 hour ago, And Its Smith said:

I’d suggest anyone really angry doesn’t renew. Hit them where it hurts 

This, 100%.

Need our fan base to really put on a show of protest against the owners and what they've done. Lying to us fans, treating us like mugs, spouting BS and hiring mediocre in high positions (JL, BT, LM..) 

Enough is enough. Definition of insanity, doing the same thing and expecting different results. We can't complain if we keep renewing, giving into the 'real fan' idea, and hitting them where it hurts, the pocket. 

Protesting and staying away doesn't mean you're any less of a fan, it shows you care greatly about your club and you've had enough. A decision that absolutely is NOT taken lightly, and it angers me that it seems this is the only way to get through to them (other than bedsheets/chants at games but this realistically isn't going to happen sadly, not with our fan base now) 

The arrogance and bullshit that's come from this club is astonishing, and it angers me greatly that not long ago, we were all united as one, heading in the right direction, being able to see what's happening with the team and the reasons for it, felt like we were in safe hands, with someone with vast experience at this level and beyond, who didn't suffer fools gladly. 

Now we have BT and LM. Great. With JL leading the way as chairman. 

I've never felt so detached from this club I love. And the increase in ST's just tops it off. 

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1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

For reference:

 

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Do you know, the most surprising and actually quite disappointing thing about those figures is that we only have 973 season ticket holders between the age of 19 and 24!! 
That really doesn’t seem like a lot. 
When I was a ‘young adult’ my Saturdays were 100% all about City. And there seemed to be lots of people of my age at that time. 
This really doesn’t seem like very many, in what would usually be an age group likely to be the more ‘boisterous’ and likely to create atmosphere. 

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1 minute ago, Snufflelufagus said:

What were the members POD prices for this season?

Good question. I’d like to know that too as the tv deal may impact my attendance at odd kick off times. 

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Just now, Harry said:

Do you know, the most surprising and actually quite disappointing thing about those figures is that we only have 973 season ticket holders between the age of 19 and 24!! 
That really doesn’t seem like a lot. 
When I was a ‘young adult’ my Saturdays were 100% all about City. And there seemed to be lots of people of my age at that time. 
This really doesn’t seem like very many, in what would usually be an age group likely to be the more ‘boisterous’ and likely to create atmosphere. 

And they're totally disenchanted with the whole Manning/Pearson/Tinnion thing. My son, nephew their mates etc.  

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2 hours ago, Red Army 75 said:

The image is putting me off to be honest 

It’s putting me off as well! The Manning propaganda machine in full effect now then. Wonder if he will be on the image this time next year?! As many have said why is Tinnion on it? 

As for the prices, 10% is too much of an increase. 

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11 minutes ago, Dolman Block B said:

Throughout social media forums there’s so many fans unhappy and sounds as though many will not renew. 
 

When’s there’s 22k in the stadium it’s like a morgue, imagine 17/18k per game

And that's including the ST's that don't turn up!

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1 hour ago, Redshorts said:

Season tickets are out today, got to say they look reasonable prices.

https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/season-ticket-renewals-from-march-18th/

 

 

 

You reckon??

They’re getting extra TV revenue from the new deal ….. and us fans are getting pissed around with ko times and days all over the shop to accomodate the televised games, to say nothing of the shit football on offer.

Sounds anything but reasonable to me tbh.

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I visit the footbasll side of this forum with a heavy heart these days, just because the overall mood on here is so damned negative and a million miles away from what I experience at the ground. Things aren't perfect but, in general, the change of manager was met with understanding, and the mood is still one of support for the team and manager despite the last few results. If you only read on here though, you would think we are at our lowest ebb for many a year with a board intent on destroying the club.

With this ST launch though, I can't help but feel that something, somewhere is not right behind the scenes.

They must know that Tinnion is not exactly popular at the moment amongst a section of the fanbase, yet they still chose to put him on the radio on Monday and figure him prominently in the promo for this. It feels deliberate for some unknown reason.

The increase in prices of over 10% with barely an acknowledgement feels cynical too.

I do think they have made the right move in trying to move the £50 U12 tickets to the family area and have no reason to complain about that, but the messaging about what is going on with SS tickets is jumbled and not very clear cut.

I think it is almost inevitable that we will see a drop in ticket sales, just on the prices alone. This year the hype definitely feels unjustified.

Having said that, I will be renewing, but for possibly the first time ever I have been given a reason to think about that choice and it's not comfortable.

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2 minutes ago, One Team said:

It’s putting me off as well! The Manning propaganda machine in full effect now then. Wonder if he will be on the image this time next year?! As many have said why is Tinnion on it? 

As for the prices, 10% is too much of an increase. 

Who else could they put on apart from Manning and Tinnion?

They've sacked everyone else. 

I suppose we should be grateful that it isn't just both Lansdowns.

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2 hours ago, Red Army 75 said:

The image is putting me off to be honest 

This does beg the very relevant question of why have they chosen to plaster Tinnion’s face over the season ticket marketing?

Manning obviously makes sense for obvious reasons, like what he is doing or not. But Tinnion??? It’s like they either haven’t heard anything of the discontent from the fans, or deliberately wanting to run our noses in it. I really can’t decide!

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1 minute ago, Superjack said:

Who else could they put on apart from Manning and Tinnion?

They've sacked everyone else. 

I suppose we should be grateful that it isn't just both Lansdowns.

I would have thought a montage of the current squad would be the most appropriate. That could go for every season!

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