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Good job as usual JB.. This will be a good test for us following our back to back wins, going for an optimistic 1-1 draw.

Jon Stead was another who played for us and the Maccuns..

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Dennis Smith managed both clubs (at different times in 1991/92; When John Lumsden was dismissed, Dennis Smith was appointed manager. He was recommended by Brian Clough of Nottingham Forest and had guided Sunderland into the first division two years ago, but he had been sacked after the defeat at Ashton Gate in November.

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46 minutes ago, 22A said:

Dennis Smith managed both clubs (at different times in 1991/92; When John Lumsden was dismissed, Dennis Smith was appointed manager. He was recommended by Brian Clough of Nottingham Forest and had guided Sunderland into the first division two years ago, but he had been sacked after the defeat at Ashton Gate in November.

I can remember DS being introduced to the race going public at Bath (being current City boss ) as " former Sunderland manager and Stoke player"............no mention of being head honcho at City, we were left with the feeling that was how he'd like to be remembered, very strange !

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36 minutes ago, Hartleysbeard said:

Optimistic we can get three points from this one. Provided we start better than we did at Plymouth! 

Perfect game plan, let Argyle have the ball, little to no threat and they blew out

Would take just the same at Sunderland, their home crowd are bubbling at the moment too

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1 hour ago, slartibartfast said:

I can remember DS being introduced to the race going public at Bath (being current City boss ) as " former Sunderland manager and Stoke player"............no mention of being head honcho at City, we were left with the feeling that was how he'd like to be remembered, very strange !

He is pretty bitter about his time with us.

Have to say though that obviously Andy Cole & arguably Leroy Rosenior aside, his signings (Atteveld, Thompson, Mitchell, Rouse) were all uniformly awful.

 

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2 hours ago, 22A said:

Dennis Smith managed both clubs (at different times in 1991/92; When John Lumsden was dismissed, Dennis Smith was appointed manager. He was recommended by Brian Clough of Nottingham Forest and had guided Sunderland into the first division two years ago, but he had been sacked after the defeat at Ashton Gate in November.

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Just now, Robbored said:

Football fans regardless of which club they support are all fundamentally the same. Any fan reading otib would see how similar it is to their own,

Not completely true... have you seen some of the constant negative postings from some?

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19 minutes ago, phantom said:

Perfect game plan, let Argyle have the ball, little to no threat and they blew out

Would take just the same at Sunderland, their home crowd are bubbling at the moment too

Haha! Pretty sure that wasn’t the plan! Had Argyle taken any one of their numerous chances in that opening 20 mins, it could have been a different game. 

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3 hours ago, Jerseybean said:

Last season it finished all square thanks to our first penalty in 469 days https://youtu.be/GcHefHW9qEM

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-city-penalty-shock-euphoria-8166515

Guide to the Stadium of Light: https://footballgroundguide.com/leagues/england/league-one/stadium-of-light-sunderland.html

We won at our place in December thanks to a great performance from Max O’Leary highlights: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/video/highlights/extended-highlights-bristol-city-1-0-sunderland/

New head coach Michael Beale joined them immediately after this game, he said joining the club was "a huge honour." At that time they were 7th in the table. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67730543 In February they sacked him after just 63 days and 12 games in charge!  Mike Dodds was appointed as interim head coach until the end of the season.

In January they signed defender Leo Hjelde [20] from Leeds United on a four-and-a-half-year deal for an undisclosed fee.

Also signed winger Romaine Mundle from Belgian top-flight club Standard Liege on a four-and-a-half year deal, for an undisclosed fee.

Jack Clarke made a cameo appearance against Blackburn and could be fit to take Romaine Mundle’s place.

Head-to-head record

Won: 18

Lost: 16

Drawn: 15

Players who’ve played for them and us include Marcus Stewart, Stern John and Bailey Wright, of course LJ has managed both clubs.

They are immediately below us in the table on 51 points and are 21st in the form table while we are 11th, they have 2 points from their last 6 games, we have 9.

They haven’t won at home since February 10th (when they beat Plymouth 3-1) and were thumped 5-1 at home by Blackburn on Easter Monday.

Pay on the day will not be available.

Referee is Leigh Doughty

Chris Hogg presser: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/video/interviews/hogg-previews-black-cats-trip/

Sunderland stuff

You can see stalactites in Sunderland. Behind the Marina Activities Centre in Roker is the North Dock Tufa, a set of calcite stalactites created over the centuries by dripping water. No one knows for sure where the water comes from and it was only discovered in 1992 when some old huts were removed, although some claim to have known about it before that. Tufa looks especially beautiful when lit up at night. It’s free to view and is open day and night.

Wearmouth Colliery was the deepest mine in the world. The area was once home to the deepest mine in the world. The Stadium of Light was built on the site next to the three shafts leading deep below the earth. When Wearmouth Colliery began producing coal in 1835, it was the deepest mine in the world at 481m, almost a third of a mile. Eventually there were three pits on the site, imaginatively entitled A, B and C. In December 1993 Wearmouth became the last deep coal mine of the County Durham coalfield to close.

The first stained glass windows were made at St Peter’s ... probably. The earliest known reference to true stained glass windows is from 675 AD, when Benedit Biscop imported French craftsmen to do the glazing of the monastery of St Peter’s in Monkwearmouth. In the 1970s hundreds of pieces of coloured glass and lead, dating back to the 7th century, were discovered there and at St Paul’s in Jarrow. St Peter’s was built a decade before St Paul’s, so it is thought that Sunderland was presumably first. The city’s glass making heritage is now celebrated at the National Glass Centre, just a stone’s throw from St Peter’s Church in Monkwearmouth.

Sunderland was one of Britain’s most heavily bombed places in World War Two. The Germans were well aware of the astonishing shipbuilding capacity on the River Wear and the town was made a target because of that. In Easington 36 died in air raids. In Seaham it was 51 - 36 of them in a single raid in 1943

Sunderland’s shipyards produced a quarter of Britain’s tonnage of ships during the war, as shipyard girls stepped in to keep production going as the male workforce fought in the war.

A total of 267 people were killed in Sunderland by the Luftwaffe, and 90% of the town’s houses were damaged by bombs, 1,000 of which were totally destroyed.

Sunderland had a ‘mobile’ lighthouse. The Roker lighthouse is a well known symbol of the city, but before the current lighthouse was built in 1903, a lot of effort had gone into preserving the previous building. Sadly no photographs exist of the older lighthouse and pier, which were replaced by the current models in 1903

In 1841 the working, 300-tonne, 24m high stone Roker lighthouse was moved on wheels 145m – uphill - then put back again after a new north pier was built.

It sounds like a Monty Python job, but it really happened and is the oldest documented example of such a feat. The know-how was provided by Scottish civil engineer John Murray. Sadly no photographs exist of the older lighthouse and pier, which were replaced by the current models in 1903.

The Beatles played in Sunderland three times. Everyone knows that The Beatles played at the Empire at the height of Beatlemania in November 1963, and many people know the legend about the group sliding down the pole in the fire station next door to escape hysterical fans.

But most people don’t know that the biggest act in the history of popular music gave three performances on Wearside, firstly as bottom of the bill to Helen Shapiro on February 9, 1963 at the Empire Theatre before they played the Rink Ballroom in Park Lane three months later just before the superstardom began.

The FA Cup was invented by a Mackem. Charles W Alcock was born in Norfolk Street in 1842, the second of nine children. The family made their money in shipping, which meant that Charles could be sent to mega-posh public school Harrow. As a player he played centre-forward for Wanderers and captained England, but he is best remembered for founding the world’s first national football tournament, the FA Cup, which was first played in 1871. The Alcocks were quite the footballing family and Charles’ older brother, John F Alcock, was a founder of the Football Association in 1863.

The hand grenade was patented by a Mackem. Keeping on the theme of Mackem inventions, a Sunderland man invented the hand grenade. The “Mills bomb” was invented by William Mills, born in 1856 in Wear Street in Southwick, where the Times Inn pub stands. There were hand grenades before Mills, but the most recognisable was his “pineapple” design, first used in 1915 at the height of World War One and which changed trench warfare. It was safer than its predecessors (at least for the user) and around 75 million would be manufactured. Less controversially, Mills also patented aluminium golf clubs. He died in Somerset in 1932.

The first UK cases of cholera were in Sunderland. The deadly disease first spread to Europe in 1827, and despite best efforts to keep the illness away from British shores, cases were quickly recorded in Sunderland. The symptoms were horrific and included profuse diarrhoea, vomiting and sweating and death would often occur within hours of the first symptoms.

The disease’s mortality rate was high as doctors were baffled by how to stop the spread of the illness. Suspected cases of cholera began to be reported in Sunderland from late summer 1831 and despite quarantine attempts soon spread across the region and then the rest of the country. Across Britain, 32,000 people died of cholera in 1831 and 1832.

Alien 3 was filmed in Seaham. Okay, so I’ve  now strayed a little way outside Sunderland, but worth a mention is Blast Beach. The dark and desolate area was also used as the backdrop of the final scenes in Get Carter with Michael Caine. The Dawdon beach plays a starring role as alien planet, Fiorina 161 in the 1992 Alien 3 film starring Sigourney Weaver. At the time the beach was polluted by years of coal mining and the sand covered in black soot leading the director David Fincher to decide it looked sufficiently like somewhere not quite of planet Earth. It’s much nicer these days after a major clean up operation which cost £10 million.

Pubs

Sunderland's supporter liaison officer has highlighted the following as being the best for away fans:

Greens: Dating from 1901, this city centre pub is within the Bishopwearmouth Conservation Area. Located in a pedestrianised area close to the Sunderland Empire There are several large screen TV's including one that faces out to the small outside drinking area at the front of the pub. Note the copper domes at the top of the frontage of this grade ii listed building

Street Bar: https://www.streetbar.uk

Victors: https://www.useyourlocal.com/pubs/victors-sunderland-88448/

Fire Station: https://www.thefirestation.org.uk

The Peacock: https://www.facebook.com/ThePeacockSun/

For those looking for something closer to the Stadium of Light, the Colliery Tavern (see below) and the Hilton Hotel (see below) also accept away fans.

The Harbour View, 1 Benedict Road, Sunderland, SR6 0NU. A modern local pub opposite Roker Harbour and not far from Roker Beach. It was converted from a hotel and restaurant into a pub. Six hand pulls are changed regularly. Boards behind the bar display the Brewer, name of ale and ABV. Every Thursday evening from 8.pm there is a popular Speakeasy. A wide range of popular music can be heard as background music at other times. If real ale is for you, then you have found home. There is outside seating for those who enjoy sitting in the sun and a Function Room is available upstairs.

The Albion, Victor Street, Sunderland, SR6 0EN. Suburban pub not far from Roker Sea Front. Dates from 1861. Also known as the Albion Hotel.

Joseph's, 29 Holmeside, Sunderland, SR1 3JE

Wetherspoons, the William Jameson, 32 Fawcett Street, Sunderland, SR1 1RH. https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/pubs/all-pubs/england/tyne-and-wear/the-william-jameson-sunderland

The Colliery Tavern, 12 Southwick Road, Sunderland, SR5 1EQ. Brightly coloured pub (in red and white) opposite Stadium of Light. Dates from the 1870's

The Wheatsheaf, 207 Roker Avenue, Sunderland, SR6 0BN. Large three story grade 2 listed building dating back to the end of the 1890's. The name means : - meeting place for shearers engaged by farmers for cutting grain. On a busy junction. Bus stops outside the door and about half a mile to Stadium of Light Metro.

Further afield (a 7 minute drive from the ground) try the Ivy House, Worcester Terrace, Sunderland, Tyne And Wear, SR2 7AW, https://www.facebook.com/TheIvyHousePubSunderland/

Friendly Victorian corner pub off the beaten track; five well kept changing ales from interesting brewers such as Cullercoats, Torrside and Two by Two, plus a real cider, interesting bottled beers and good range of spirits, popular reasonably priced food from open kitchen including own-made burgers and pizzas; background and live music, quiz, sports TV; children and dogs welcome, special (non-alcoholic) beer for dogs; open (and food) all day.

To all the traveling fans have a great day and be loud and proud - reckon if we score first it could get ugly with their fans. 

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Great to see opposition fans reading your posts and appreciating the time and effort you put in (as well as we do)

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1 hour ago, Hartleysbeard said:

Optimistic we can get three points from this one. Provided we start better than we did at Plymouth! 

And score more than Sunderland

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3 hours ago, FNQ said:

Good job as usual JB.. This will be a good test for us following our back to back wins, going for an optimistic 1-1 draw.

Jon Stead was another who played for us and the Maccuns..

And the late Tim Carter 

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1 hour ago, Hartleysbeard said:

Haha! Pretty sure that wasn’t the plan! Had Argyle taken any one of their numerous chances in that opening 20 mins, it could have been a different game. 

Apart from the back post volley by Whittaker I’m not sure they had any real chances.

They started well & had about 4 corners in the first 6 minutes but in truth they didn’t threaten very much at all.

Second half Whittaker had another shot that Max palmed away but that was it.

In reality it was a comfortable win.

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You would think after Mondays 5 - 1 hammering at home from Blackburn, the players will be up for it to regain some self respect, but if we get at them and maybe get a goal, you can see the fans turning and players self belief going

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32 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Apart from the back post volley by Whittaker I’m not sure they had any real chances.

They started well & had about 4 corners in the first 6 minutes but in truth they didn’t threaten very much at all.

Second half Whittaker had another shot that Max palmed away but that was it.

In reality it was a comfortable win.

Hardie on the break, on the angle, wide of the post.

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31 minutes ago, The Nest Egg said:

Was a really fun away day last year and the game itself was more interesting than the score would suggest. Hopefully more of the same, plus two more points!

Last season's game featured the incident I voted for as the Champagne Moment of last season. We got a bloody penalty!

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3 hours ago, ExiledAjax said:

It's a huge game in the battle for 12th place and a top-half finish. Something of a six-pointer in that regard.

Made this post as a bit of a joke, but we really are in this mid-table-mini-league. Maybe that's depressing, or tinpot, or whatever, but it's where we are.

I've included Hull and Swansea in the screenshot, but really they're acting as the bread in this gorgeous mid-table sandwich. It's really us, Sunderland, Watford, Cardiff who are the bacon, lettuce, tomato, and er...rogue slug(?) respectively.

 

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3 hours ago, phantom said:

Not completely true... have you seen some of the constant negative postings from some?

I have Phants and Owlstalk is one of if the worst for negativity. They could complain and whinge at international level. Much of their moans are because of where they are in the Championship having only just returned having spent a season in L1.

Otib would be exactly the same if City were in the same position as the Owls.

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12 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Made this post as a bit of a joke, but we really are in this mid-table-mini-league. Maybe that's depressing, or tinpot, or whatever, but it's where we are.

I've included Hull and Swansea in the screenshot, but really they're acting as the bread in this gorgeous mid-table sandwich. It's really us, Sunderland, Watford, Cardiff who are the bacon, lettuce, tomato, and er...rogue slug(?) respectively.

 

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It's that stage of the season where you make up your own competitions.

1. The Smiler - We make 5 more wins to 'storm' up to 10 place and wipe the smile from Liam Rosenior's face. Unfortunately, that smile is transferred to Jon and Brian's faces.

2. The F The Welsh - We finish above Cardiff and Swansea;

3. The Winner Winner Chicken (or Vegan) Dinner - The one where our wins exceed our losses;

4. The Symmetry - The one where our total wins and losses are the same;

5. The F Up/The  F The Welsh (Reprise) - We finish below both Cardiff and Swansea;

I'll get me coat.

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43 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said:

It's that stage of the season where you make up your own competitions.

1. The Smiler - We make 5 more wins to 'storm' up to 10 place and wipe the smile from Liam Rosenior's face. Unfortunately, that smile is transferred to Jon and Brian's faces.

2. The F The Welsh - We finish above Cardiff and Swansea;

3. The Winner Winner Chicken (or Vegan) Dinner - The one where our wins exceed our losses;

4. The Symmetry - The one where our total wins and losses are the same;

5. The F Up/The  F The Welsh (Reprise) - We finish below both Cardiff and Swansea;

I'll get me coat.

I'll take number 4 if with a side of 2 please.

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30 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said:

If we can beat Leicester and beat Plymouth, then we ought to be able to beat Sunderland.

That probably means that we are going to lose then.

Yeah after the last two wins Sunderland should be a breeze. But this is Bristol City so we will no doubt get spanked Saturday. 

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2 hours ago, ExiledAjax said:

Made this post as a bit of a joke, but we really are in this mid-table-mini-league. Maybe that's depressing, or tinpot, or whatever, but it's where we are.

I've included Hull and Swansea in the screenshot, but really they're acting as the bread in this gorgeous mid-table sandwich. It's really us, Sunderland, Watford, Cardiff who are the bacon, lettuce, tomato, and er...rogue slug(?) respectively.

 

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You know me, I like my one-game table, ie who can we catch, who can catch us this game-week.  So we sit 2nd in the 11-14th mini-league!

2 hours ago, GrahamC said:

Was that the one where Stroud missed a clear foul on Twine?

Mehmeti, yes.

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Obviously a win would be bloody lovely and scoring first would really mess with their northern heads, but I think a draw is a good result. 

At this stage of the season a 4-4 draw would be fine!

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52 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

You know me, I like my one-game table, ie who can we catch, who can catch us this game-week.  So we sit 2nd in the 11-14th mini-league!

And with Watford home to PNE, and Cardiff home to Hull, it's quite the mid-table melee tomorrow.

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20 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Wow, you be hugely uninspired as a player, listening to that.

Not so sure about that Dave - Dodds is/was rightly pissed right off with his team’s performance against Blackburn and has made it perfectly clear to them what his views are. The players know how disappointing their performance was and were expecting such a response from the head coach and that’s what they got - whether his way of dealing with such an embarrassing loss was the right approach we’ll find out tomorrow. 

Had I been one of those players I’d have known how crap we were as a team but would have given at least some credit to the opposition who took advantage of us - that’s something Dodds didn’t mention. I mean how good were Blackburn?

If City can bag an early goal tomorrow then that’ll hopefully have a negative effect on them and they crumble again.

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55 minutes ago, Sir Colby-Tit said:

I've been to the Stadium of Light once. Soren Andersen got a late equaliser I think. Which was nice.

Was it Keith Welch had a blinder that night? 

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4 hours ago, ExiledAjax said:

Made this post as a bit of a joke, but we really are in this mid-table-mini-league. Maybe that's depressing, or tinpot, or whatever, but it's where we are.

I've included Hull and Swansea in the screenshot, but really they're acting as the bread in this gorgeous mid-table sandwich. It's really us, Sunderland, Watford, Cardiff who are the bacon, lettuce, tomato, and er...rogue slug(?) respectively.

 

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Otherwise known as a sh@t sandwich 🥪 💩 🤣

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2 hours ago, Jerseybean said:

Interesting interview. We could really be up against a side of players seeking redemption which could see us right up against it. But if we can weather the initial storm and get that first goal they might well implode. I fancy us to pull this one off 

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The fan’s museum just after you walk over the bridge is worth visiting. It’s a bit of a shrine to Roker Park, but situated in a neo-classical former railway station that some might say is more grand than our ground. (And definitely more classy than gas ground.) Looks like you can drink beer there on a match day.

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2 hours ago, Totterdown's Finest said:

I think it was the only City attack in the most one-sided draw ever!

Matt Hewlett blatantly handled the ball as well but the ref didn’t see it - it certainly was the most one-sided 1-1  draw. City dodged a bullet there.

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5 hours ago, Sir Colby-Tit said:

I've been to the Stadium of Light once. Soren Andersen got a late equaliser I think. Which was nice.

Signed three when we needed two. 

And Soren Andersen was the best. And cheapest.

 

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11 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Wow, you be hugely uninspired as a player, listening to that.

Well he did say that he came from the same school as our head coach so no surprises really..

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4 minutes ago, Woofyourkipper said:

Sat in T5 Heathrow now waiting for flight 

2-1 city

uredzzzzzzz

Well if things don’t go to plan, try your best not to Booourskipper.. 😢👍

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12 hours ago, Sir Colby-Tit said:

I've been to the Stadium of Light once. Soren Andersen got a late equaliser I think. Which was nice.

The most one sided game your likely to see , got absolutely battered then soren pops up with that beauty 😂😂

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Personally I’m looking for some sort of consistency in our performances , obviously want us to win it but would deffo take a good performance draw with a style of play , 

thought tactically we got it right against Leicester and the Plymouth game despite a few on here having kittens the first 20 mins when we’re under the cosh a little ( that was always going to happen in my eyes ) so today a team lacking confidence and what can be a toxic crowd sometimes I would like us to try and take control of the game , think the first 10-15 might be a bit sticky as I would thought there would be some sort of reaction to there 5-1 loss last week .

big game for me as hopefully we can build on the last 2 and try ( TRY ) to get some positivity moving forward but if we morph back into a poor lasklustre performance the knives will be out for him again big time 

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18 hours ago, GrahamC said:

Apart from the back post volley by Whittaker I’m not sure they had any real chances.

They started well & had about 4 corners in the first 6 minutes but in truth they didn’t threaten very much at all.

Second half Whittaker had another shot that Max palmed away but that was it.

In reality it was a comfortable win.

I think they got into some great positions in that opening 20 mins, in which had they chosen a better final pass or taken a shot (wow they were reluctant to shoot at times!) they might well have scored. 

I agree that after than point it was comfortable and looked like there would only be one winner. 

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43 minutes ago, redkev said:

Personally I’m looking for some sort of consistency in our performances , obviously want us to win it but would deffo take a good performance draw with a style of play , 

thought tactically we got it right against Leicester and the Plymouth game despite a few on here having kittens the first 20 mins when we’re under the cosh a little ( that was always going to happen in my eyes ) so today a team lacking confidence and what can be a toxic crowd sometimes I would like us to try and take control of the game , think the first 10-15 might be a bit sticky as I would thought there would be some sort of reaction to there 5-1 loss last week .

big game for me as hopefully we can build on the last 2 and try ( TRY ) to get some positivity moving forward but if we morph back into a poor lasklustre performance the knives will be out for him again big time 

To be honest a point each from the next two games would be decent , Sunderland a wounded animal and not as  bad as the last result ( won 2-0 at Cardiff game before ) and Blackburn hot at present 

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