AshtonGreat Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Just now, One Team said: Yes I think so, compared to what else I see, read and hear. What do you think? I think it's very toxic on here. I've lost count of the threads slagging Manning off - and many of the comments have been personal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 12 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: I think it's very toxic on here. I've lost count of the threads slagging Manning off - and many of the comments have been personal Interesting, how do you perceive it away from OTIB? As I say above, I see it worse away from here but appreciate you will have a different perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 52 minutes ago, Robbored said: Dream on Nogbad. You too, sorry if I woke you from a nap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 12 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: I think it's very toxic on here. I've lost count of the threads slagging Manning off - and many of the comments have been personal I actually think the vast majority of the criticism Manning's received has been focused purely on his competency as a football manager. Granted, there's been a bit more content than necessary about him coming across as "boring", which IMHO isn't a particularly important critereon on which to assess him. It's nowhere near as bad as some of the personal insults thrown at LJ and Pearson though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 25 minutes ago, archie andrews said: Might get a bit of love and pride back.... Blige. That is more than a bit of a stretch Archie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 19 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: I think it's very toxic on here. I've lost count of the threads slagging Manning off - and many of the comments have been personal "Mum, Mum, someone on OTIB just called me a mood hoover and they keep comparing me to an A1 robot Go and tell them off or I won't leave my bedroom again." sobbing 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 9 minutes ago, One Team said: Interesting, how do you perceive it away from OTIB? As I say above, I see it worse away from here but appreciate you will have a different perspective. plus X, Facebook and Instagram are more open platforms, especially X. The comments are directed towards the club not discussion points on a member's forum. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 6 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: "Mum, Mum, someone on OTIB just called me a mood hoover and they keep comparing me to an A1 robot Go and tell them off or I won't leave my bedroom again." sobbing Why would we insult the robot ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 2 hours ago, Bris Red said: This for me unfortunately sounds the most plausible way that i can see it going. We have seen them double down before and blindly just think that throwing money at it will help the situation, rarely does in football. The only other way i feel the trigger could be pulled is if we get an absolute thumping by somebody especially if it's at home. Without ever wanting to see City get beat if Leicester pumping us on Friday is the catalyst to make SL act then i wouldn't be against it - as horrendous as that is to admitt.. and if leicester start a rout with nige on sky, i will cheer them on for more. the humiliation those 3 would suffer would be priceless 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 3 minutes ago, redsquirrel said: and if leicester start a rout with nige on sky, i will cheer them on for more. the humiliation those 3 would suffer would be priceless Eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 2 hours ago, Bris Red said: This for me unfortunately sounds the most plausible way that i can see it going. We have seen them double down before and blindly just think that throwing money at it will help the situation, rarely does in football. The only other way i feel the trigger could be pulled is if we get an absolute thumping by somebody especially if it's at home. Without ever wanting to see City get beat if Leicester pumping us on Friday is the catalyst to make SL act then i wouldn't be against it - as horrendous as that is to admitt.. sorry ashton great, i meant to quote this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonred Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 I think Bernard will be gone when/if we lose our next three games Leicester (H) Plymouth and Sunderland (A) all tough games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) 2 hours ago, Fontaineofallknowledge said: Edited March 18 by Tinmans Love Child 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) Bernard better than r2d2, bernards only half the robot that android is Edited March 18 by redsquirrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 9 minutes ago, redsquirrel said: sorry ashton great, i meant to quote this I just didn't understand the Nige reference 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 I personally think he’s gone if we lose the next 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red panda Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ivorguy said: It is not the losing of games. Rather it is 1. The failure to achieve this season what he was appointed to achieve 2. The hurtling down the league 3. Manning’s inane interviews and blaming the players 4. The way we’ve dropped points with the players half the men they were under Nige 5. The mismanagement during matches 6. The dire no entertainment football Etc etc He simply as many agree well beyond his comfort zone. There is, imo, no chance of him improving at this level, let alone the level we aspire to I'd suggest there are only three reasons - the dire no entertainment football, the dire no entertainment football, and the dire no entertainment football. Plus no discernible grounds for optimism, no evidence of a corner being turned, etc Most of the others are subjective and arguable. For example we haven't really been "hurtling" down the league, and there have been occasions when his subs have scored and/or created goals. And if you want inspiring interviews then let's appoint George Galloway, he'd do less harm here than in the House of Commons! Edited March 18 by red panda Removing duplicates, it's messing with my mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey54 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 hour ago, Nogbad the Bad said: Actually it would be to their credit to say, 'We accept and regret that it simply hasn't worked.' Other Championship clubs have taken decisive action in an attempt to limit damage and get fans back on side. They would have been embarrassed too but they knew it needed to be done and didn't shirk a difficult decision. When something's not working the sooner the situation is rectified the better - in this case for LM too imo. They may well be embarrassed, as they should be, but that embarrassment and discomfort will only increase the longer they leave it. Take the bull by the horns and put everyone out of their misery, no club should settle for the sort of stability LM brings which is rapidly emptying the stands. Correct. It worked OK at Luton last season didn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 3 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said: 11 days til our next game. Absolutely no point in keeping him here and seeing if we can fluke a result against Leicester. It would just be very Bristol City to sack him after losing to Leicester. Just do it now. There would be less disruption doing it now. Season is over for us now so time to look ahead to next season. Get a new guy in and then he's got til the end of the season to analyse the squad and build some momentum going into next season. And what happens if a new man comes in and we lose every remaining game? No doubt you'll be calling for him to go as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 20 minutes ago, westonred said: I think Bernard will be gone when/if we lose our next three games Leicester (H) Plymouth and Sunderland (A) all tough games Plymouth & Sunderland are both in abysmal form, a team doing well they would relish these fixtures.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonred Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 5 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Plymouth & Sunderland are both in abysmal form, a team doing well they would relish these fixtures.. Yes but they will see us a a game they can win and i cant see us getting anything from these games we always bottle games we think are easier 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 22 minutes ago, red panda said: I'd suggest there are only three reasons - the dire no entertainment football, the dire no entertainment football, and the dire no entertainment football. Plus no discernible grounds for optimism, no evidence of a corner being turned, etc Most of the others are subjective and arguable. For example we haven't really been "hurtling" down the league, and there have been occasions when his subs have scored and/or created goals. And if you want inspiring interviews then let's appoint George Galloway, he'd do less harm here than in the House of Commons! TBF Galloway couldn’t be much worse than Manning in terms of points per game in the last 6 games! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC31 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 3 hours ago, bristol red said: Andy King till end of season… see what he can do with these players. Can people stop stupidly recommending andy King please its ridiculous 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kit Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 minute ago, BCFC31 said: Can people stop stupidly recommending andy King please its ridiculous He's probably not the messiah but its not as ridiculous as sacking Pearson and replacing him with Manning. 7 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfitInMyPocket Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Think we could lose 5-6 of the final 8 and he'll still be here. The fragile egos of the hierarchy are much more important to them than the performance of the club they are custodians and employees of. Only way he goes is if we get smashed to bits in a few home games and it gets super toxic but still I can't see them making a change. They are more likely to double down on it. It's "his club", he'll do what he wants. Fair enough if you think he goes before the seasons out but I think he's getting the nest-egg in the summer and we'll regress again. Level of excitement with the quality of football is on par with SOD. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonred Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 I think the board will see just how many people are not renewing their season tickets by mid April and will be forced to make a change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 44 minutes ago, Super said: And what happens if a new man comes in and we lose every remaining game? No doubt you'll be calling for him to go as well. Depends on the remit / expectation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 My only observation is to compare and contrast how recent Head Coaches have been treated. Lee Johnson was kept on despite being Mr Streaky because of his previous relationship with the club and the Lansdowns. That said eventually enough was enough even with him. Dean Holden was appointed after this supposed worldwide search for the best person for the job and lo and behold it was given to the guy who had been the caretaker after the previous sacking. However despite a very promising start, the wheels fell off for Holden, and when results had been poor for some time and relegation was a real risk, he was sacked, even though only months earlier he had been feted as the best thing since sliced bread! As far as Liam Manning is concerned, my observation is that he is on borrowed time. Lansdown Snr will want to see something in the next few games that convinces him that the nest egg is worth sharing with Manning to some degree. The idea of a new young coach “playing the modern progressive way” may have appealed back in October, but if now the likely price tag in purchases and contracts to play that way is high, while in the interim the results are poor and the supporters are up in arms at the “style” of play, plus what it may be doing negatively for Conway’s valuation in the summer transfer window, a different answer may be drawn quite quickly. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) 15 minutes ago, ProfitInMyPocket said: Only way he goes is if we get smashed to bits in a few home games and it gets super toxic but still I can't see them making a change. Well that's what happened when Mclnnes was sacked, during an abysmal 0-4 performance at home against - coincidentally - Leicester the AG crowd turned on the Lansdowns with loads of derogatory chanting against the 'board', and loads of insults being aimed at them for not taking action, they were of course more exposed then at the front of the Williams and some long standing (and long suffering) fans in the Lower Williams were giving them both barrels. McInnes was gone by 6 o'clock. So - Lansdown Season Ticket holders , you know what to do! Edited March 18 by CodeRed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 8 minutes ago, CodeRed said: Well that's what happened when Mclnnes was sacked, during an abysmal 0-4 performance at home against - coincidentally - Leicester the AG crowd turned on the Lansdowns with loads of derogatory chanting against the 'board', and loads of insults being aimed at them for not taking action, they were of course more exposed then at the front of the Williams and some long standing (and long suffering) fans in the Lower Williams were giving them both barrels. McInnes was gone by 6 o'clock. So - Lansdown Season Ticket holders , you know what to do! The Lansdown seems the least likely City stand of all time to begin an insurrection/revolt. *Highest ticket prices. *Kids tickets upstairs *Corporate Areas Etc. Probably more priced out than the Williams a decade ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 hour ago, Super said: And what happens if a new man comes in and we lose every remaining game? No doubt you'll be calling for him to go as well. Not sure unreasonable to call for a manager/coach to go if they’re losing every game. Ferguson was mentioned by someone as starting slowly at Man U, but he had won a European trophy beating Real Madrid, so wasn’t lacking a decent cv to give confidence that things might turn around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 hour ago, Super said: And what happens if a new man comes in and we lose every remaining game? No doubt you'll be calling for him to go as well. If he’s as shite as this one then absolutely, yes. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 2 hours ago, Supersonic Robin said: I actually think the vast majority of the criticism Manning's received has been focused purely on his competency as a football manager. Granted, there's been a bit more content than necessary about him coming across as "boring", which IMHO isn't a particularly important critereon on which to assess him. It's nowhere near as bad as some of the personal insults thrown at LJ and Pearson though Like what? Pearson is treated like a god on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 2 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Like what? Pearson is treated like a god on here Think there were plenty of derogatory comments over his tenure. I won’t bring up one accusation that came up several times. Robot / Boring is no different to Dinosaur is it? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 5 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Like what? Pearson is treated like a god on here This..... 12 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Think there were plenty of derogatory comments over his tenure. I won’t bring up one accusation that came up several times. Robot / Boring is no different to Dinosaur is it? Lots of comments referring to his age - old, dinosaur, etc etc I also recall him being accused of being "boring", "grumpy" and "a bully". Unfortunately, we even had a few unsympathetic comments regarding his health, not to mention the bizarre accusation which Dave has alluded to. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 2 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said: This..... Lots of comments referring to his age - old, dinosaur, etc etc I also recall him being accused of being "boring", "grumpy" and "a bully". Unfortunately, we even had a few unsympathetic comments regarding his health, not to mention the bizarre accusation which Dave has alluded to. Spot on, some very short memories here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 2 minutes ago, One Team said: Spot on, some very short memories here. Can you blame me? At the moment, all you hear is how amazing he was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen hump Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 3 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Can you blame me? At the moment, all you hear is how amazing he was Don’t think I’ve heard anyone say he was amazing’ there’s just a lot of people who understand what a good job he done in a absolute shit storm he came into’ there’s still fans out the who don’t get what a mess we were in. 10 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 minute ago, Glen hump said: Don’t think I’ve heard anyone say he was amazing’ there’s just a lot of people who understand what a good job he done in a absolute shit storm he came into’ there’s still fans out the who don’t get what a mess we were in. This. The nonsense spouted on here, by a few, about ‘cult of Nige’ is ridiculous (sometimes weak attempts at gaslighting). I haven’t seen a single poster imply he was perfect/didn’t make mistakes, just quite a few who can see he did a very decent job through some very difficult circumstances. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 5 minutes ago, The Swan and Cemetery said: This. The nonsense spouted on here, by a few, about ‘cult of Nige’ is ridiculous (sometimes weak attempts at gaslighting). I haven’t seen a single poster imply he was perfect/didn’t make mistakes, just quite a few who can see he did a very decent job through some very difficult circumstances. The bloke seems to be mentioned in almost every post at the moment, and there are people talking about chanting his name at the next home game :laugh: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 4 minutes ago, The Swan and Cemetery said: This. The nonsense spouted on here, by a few, about ‘cult of Nige’ is ridiculous (sometimes weak attempts at gaslighting). I haven’t seen a single poster imply he was perfect/didn’t make mistakes, just quite a few who can see he did a very decent job through some very difficult circumstances. Indeed, there was at least the feeling of an upward momentum, togetherness and identity. Was it rough getting there? Yeah, was the improvement rapid enough? 50/50 on that. It did feel like the pieces were in place, the hard yards completed and then.... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 8 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Can you blame me? At the moment, all you hear is how amazing he was No, that’s just you exaggerating. Most comments are what I would call “respectful”, did a good job type stuff. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 3 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: The bloke seems to be mentioned in almost every post at the moment, and there are people talking about chanting his name at the next home game That chant just makes a very good point to the board and very apt given the Leicester connection. Plus it's natural to compare a very good experienced manager to what appears to be a coaching fraud… 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 3 hours ago, AshtonGreat said: I think it's very toxic on here. I've lost count of the threads slagging Manning off - and many of the comments have been personal Reflects precisely what I see and hear from those around me at Ashton Gate. What do you expect from fans who have been lied to, ignored and shafted? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) 30 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Can you blame me? At the moment, all you hear is how amazing he was 12 minutes ago, Davefevs said: No, that’s just you exaggerating. Most comments are what I would call “respectful”, did a good job type stuff. On This and this. If anything with Liam, myself and many other posters have actively avoided comparing him to Nige, to the point where I’ve written posts and edited them to take out anything that could be seen as a comparative. The reason Liam is getting grief (and it’s not personal abuse it’s down to what he’s saying and doing) is because he’s failing. Badly. And the only people who seem to have brought up Nige to compare against Liam are those who are defending LMs record. Without acknowledging that both started from different bases. However, it is totally fair to bring up Pearson in relation to Tinnion as he would have had input into his dismissal. Omitting NP from that point would be bizarre. (And for avoidance of doubt was Nige doing a fantastic job. No. But He was doing a very good job considering what he started with, the development of young players and the bizarrely club imposed financial constraints. In hindsight the decision to dismiss Nige does seem all the more bizarre but the bigger fault undoubtedly lay in the choice of successor) Edited March 18 by Silvio Dante 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 55 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Like what? Pearson is treated like a god on here That's Lord Pearson to you. Alternatively, give him the respect he deserves and address him as the esteemed and honourable "Sir Nigel". 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 30 minutes ago, Glen hump said: Don’t think I’ve heard anyone say he was amazing’ there’s just a lot of people who understand what a good job he done in a absolute shit storm he came into’ there’s still fans out the who don’t get what a mess we were in. Absolutely staggering this needs to explained (again). ’cult of Nige’ etc absolute horseshit from people who have no actual defence of the current manager. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtongreight Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 37 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Can you blame me? At the moment, all you hear is how amazing he was Yes, you still need to be accurate, it doesn’t help your cause making inaccurate comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrizzleRed Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 38 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Can you blame me? At the moment, all you hear is how amazing he was In comparison to the current chump, he was!!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 18 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: The bloke seems to be mentioned in almost every post at the moment, and there are people talking about chanting his name at the next home game If you're that enamored with Manning, why don't you chant his name at the next game. I'm sure he'd appreciate your vocal support. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 2 minutes ago, bearded_red said: Absolutely staggering this needs to explained (again). ’cult of Nige’ etc absolute horseshit from people who have no actual defence of the current manager. What makes me laugh is this type of argument: ”Nige was shit” ”Manning is doing no worse than Nige” 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street red Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 9 minutes ago, bearded_red said: Absolutely staggering this needs to explained (again). ’cult of Nige’ etc absolute horseshit from people who have no actual defence of the current manager. Do we have a current manager? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 41 minutes ago, Glen hump said: Don’t think I’ve heard anyone say he was amazing’ there’s just a lot of people who understand what a good job he done in a absolute shit storm he came into’ there’s still fans out the who don’t get what a mess we were in. Bang on. He's also proving a pretty tough act to follow. Says a lot. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 minute ago, Street red said: Do we have a current manager? We have a placebo. He’s read a coaching manual and stands in the technical area. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswood Robin Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 2 minutes ago, bearded_red said: We have a placebo. He’s read a coaching manual and stands in the technical area. You're not supposed to tell everyone ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street red Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 4 minutes ago, bearded_red said: We have a placebo. He’s read a coaching manual and stands in the technical area. Exciting stuff hey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fontaineofallknowledge Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 12 minutes ago, Davefevs said: What makes me laugh is this type of argument: ”Nige was shit” ”Manning is doing no worse than Nige” Do you have any stats on our record with and without James? I think he's the main factor as opposed to manager.. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 2 minutes ago, Fontaineofallknowledge said: Do you have any stats on our record with and without James? I think he's the main factor as opposed to manager.. How do you explain the god awful style of football? Is that Matty James' influence? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topper 123 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 What do we do get rid now bring in **** knows who or give manning summer hope he gets a budget bigger than league 1 players as we seem to be fast ending up a league 1 team and group the squad together singing from same Hyme sheet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey54 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 6 hours ago, Curr Avon said: I fully appreciate your right to comment, but I've been in your position plenty of times with previous managers. The anger consumes you eventually, and becomes depressing. You're entitled to tell me to do one, but I just wanted to post this for you and others. Respectfully yours, Mark Tovey It's the hope that kills.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 8 minutes ago, Topper 123 said: What do we do get rid now bring in **** knows who or give manning summer hope he gets a budget bigger than league 1 players as we seem to be fast ending up a league 1 team and group the squad together singing from same Hyme sheet ? We were a sound and solid base of a Championship side under NP. Seems a reconfiguration of expectation.. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveInSA Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Unless something really, really bad happens between now and the end of the season I can’t see him going. At the same time, I can’t see him getting more than £6million to spend (purely a guesstimate by me) - unless we sell. Given that Conway is most definitely leaving, I suspect Sykes and Pring we’ll get offers for, I can see us letting Manning have about £12million to spend in the summer. Which, would be a categorical disaster and put us back five years. We’re Bristol City, it’s what we do. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Contractually and FFP wise speaking there is no need to sell anyone any time soon. We did heavy lifting. We might sell Conway as he is in the last year of his deal but possibly him aside no need. Whether I see Manning as the right man (I don't) or the hierarchy above him as being up to it (I don't) totally different issue but that is where the club appears to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paignton red Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 I hope manning realises he's a dead man walking and is updating his c.v. just in case "I BEAT SOUTHAMPTON". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 5 minutes ago, Fontaineofallknowledge said: Do you have any stats on our record with and without James? I think he's the main factor as opposed to manager.. I’ll provide the stats with no prejudice, you work your angle, that ok? Matty James: Under Pearson: Played: 13 (1170 mins) Pts earned whilst on the pitch: 18 (+5)* Team Goals whilst on the pitch: 15 Team Goals conceded whilst on the pitch: 14 Goals / Assists: 2 / 0 Results without James: P 1 / L1 / Pts 0 Under Fleming: Played: 1 (90 mins) Pts earned whilst on the pitch: 3 (+2)* Team Goals whilst on the pitch: 1 Team Goals conceded whilst on the pitch: 0 Goals / Assists: 0 / 0 Under Manning: Played: 18 (1252 mins) 14 starts / 4 subs / 4 subbed off Pts earned whilst on the pitch: 20 (+2)* Team Goals whilst on the pitch: 16 Team Goals conceded whilst on the pitch: 16 Goals / Assists: 0 / 0 Results without James: P 5 / W 1 / L 4 / Pts 3 +++++ * a formula based on result when entering the pitch and result when exiting, e.g. start game at 0:0, leaves at 1:0, he has effected a change of 1 point (draw) to 3 points (win), therefore he gets +2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 27 minutes ago, Fontaineofallknowledge said: Do you have any stats on our record with and without James? I think he's the main factor as opposed to manager.. Is this the same Matty James who isn’t being offered a new deal in the summer as several on here who are ITK have indicated? So, that’s someone who is vital to us and underpins any success Liam may have being jettisoned. Sounds a great idea. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherrich Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 6 hours ago, harvey54 said: In the hierarchys opinion he is the new guy, he is being given time to look at the squad, he will be allowed to bring in new players and he will get a pre-season and 3 months of next season. And in October when were in a relegation fight and crowds are down to 10-12k it will be the right time to take decisive action and reconsider the new direction that the club want to go in. Welcome to Groundhog Season Bristol City style And the Lansdowns then bring back Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) 2 minutes ago, fisherrich said: And the Lansdowns then bring back Johnson Gary or the one with the record losing streak? Edited March 18 by Mr Popodopolous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Now would make sense. Realistically, I do not think there is any way it will happen before 2 April (the day after Plymouth) and I think it more likely it would be after Sunderland, Blackburn or Huddersfield if we failed to win those games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 hour ago, The Swan and Cemetery said: I haven’t seen a single poster imply he was perfect/didn’t make mistakes, just quite a few who can see he did a very decent job through some very difficult circumstances. He did an excellent job when you consider the shambles he inherited and went about stabilising a sinking ship. On top that he reduced the wage bill, wasn’t given any resources from the sale of Semenyo and Scott - so yeah he worked wonders in his relatively short time at City. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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