mozo Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 2 hours ago, Davefevs said: I think what it highlights is a potentially a big disconnect between BT and LM in terms of understand what they truly wanted, what they truly thought they were getting, and what they actually got. Unless you use bespoke examples of James and King, or Twine for Manning, then recruitment isn’t “Pearson” or “Manning” it’s a process / collective based on what’s needed and when against a profile / strategy. It’s just an easy excuse to say they’re x’s players, or they’re not y’s players. As for “sustained attacks and pretty patterns”, there’s been very little evidence of such. All I did was quote Brian Tinnion. So it’s not me you need to accuse of being incorrect. But if you are seeing those sustained attack and pretty patterns, then it proves he doesn’t need “his players”. So which is it? The truth is, we've seen sustained attack and pretty patterns at times in spells but not enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 (edited) 6 minutes ago, mozo said: The truth is, we've seen sustained attack and pretty patterns at times in spells but not enough. That’s a contradiction (oxymoron?). (no comment offered on “the truth is”) Edited April 8 by Davefevs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 18 minutes ago, Davefevs said: That’s a contradiction (oxymoron?). (no comment offered on “the truth is”) It's not an oxymoron, because it's impossible to sustain an attack for a whole game! Sustained attacks always come in spells! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 (edited) 6 hours ago, BCFC31 said: O'dowda didn't go to crystal Palace? and freddie also never played for watford..... mate are you alright or what You might be a little slow here sir; you made a point about the Sunderland player being very good based off of 60 minutes game time. I tried to highlight O’Dowdas good goal (and game) against Palace; and similar for Hines/Watford to showcase that one swallow doesn’t make a summer, aka one good performance doesn’t make a player. Apologies if I articulated my thoughts poorly. Edited April 8 by Unan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 (edited) . Edited April 8 by Unan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 8 hours ago, Unan said: You might be a little slow here sir; you made a point about the Sunderland player being very good based off of 60 minutes game time. I tried to highlight O’Dowdas good goal (and game) against Palace; and similar for Hines/Watford to showcase that one swallow doesn’t make a summer, aka one good performance doesn’t make a player. Apologies if I articulated my thoughts poorly. O Dowdas good goal and performance was away at Norwich unless he had 2 good games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 (edited) 21 hours ago, Kibs said: The use of Top 6 / Promotion quotes do crack me up. If JL/BT told you to jump off a cliff because it’s good for your health, would you do it? Or would you use your brain and reach your own conclusion? Our squad is weaker this season than last season IMO, certainly not stronger! Alex Scott was never adequately replaced, Antoine Semenyo was never adequately replaced - why on earth anyone feels we should even be competing for a Top 6 spot, regardless of the manager……I just cannot subscribe to that view. I could just never see where the creativity and goals would come from. Had NP been given the opportunity to use the Alex Scott money, I think we could potentially have had a bit of a go, but the second that was denied, I could never see us being anything more than mid-table. No offence but I don’t think that is good analogy at all. No one is on here moaning about “Lansdown said we were getting promoted and now we aren’t, I want my promotion they promised” No one is complaining because we aren’t getting promoted this season. No one is saying that’s what they expected. It’s the club talking about promotion. 99% knew it was unrealistic. The issue for me is the disconnect between what they say and the reality. Why do they say it? Does that matter? That’s the whole debate, should they be held accountable for their comments? I suppose it depends on what you think of their role as stewards of the club? Is Bristol City there simply to exist or to genuinely strive to get as far up the pyramid as possible? I think when the club say one thing and do another they open themselves up to criticism and I think it’s fair for fans to ask those questions about the methodology - especially if the aim is more than simply ‘existing’ Edited April 9 by Alessandro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted April 9 Admin Share Posted April 9 22 hours ago, Superjack said: I don't know how you can guess that it is Pearson's squad when he was denied the money to complete it. Money that I will bet you a pound to a penny will be thrown at Manning when things start to go tits up. OK, let's put it another way. How many of the squad we currently had were brought in by Pearson and how many by Manning? Odd how every other Manager is given a period of X number of transfer windows before it is recognised as being "their squad" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 On 06/04/2024 at 22:58, Ashtongreight said: Equally it’s not a criticism of Nige either, and as we’ve already established our defensive record was better under NP than it is under LM what was the point of the change? I get we are where we are, but as of yet LM hasn’t demonstrated he’s the man to take us forward, not to me at least. To be fair...........NP and LM's defensive records are very similar.......it is just scoring goals that is the ongoing problem? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 3 hours ago, phantom said: OK, let's put it another way. How many of the squad we currently had were brought in by Pearson and how many by Manning? Odd how every other Manager is given a period of X number of transfer windows before it is recognised as being "their squad" Probably because it was stated that Manning was brought in to get more out of the current one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC31 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 (edited) On 09/04/2024 at 00:36, Unan said: You might be a little slow here sir; you made a point about the Sunderland player being very good based off of 60 minutes game time. I tried to highlight O’Dowdas good goal (and game) against Palace; and similar for Hines/Watford to showcase that one swallow doesn’t make a summer, aka one good performance doesn’t make a player. Apologies if I articulated my thoughts poorly. Not slow mate personally I just think your chatting shit. Edited April 10 by BCFC31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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