Miah Dennehy Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 29 minutes ago, nebristolred said: To be fair I would disagree slightly and say that I can see why people think we could and should do more for St George's Day. In the home nations it's only England and Wales that don't get a bank holiday for their national days (I think), and it would be nice to be able to do something for it. Yes, I'm all up or an extra bank holiday It won't be long before a political party sees that as a vote winner and puts it in their manifesto. However, then we would see one of the real problems with the way society is going. Companies would be allowed to not officially recognise it and it would be of no benefit to their staff whatsover, a common practice in nursing care which my wife works in . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cloud Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 43 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said: They changed the colour on the Saltire on a kit a while back, no one said a dicky bird. Do you honestly think this an 'attempt to wipe out everything English' . Does that not sound a wee bit OTT when you read it back to yourself? I don't see anything wrong with having pride about where you come from, but to hinge all that on a flag? I really, really don't get it. Speaking specifically about Englishness, every year- I've seen once already this year- social media will carry a lot of posts about St Georges day, how everyone else celebrates theirs, but we aren't 'allowed' to, like and share etc etc.it absolutely baffles me, who is stopping anyone celebrating it, and do the Scottish and Welsh really celebrate theirs that much? I,ve been in Scotland on numerous St Andrews days and apart from a view 'St Andrews day special offers' things in shops, absolutely nothing else is going on. I think many patriotic Englishmen have been well and truly conned and whipped into a frenzy by horribly skewed media. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip Broadwalk Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 1 hour ago, Miah Dennehy said: But he wasn't mocking that was he? Certainly not how I read it. he was and proper blokes raised two grand for that flag and more later to repair it not that this poster would remember it because he was a nipper when it was done. Good to see it still surfing recently. 1 hour ago, Miah Dennehy said: But he wasn't mocking that was he? Certainly not how I read it. he was and proper blokes raised two grand for that flag and more later to repair it not that this poster would remember it because he was a nipper when it was done. Good to see it still surfing recently. 1 hour ago, Miah Dennehy said: But he wasn't mocking that was he? Certainly not how I read it. he was and proper blokes raised two grand for that flag and more later to repair it not that this poster would remember it because he was a nipper when it was done. Good to see it still surfing recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 13 hours ago, Three Lions said: He doesnt know why England fans carry St Georges and thinks its recent!!! It IS recent. Always used to be the union flag. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 1 hour ago, Red Cloud said: I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then Yes, but I hope not fall out. I think what people on my side of the fence need to recognise is that a substantial amount of people in this country do have- albeit I believe unfounded- fears that they are being demonised within their own country. Politicians need to recognise that WITHOUT just shit stirring and telling some blatant porky pies. Hopefully there is a leader out there who can unite an increasingly divided society. Sadly , I don't see one at the moment. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 A positive thing being done with the kit in the next match, hopefully something everyone can get behind! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 17 hours ago, Three Lions said: That is a St George bought by fans of BCFC including Scooter RIP who did a great deal of the fundraising. Not something to laugh at. Well firstly, I'll say no disrespect towards the origins of the flag was intended, although I think you're bwrong to suggest anyone was laughing at the source of the flag. But quite obviously as Rich says: 16 hours ago, richwwtk said: It was @Cowshed and his 'defacing flags is illegal' that was being laughed at, not the flag It was Cowshed posting one minute that "defacing flags is illegal" then posting his delight at a customised England flag 2 posts later that was amusing. The complete hypocrisy of "you cant touch our flags unless it's something I approve of on the flag" 16 hours ago, Three Lions said: Read it again and that St George flag and St Georges are part of our footballing culture and traditions something you our culture warrior mate to laugh at and look down but important to many. Read what again? Cowshed didn't say any of that? 3 posts: 1. "Defacing flags is illegal" 2. "Yes defacing a flag can be a hate crime." 3. Post saying "lovely" with a picture of a flag that has writing on it, which some may describe as defaced. No post about culture or tradition there at the point I responded. For what it's worth, I love seeing all the England flags especially at games and tournaments and I'll have mine in Germany in the summer. I just think people are taking a slight change to one aspect of our flag applied on a shirt way too far - even though I agree it looks a bit shit, would be better without a cross at all on the collar IMO. As for culture warrior, you're looking at the wrong people there... 14 hours ago, Red Cloud said: fair enough but for those of us who do, there's no way any other country would be expected to just accept this! I'm very proud to be English and see this as yet another attempt to wipe out everything English Like I said, can you imagine what would happen if the Palestinian Flag had its colours changed? or the Saltire going pink or the Welsh Flag ditching the Dragon Other countries have, including your example of Scotland. They've had a purple flag, a yellow cross and other manipulations of their flag on their shirts. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip Broadwalk Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 (edited) 5 hours ago, SecretSam said: It IS recent. Always used to be the union flag. George the forty foot St George being bought twenty odd years ago also is not recent and Bristol City lads with St Georges at Italia 90 thirty odd years ago aint recent either this is a long standing tradition that is still going on with our kids carrying it on. Edited March 25 by Three Lions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 4 hours ago, Miah Dennehy said: Hopefully there is a leader out there who can unite an increasingly divided society. Sadly , I don't see one at the moment. Sadly the constant use of sport to engineer division between the four home "nations" hardly moves the UK towards unity does it. **** devolution; rule Britannia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 5 hours ago, Three Lions said: he was and proper blokes raised two grand for that flag and more later to repair it not that this poster would remember it because he was a nipper when it was done. Good to see it still surfing recently. Is it wrong to be wondering what on earth you could be meaning when you say 'proper blokes'? Is it a badge of pride that no women were involved in the fundraising (not even ones pretending to be blokes)? Or is there some kind of definition of bloke that only applies to people raising money to buy a flag? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 2 minutes ago, richwwtk said: Is it wrong to be wondering what on earth you could be meaning when you say 'proper blokes'? Is it a badge of pride that no women were involved in the fundraising (not even ones pretending to be blokes)? Or is there some kind of definition of bloke that only applies to people raising money to buy a flag? Well it's hardly going to be a badge of 'Pride' if woman pretending to be blokes were involved is it...Cmon keep up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip Broadwalk Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 1 hour ago, richwwtk said: Is it wrong to be wondering what on earth you could be meaning when you say 'proper blokes'? if you dont know that proper means good great and dont know what a bloke is yes it is. you do though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 8 hours ago, Miah Dennehy said: Yes, I'm all up or an extra bank holiday It won't be long before a political party sees that as a vote winner and puts it in their manifesto. Funnily enough there was some bearded chap who did have it in his manifesto not that long ago, but all the sort of "proper blokes" who define themselves as patriots didn’t vote for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 2 hours ago, Three Lions said: George the forty foot St George being bought twenty odd years ago also is not recent and Bristol City lads with St Georges at Italia 90 thirty odd years ago aint recent either this is a long standing tradition that is still going on with our kids carrying it on. I believe the majority of England flags in '90 were still the union flag, but if you have evidence otherwise...(this is the semi, BTW) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 5 minutes ago, SecretSam said: I believe the majority of England flags in '90 were still the union flag, but if you have evidence otherwise...(this is the semi, BTW) I think Italia 90 was the start of the switch from the Union Flag to St George's. Pretty much complete by Euro 96. Having said that I took a Union Flag to the 2002 WC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 (edited) 31 minutes ago, SecretSam said: I believe the majority of England flags in '90 were still the union flag, but if you have evidence otherwise...(this is the semi, BTW) Have to say, whatever my feelings about the legitimacy of the English football team, there's a damn classy Plantagenet coat of arms on display in this photo. Edited March 25 by ExiledAjax 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigate Red Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Enough about crosses - what about stars ! France, Germany, Italy & Spain all proudly display their world cup winning stars on their shirts but for some reason we camouflage ours so it's not really visible. It seems like we're embarrassed by it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 3 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: Funnily enough there was some bearded chap who did have it in his manifesto not that long ago, but all the sort of "proper blokes" who define themselves as patriots didn’t vote for him. Ha ha yes, I had forgotten that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Utterly spectacular. https://www.theguardian.com/football/picture/2024/mar/26/david-squires-on-england-flag-furore-kit-collar-woke-things-destroying-football 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixtyseconds Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 On 22/03/2024 at 17:17, !james said: I haven't had my full woke bingo card until Sixtyseconds comes on and writes an illiterate sonnet Look I cant be on line for you every day. I have days and weeks off. I know I am in your head every day. I obsess your thoughts. Your pulse races at the thought of me or any mention. You get hot under the collar (Woohoo ..) for me. But i’ve pointed this out. My posting is not a relationship .. Its platonic I’m a family man and one woman man. The woman who give birth. Get off line … Go out more … Meet people … Its for you own good. On 22/03/2024 at 16:13, Cowshed said: Defacing a flag is a hate crime. Can be. Could be cultural appropriation. Bad for one side unless its applied to the other side. Gotta be sus on this one. Considering woke virtuous credentials they wear on hearts sleeves an collars. Anybody asked would they do it to the native Indians? Get all playful with their identities. Go all Jon Lansdown on their flags and symbols. Probs not. There is sketch out there that these Big Corps should do what they want. Its all ok. How much for that and that? Big Corps and rackets eh. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 31 minutes ago, alexukhc said: Seriously? England loo roll? I mean, you're literally wiping your...self with the flag... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 On 25/03/2024 at 13:27, MarcusX said: Well firstly, I'll say no disrespect towards the origins of the flag was intended, although I think you're bwrong to suggest anyone was laughing at the source of the flag. But quite obviously as Rich says: It was Cowshed posting one minute that "defacing flags is illegal" then posting his delight at a customised England flag 2 posts later that was amusing. The complete hypocrisy of "you cant touch our flags unless it's something I approve of on the flag" Read what again? Cowshed didn't say any of that? 3 posts: 1. "Defacing flags is illegal" 2. "Yes defacing a flag can be a hate crime." 3. Post saying "lovely" with a picture of a flag that has writing on it, which some may describe as defaced. No post about culture or tradition there at the point I responded. I posted that defacing a flag can be a hate crime. I also posted this? You ignored the this?. Could this, an American sportswear brand rebranding of our the St George be perceived as insensitive? The action has been unpopular. A reaction that should have been predicted. Yes I posted pictures of England and Bristol City fans St George flags because they are significant. The St George is clearly a significant part of fan culture and traditions. They are part of BCFC fan culture. You then posted a laughing emoji regarding the St George that required a lot of effort from City fans to purchase. I with my family and a friends took a small part in that fundraising. Here's that picture again of that flag/surfer twenty years on at recent game. I do think its cool. On 25/03/2024 at 05:57, sticks 1969 said: Malmo 92? Of course it is you stupid bugger. You were metres away from me in the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted March 27 Admin Share Posted March 27 On 25/03/2024 at 19:45, Reigate Red said: Enough about crosses - what about stars ! France, Germany, Italy & Spain all proudly display their world cup winning stars on their shirts but for some reason we camouflage ours so it's not really visible. It seems like we're embarrassed by it. Maybe we're embarrassed it's only 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) and now the French aren't happy with Nike over the size of their cockerel Edited March 27 by E.G.Red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 23 hours ago, SecretSam said: Seriously? England loo roll? I mean, you're literally wiping your...self with the flag... Probably marketed towards the many countries that don't like us very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Cowshed said: I posted that defacing a flag can be a hate crime. I also posted this? You ignored the this?. Could this, an American sportswear brand rebranding of our the St George be perceived as insensitive? The action has been unpopular. A reaction that should have been predicted. Yes I posted pictures of England and Bristol City fans St George flags because they are significant. The St George is clearly a significant part of fan culture and traditions. They are part of BCFC fan culture. You then posted a laughing emoji regarding the St George that required a lot of effort from City fans to purchase. I with my family and a friends took a small part in that fundraising. Here's that picture again of that flag/surfer twenty years on at recent game. I do think its cool. Of course it is you stupid bugger. You were metres away from me in the ground. Sorry, this is probably boring to everyone else but I wont have you or three lions re-write history and twist this into something it isn't. At no point have I laughed at the specific flag or it's background or efforts towards it. It's totally dishonest of both of you to suggest I have, as others have also supported. I'm laughing at the irony of you posting that "defacing a flag is a hate crime" - then 3 posts later posting a photo of, by definition, a defaced flag. The evidence is clear in your history below. No further replies before I responded laughing at the irony of your two posts. I don't know what your ramble at the start of today's post is, but no I cannot see anywhere that you've said those things in this thread. So once again, no disrespect intended to anyone involved in producing that flag, clearly being deceitful to suggest otherwise. Thankfully several people had already seen through it and replied before I could. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) Edited March 27 by southside 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54-46 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 2 hours ago, E.G.Red said: and now the French aren't happy with Nike over the size of their cockerel Join the queue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 3 hours ago, Cowshed said: I posted that defacing a flag can be a hate crime. There is no case law where defacing a flag is a hate crime in the UK. However, under certain circumstances, say burning a union flag on the Cenotaph, such actions could be considered incitement to a breach of the peace and therefore be illegal. Putting different colours on a football shirt would not fall under this definition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Hampton Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) On 22/03/2024 at 09:32, ChippenhamRed said: Nothing to do with “inclusion”. Just an artistic version to align with the design and colour palette on the shirt. Linking it to “inclusion” is just your own projection. Tbf “inclusive “ was Nike’s word not RobboRed’s so clearly not RR’s own projection. Edited March 27 by JP Hampton 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Hampton Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 On 22/03/2024 at 09:37, SecretSam said: Don't you think those people you think are being "included" (who are they, BTW?) might also be proud to be English? On that premise then every flag of every nation, should be changing to include all those who consider themselves of that Country, but aren’t in fact a native or are a different colour. I don’t understand why a flag is “exclusive” as opposed to “inclusive”? Otherwise you have to apply that at all nations’ flags don’t you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Hampton Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 FWIW my take on it is this, I probably wouldn’t have batted an eyelid about this, just wouldn’t seem to be worth caring about, but I think I understand why people do care. Ten or more years ago people wouldn’t really have been that bothered with a few exceptions. I think the problem now is that people are seeing changes happen in this Country, which genuinely makes them feel they have little control over things, things which used to be just plain common sense are now being challenged and changed. There’s been incredible changes to institutions in this country, a Police Force who are supposed to be Policing by Consent and who are not supposed to show any affiliation to any particular side, can now be seen doing just that. I could go on. It’s telling that it’sNike that people are getting up in arms about, because to many they represent unwanted change, many Companies have become political and I believe that’s what people oppose. If you like it’s another straw on the camels back of unwanted change. For want of a better word they’re actually getting “triggered” by what to others may be a seemingly small thing, but it’s really, just another straw. It’s strange that in a climate where identity politics is the rallying call of companies like Nike, that they’d see no problem in taking what some people consider part of their identity, (which is common the world over, a flag) and change it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Hampton Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 On 22/03/2024 at 12:49, Tim Monaghan said: St George wasn't even English And Andrew wasn’t Scottish and Patrick wasn’t born in Ireland and it’s the same for many other Countries too, what’s your point? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Hampton Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 22 minutes ago, Tim Monaghan said: No point, Brother. Sick of having arguments with keyboard warriors on here, so take or leave the comment buddy, and make of it what you like. Wow, simply a genuine question. Sounds like if you’re sick of it, it might be good to take your own advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 4 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: There is no case law where defacing a flag is a hate crime in the UK. However, under certain circumstances, say burning a union flag on the Cenotaph, such actions could be considered incitement to a breach of the peace and therefore be illegal. Putting different colours on a football shirt would not fall under this definition. You have just agreed with me. I didn't state defacing a flag is a hate crime, I stated it can be because while we do not have not law that make desecrating a flag a crime, we have law that prohibit hostility aimed towards groups. Hence in my post I added this ? No this does not fall under the above. Was it insulting? Yes. This act caused insult. A response that was predictable. What was the point of Nike and the FA knowingly doing something that they must have known would have not been wildly welcomed? I don't see the point. 6 hours ago, MarcusX said: Sorry, this is probably boring to everyone else but I wont have you or three lions re-write history and twist this into something it isn't. At no point have I laughed at the specific flag or it's background or efforts towards it. It's totally dishonest of both of you to suggest I have, as others have also supported. On 23/03/2024 at 10:43, MarcusX said: Even @Cowshedwading in talking about defacing flags, then shared a defaced flag celebrating it Your post featuring a laughing emoji about this flag. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigate Red Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 7 hours ago, Ian M said: Maybe we're embarrassed it's only 1? Probably but we shouldn't be - at least we have won it. Albeit increasingly some time ago. Uruguay last won it in 1950 but are not shy about stars. They even include four stars on their shirts despite only having won the world cup twice! Maybe we should follow their example and just add a few Footnote: The other two Uruguayan stars are supposed to be for winning the Olympics before the world cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Just now, Cowshed said: You have just agreed with me. I didn't state defacing a flag is a hate crime, I stated it can be because while we do not have not law that make desecrating a flag a crime, we have law that prohibit hostility aimed towards groups. Hence in my post I added this ? No this does not fall under the above. Was it insulting? Yes. This act caused insult. A response that was predictable. Well spotted. I did agree with you, once you changed your posts from saying "flag defacement is a hate crime" to "flag defacement can be a hate crime". But as for the second bit of your response, the law isn't there to protect the delicate sensibilities of snowflakes hurt because a near invisible and non-traditional feature of one particular football kit has changed colour. It not only is not near the threshold of behaviour likely to cause a breach of the peace, it isn't in the same county, the same country or even the same frigging continent as that threshold. Not sure how a tribute to the training colours of the England 1966 kit can be insulting, but then I'm not a led-by-the-nose to be offended by whatever culture war bullshit is being peddled by right-wing media sort of guy. I don't give a shit if Nike keep it, change it back, or drop the flag altogether in a tribute to all England kits pre-2002. I'm more offended by the shirt's price and I don't generally like Nike sportswear anyway. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StGeorge Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Reigate Red said: Footnote: The other two Uruguayan stars are supposed to be for winning the Olympics before the world cup. I did wonder, thanks. useful post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 18 hours ago, 42nite said: Probably marketed towards the many countries that don't like us very much. That's a big, big market... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 12 hours ago, Cowshed said: You have just agreed with me. I didn't state defacing a flag is a hate crime, I stated it can be because while we do not have not law that make desecrating a flag a crime, we have law that prohibit hostility aimed towards groups. Hence in my post I added this ? No this does not fall under the above. Was it insulting? Yes. This act caused insult. A response that was predictable. What was the point of Nike and the FA knowingly doing something that they must have known would have not been wildly welcomed? I don't see the point. Your post featuring a laughing emoji about this flag. Your either being thick or deliberately misleading. I can't decide which but I'm sure most reasonable people see straight through it and I won't be entertaining you further on this. Very obvious to most I was laughing at you and your posts on this subject - not the flag itself (or background to it that wasn't even posted). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Hampton Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 6 hours ago, SecretSam said: That's a big, big market... I think you’ve just got the nail on the head, as to why some people are taking offence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 On 27/03/2024 at 11:55, Cowshed said: I posted that defacing a flag can be a hate crime. 'Defacing' would mean that the original would be still there, but then written on/marked, etc. What Nike did was recolour the same flag shape. A shape of flag that is used by a number of countries. That's not defacing it, it's recolouring it. Defacing it would have been to write "England were poor against Brazil" across the flag. #PedanticRantOver 12 minutes ago, JP Hampton said: I think you’ve just got the nail on the head, as to why some people are taking offence. I was saying that the number of people who hate England (across the world) is pretty big. I mean, our history is a little...checkered... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilRascal Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Is this still a thing? Patriotic football fans the length and breadth of England would never alter flag colours, would they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Hampton Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 15 minutes ago, SecretSam said: 'Defacing' would mean that the original would be still there, but then written on/marked, etc. What Nike did was recolour the same flag shape. A shape of flag that is used by a number of countries. That's not defacing it, it's recolouring it. Defacing it would have been to write "England were poor against Brazil" across the flag. #PedanticRantOver I was saying that the number of people who hate England (across the world) is pretty big. I mean, our history is a little...checkered... Whose isn’t? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathandao Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I am looking to buy the new England away shirt but I'm not going to spend £85. I looked through this thread and saw DHGate recommended but whenever I go on their site, it is completely empty, and all of the ebay listings linked have been taken down. Does anyone have any up to date suggestions or links? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 9 minutes ago, Nathandao said: Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I am looking to buy the new England away shirt but I'm not going to spend £85. I looked through this thread and saw DHGate recommended but whenever I go on their site, it is completely empty, and all of the ebay listings linked have been taken down. Does anyone have any up to date suggestions or links? Thanks I'll DM you a link to the seller I used, got both shirts and they are very good quality. Literally can't tell them apart from the real ones On a separate note related to the flag, I notice that the Olympic jerseys got criticised for being "boring" and scared to upset people... can't win can they 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmpowell Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 13 minutes ago, Nathandao said: Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I am looking to buy the new England away shirt but I'm not going to spend £85. I looked through this thread and saw DHGate recommended but whenever I go on their site, it is completely empty, and all of the ebay listings linked have been taken down. Does anyone have any up to date suggestions or links? Thanks https://www.kitgg6.com/Search-england+25/list-r1.html Due to our clubs inept stocking through the season, I used this site to get my kids City shirts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 16 minutes ago, MarcusX said: I'll DM you a link to the seller I used, got both shirts and they are very good quality. Literally can't tell them apart from the real ones On a separate note related to the flag, I notice that the Olympic jerseys got criticised for being "boring" and scared to upset people... can't win can they Any chance you could provide me the link please mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 1 hour ago, kmpowell said: https://www.kitgg6.com/Search-england+25/list-r1.html Due to our clubs inept stocking through the season, I used this site to get my kids City shirts. What’s the quality like KM? £12 is ridiculous! I’m usually dead against copies - I just like the real deal. Completely get why people buy copies now though. Especially when they are a) £85 for an England shirt or b) the original (hi ONeills ) is such shite quality that the copy is probably better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmpowell Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 5 minutes ago, lenred said: What’s the quality like KM? £12 is ridiculous! I’m usually dead against copies - I just like the real deal. Completely get why people buy copies now though. Especially when they are a) £85 for an England shirt or b) the original (hi ONeills ) is such shite quality that the copy is probably better! I'm also normally against buying copies/replicas of things, but the club left me no other option if I wanted to buy my kids the black and pink shirts. Shirts, shorts, name & number printing, was a total of £28.30 for both. Quality was/is more than fine for the kids. Fresh out of the packet that morning (hence the creases on my daughters sleeves/shorts)... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 35 minutes ago, kmpowell said: Shirts, shorts, name & number printing, was a total of £28.30 for both Insane pricing. Absolutely don’t blame you at that cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 https://www.soccer03.store/?parent_user_id=16713849&utm_source=sns_share&utm_medium=share_url&gad_source=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 11 minutes ago, petehinton said: https://www.soccer03.store/?parent_user_id=16713849&utm_source=sns_share&utm_medium=share_url&gad_source=1 Have you used them Pete? Any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 25 minutes ago, lenred said: Have you used them Pete? Any good? Yeah England shirts are basically identical to ones sold in sports direct 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 5 minutes ago, petehinton said: Yeah England shirts are basically identical to ones sold in sports direct Thank you. And sizing wise would you go up a size? Sorry for all the Qs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 47 minutes ago, petehinton said: https://www.soccer03.store/?parent_user_id=16713849&utm_source=sns_share&utm_medium=share_url&gad_source=1 Please stop sharing my go to site for kits, I don't want this website being taken down, it needs to remain a secret 36 minutes ago, lenred said: Have you used them Pete? Any good? I can vouch for him and say, the quality is the exact same as what you'd buy in Sports Direct imo from what I've bought from it. Just go a size or two up than your usual. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 (edited) 9 minutes ago, 2015 said: Please stop sharing my go to site for kits, I don't want this website being taken down, it needs to remain a secret I can vouch for him and say, the quality is the exact same as what you'd buy in Sports Direct imo from what I've bought from it. Just go a size or two up than your usual. Cheers! Ps I’ll keep schtum on it from now on Edited May 22 by lenred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 3 hours ago, frenchred said: Any chance you could provide me the link please mate I didnt know if it was ok to share, but others have shared links. i used this: https://www.dhgate.com/product/2023-2024-afc-richmond-soccer-jerseys-kids/860299516.html Note that the pics dont include logos and badges etc, guessing copyright rules?! but they do come as you'd expect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 1 hour ago, petehinton said: https://www.soccer03.store/?parent_user_id=16713849&utm_source=sns_share&utm_medium=share_url&gad_source=1 This site's incredible, all those retro shirts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 20 minutes ago, MarcusX said: I didnt know if it was ok to share, but others have shared links. i used this: https://www.dhgate.com/product/2023-2024-afc-richmond-soccer-jerseys-kids/860299516.html Note that the pics dont include logos and badges etc, guessing copyright rules?! but they do come as you'd expect Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 1 hour ago, lenred said: Have you used them Pete? Any good? I've just ordered a 98 shirt to replace my original that got lost! Price was £17 with postage but they took £19 from my bank for some reason, will see what happens next! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Is the 4XL an american size? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 2 hours ago, petehinton said: https://www.soccer03.store/?parent_user_id=16713849&utm_source=sns_share&utm_medium=share_url&gad_source=1 Just come back from Thailand where these are all made I think. Got the Ajax special edition three little birds shirt for a tenner and it looks the dogs bollox! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 52 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: I've just ordered a 98 shirt to replace my original that got lost! Price was £17 with postage but they took £19 from my bank for some reason, will see what happens next! There is some blurb on the order confirmation that the price may change slightly. I ordered the ‘98 as well and the ‘86 away. Charged me about £4 more than it said. Quite a difference % wise but still peanuts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 1 hour ago, lenred said: There is some blurb on the order confirmation that the price may change slightly. I ordered the ‘98 as well and the ‘86 away. Charged me about £4 more than it said. Quite a difference % wise but still peanuts! Yeh absolutely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 2 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: Just come back from Thailand where these are all made I think. Got the Ajax special edition three little birds shirt for a tenner and it looks the dogs bollox! I think they import them from China. I’ve bought a couple myself before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 I've got the England 82 in red. Proper lush and good quality. Definitely go at least a size or maybe two sizes bigger than you would buy in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 1 hour ago, supercidered said: I've got the England 82 in red. Proper lush and good quality. Definitely go at least a size or maybe two sizes bigger than you would buy in the UK. Bought that last year. Got the 16 on the back just because Bryan Robson was my hero growing up. My fav England kit. Trying to find an England euro 88 shirt but couldnt see one on that site. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 (edited) https://www.soccer04.shop/ New weblink They change it every now and again. Can’t guess why Most my son’s kits are from there. Also good for NBA jerseys Edited May 22 by Pickle Rick 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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