Manning in

[S_C]

13 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Because you talk about one game pro or con Manning posts because of a result.  Is that not what you meant?

we did go toe to toe, we did more than that imho.

Apologies, perhaps I’m being dense.

I’m on and off OTIB, but you seem to be of the opinion that Manning isn’t the guy/up to the job etc. For what it’s worth, from what we’ve seen, I don’t disagree with that. I’m a bit more forgiving of his circumstances, I’d suggest, but I’m certainly in the camp that his time here has been underwhelming and he/we need to improve. But when we beat an auto-promotion team, and whilst they had their chances I don’t think the result was unfair, to see the wolves at the door fluttering begrudging praise whilst waiting for the next loss is a bit tiresome.

Where did I say, sorry, that people should form their opinions on one game?

[TDarwall]

4 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

 

City played well enough no doubt. However OLeary who was easily man of the match papered over the cracks. 

I think that's a bit disingenuous. We were never going to prevent then getting any chances as they're too good for that. However, we made decent chances ourselves & were denied a pen when TC was held back.  Max played very well, but it was a good overall performance with no real weak links.

[Show Me The Money!]

2 hours ago, Bazooka Joe said:

Gutted !

Spent a fortune on that damned Southampton memorabilia.

Now I have to buy the bloody Leicester memorabilia.

It's a money-making racket.

I’m hoping there will be some Rotherham memorabilia so I’m holding on got that. 

[bcfcnick]

We just need to work out how to beat the likes of Rotherham, get promoted next season and then, almost inevitably, we'll qualify for Europe based on this season's starts against Premier teams and teams with parachute payments destined to return to the Premier League.  It's the equivalent of 11 points out of 14 v West Ham, Forest x 2, Southampton and Leicester.   We probably should have won against Ipswich as well but they are mainly a hard-working team with a good manager and don't qualify as Premier League standard although the real reason is it would ruin the stats!

[Robbored]

One swallow doesn’t make a summer.

[REDOXO]

12 minutes ago, TDarwall said:

I think that's a bit disingenuous. We were never going to prevent then getting any chances as they're too good for that. However, we made decent chances ourselves & were denied a pen when TC was held back.  Max played very well, but it was a good overall performance with no real weak links.

Gary Owers made his opinion very clear who he thought was MotM post game on radio Brizz. Take a listen. 

[Davefevs]

14 minutes ago, S_C said:

Apologies, perhaps I’m being dense.

I’m on and off OTIB, but you seem to be of the opinion that Manning isn’t the guy/up to the job etc. For what it’s worth, from what we’ve seen, I don’t disagree with that. I’m a bit more forgiving of his circumstances, I’d suggest, but I’m certainly in the camp that his time here has been underwhelming and he/we need to improve. But when we beat an auto-promotion team, and whilst they had their chances I don’t think the result was unfair, to see the wolves at the door fluttering begrudging praise whilst waiting for the next loss is a bit tiresome.

Where did I say, sorry, that people should form their opinions on one game?

Nah, probably me reading it wrong.

[AppyDAZE]

6 minutes ago, Robbored said:

One swallow doesn’t make a summer.

No, but it does mean it’s springtime.

[harvey54]

I also have to say that Leicester were there for the taking today. Yes, they had chances but so did we. Max kept us in the game a couple of times but on the whole, we played well 

[TDarwall]

4 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

Gary Owers made his opinion very clear who he thought was MotM post game on radio Brizz. Take a listen. 

I don't need to listen to Gary Owers (much as I like him), I was there & witnessed it with my own eyes. Max was my MoM, but everyone played well. Their bench was worth > £70m, we were never going to prevent them making chances (today was the 1st time they've failed to score since Nov). We played well today & could/should have had a pen before any of their chances.  It was a good game, you couldn't argue against a draw but I don't consider us lucky to have won.

[REDOXO]

Just now, TDarwall said:

I don't need to listen to Gary Owers (much as I like him), I was there & witnessed it with my own eyes. Max was my MoM, but everyone played well. Their bench was worth > £70m, we were never going to prevent them making chances (today was the 1st time they've failed to score since Nov). We played well today & could/should have had a pen before any of their chances.  It was a good game, you couldn't argue against a draw but I don't consider us lucky to have won.

Maybe you don’t listen to Owers. However you said my comment was disingenuous! Just pointing out the ex pros opinion was the same as mine. 

[bcfcredandwhite]

I’ve said before on here and on other forums that IMHO Liam deserves to be given a chance to start next season with his players. 
Whether they will really be HIS players, or players he’s been told to work with by the COO (possibly like LJ was??) is something I don’t know, but he should be allowed to start the season at least. 
We seem to play better against better opponents - today’s result was fantastic. Yes Vardy wasted 2 great chances, but we had 2 strong penalty shouts too and their keeper made a great double save. 
Can we keep the same self-belief going into the Plymouth game? That’s the key. 
Manning in for me - for now. As with all clubs and managers there comes a time when a managers job becomes untenable, but we have not reached that point imho. 
I’d stick with him, rather that another gamble on yet another JL/BT unknown appointment. 

[TDarwall]

1 minute ago, REDOXO said:

Maybe you don’t listen to Owers. However you said my comment was disingenuous! Just pointing out the ex pros opinion was the same as mine. 

If he said Liam Manning was the right man for the job & should be given time & money would you agree (him being an ex pro)?

I'd be surprised if many City fans went home today thinking Max papered over the cracks. 

[milo1111]

3 hours ago, gibbo7 said:

Much better today.  Now twine is back we will be better against teams in a low block.  The team set out how they were today with 2 floating 10’s, Pring going down the outside and Roberts joining in with confidence and quality from defence will help us break these teams down.  Judge Liam in these last 7 games when he has the players available that he’s wanted and brought in.  Twine was his ace in the pack.  Let Liam prove he has what it takes when he has the one player we all know the squad needed and has been unfortunately unavailable. Next season add a real championship quality all round physical striker I think he will do well.  

I think that’s fair. Today was good let’s see how we go from here then against sides that sit in. 

[The Original OTIB]

1 hour ago, The Original OTIB said:

Good win both, but Saints and Leicester both in shaky form when visiting. Played both at a good time.

Ok, "form" poor choice of word re: Saints. Hindsight argument given that they lost 2 of next 3 in the league, but had been very, very open in recent games, noted by fans, and made 4 changes for the game, perhaps with an eye on the friday fixture with WBA. Notion was that run had to end and coming fixtures likely given how set up.

Edited March 29 by The Original OTIB

[ZumerZetSmithy]

Cameras is all I am saying 

[Numero Uno]

8 minutes ago, TDarwall said:

I don't need to listen to Gary Owers (much as I like him), I was there & witnessed it with my own eyes. Max was my MoM, but everyone played well. Their bench was worth > £70m, we were never going to prevent them making chances (today was the 1st time they've failed to score since Nov). We played well today & could/should have had a pen before any of their chances.  It was a good game, you couldn't argue against a draw but I don't consider us lucky to have won.

The way I look at it is we played as well as we can given the players we’ve got against a team with £40m players. For us to beat Leicester it’s a given that Max needed to be on point and he was. To people saying “lucky” it’s his job to give us a 9/10 every now and again!!

If Liam could deliver “as well as we can” on a more regular basis we’ll all be happier.

[Robbored]

3 minutes ago, TDarwall said:

I'd be surprised if many City fans went home today thinking Max papered over the cracks. 

I left AG surprised at how many chances  Leicester wasted, some down to Max but not all. Vardy missed at least three opportunities that in his prime would have buried but hey ho all teams miss chances…….

[Numero Uno]

Just now, Robbored said:

I left AG surprised at how many chances  Leicester wasted, some down to Max but not all. Vardy missed at least three opportunities that in his prime would have buried but hey ho all teams miss chances…….

I left AG not giving a left bollock about Leicester for the simple reason it was so refreshing to watch us play some nice football at times and have a go.

[38MC]

What’s probably getting lost in the maelstrom of opinions, and I say this as someone very vocally Manning out so probably a bit of praise hunting here, look we’re all willing to give praise and credit where it’s due. 

now I’ll hunt some face palms but the Pearson out brigade weren’t quite so generous - Ian looking at you 

Edited March 29 by 38MC

[Robbored]

Another three points at Home Park will virtually guarantee that Manning will be City's manager next campaign.

[StGeorge]

4 hours ago, ExiledAjax said:

melange

I agree with post, but outstanding vocab sir. 

[RUSSEL85]

1 hour ago, Robbored said:

One swallow doesn’t make a summer.

It will make my bloody summer!

[Street red]

46 minutes ago, TDarwall said:

If he said Liam Manning was the right man for the job & should be given time & money would you agree (him being an ex pro)?

I'd be surprised if many City fans went home today thinking Max papered over the cracks. 

That win does paper over the cracks what's changed since last week what's changed in the last 20 years absolutely nothing,It's the same old same old everyone gets excited over odd games it's about the season not beating tops teams now and then and getting nowhere.

Edited March 29 by Street red

[mozo]

1 hour ago, Robbored said:

One swallow doesn’t make a summer.

Well at least if we add the FA Cup games and the Southampton and Watford wins we can say 5/6 swallows. 

Edited March 29 by mozo

[Chairman Mao]

Just give him a summer. This endless desire to chop and change benefits no one. He's been here 5 minutes. At one stage, wasn't it against West Brom few seasons back near to Christmas, the fans were baying for Pearsons head. Its getting boring now. 

Edited March 29 by Chairman Mao

[The Journalist]

If we play with that intensity and aggression every game Liam Manning won’t have any problems.

But we haven’t been. We’ve been powderpuff, we’ve been negative and we’ve sat off teams. Often poor teams and in front of our own fans. And our level of intensity and aggression has nothing to do with the opposition, that’s down to us.

We won’t always get it right and that’s fine. But he has to learn from today. That is on him.

[steviestevieneville]

8 minutes ago, Chairman Mao said:

Just give him a summer. This endless desire to chop and change benefits no one. He's been here 5 minutes. At one stage, wasn't it against West Brom few seasons back near to Christmas, the fans were baying for Pearsons head. Its getting boring now. 

To be fair. The vast majority would have been happy for nige to get another three years to keep building , so I don’t think fans in general want to chop & change . It’s good to have stability. Unfortunately for manning , he’s come to a club with a largely pissed off fanbase & he’s hardly hit the ground running. Plus the ridiculous statements from the club did nothing but heap undue pressure on him. 

[fishy]

One swallow does not a summer make

[Super]

1 hour ago, ZumerZetSmithy said:

Cameras is all I am saying 

Yep great against Leeds...

[BS3 Ark at Ee]

Let’s see how Argyle on Monday goes……

[watkins1983]

Great win today and a superb performance from the lads. Vardy off day not to bury some of those chances he would normally slot home every game, max superb in the sticks also.

It’s another prime example of playing under manning. Great against teams who come at us and we can play counter football as has shown this season. We never had that ability before he came against the big teams in the league I don’t think?
At the same time we can’t break teams down who sit deep under mannings style. So frustrating. 

[AppyDAZE]

7 minutes ago, fishy said:

One swallow does not a summer make

That’s easy for Yoda say.

[mozo]

2 minutes ago, watkins1983 said:

Great win today and a superb performance from the lads. Vardy off day not to bury some of those chances he would normally slot home every game, max superb in the sticks also.

It’s another prime example of playing under manning. Great against teams who come at us and we can play counter football as has shown this season. We never had that ability before he came against the big teams in the league I don’t think?
At the same time we can’t break teams down who sit deep under mannings style. So frustrating. 

Here's a question then, how did Nige's teams do against sides that sit in? Or indeed LJ's?

[Bizyer]

4 hours ago, Bazooka Joe said:

So, a bit short on the back and sides?

Good to see us win otherwise we'd soon be getting a number one all over.

 

Nothing wrong with a Number One all over. I've had one for years - but only to cover up the creeping baldness

[harvey54]

1 hour ago, Robbored said:

Another three points at Home Park will virtually guarantee that Manning will be City's manager next campaign.

I think that after the Swansea result we weren't in serious danger from relegation. Sides lower in the table were playing each other so we were relatively safe. 

I think it needed an embarrassing score to get rid of him and after today's showing I don't think that's going to happen.

The team played well and played for him today. Hopefully, the inconsistencies will not return as players come back from injury. I know we've had 'turning points' before but today felt more like a big plus. 

[Street red]

1 hour ago, Robbored said:

Another three points at Home Park will virtually guarantee that Manning will be City's manager next campaign.

How exciting

[Rossi the Robin]

Most of the good performances would have been the tactics implemented by the previous coaching team - no change was really needed 

[mozo]

1 minute ago, Rossi the Robin said:

Most of the good performances would have been the tactics implemented by the previous coaching team - no change was really needed 

Did Nige play tactics like today or are you just basing it on possession?

[Bizyer]

3 hours ago, Major Isewater said:

 for the most part we’ve not been battered by anyone

Good point Major.  I was only thinking earlier that although the football has been uninspiring at times, when we have lost its generally been by one goal with the odd game by two.  No 5-0 thrashings.

[watkins1983]

5 minutes ago, mozo said:

Here's a question then, how did Nige's teams do against sides that sit in? Or indeed LJ's?

Wouldn’t mind seeing the stats on that.

I think we definitely better under nige against those sides. Grinding out the results.

[REDOXO]

1 hour ago, TDarwall said:

If he said Liam Manning was the right man for the job & should be given time & money would you agree (him being an ex pro)?

I'd be surprised if many City fans went home today thinking Max papered over the cracks. 

Not sure about any of what you are saying. You said disingenuous. I’ve pointed out he said what I said. 
 

 

 

[Bizyer]

2 hours ago, Robbored said:

One swallow doesn’t make a summer.

Just seen loads of them in Spain.....does that mean it's summer?

[WolfOfWestStreet]

Really enjoyed that today which is the first time I'm said that in a while.

Credit where its due, talk of him losing the dressing room is clearly false.

I still want him sacked and replaced with a proper manager for next season. 

[TV Tom]

4 hours ago, The Original OTIB said:

Good win both, but Saints and Leicester both in shaky form when visiting. Played both at a good time.

You are a joker, Southampton we’re on an unbeaten run of 25 games, please give credit where credit is due, I know that’s very difficult for many on here

[mozo]

32 minutes ago, watkins1983 said:

Wouldn’t mind seeing the stats on that.

I think we definitely better under nige against those sides. Grinding out the results.

We won 15 games last season and 9 of our 23 home games.

I had a quick breeze through the results and it's hard to spot a pattern to be honest.

LJ was notoriously streaky of course so not quite about levels.

[Shauntaylor85]

6 hours ago, Curr Avon said:

Despite supposedly losing the dressing room, being out of his depth, and boring I'd say our manager deserves a lot of credit for today's excellent victory against Premier League bound Leicester.

Although I expect several of you to disagree.

 

This place is crazy. One win doesn’t change the fact he has been incredibly poor since being appointed. Today was good and if it carries on then brilliant, but we need consistency and we’ve been here before. Always expected us to win today, we always do in these types of games. 

[bcfcredandwhite]

1 hour ago, mozo said:

Here's a question then, how did Nige's teams do against sides that sit in? Or indeed LJ's?

I don’t think we’ve been able to regularly unlock sides that do that since Cotts - and those were only League 1 sides. 
It’s been our problem for years and through successive regimes. 
Personally, I think you unlock sides like those who ‘park the bus’ by playing ‘route 1’ football - but we haven’t got a big centre forward or a defender who can push forward with the stature of Flint, so there’s no point in trying right now and we continue to try and play ‘through’ them - mostly without success. 

Edited March 29 by bcfcredandwhite
Correct grammar

[The Original OTIB]

18 minutes ago, TV Tom said:

You are a joker, Southampton we’re on an unbeaten run of 25 games, please give credit where credit is due, I know that’s very difficult for many on here

Read qualifications elsewhere re: Saints. Re: results, I have given credit. It isn't difficult at all. Also, why start with an insult?

A modicum of consistency is all many ask.

[downendcity]

55 minutes ago, mozo said:

Did Nige play tactics like today or are you just basing it on possession?

We certainly wouldn't have got the winner today under Nige, as he wouldn't have played Mehmeti!

[harvey54]

3 hours ago, Robbored said:

One swallow doesn’t make a summer.

No, but it makes your Saturday night out 

[Rossi the Robin]

4 minutes ago, downendcity said:

We certainly wouldn't have got the winner today under Nige, as he wouldn't have played Mehmeti!

We will never know, but Nige was notoriously good at holding players back long term and getting the best out of them 

[mozo]

4 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said:

A modicum of consistency is all many ask.

Consistency in performances and results would really help our sanity!

I think the debatable part is whether Manning should be held accountable for that lack of consistency.

Nige was striving for consistency and struggling, not helped by our squad peppered with injuries on a consistent basis. 

An then the players. Is it in Manning's gift to make Mehmeti a consistent performer in the space of a few months? Nige barely played the lad. So many of this squad are still establishing themselves at this level and seem to struggle with their performances; Bell, TGH, Mehmeti, Tanner, McCrorie all spring to mind.

And then the inconsistency of available players, in what has yet again been a season with almost every players having time on the sidelines at some stage.

Some will say that's making excuses for Manning, others will say its context. 

Maybe Manning is the one that is inconsistent and still finding his groove at this level? Entirely possible. 

[exAtyeoMax]

We had a lot of grit and determination in that performance today, faster paced and not the typical LM kind of game. I didn’t see the Soton game so can’t comment how it relates to LC. 
I’m not sure we’re physically able to play at that ferocity every game.

liked Hayden and Cam working together 

[bpexile]

7 hours ago, Bris Red said:

Credit where it is due however i am reserving judgement on Manning untill we see a proper upturn in results and not just another flash in the pan which this result could very well turn out to be again..

Agreed, credit is due but it can't be underestimated the improvement of the team with presence of James back in the side after a spell out, we do perform better with him in, imo.

[Robbored]

I wonder what influence Conway’s assessment of the way and shape that the Foxes play had today?  I intended to notice if he’d make different runs but was too engrossed in the game to really notice.

One thing I did notice was McCrory  hitting the side netting when well placed to pull it back. I can remember at least twice he did that - very frustrating as a second City goal would have killed them off.

[WolfOfWestStreet]

1 hour ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

This place is crazy. One win doesn’t change the fact he has been incredibly poor since being appointed. Today was good and if it carries on then brilliant, but we need consistency and we’ve been here before. Always expected us to win today, we always do in these types of games. 

Yeah the amount of people getting back in to bed again with Manning is wild to me. 

What I saw today was good, but that's the minimum expectation I have when watching this club. The vast majority of games this season have been well below this standard, I've seen enough. 

[mozo]

8 minutes ago, Robbored said:

I wonder what influence Conway’s assessment of the way and shape that the Foxes play had today?  I intended to notice if he’d make different runs but was too engrossed in the game to really notice.

One thing I did notice was McCrory  hitting the side netting when well placed to pull it back. I can remember at least twice he did that - very frustrating as a second City goal would have killed them off.

If Conway could have put away one of the fairly tricky chances he had today we'd be saying he looks like a Premier League striker. He caused the defenders all sorts of trouble, and just lacked the ability to do what Mehmeti managed which is to put his shot wide enough of the keeper.

[And Its Smith]

Compare today versus the Leicester away game. That game was ridiculous. Didn’t even try to attack until the last 20 mins 

[Wanderingred]

7 hours ago, steviestevieneville said:

I’m far from sensitive . Of course I enjoyed it. So if you’re the opposite of blindly following then you might have similar views to me . Why have a pop at people boycotting games. Instead of trying to bait people , just enjoy the win . 

Seems like you are a bit oversensitive, given your other posts in response to similar comments. I guess I shouldn’t judge you for that, I also got quite upset by a nasty comment made at me from another forum member a few weeks back. 

I don’t agree with the bile that’s been directed by some at Manning, it’s made this forum unreadable at times for me and it course I’m feeling a bit like I want to playfully bait those who have been overly negative. I can enjoy the win and be happy for Manning, without losing sight of the bigger picture that we have serious off the field problems caused by our owners. The two aren’t mutually exclusive.

Anyway, enjoy the feeling of three hard earned points.

Edited March 29 by Wanderingred

[pillred]

7 hours ago, Woofyourkipper said:

i think most are missing the point here today.

we played well in parts and created some chances

BUT

Leicester were by a mile the better team today and missed untold clear cut chances to score 2/3/4 goals, another day we don't get so lucky.

i'm still manning out

By a mile the better team? I think we must have been watching a different game, a draw would have possibly been fairer but I would say from what I saw it was very slightly in OUR favour, miles better hmm.

[TV Tom]

1 hour ago, WolfOfWestStreet said:

Yeah the amount of people getting back in to bed again with Manning is wild to me. 

What I saw today was good, but that's the minimum expectation I have when watching this club. The vast majority of games this season have been well below this standard, I've seen enough. 

The vast majority of games in the last five years have been well below standard, Mannings had five months and his tenure is going from the sublime to the ridiculous and back again, as usual, it’s more consistency that’s needed because when we are good we are good and when we are bad we are very bad

[Mr Popodopolous]

5 hours ago, Street red said:

That win does paper over the cracks what's changed since last week what's changed in the last 20 years absolutely nothing,It's the same old same old everyone gets excited over odd games it's about the season not beating tops teams now and then and getting nowhere.

I'd say Swansea result and clean sheet papered over the cracks although barely.

Today was 1-0 but very different. Some quite good football, positive, used ball well when we got the chance and Leicester are clearly a top 4 side at this level.

Wider picture? Just one game, let's see how or if we can go from there albeit midtable is the most likely outcome this season of course.

Edited March 30 by Mr Popodopolous

[Woofyourkipper]

27 minutes ago, pillred said:

By a mile the better team? I think we must have been watching a different game, a draw would have possibly been fairer but I would say from what I saw it was very slightly in OUR favour, miles better hmm.

Different views I guess,clear cut chances absolutely they were streets ahead

[ashton_fan]

I think when the season's over and we can reflect it will be clear that the squad was not as good as last season, very difficult to replace the likes of Scott and Semenyo effectively, so if we end up with more than the 59 points we got then it will be a reasonable result.

[Wokingham Red]

As the gaffer likes to say: “Don’t let the highs get too high and the lows too low”

These posts in either direction after every result are so unhelpful. 

Edited March 30 by Wokingham Red

[Robbored]

6 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

I'd say Swansea result and clean sheet papered over the cracks although barely.

Today was 1-0 but very different. Some quite good football, positive, used ball well when we got the chance and Leicester are clearly a top 4 side at this level.

Wider picture? Just one game, let's see how or if we can go from there albeit midtable is the most likely outcome this season of course.

I’m sure we’re all very happy with the win which puts us pretty much out of danger especially against a team that’s full of former PL players. 

The Foxes missed at least 3 golden opportunities with Vardy being the main culprit and the one gifted to him after a defensive error was incredible that he didn’t bury it. Should City give up chances like those at Home Park we definitely won’t dodge a bullet again.

That said - City had two stonewall penalties denied and it’s remarkable that the Conway incident wasn’t given considering that the referee had a perfect view. As for Dickie getting wrestled to the ground that was a more difficult to award especially as things like that occur at virtually every corner.

I’d have been satisfied if the game had been a 2-2 draw but obviously delighted with a (albeit a fortunate) clean sheet and the victory.
 

[ExiledAjax]

14 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said:

If you honestly think a sexual relationship between the women’s team will in anyway effect the men’s team then you are to put it nicely a nutter 

What I honestly think is based on what I've honestly been told.

[Superjack]

14 hours ago, Street red said:

One game doesn't paper over the shambolic running of this club.

Seems to with some.

[Sir Geoff]

17 hours ago, Curr Avon said:

Despite supposedly losing the dressing room, being out of his depth, and boring I'd say our manager deserves a lot of credit for today's excellent victory against Premier League bound Leicester.

Although I expect several of you to disagree.

 

And FBC isn't knee jerk. Ok