Season Ticket Renewal!

[milo1111]

I didn’t renew as I really resent being lied to and taken for a joke/mug. I’m glad I stuck to my guns. I’ll still go to a few games no doubt but will absolutely not be taken for granted.

[1960maaan]

3 hours ago, Dolman Block B said:

I think for me it’s the scare factor  the team will do really well and get promoted or a playoff place. 

I did that just as Gary Johnson nearly did an Ipswich with us .  Still went , not so often and only got a Season Ticket again 2016 for various reasons. 

I reckon if I didn't get one we would be European Champions in a couple of years 

[!james]

Good football?

[cidercity1987]

3 minutes ago, Kingston_Red said:

Really pleased with it. Apart from today, passing football with 2 10s, not his squad, making players better…..positive signs ahead

Holden loved 2 10's

[Engvall’s Splinter]

6 minutes ago, Kingston_Red said:

Excellent news that we have sold so many season tickets, glad to see a fan base largely behind the club and the good football we have been seeing on the pitch. Clearly the negativity of OTIB isn’t reflected amongst the wider fan base.

well done the fans, well done the board, well done manning - exciting times ahead.

Well done the board? Got to be a wind up ? 

[Silvio Dante]

Evening Lez. Good to see you back.

 

[Franklin CITY]

I smell Gas

 

 

[ExiledAjax]

2 minutes ago, Franklin CITY said:

I smell Gas

No, it's just a sad old man who's now onto what must be his 73rd OTIB account. 

[Street red]

2 hours ago, Kingston_Red said:

Excellent news that we have sold so many season tickets, glad to see a fan base largely behind the club and the good football we have been seeing on the pitch. Clearly the negativity of OTIB isn’t reflected amongst the wider fan base.

well done the fans, well done the board, well done manning - exciting times ahead.

Joined 15 hours ago Exciting? The Lansdowns are still here not getting my hopes up. 

[Davefevs]

57 minutes ago, Street red said:

Joined 15 hours ago Exciting? The Lansdowns are still here not getting my hopes up. 

Just Lez again.

[REDOXO]

How sad exactly are some people!? 

[David Brent]

5 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

Evening Lez. Good to see you back.

 

Is it?

[1960maaan]

10 hours ago, Kingston_Red said:

Excellent news that we have sold so many season tickets, glad to see a fan base largely behind the club and the good football we have been seeing on the pitch. Clearly the negativity of OTIB isn’t reflected amongst the wider fan base.

well done the fans, well done the board, well done manning - exciting times ahead.

Lets pick this apart one bit at a time;

"Excellent news that we have sold so many season tickets"  

We sold 15,000 last year , not seen an update from the Club for a while, where are we now ?

"glad to see a fan base largely behind the club"

The fanbase is always behind the Club . Many may have problems with the Board, the Manager , the owners etc. But the one constant in all of this is we all support Bristol City, however shit they are at the time.

"the good football we have been seeing on the pitch."

Probably could have picked a better time to say that FFS.

"well done the board,"

What exactly have they done well ?

"well done manning"

Well , taking his time here are you seeing a Promotion push ?  I would say the Jury is out. Some good games, some absolute shit shows and some dubious calls . He has earned a Pre-season with his good run, after a bad run that had brought serious questions over his future. 

Like I say , the Jury is out.

Exciting times ? Time will tell. 

[Bristol Rob]

12 hours ago, cidercity1987 said:

Holden loved 2 10's

Texas Holden.

[Nogbad the Bad]

18 hours ago, Numero Uno said:

Said all along we would be a few hundred maybe several hundred down. Some were predicting thousands down. Was never going to happen…..this season.

I was one of those and I'm very surprised at the numbers.

What is clear from OTIB is many of those adamantly stating they wouldn't renew couldn't go through with it when it came to the crunch, whether that be because of the late run, an addiction they couldn't face kicking, even temporarily, or the threat of not being able to get a seat in the future if they gave theirs up.

Certainly appears ST's have not been renewed enthusiastically in many cases.

As I've said I'd still like to see a breakdown of sales and how many full paying adult ST's the club has lost; an increase in complimentary tickets or kid's tickets in the announced total, like last year, shouldn't mask what still appears to me to be an underlying disenchantment amongst many long standing fans.

[Natchfever]

33 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

I was one of those and I'm very surprised at the numbers.

What is clear from OTIB is many of those adamantly stating they wouldn't renew couldn't go through with it when it came to the crunch, whether that be because of the late run, an addiction they couldn't face kicking, even temporarily, or the threat of not being able to get a seat in the future if they gave theirs up.

Certainly appears ST's have not been renewed enthusiastically in many cases.

As I've said I'd still like to see a breakdown of sales and how many full paying adult ST's the club has lost; an increase in complimentary tickets or kid's tickets in the announced total, like last year, shouldn't mask what still appears to me to be an underlying disenchantment amongst many long standing fans.

I always thought the vast majority of naysayers would renew but what is the current stated number of sales and does anyone think there is the remotest chance that the club might be telling fibs?

I understoodv12k was announced a while back.

[W-S-M Seagull]

1 hour ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

Certainly appears ST's have not been renewed enthusiastically in many cases.

This is it. 

Last season I renewed being optimistic that the reset was over and that we could and should then push forward. 

I was optimistic going into the season but it ended up being a very long season where it felt like a chore attending at times. 

This renewal period is completely different. I have no optimism for next season. I simply renewed to secure seats. 

 

[REDOXO]

4 hours ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

I was one of those and I'm very surprised at the numbers.

What is clear from OTIB is many of those adamantly stating they wouldn't renew couldn't go through with it when it came to the crunch, whether that be because of the late run, an addiction they couldn't face kicking, even temporarily, or the threat of not being able to get a seat in the future if they gave theirs up.

Certainly appears ST's have not been renewed enthusiastically in many cases.

As I've said I'd still like to see a breakdown of sales and how many full paying adult ST's the club has lost; an increase in complimentary tickets or kid's tickets in the announced total, like last year, shouldn't mask what still appears to me to be an underlying disenchantment amongst many long standing fans.

 

2 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

This is it. 

Last season I renewed being optimistic that the reset was over and that we could and should then push forward. 

I was optimistic going into the season but it ended up being a very long season where it felt like a chore attending at times. 

This renewal period is completely different. I have no optimism for next season. I simply renewed to secure seats. 

 

I think the above pretty much sums everything up!

I always say I’m a City fundamentalist, I’m always hopeful, however what ever that was last October time dented my support for the ownership, the son of the ownership and sadly Brian Tinnion.
 

As it did for a majority of supporters!

Nevertheless a new season new hope!
 

I think Mr Manning will not get as much time from the supporters, if the season starts poorly,  anyone else would coming in due to the circumstances the decision makers created.
 

But the decision makers have no choice but to back him, within reason, so I guess we will see. 

[Davefevs]

Update from Tom Rawcliffe on @3 Peaps In A PodCast this morning:

“Just shy of thirteen and a half thousand now, and at this stage you’d normally be between 90 and 95 percent of your sales, and I’m hoping that by the time the season ticks round we will be around the fourteen thousand mark, which is really good for us as a club”.

Other thing, which we all knew anyone, all clubs report tickets sold (not people in the ground).

South Stand is 98% season tickets, last season, but that wasn’t 98% full.

[1960maaan]

15 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Update from Tom Rawcliffe on @3 Peaps In A PodCast this morning:

“Just shy of thirteen and a half thousand now, and at this stage you’d normally be between 90 and 95 percent of your sales, and I’m hoping that by the time the season ticks round we will be around the fourteen thousand mark, which is really good for us as a club”.

Other thing, which we all knew anyone, all clubs report tickets sold (not people in the ground).

South Stand is 98% season tickets, last season, but that wasn’t 98% full.

13,500 is good , but didn't we have 15k last year ? 
I know that was with 1/2 Season tickets, but did we do 1500 at Christmas ?

[Bobby girl]

We have had our ticket come to our phones, first game is on a Thursday night. Has anyone else?

[Andy082005]

11 minutes ago, Bobby girl said:

We have had our ticket come to our phones, first game is on a Thursday night. Has anyone else?

Yeah mine has just updated to 

I don’t know what’s stranger - the fact is says it’s a Thursday night game or the fact that I haven’t even renewed next season

[Laner]

It's 23/24 ticket with Aug 1 showing as the date of the next match. Not the new ticket, or at least that what mine is showing.

[Back of the Dolman]

30 minutes ago, Laner said:

It's 23/24 ticket with Aug 1 showing as the date of the next match. Not the new ticket, or at least that what mine is showing.

Fixtures haven’t been released yet !

[Silvio Dante]

Yeah it’s just an app reset as opposed to either confirming the date of the first game, or a renewal of the season ticket. Few giveaways:

- Although it’s a new TV deal there is no way they’re kicking off games at 5pm on a Thursday night!

- The constitution of the division isn’t complete, let alone the fixtures

- And for me, my son’s ticket moves from an U12 to an U19. He’s still U12 following the pass update.

Nothing to see here guys.

[Laner]

24 minutes ago, Back of the Dolman said:

Fixtures haven’t been released yet !

I know, it still says 23/24. I didn't think for a moment it was the new ticket. I was just trying to answer the OP.

[Cityboy1954]

I expect the  club has messed up again .

[Back of the Dolman]

3 minutes ago, Laner said:

I know, it still says 23/24. I didn't think for a moment it was the new ticket. I was just trying to answer the OP.

Yes I wasn’t particularly replying to your comment, I was more backing what you said

[Street red]

1 hour ago, Andy082005 said:

Yeah mine has just updated to 

I don’t know what’s stranger - the fact is says it’s a Thursday night game or the fact that I haven’t even renewed next season

Free season ticket didn't know it was a thing 

[Back of the Dolman]

9am on the 26th of June is the release date for next seasons fixtures.

[REDOXO]

21 hours ago, Cityboy1954 said:

I expect the  club has messed up again .

It’s probably a test to update and install the updated software!

[phantom]

On 05/05/2024 at 17:11, 1960maaan said:

13,500 is good , but didn't we have 15k last year ? 
I know that was with 1/2 Season tickets, but did we do 1500 at Christmas ?

13.500 is practically bang on to sales as last season

One thing that people are missing is that no hospitality has been put on sale yet.

All 18 executive boxes will be up for sale and all the other hospitality tickets are still to be added

[ralphindevon]

40 minutes ago, phantom said:

13.500 is practically bang on to sales as last season

One thing that people are missing is that no hospitality has been put on sale yet.

All 18 executive boxes will be up for sale and all the other hospitality tickets are still to be added

I’d be interested in the hospitality numbers.

The Lansdown suite seats are all immediately to the left of me and the amount of empty seats this season compared to pre Covid is huge.

I’ve spoken to a few who have ditched it and they’ve said it had gone up so much isn’t worth the money or is just too much to pay nowadays.

I haven’t looked at prices for next season, I wonder if they’re up, down or the same price?

[Davefevs]

Coventry going more aggressive than us in their approach to their Family zone tickets vs our South Stand.

Obviously not directly comparable, just referring to the approach.

Feels a bit heavy handed.

 

[eardun]

48 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Coventry going more aggressive than us in their approach to their Family zone tickets vs our South Stand.

Obviously not directly comparable, just referring to the approach.

Feels a bit heavy handed.

 

Agree it does look harsh. When I saw that they were launching a ticket exchange, I thought great. Until I read this:

“Added to Family Zone area Terms and Conditions, if fans are unable to attend then they must put their tickets on the Ticket Exchange. Failure to do this on 3 occasions or more will result in your Season Ticket being revoked for the remainder of the season with the seats being offered on a match-by-match basis to those who qualify. Furthermore, using the Ticket Exchange on more than 10 occasions will also result in your Season Ticket being revoked for the remainder of the season – no refunds will be given.”

[Bristol Rob]

1 minute ago, eardun said:

Agree it does look harsh. When I saw that they were launching a ticket exchange, I thought great. Until I read this:

“Added to Family Zone area Terms and Conditions, if fans are unable to attend then they must put their tickets on the Ticket Exchange. Failure to do this on 3 occasions or more will result in your Season Ticket being revoked for the remainder of the season with the seats being offered on a match-by-match basis to those who qualify. Furthermore, using the Ticket Exchange on more than 10 occasions will also result in your Season Ticket being revoked for the remainder of the season – no refunds will be given.”

And we have still to see how the new TV deal will play out.

Shocking decision by the club.

[38MC]

14 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

And we have still to see how the new TV deal will play out.

Shocking decision by the club.

I agree it’s a shocking decision. Hopefully fans realise that twice you can not put the ticket on the ticket exchange and 10 times you can put it on the exchange. So you only need drag them to 11 games. 

Shockingly drafted by the lawyer who probably missed an ‘And/or’. ‘Don’t put it on the exchange twice’ but still ‘can use the ticket exchange 10 times’  

Edited May 10 by 38MC

[Barrs Court Red]

31 minutes ago, eardun said:

Agree it does look harsh. When I saw that they were launching a ticket exchange, I thought great. Until I read this:

“Added to Family Zone area Terms and Conditions, if fans are unable to attend then they must put their tickets on the Ticket Exchange. Failure to do this on 3 occasions or more will result in your Season Ticket being revoked for the remainder of the season with the seats being offered on a match-by-match basis to those who qualify. Furthermore, using the Ticket Exchange on more than 10 occasions will also result in your Season Ticket being revoked for the remainder of the season – no refunds will be given.”

Ouch. That’s pretty severe. 

[cidercity1987]

Brilliant from Coventry to get rid of the selfish sorts 

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, Bristol Rob said:

And we have still to see how the new TV deal will play out.

Shocking decision by the club.

I know, that was my reply to a Cov fan….why not try the ticket exchange next season as a trial, gather your data, assess the impacts of the tv deal, then evolve from there the season after.

[RedRoss]

On 02/05/2024 at 09:09, IAmNick said:

Here's the sold amount (minus south stand and boxes):

 

 

Here's the % sold per block:

Are you able to update again? Would be interesting to see where we've got to.

Edited May 13 by RedRoss

[IAmNick]

21 hours ago, RedRoss said:

Are you able to update again? Would be interesting to see where we've got to.

Here you go, sold another 200 or so I think so slowed down a lot now:

 

The graph is here if you want to hover over the points yourself: http://iamnick.xyz/

[frenchred]

1 hour ago, IAmNick said:

Here you go, sold another 200 or so I think so slowed down a lot now:

 

The graph is here if you want to hover over the points yourself: http://iamnick.xyz/

If I'm reading that correctly we are quite a bit down on last season?

[RedRoss]

1 minute ago, frenchred said:

If I'm reading that correctly we are quite a bit down on last season?

Not that simple to work out really, think it was 15k last season but that was including half season tickets. That figure above is also not including approx 2.5k for the south stand. 

[phantom]

8 minutes ago, frenchred said:

If I'm reading that correctly we are quite a bit down on last season?

As already mentioned this doesn't include any of the corporate tickets as they are later going on sale

5 minutes ago, RedRoss said:

Not that simple to work out really, think it was 15k last season but that was including half season tickets. That figure above is also not including approx 2.5k for the south stand. 

And this

[westonred]

Do we know how many ST's have been sold ?  The club are still busy advertising them all over social media so do i take from this we havent sold the expected target ?

[GrahamC]

2 hours ago, westonred said:

Do we know how many ST's have been sold ?  The club are still busy advertising them all over social media so do i take from this we havent sold the expected target ?

Why would you draw the conclusion that advertising means fewer sales?

There is absolutely no logic behind that.

[BS3 Ark at Ee]

13,000+

[westonred]

2 hours ago, GrahamC said:

Why would you draw the conclusion that advertising means fewer sales?

There is absolutely no logic behind that.

Because someone on here said there is a cut off of 15k leaving the rest as POTD so as they are still advertising they havent reached that target

[italian dave]

6 hours ago, westonred said:

Because someone on here said there is a cut off of 15k leaving the rest as POTD so as they are still advertising they havent reached that target

Maximum and expected target are not the same things. 

[W-S-M Seagull]

On 10/05/2024 at 21:21, Davefevs said:

I know, that was my reply to a Cov fan….why not try the ticket exchange next season as a trial, gather your data, assess the impacts of the tv deal, then evolve from there the season after.

I think Dave this has been an ongoing problem for them. So it's not come out of the blue. If I recall rightly I believe they had a massive problem before with adults using the cheap child's tickets so they clamped down on that. 

[exAtyeoMax]

13 hours ago, italian dave said:

Maximum and expected target are not the same things. 

I don’t know what that means in relation to them pushing STs?

[Cov 77]

On 05/05/2024 at 16:53, Davefevs said:

Update from Tom Rawcliffe on @3 Peaps In A PodCast this morning:

“Just shy of thirteen and a half thousand now, and at this stage you’d normally be between 90 and 95 percent of your sales, and I’m hoping that by the time the season ticks round we will be around the fourteen thousand mark, which is really good for us as a club”.

Other thing, which we all knew anyone, all clubs report tickets sold (not people in the ground).

South Stand is 98% season tickets, last season, but that wasn’t 98% full.

Obviously about 13,500 on May 5th , talk on here a few hundred more sold since , so on target for 14,000 at least which I think was about where we were last season ( half tickets withstanding) 

[phantom]

18 minutes ago, Cov 77 said:

Obviously about 13,500 on May 5th , talk on here a few hundred more sold since , so on target for 14,000 at least which I think was about where we were last season ( half tickets withstanding) 

and corporate...

[Chairman Mao]

A half decent transfer window would surely boost by another 500? 

[italian dave]

4 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said:

I don’t know what that means in relation to them pushing STs?

My interpretation would be that

a) there’s the 15,000 maximum which they apparently won’t go beyond so that they have enough POTD, and

b) another figure which they’ll have as a target. I’d assume that will be something internal, part of the budgeting, and not made public, but let’s say 14,000 (roughly last years)

So they’ll keep pushing them even if they hit the 14,000 ; ideally they get up to the maximum and then stop.

Not sure how I feel about the 15,000 limit; do you know if anyone from the club has explained that? I’d just assumed they’d want to sell as many season tickets as there are seats! 

[Sir Geoff]

43 minutes ago, italian dave said:

My interpretation would be that

a) there’s the 15,000 maximum which they apparently won’t go beyond so that they have enough POTD, and

b) another figure which they’ll have as a target. I’d assume that will be something internal, part of the budgeting, and not made public, but let’s say 14,000 (roughly last years)

So they’ll keep pushing them even if they hit the 14,000 ; ideally they get up to the maximum and then stop.

Not sure how I feel about the 15,000 limit; do you know if anyone from the club has explained that? I’d just assumed they’d want to sell as many season tickets as there are seats! 

Need to leave some for members and other potd, I guess.

Problem is if the football is dull and we're not winning, they won't pick up many potd punters.

[Topper 123]

47 minutes ago, italian dave said:

My interpretation would be that

a) there’s the 15,000 maximum which they apparently won’t go beyond so that they have enough POTD, and

b) another figure which they’ll have as a target. I’d assume that will be something internal, part of the budgeting, and not made public, but let’s say 14,000 (roughly last years)

So they’ll keep pushing them even if they hit the 14,000 ; ideally they get up to the maximum and then stop.

Not sure how I feel about the 15,000 limit; do you know if anyone from the club has explained that? I’d just assumed they’d want to sell as many season tickets as there are seats! 

I think your right Dave , the club will keep selling seats throughout summer and the season plus the half tickets at Christmas, I don’t know why they then don’t start selling block bookings ie 4 games at a time at a slightly reduced rate anything that helps to sell tickets -we could with a couple of good signings hit the 16000 mark and I still think club SHOULD continue to sell tickets if there required as they say “ only one good season away “then if you didn’t own a seat it would be hard work with less than 5000 left for pod  fans 

[Betty Swallocks]

1 hour ago, italian dave said:

My interpretation would be that

a) there’s the 15,000 maximum which they apparently won’t go beyond so that they have enough POTD, and

b) another figure which they’ll have as a target. I’d assume that will be something internal, part of the budgeting, and not made public, but let’s say 14,000 (roughly last years)

So they’ll keep pushing them even if they hit the 14,000 ; ideally they get up to the maximum and then stop.

Not sure how I feel about the 15,000 limit; do you know if anyone from the club has explained that? I’d just assumed they’d want to sell as many season tickets as there are seats! 

It’s an EFL rule that you need to leave a % of the grounds capacity for general sale/POTD.

This rule has been in place for a number of years now. 

Not sure what AG’s cap is but it’s a higher than 15,000. 

 

 

 

 

[phantom]

44 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said:

It’s an EFL rule that you need to leave a % of the grounds capacity for general sale/POTD.

This rule has been in place for a number of years now. 

Not sure what AG’s cap is but it’s a higher than 15,000. 

I was thinking the same

I have seen 15k mentioned a few times now as if it is fact, when it has never been confirmed

[italian dave]

7 hours ago, Betty Swallocks said:

It’s an EFL rule that you need to leave a % of the grounds capacity for general sale/POTD.

This rule has been in place for a number of years now. 

Not sure what AG’s cap is but it’s a higher than 15,000. 

 

 

 

 

Never knew that! You learn something every day. Thanks.

[italian dave]

8 hours ago, Sir Geoff said:

Need to leave some for members and other potd, I guess.

Problem is if the football is dull and we're not winning, they won't pick up many potd punters.

That’s the negative view! It’s also possible that the football will be good and we’ll be doing well. In which case you pick up potd punters who are paying twice what a season ticket holder has paid. 

[Sir Geoff]

11 hours ago, italian dave said:

That’s the negative view! It’s also possible that the football will be good and we’ll be doing well. In which case you pick up potd punters who are paying twice what a season ticket holder has paid. 

Whichever, its still a gamble vs guaranteed income.

[1960maaan]

11 hours ago, italian dave said:

Never knew that! You learn something every day. Thanks.

Norwich announced about 21,000 ST sell out last year, capacity is around 27,000 I believe . 
It allows for away tickets and PotD , but also higher away allowance for Cup games . 

[Sir Geoff]

22 hours ago, phantom said:

I was thinking the same

I have seen 15k mentioned a few times now as if it is fact, when it has never been confirmed

Isn't that the figure Gavin Marshall muttered on FBC pod ?

[phantom]

2 hours ago, Sir Geoff said:

Isn't that the figure Gavin Marshall muttered on FBC pod ?

An actual figure has never been quoted, he just mentioned a cap

[1960maaan]

2 minutes ago, phantom said:

An actual figure has never been quoted, he just mentioned a cap

Sales ploy ?
When selling something tell people there is a shortage / limitations and they will buy . 

The 'cap' could be above what we managed last year, unlikely we will reach it, but it is a cap and may just push those in two minds to buy.

[phantom]

2 hours ago, 1960maaan said:

Sales ploy ?
When selling something tell people there is a shortage / limitations and they will buy . 

The 'cap' could be above what we managed last year, unlikely we will reach it, but it is a cap and may just push those in two minds to buy.

I must admit that was my initial thought

[richwwtk]

9 hours ago, Sir Geoff said:

Whichever, its still a gamble vs guaranteed income.

I do think you get a pretty high PotD for most matches anyway, even the last day of the season with barely any away fans was 22,000+ so 7,000 or so PotD.

You also need to make sure that ST holders + Memberships doesn't outstrip capacity by very much otherwise you are going to have an awful lot of miffed members should we have a big game.

[1960maaan]

18 minutes ago, richwwtk said:

I do think you get a pretty high PotD for most matches anyway, even the last day of the season with barely any away fans was 22,000+ so 7,000 or so PotD.

You also need to make sure that ST holders + Memberships doesn't outstrip capacity by very much otherwise you are going to have an awful lot of miffed members should we have a big game.

I don't think you can work on STH + Membership = Capacity.  
Miffed members comes with the territory . My mate ( god help us) is an Arsenal fan, a member , and goes into a ballot for tickets , membership at a sell out stadium just means a chance for tickets nothing more . 

If we sell out more games people will get tickets earlier , if members find it harder to get tickets they may move to ST's , we sell out of ST's ( my guess for EFL is about 18,000 ) then there will be more chance of selling out every week with PotD . That is what the Club would like I would imagine .