Red Skin Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Why exactly is it a booking offence? Most players wear an undershirt anyway so it not like they are exposing themselves. If it is to do with not showing the sponsors name when all the cameras are on them in the moments after they score, then surely this should be a financial penalty dished out by their sponsor rather than handled as a booking. If it's to reveal a political message then perhaps that is one thing, but if it isn't then there shouldn't be any any booking as far as I'm concerned Just let the players celebrate the moment. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 It’s designed to prevent this 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 6 minutes ago, pongo88 said: It’s designed to prevent this Yes. That 'famous' Newcastle fan should be ****ing locked up, never mind booked. Puts you right off your cider... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 29 minutes ago, Red Skin said: Why exactly is it a booking offence? Most players wear an undershirt anyway so it not like they are exposing themselves. If it is to do with not showing the sponsors name when all the cameras are on them in the moments after they score, then surely this should be a financial penalty dished out by their sponsor rather than handled as a booking. If it's to reveal a political message then perhaps that is one thing, but if it isn't then there shouldn't be any any booking as far as I'm concerned Just let the players celebrate the moment. I assume that a player removing his shirt in celebration of scoring is seen as antagonistic towards opposing fans. it’s also a yellow if a player leaves the pitch and joins/dives in to the teams supporters for the same reason, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open End Numb Legs Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Wasn't it just to stop displaying controversial messages on the base layer? A bit harsh when it ends up displaying 'Happy Birthday Grandma' and what happens if they just pull it up a bit? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 8 minutes ago, Open End Numb Legs said: Wasn't it just to stop displaying controversial messages on the base layer? A bit harsh when it ends up displaying 'Happy Birthday Grandma' and what happens if they just pull it up a bit? Thought it was also to limit sponsorships being displayed, wasn't shirt but the Niklas Bendtner and Paddy Power thing comes to mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 31 minutes ago, pongo88 said: It’s designed to prevent this Please stop posting photos of me on OTIB x 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted April 3 Admin Share Posted April 3 Players are shown a yellow card for taking their shirts off due to it being considered an ‘excessive’ celebration. Law 12 in the IFAB Laws of the Game discusses Fouls and Misconduct with the section stating: “Players can celebrate when a goal is scored, but the celebration must not be excessive; choreographed celebrations are not encouraged and must not cause excessive time-wasting. “Leaving the field of play to celebrate a goal is not a cautionable offence but players should return as soon as possible. “A player must be cautioned, even if the goal is disallowed, for: climbing onto a perimeter fence and/or approaching the spectators in a manner which causes safety and/or security issues gesturing or acting in a provocative, derisory or inflammatory way covering the head or face with a mask or other similar item removing the shirt or covering the head with the shirt” TAKEN FROM: Law 12 - Fouls and Misconduct (thefa.com) CELEBRATION OF A GOAL Players can celebrate when a goal is scored, but the celebration must not be excessive; choreographed celebrations are not encouraged and must not cause excessive time-wasting. Leaving the field of play to celebrate a goal is not a cautionable offence but players should return as soon as possible. A player must be cautioned, even if the goal is disallowed, for: climbing onto a perimeter fence and/or approaching the spectators in a manner which causes safety and/or security issues gesturing or acting in a provocative, derisory or inflammatory way covering the head or face with a mask or other similar item removing the shirt or covering the head with the shirt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 5 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: Please stop posting photos of me on OTIB x Yeah. That's not fair. I have just posted it as my profile pic on Plenty of Fish though... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Every fan knows it is the Law Every player knows it is the Law So just keep your ducking shirt on you morons Simple 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldland2 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Rather than give them a yellow card , just disallow the goal, that should stop it in the future 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, Superjack said: Yeah. That's not fair. I have just posted it as my profile pic on Plenty of Fish though... Milking my stunning good looks and suspiciously hairy belly for matches? Thought you were better than that SJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: Milking my stunning good looks and suspiciously hairy belly for matches? Thought you were better than that SJ Well... for reasons that I can't divulge... ... I have to go in disguise nowadays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Do the rules state that they can't take off their shorts? (Asking for a friend) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 10 hours ago, pongo88 said: It’s designed to prevent this Lee Tomlin’s dyed his hair. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedsHeadIs Red Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 From what I see around the place, keeping your shirt on should be a law of the land, not just a law of football. Just for men. The ladies can do as they please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Journalist Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Has anyone ever taken their shirt off to celebrate, ran around like a lunatic waving it above their head but have another identical shirt on underneath to try beating the system? Feel like that would be a mildly amusing celebration but surely been done already. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciderhead433 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 14 hours ago, ZiderEyed said: Please stop posting photos of me on OTIB x Thank **** it's you, I thought it was me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted April 4 Admin Share Posted April 4 24 minutes ago, Ciderhead433 said: Thank **** it's you, I thought it was me For anyone that hasn't seen his videos they are very amusing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Do women's team get booked for popping their tops off, as well ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severn Beach Pigeon Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 hour ago, The Journalist said: Has anyone ever taken their shirt off to celebrate, ran around like a lunatic waving it above their head but have another identical shirt on underneath to try beating the system? Feel like that would be a mildly amusing celebration but surely been done already. Or half take it off Arms out the sleeves, pull the top up so it's only around your neck Just don't cover your face with it and don't remove it fully and you haven't technically broken the rules as they're written. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted April 4 Author Share Posted April 4 15 hours ago, Robbored said: I assume that a player removing his shirt in celebration of scoring is seen as antagonistic towards opposing fans. it’s also a yellow if a player leaves the pitch and joins/dives in to the teams supporters for the same reason, Leaving the field of play to dive into the supporters is one thing, and I can see why that may be bookable. I never agree with the 'antagonising' opposition fans though. The poor delicate little flowers that are able to gesture and chant abuse at players all game, that can't take it when they get some abuse back. Surely, the most antagonist thing is scoring in the first place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 17 minutes ago, Red Skin said: I never agree with the 'antagonising' opposition fans though. The poor delicate little flowers that are able to gesture and chant abuse at players all game, that can't take it when they get some abuse back. Surely, the most antagonist thing is scoring in the first place! That’s my interpretation as why players get booked for removing their shirt after scoring - that doesn’t mean that my interpretation is right tho, I’m not a qualified referee. If there are qualified refs on here maybe they’d know………. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted April 4 Admin Share Posted April 4 2 hours ago, slartibartfast said: Do women's team get booked for popping their tops off, as well ? Yes, why would it be any difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I imagine all players know they aren't suppoised to do it (rightly or wrongly) so WHY do it? Reminds me of the late Kenny Everett "and suddenly, all my clothes fell off In the best paaaassible taste! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Corner Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 18 hours ago, pongo88 said: It’s designed to prevent this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 17 hours ago, Maltshoveller said: Every fan knows it is the Law Every player knows it is the Law So just keep your ducking shirt on you morons Simple Because the law is always fair and should never be questioned. Right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathandao Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) I've always thought the reason for it was to stop this happening again... 6 hours ago, The Journalist said: Has anyone ever taken their shirt off to celebrate, ran around like a lunatic waving it above their head but have another identical shirt on underneath to try beating the system? Feel like that would be a mildly amusing celebration but surely been done already. Can't find the video but yes, David Odonkor did this when playing for Dortmund. Gave his shirt to a supporter in a wheelchair, and still got a yellow for his troubles, despite having an identical one underneath... Edited April 4 by Nathandao Typo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I`d pay good money to see a player dive into the crowd and be carried mosh pit style all the way to the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat Fastard Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 If I took my shirt off, it would be a red card and a lifetime ban. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severn Beach Pigeon Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 17 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said: I`d pay good money to see a player dive into the crowd and be carried mosh pit style all the way to the back. Not quite that but in this game I'm pretty sure there was another angle at the time that showed the goalscorer coming out of the crowd before he got sent off. Even then he ran the length of the pitch, plus the areas behind it, cleared a bunch of advertising for the celebration and got sent off for his troubles! Absolutely superb goal though, happens around 1:55:20 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Frankly, it's a silly rule but I can sort of see the point. Having said that, there's plenty of stupid celebrations that don't involve shirt removal. I personally hate the baby cradling or 'football up the jersey' ones. And dance moves. And acrobatics. Mind you, I also couldn't stand Shearer's dull as shit one-armed salute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 A brisk handshake is all that's required. What? What? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 3 hours ago, SecretSam said: Frankly, it's a silly rule but I can sort of see the point. Having said that, there's plenty of stupid celebrations that don't involve shirt removal. I personally hate the baby cradling or 'football up the jersey' ones. And dance moves. And acrobatics. Mind you, I also couldn't stand Shearer's dull as shit one-armed salute I can still see Mick Channon running along after scoring windmilling his arm. We`ll gloss over where he went for a while later in his career though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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