Plymouth Argyle away match thread

[bexhill reds]

3 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said:

It’d make mine. 

Whatever could you mean…… 

[Numero Uno]

6 minutes ago, The Swan and Cemetery said:

U turns would imply people now think LM is definitively is the right person for the job, having previously been desperate for him to go. Not sure there are many signs of that change in view, but people can recognise performances for what they are, good and bad. If @W-S-M Seagull comes on demanding a 10 year contract for LM, fair enough. Overall I remain very unconvinced, but last two games have been solid/strong performances, so if that progress continues, all good. Never quite reached wanting him out, equally a long way from expecting great things next season - with a fair wind I’ll be wrong. 

Exactly that. People who have been critical of Manning are calling out two much improved performances. Not just improved, chalk and cheese to what preceded them. Don’t see that as a problem tbf. If that trend continues into the early part of next season then there will be full U turns. For me he needed these performances to even make it to next season and that’s a given now.

Speaking for myself there is one person in a Senior position in our club I wouldn’t U turn my view on and it definitely isn’t Liam.

[Lanterne Rouge]

7 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

That`s who their fans want and I reckon he will be appointed.

Thank God it wasn`t before today`s game!

[slartibartfast]

4 minutes ago, bexhill reds said:

I was more referencing players getting a quick head up and not being able immediately pick out a player especially on a longer pass. I’d also made reference to some of the research done on the psychology and visual benefits of different colour shirts rather than something to make a few quid in the club shop with. To my mind White would have been a better away shirt for today.

I would always go with white. I used to hate it when City were in all red and the other team were in, say, all blue...........nightmare for me !

[TV Tom]

24 minutes ago, Jimbo76 said:

As I say, I wasn't sure which way it was going to go with him. Just felt a bit uncomfortable with the timing and nature of the backlash.

He might not be the answer but I get the impression that he has a work ethic, ambition and the players are playing for him and believing in him. Can't ask much more than that.

If he succeeds, I think most of us think it will be despite those above him, not because of them.

I think he's shown a lot in the last two games of what people were berating him for in terms of tactics, game management and subs.

I'm not being all knowing after the event. I think most of his critics, you included, gave a rationale for the criticism.

Some weren't quite so measured.

Agree 100%, found it really strange how quickly so many (particularly who I would regard as reasonable posters) were on his back, personally I’ve enjoyed more games in the last three months than I have in the last three years

[mozo]

13 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

Exactly that. People who have been critical of Manning are calling out two much improved performances. Not just improved, chalk and cheese to what preceded them. Don’t see that as a problem tbf. If that trend continues into the early part of next season then there will be full U turns. For me he needed these performances to even make it to next season and that’s a given now.

Speaking for myself there is one person in a Senior position in our club I wouldn’t U turn my view on and it definitely isn’t Liam.

The issue I have with your framing of it is that it sort of implies that everything pre Leicester was rubbish, when it clearly wasn't. We all know that he won three in a row early doors, he has the FA Cup games, the big performance that shall be not mentioned, plus games like Coventry and Ipswich that were far better performances that the 1 pt yielded shows.

If we beat Sunderland Manning will be on nearly 40% win ratio for City. 

So I'm not saying he's had an amazing start to his City career, but you'd think from some rhetoric that before Easter came he was a shocker. Also not true.

We had a bad patch. It wasn't enjoyable, and clearly confidence sapped from the players. That's football.

Edited April 1 by mozo

[chinapig]

53 minutes ago, Jimbo76 said:

I am however enjoying the subtle first efforts at U turns that are now cropping up.

"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" (attributed to J M Keynes)

Changing your mind when evidence justifies it is a strength not a weakness, despite what politicians claim. I try to form opinions based on (sufficient) evidence rather than take a fixed position and stick to it.

I wouldn't say there is sufficient evidence in Manning's favour over his tenure so far and pleased though I am with successive wins I'll wait for more evidence I think.

Which seems reasonable to me.

[Davefevs]

44 minutes ago, Ron W said:

Ah I didn't put the 'now we're safe' caveat the moment we hit 52 points by accident now Dave... 

we were safe on Friday imho

[marmite]

I was critical of Manning but it was more his boring style of play rather than his points per game. Many on here said they wouldn't watch Neil Warnock if he was manager because of his style of play, even if he got us promoted. I buy my season ticket to be entertained and that wasn't happening under Manning. The last couple of games have been better but it's still early days for me. The improvement needs to be consistent and then I'll happily admit that maybe he was searching for a system with these players. He may have found out what works well but he needs consistency. 

 

[Numero Uno]

3 minutes ago, mozo said:

The issue I have with your framing of it is that it sort of implies that everything pre Leicester was rubbish, when it clearly wasn't. We all know that he won three in a row early doors, he has the FA Cup games, the big performance that shall be not mentioned, plus games like Coventry and Ipswich that were far better performances that the 1 pt yielded shows.

If we beat Sunderland Manning will be on nearly 40% win ratio for City. 

So I'm not saying he's had an amazing start to his City career, but you'd think from some rhetoric that before Easter came he was a shocker. Also not true.

We had a bad patch. It wasn't enjoyable, and clearly confidence sapped from the players. That's football.

He did ok up to and including Boxing Day then the wheels came off in terms of our league form which is all I care about really. It was poor bar six to seven halves of football (out of 28) for three months in the league. Even after a very impressive Easter he’s still on a 44% Defeat Ratio (you brought stats into it!!) and that is unimpressive in anyones book.

If and when Liam shows this isn’t a false dawn (and we don’t go on another post Southampton run) many people will revise their views and that is fair enough imo. I can only think of one obvious poster who has not praised anything about the last two games. One.

[ralphindevon]

A lovely day out in Devon.

Great to see us beat a poor team, Plymouth didn’t look anywhere near the goal threat they looked at Ashton Gate. Even though they lost that 4-1 they came very close a number of times that night. Today they never looked like scoring. Hope they stay up though. 

[mozo]

8 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

He did ok up to and including Boxing Day then the wheels came off in terms of our league form which is all I care about really. It was poor bar six to seven halves of football (out of 28) for three months in the league. Even after a very impressive Easter he’s still on a 44% Defeat Ratio (you brought stats into it!!) and that is unimpressive in anyones book.

If and when Liam shows this isn’t a false dawn (and we don’t go on another post Southampton run) many people will revise their views and that is fair enough imo. I can only think of one obvious poster who has not praised anything about the last two games. One.

I think of a lot of posters that decisively called Manning out of his depth and frequently mocked him*, but that's all part and parcel of this forum. Was the same for Nige, LJ etc etc.

Theres been a lot of emotion this season. I think everyone just needs to summer break to reset their brains!

 

*prior to Leicester 

Edited April 1 by mozo

[McNasty Filth]

3 hours ago, Jimbo76 said:

Need to sub Conway. Don't mind trying anyone else up front. Twine? Cornick?

Something not right with Conway. Either confidence or unsettled at the club but not been at it for a while.

Said this to a mate at the ground on Saturday. He looked as though he was playing on a different wavelength to the rest of the team then, caught on his heels and way to slow to react to what were good balls into space down the line.

Not sure what it is tbh, but at a guess I'd say the guy defo know he's out the door, maybe even knows the club with both sides having agreed a prelim fee already.

[REDOXO]

46 minutes ago, slartibartfast said:

I am visually impaired and colour blind and I have absolutely no problem in telling them apart .

Colour blindness probably helps. 

[Davefevs]

15 minutes ago, mozo said:

The issue I have with your framing of it is that it sort of implies that everything pre Leicester was rubbish, when it clearly wasn't. We all know that he won three in a row early doors, he has the FA Cup games, the big performance that shall be not mentioned, plus games like Coventry and Ipswich that were far better performances that the 1 pt yielded shows.

If we beat Sunderland Manning will be on nearly 40% win ratio for City. 

So I'm not saying he's had an amazing start to his City career, but you'd think from some rhetoric that before Easter came he was a shocker. Also not true.

We had a bad patch. It wasn't enjoyable, and clearly confidence sapped from the players. That's football.

I’ve always said I don’t think he’s been awful (just not good enough), but the trend was very worrying…and I think he’s struggled at this level, and saw little to give me encouragement he’d ride out that downward trend, ie it would continue.

That was after Cardiff.

We've played 5 games since.  The first 3 (Ipswich, Swansea and West Brom) gave zero indication that we’d play with the intent of Good Friday.  I wasn’t very impressed with Ipswich, I think leading twice blurred the game.  Swansea, the final 25minutes blurred a horrible performance.  West Brom not as bad but not great.

So, I’ve now got one game (Leicester) and 2/3ds of Plymouth to add into the mix of 20+ games.  Some good, too many not so good imho

If I see consistency (of intent) going forward then some of those 20+ games will move into the “archives” and be less relevant.

Others will have very different ways of getting to their viewpoint. That is absolutely fine.  I’m just expressing mine.  Some people think I want to be right.  Nothing would give me greater pleasure than for LM to bring success to Bristol City.  The only manager I’ve ever been against appointing was Pulis.  Up the reds!

 

[Redandproud]

6 minutes ago, McNasty Filth said:

Said this to a mate at the ground on Saturday. He looked as though he was playing on a different wavelength to the rest of the team then, caught on his heels and way to slow to react to what were good balls into space down the line.

Not sure what it is tbh, but at a guess I'd say the guy defo know he's out the door, maybe even knows the club with both sides having agreed a prelim fee already.

I've always said, if they don't want to wear the shirt,   don't expect to get picked to play, 

[bexhill reds]

12 minutes ago, TV Tom said:

Agree 100%, found it really strange how quickly so many (particularly who I would regard as reasonable posters) were on his back, personally I’ve enjoyed more games in the last three months than I have in the last three years

I don’t think that people were immediately on his back. He clearly was not helped by the background of his appointment nor some of the rhetoric that came from the club when he was appointed. Arguably that’s not a fair element to judge him by, but football is passionate and passion does not always bring about rational and fair minded thought.

I think some of the performances and the results that have gone with them have not helped. He’d managed to conjure some dreadful stuff on the pitch, and then followed that up with poor post match interviews where he fell back to his mantra, emotions, behaviours, blah blah. 

Perhaps he is turning it around, although I don’t think he’s done enough to be in credit yet. He has averted some pressure and given himself more time and probably the opportunity to bring in players as all managers want to do. That’s ultimately what he’ll be judged on

[redkev]

1 hour ago, bexhill reds said:

You can enjoy the wins but still question the overall ability of the manager, those 2 opinions can still be valid. One swallow  does not make the summer and all that.

The last 2 results have bought him time, the jury is very much still out for me. The football is slightly better and a bit more entertaining. We beat Leicester but on another day they could have been out of sight in the first half if Vardy had brought his finishing boots with him.

Most posters and even the negative ones have watched enough football to appreciate and acknowledge if there is an improvement, and most will enjoy being wrong if that’s the case, as ultimately City will be more successful and ultimately more entertaining. If seeing that gives you kicks then good for you. 

 

I agree with the majority of what you say but I don’t buy into this if Leicester had brought there shooting boots blah blah city had just as many chances as they did given in my opinion there was deffo 2 poss 3 pens we should could of had 

[mozo]

1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

I’ve always said I don’t think he’s been awful (just not good enough), but the trend was very worrying…and I think he’s struggled at this level, and saw little to give me encouragement he’d ride out that downward trend, ie it would continue.

That was after Cardiff.

We've played 5 games since.  The first 3 (Ipswich, Swansea and West Brom) gave zero indication that we’d play with the intent of Good Friday.  I wasn’t very impressed with Ipswich, I think leading twice blurred the game.  Swansea, the final 25minutes blurred a horrible performance.  West Brom not as bad but not great.

So, I’ve now got one game (Leicester) and 2/3ds of Plymouth to add into the mix of 20+ games.  Some good, too many not so good imho

If I see consistency (of intent) going forward then some of those 20+ games will move into the “archives” and be less relevant.

Others will have very different ways of getting to their viewpoint. That is absolutely fine.  I’m just expressing mine.  Some people think I want to be right.  Nothing would give me greater pleasure than for LM to bring success to Bristol City.  The only manager I’ve ever been against appointing was Pulis.  Up the reds!

 

I thought the Ipswich tactics and performance were pretty good. Swansea was a pretty terrible winning performance, but you could see that irrespective of the annoyingly passive block, the players had no confidence left, and that just happens in football when pressure builds.

[mozo]

1 minute ago, redkev said:

I agree with the majority of what you say but I don’t buy into this if Leicester had brought there shooting boots blah blah city had just as many chances as they did given in my opinion there was deffo 2 poss 3 pens we should could of had 

Spot on, and there have been a few games where we've fluffed our lines in the final third and not won the game, so how far do you go with the ifs, buts and maybes?!

[bexhill reds]

3 minutes ago, redkev said:

I agree with the majority of what you say but I don’t buy into this if Leicester had brought there shooting boots blah blah city had just as many chances as they did given in my opinion there was deffo 2 poss 3 pens we should could of had 

Correct, got my halves confused

[redkev]

11 minutes ago, McNasty Filth said:

Said this to a mate at the ground on Saturday. He looked as though he was playing on a different wavelength to the rest of the team then, caught on his heels and way to slow to react to what were good balls into space down the line.

Not sure what it is tbh, but at a guess I'd say the guy defo know he's out the door, maybe even knows the club with both sides having agreed a prelim fee already.

On current form it would be a league 2 club , 

perhaps it’s the manning style not suiting him I don’t know but he’s not doing it for me at the moment , saying that he is a young lad finding his way , I think if he resigned himself to signing a new contract and stay here for a couple of seasons it would in the long term be better for him. Would like nothing more for him to sign a new deal get his head down and rediscover himself 

[TV Tom]

3 minutes ago, bexhill reds said:

I don’t think that people were immediately on his back. He clearly was not helped by the background of his appointment nor some of the rhetoric that came from the club when he was appointed. Arguably that’s not a fair element to judge him by, but football is passionate and passion does not always bring about rational and fair minded thought.

I think some of the performances and the results that have gone with them have not helped. He’d managed to conjure some dreadful stuff on the pitch, and then followed that up with poor post match interviews where he fell back to his mantra, emotions, behaviours, blah blah. 

Perhaps he is turning it around, although I don’t think he’s done enough to be in credit yet. He has averted some pressure and given himself more time and probably the opportunity to bring in players as all managers want to do. That’s ultimately what he’ll be judged on

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head in your first paragraph

in regards to the “dreadful stuff” we’ve had to put up with that for the majority of the last five years and is not something he is going to change overnight, all I’ve been saying is give him a bit of time (not three months) then judge him

[W-S-M Seagull]

56 minutes ago, The Swan and Cemetery said:

U turns would imply people now think LM is definitively is the right person for the job, having previously been desperate for him to go. Not sure there are many signs of that change in view, but people can recognise performances for what they are, good and bad. If @W-S-M Seagull comes on demanding a 10 year contract for LM, fair enough. Overall I remain very unconvinced, but last two games have been solid/strong performances, so if that progress continues, all good. Never quite reached wanting him out, equally a long way from expecting great things next season - with a fair wind I’ll be wrong. 

Two 1 nil wins against teams out of form does not and will not change my opinion that he is not the right fit for us. I'm very much still of the opinion that he needs to go now to give the new guy time to work with the squad this season. 

I remain incredibly concerned that he's going to be allowed to rip up this decent squad and then bring in 'manningball players' and that we'll then be looking at a relegation battle.

It's likely that we may well see the likes of James and King leave because he doesnt quite understand the importance their experience brings because he doesn't see football that way. Once those players are gone, they are gone. That's why I fear we'll end up in e relegation battle.

I can't comment on today's game as I only saw little bits of it. 

At the moment it just seems like another streak which he likes to do. Lose X amount in a row and then win X amount in a row. 

It's going to take an awful lot to convince me that he can take us forward (having taken us backwards) 

I think there are critical deficiencies in his management that are terminal for him here. 

 

[ollywhyte]

Looks like Foster is set to be sacked imminently. Warnock in for Argyles final 6 games…

[slartibartfast]

20 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

Colour blindness probably helps. 

In a strange way, possibly .

[redkev]

5 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Two 1 nil wins against teams out of form does not and will not change my opinion that he is not the right fit for us. I'm very much still of the opinion that he needs to go now to give the new guy time to work with the squad this season. 

I remain incredibly concerned that he's going to be allowed to rip up this decent squad and then bring in 'manningball players' and that we'll then be looking at a relegation battle.

It's likely that we may well see the likes of James and King leave because he doesnt quite understand the importance their experience brings because he doesn't see football that way. Once those players are gone, they are gone. That's why I fear we'll end up in e relegation battle.

I can't comment on today's game as I only saw little bits of it. 

At the moment it just seems like another streak which he likes to do. Lose X amount in a row and then win X amount in a row. 

It's going to take an awful lot to convince me that he can take us forward (having taken us backwards) 

I think there are critical deficiencies in his management that are terminal for him here. 

 

Not knocking your post as we all have differing opinions but firstly - who would you bring in 

secondly if James does go who I think is such an important cog in how we play how do you know it’s manning who doesn’t want him here , there are rumours he e

wantsto move closer to Manchester and also perhaps he’s not happy with any contract that he may or may not have been offered , not everything can put shoved in mannings lap - by the way in still not convinced in manning 

[bexhill reds]

5 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Two 1 nil wins against teams out of form does not and will not change my opinion that he is not the right fit for us. I'm very much still of the opinion that he needs to go now to give the new guy time to work with the squad this season. 

I remain incredibly concerned that he's going to be allowed to rip up this decent squad and then bring in 'manningball players' and that we'll then be looking at a relegation battle.

It's likely that we may well see the likes of James and King leave because he doesnt quite understand the importance their experience brings because he doesn't see football that way. Once those players are gone, they are gone. That's why I fear we'll end up in e relegation battle.

I can't comment on today's game as I only saw little bits of it. 

At the moment it just seems like another streak which he likes to do. Lose X amount in a row and then win X amount in a row. 

It's going to take an awful lot to convince me that he can take us forward (having taken us backwards) 

I think there are critical deficiencies in his management that are terminal for him here. 

 

I think you are wrong here. As soon as James was fit he was straight back in the starting lineup, so I think LM very much appreciates what he brings to the team. The difficulty will be in the contract that the club wishes to put forward, I suspect that with one eye on coaching badges then James will want to hang around.

King less so, we’ll have plenty of cover next season in midfield, and arguably keeping Williams would be better than King from a playing perspective.

 

[bexhill reds]

14 minutes ago, TV Tom said:

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head in your first paragraph

in regards to the “dreadful stuff” we’ve had to put up with that for the majority of the last five years and is not something he is going to change overnight, all I’ve been saying is give him a bit of time (not three months) then judge him

He’s got the time now… I hope your optimism is correct.

[Red Ferret]

53 minutes ago, chinapig said:

"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" (attributed to J M Keynes)

Changing your mind when evidence justifies it is a strength not a weakness, despite what politicians claim. I try to form opinions based on (sufficient) evidence rather than take a fixed position and stick to it.

I wouldn't say there is sufficient evidence in Manning's favour over his tenure so far and pleased though I am with successive wins I'll wait for more evidence I think.

Which seems reasonable to me.

 

Yep, pretty much the main principles of how science works. A good scientist will never say "this is how it is" but instead will say "this is what we currently know". The same can, and should, apply to everything in life from politics to football analysis 

[bexhill reds]

25 minutes ago, mozo said:

Spot on, and there have been a few games where we've fluffed our lines in the final third and not won the game, so how far do you go with the ifs, buts and maybes?!

All down to results, if buts and maybes make up the post match chat. We won’t be talking about this season’s matches next season. Apart from when the club releases the Southampton anniversary one off shirt…

[Kid in the Riot]

44 minutes ago, ralphindevon said:

A lovely day out in Devon.

Great to see us beat a poor team, Plymouth didn’t look anywhere near the goal threat they looked at Ashton Gate. Even though they lost that 4-1 they came very close a number of times that night. Today they never looked like scoring. Hope they stay up though. 

Cheeky, you.

I was about to like that post until I read the last five words! 

Back to L1 for the janners please!

[Super]

26 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Two 1 nil wins against teams out of form does not and will not change my opinion that he is not the right fit for us. I'm very much still of the opinion that he needs to go now to give the new guy time to work with the squad this season. 

I remain incredibly concerned that he's going to be allowed to rip up this decent squad and then bring in 'manningball players' and that we'll then be looking at a relegation battle.

It's likely that we may well see the likes of James and King leave because he doesnt quite understand the importance their experience brings because he doesn't see football that way. Once those players are gone, they are gone. That's why I fear we'll end up in e relegation battle.

I can't comment on today's game as I only saw little bits of it. 

At the moment it just seems like another streak which he likes to do. Lose X amount in a row and then win X amount in a row. 

It's going to take an awful lot to convince me that he can take us forward (having taken us backwards) 

I think there are critical deficiencies in his management that are terminal for him here. 

 

You've never given him a chance from day one for obvious reasons.  He's not going anywhere and rightly so.

[Sleepy1968]

2 hours ago, 2015 said:

The kid isnt as good as he thinks he is imo.

We don't play to his strengths, so it's become a bit difficult for me to appreciate how good he is recently.

Some of the issues might be partly of his own making, but it's upsetting that it's not working out for him here.

I've got to the stage where I almost want him to leave for his own benefit.

 

[redsquirrel]

big thing proved to me today is the players werent just playing up to the cameras. not much incentive for them beating a crap plymouth team.

however,they have helped manning secure his place so sort of suggests they do like him. weve all seen dead rubbers played out in previous seasons,too many in recent years, today didnt seem like one. they wanted to win

[Superjack]

3 hours ago, cotswoldred2 said:

Superjerk gave me face palm...we must have won....again. 

Glad we won. 

I give you facepalms because you usually talk shite. 

And seeing as you're getting abusive...

... **** off.

[1960maaan]

So, how is your evening going 

 

[Superjack]

8 minutes ago, Superjack said:

Glad we won. 

I give you facepalms because you usually talk shite. 

And seeing as you're getting abusive...

... **** off.

@TV Tom

Hilarious.

[Wedontplayinblue]

14 minutes ago, redsquirrel said:

big thing proved to me today is the players werent just playing up to the cameras. not much incentive for them beating a crap plymouth team.

however,they have helped manning secure his place so sort of suggests they do like him. weve all seen dead rubbers played out in previous seasons,too many in recent years, today didnt seem like one. they wanted to win

Players don’t need to play up for cameras anymore, this isn’t 1992 anymore. 

Every game is possible to be watched now days. 

[ralphindevon]

48 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Cheeky, you.

I was about to like that post until I read the last five words! 

Back to L1 for the janners please!

I’m home from an away day earlier than I am for a home game and with Torquay almost in the same league as Bristol Manor Farm we need all we can get.

And we’ve done the double on them and I had a gorgeous pasty! 

[Cardy]

1 hour ago, McNasty Filth said:

Said this to a mate at the ground on Saturday. He looked as though he was playing on a different wavelength to the rest of the team then, caught on his heels and way to slow to react to what were good balls into space down the line.

Not sure what it is tbh, but at a guess I'd say the guy defo know he's out the door, maybe even knows the club with both sides having agreed a prelim fee already.

Ofcourse his heart isn’t in it - he’s off to Rangers in the Summer. Worst kept secret in the EFL - loose lips sink ships.

[22A]

Every  silver lining has a cloud.

City could have climbed one place higher over Cardiff today, but having taken the lead, Coventry scored two own goals. 

[22A]

On their forum tonight; https://pasoti.co.uk/threads/bristol-city-post-match-round-up.127638/

[Pip King]

1 hour ago, Wedontplayinblue said:

Players don’t need to play up for cameras anymore, this isn’t 1992 anymore. 

Every game is possible to be watched now days. 

Obviously you can watch any game but a game being broadcast on Sky TV is going to get a lot more attention than one on Robins TV or iFollow, hence the argument (which I don't agree with) that we only put in a performance when we're on Sky

[cheddarwedlocker]

 

[Mr Popodopolous]

1 hour ago, 22A said:

Every  silver lining has a cloud.

City could have climbed one place higher over Cardiff today, but having taken the lead, Coventry scored two own goals. 

They got a late winner at Sheffield Wednesday just before Christmas too with an own goal, goal in a draw v Plymouth own goal- they seem to benefit from a few.

[W-S-M Seagull]

2 hours ago, Super said:

You've never given him a chance from day one for obvious reasons.  He's not going anywhere and rightly so.

Never given him a go because I've never felt he was the right fit for us and that still stands to this day.

Rightly so you're acting like we've just won the league. 

BTW, I'm glad that you and all the others have suddenly remembered your login details. I was getting worried.

 

Edited April 1 by W-S-M Seagull

[Jerseybean]

2 hours ago, ollywhyte said:

Looks like Foster is set to be sacked imminently. Warnock in for Argyles final 6 games…

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/04/01/plymouth-sack-ian-foster-head-coach/

[W-S-M Seagull]

2 hours ago, redkev said:

Not knocking your post as we all have differing opinions but firstly - who would you bring in 

Danny Rohl would be top of my list. 

[JakeOTIB]

Foster sacked!

[phantom]

17 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Never given him a go because I've never felt he was the right fit for us and that still stands to this day.

Rightly so you're acting like we've just won the league. 

BTW, I'm glad that you and all the others have suddenly remembered your login details. I was getting worried.

 

You know full well it flips just the same when we lose 

Funny how those usual posters are missing this weekend 

7 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Danny Rohl would be top of my list. 

Fair play, that's one of the funniest things I've read on OTIB this weekend, he's been in charge of his first club for less than a season with a pretty dire record 

[W-S-M Seagull]

1 minute ago, phantom said:

You know full well it flips just the same when we lose 

Funny how those usual posters are missing this weekend 

Fair play, that's one of the funniest things I've read on OTIB this weekend, he's been in charge of his first club for less than a season with a pretty dire record 

1.24 ppg compared to Mannings 1.28 ppg with a far far lesser squad that was certain to go down. I'd say that's actually pretty damn good.

[phantom]

1 hour ago, 22A said:

On their forum tonight; https://pasoti.co.uk/threads/bristol-city-post-match-round-up.127638/

Wonderful reading 

Pop 

[Mr Popodopolous]

2 hours ago, ollywhyte said:

Looks like Foster is set to be sacked imminently. Warnock in for Argyles final 6 games…

One or two suggestions by Plymouth fans that it could be NP although the smart money is surely on Warnock.

[REDOXO]

The revisionism is great. No matter what anyone says there were games where we were simply awful. 
 

What appears to have changed in the last couple of games is 

A We won them

B We played with an intent to go forward that was lacking 

 

[phantom]

5 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

1.24 ppg compared to Mannings 1.28 ppg with a far far lesser squad that was certain to go down. I'd say that's actually pretty damn good.

That's really sad that you had that information at your finger tips to instantly post 

 

[mozo]

2 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

The revisionism is great. No matter what anyone says there were games where we were simply awful. 
 

What appears to have changed in the last couple of games is 

A We won them

B We played with an intent to go forward that was lacking 

 

Yes but not that many in my opinion.

[22A]

2 hours ago, ollywhyte said:

Looks like Foster is set to be sacked imminently. Warnock in for Argyles final 6 games…

The Plymouth forum announced the sacking at 6.45pm and they're on the whole, happy about it. 

https://pasoti.co.uk/threads/ian-foster-sacked-confirmed.127640/

[DOZZYBCFC]

Ian Foster has been sacked by Plymouth.

[mozo]

3 minutes ago, DOZZYBCFC said:

Ian Foster has been sacked by Plymouth.

@petehinton called it

[fixit]

11 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

One or two suggestions by Plymouth fans that it could be NP although the smart money is surely on Warnock.

BBC Sport are reporting;

Director of Football Neil Dewsnip and first-team coach Kevin Nancekivell will take charge of the team for the remainder of the season.

First team coach Simon Ireland and goalkeeping coach Daryl Flahavan - who joined the club under Foster - will stay on their roles.  

No new saviour it seems...

 

 

11 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

 

Edited April 1 by fixit
error on publish

[petehinton]

2 minutes ago, mozo said:

@petehinton called it

And their director of football put in charge for rest of season!!

[W-S-M Seagull]

5 minutes ago, mozo said:

Yes but not that many in my opinion.

Yea only -

QPR (A)

Norwich

Huddersfield 

Blackburn

Birmingham (A)

Millwall (A)

Preston

Leeds

QPR (H)

Sheff Wed

Cardiff

Swansea

West Brom. 

Not that many at all.

[W-S-M Seagull]

2 minutes ago, petehinton said:

And their director of football put in charge for rest of season!!

Hope Tinnion didn't have any conversations with them after. Wouldn't want him getting any ideas. 

[REDOXO]

10 minutes ago, mozo said:

Yes but not that many in my opinion.

We can agree to disagree there. 
 

However we are both hoping that Mr Manning has turned a metaphoric corner and we can play a bit more to the abilities of our players and a little less to an idea! 
 

A result at Sunderland will really be great for everyone. 

[Mr Popodopolous]

8 minutes ago, petehinton said:

And their director of football put in charge for rest of season!!

He did okay as caretaker earlier in the season. 

[fgrsimon]

19 minutes ago, petehinton said:

And their director of football put in charge for rest of season!!

Would have thought it would be the perfect job for Warnock, he'd barely have to get out of bed! 

[Fjmcity]

32 minutes ago, phantom said:

That's really sad that you had that information at your finger tips to instantly post 

 

You must be prepared in order to have the required excuse/explanation/whataboutary at the moments notice

PPG was held very dear by certain members of the forum not so long ago, seems to have been cast aside now. Weird

[JBFC II]

55 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Danny Rohl would be top of my list. 

What about him would make him top of your list?

5 months of managerial experience with a worse record than Manning, what about his time so far at Sheffield Wednesday makes you think he’d take us forward?

[W-S-M Seagull]

4 minutes ago, Fjmcity said:

You must be prepared in order to have the required excuse/explanation/whataboutary at the moments notice

PPG was held very dear by certain members of the forum not so long ago, seems to have been cast aside now. Weird

I didn't invent Google unfortunately.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/danny-rohl/profil/trainer/31917