Rotherham last game

[phantom]

1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Well Jerry said on the SLO bit that the SAG had mandated 3.4k or thereabouts.

I'm not saying I want to give away sides 4k, far from it- I've posted in the past that we are too accommodating IMO, more that tbis is a draconian overkill given that they are separate and distinct stands...have the club sought to push back here where possible.

It also doesn't augur well presumably for e.g. filling in the corners.

SAG in response to the Welsh teams is a very likely assumption to make considering they are the only sides to have consistently caused issues

Personally I would get as many away fans in the Atyeo as we can, we make more money and as proven this season the larger away following has actually worked in our favour with both performances and results

Personally I am not honestly bothered about it, there are many other things to address and worry about than how many seats away fans will be allocated and who made that decision.

It's obvious the club would have addressed the decision as lower numbers of away fans means less gate receipts and money spent on the day of the game

[Mr Popodopolous]

15 minutes ago, phantom said:

SAG in response to the Welsh teams is a very likely assumption to make considering they are the only sides to have consistently caused issues

Personally I would get as many away fans in the Atyeo as we can, we make more money and as proven this season the larger away following has actually worked in our favour with both performances and results

Personally I am not honestly bothered about it, there are many other things to address and worry about than how many seats away fans will be allocated and who made that decision.

It's obvious the club would have addressed the decision as lower numbers of away fans means less gate receipts and money spent on the day of the game

It genuinely feels like these are undue restrictions tbh. I get restrictions given the particular rivalry vs Cardiff and Swansea.

I think the jury is out..albeit there are some good arguments off the top of my head ie Plymouth, West Ham, Nottingham Forest, Southampton, Leicester, all big away followings, all good stuff. Making a stadium a fortress, feeling like you're at Home feels important to me anyway..Birmingham in August a good example. Leeds were very good at AG, possibly the best side we've faced this season at Home but they were backed prominently too.

It's about accountability too really. There Is little from the club or in particular the SAG.

I think away fans in a prominent well backed position absolutely can hand them a marginal gain. Shouldn't need much segregation, if you look at other clubs a line or 2 of stewards and where appropriate police does it albeit the latter can cost. That would offset some of the reduction in away fans and in any event it is only some games where it may affect materially..Some sides don't bring that many at all so if capped at 2k or so...maybe no major drop.

Edited April 17 by Mr Popodopolous

[phantom]

13 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

It genuinely feels like these are undue restrictions tbh. I get restrictions given the particular rivalry vs Cardiff and Swansea.

I think the jury is out..albeit there are some good arguments off the top of my head ie Plymouth, West Ham, Nottingham Forest, Southampton, Leicester, all big away followings, all good stuff. Making a stadium a fortress, feeling like you're at Home feels important to me anyway..Birmingham in August a good example. Leeds were very good at AG, possibly the best side we've faced this season at Home but they were backed prominently too.

It's about accountability too really. There Is little from the club or in particular the SAG.

I think away fans in a prominent well backed position absolutely can hand them a marginal gain. Shouldn't need much segregation, if you look at other clubs a line or 2 of stewards and where appropriate police does it albeit the latter can cost. That would offset some of the reduction in away fans and in any event it is only some games where it may affect materially..Some sides don't bring that many at all so if capped at 2k or so...maybe no major drop.

I agree that it seems unfair to restrict everyone because of the behaviour of one or two clubs, and within them it is no doubt only a small percentage of their following.

I'm not sure what accountability you feel you deserve from the club, or why? It is not their decision so unsure what you want them to come out and say? IT you want to hear from the SAG that badly you should contact them and see what they come back with. Though I know a FOI request many years ago sent into them about something else was constantly fobbed off without being answered - though SAGs from other areas did reply with full details to the requests.

Off the top of my head I can only think of Reading that decided to cut the away allocation at their ground and look how their home form and crowds etc have nosedived since 

I guess it is all about opinions but the season there has definitely not been any advantage to the away sides due to a larger following, lets be honest Leeds were steamrolling everyone they played at the time we met them

You may be surprised too that from discussions with fans groups there is no interest from any of them to relocate to the Atyeo in the near future, and unless we were selling out consistently I see no reason to even consider it

For a ballpark figure with ticket sales and on the day purchase in the ground we made approx £100k from Leicester visiting the other week, why would anyone want to turn down money like that to limit to 2k for no reason?

[Natchfever]

15 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

In respect of the Atyeo and possible splitting it. This is just an opinion nothing more albeit as I expected.. 

The Atyeo holds 3,414, seemingly at the behest of the SAG- thank you to @JerrySLO for confirming both the capacity and the reason.

We appear to have lost some 600-800 or close to in capacity pretty much unannounced. Not that I wish to give away fans 4k or so but given that there are separate stands this is fairly disgraceful overkill, no?

At th behest of the secretive know nothings who decide it all. I hope the club push back at least internally in so far as is possible.

Assuming that 3,414 is indeed the max for football, 2k..but what sort of segregation would they want if stadium capacity reduced by 2-3% and indeed stand capacity by some 15-20% for no discernible reason.

Is this the case at other grounds? A light needs shining on these bastards.. jumped-up, unaccountable.

I see so many matches with fans sitting right up to the pitchside with rivals separated by a few feet.

Not making any part of the Atyeo available does tend to push people towards the pricier stands which im guessing is the clubs aim.

[phantom]

1 minute ago, Natchfever said:

I see so many matches with fans sitting right up to the pitchside with rivals separated by a few feet.

Not making any part of the Atyeo available does tend to push people towards the pricier stands which im guessing is the clubs aim.

Which of course from next season will see tickets available again for the cheaper South Stand 

[Natchfever]

22 minutes ago, phantom said:

I agree that it seems unfair to restrict everyone because of the behaviour of one or two clubs, and within them it is no doubt only a small percentage of their following.

I'm not sure what accountability you feel you deserve from the club, or why? It is not their decision so unsure what you want them to come out and say? IT you want to hear from the SAG that badly you should contact them and see what they come back with. Though I know a FOI request many years ago sent into them about something else was constantly fobbed off without being answered - though SAGs from other areas did reply with full details to the requests.

Off the top of my head I can only think of Reading that decided to cut the away allocation at their ground and look how their home form and crowds etc have nosedived since 

I guess it is all about opinions but the season there has definitely not been any advantage to the away sides due to a larger following, lets be honest Leeds were steamrolling everyone they played at the time we met them

You may be surprised too that from discussions with fans groups there is no interest from any of them to relocate to the Atyeo in the near future, and unless we were selling out consistently I see no reason to even consider it

For a ballpark figure with ticket sales and on the day purchase in the ground we made approx £100k from Leicester visiting the other week, why would anyone want to turn down money like that to limit to 2k for no reason?

Not every club fills the Atyeo, and I imagine most City fans have no knowledge or interest in fans groups.

I know a fair few who would use the Atyeo if available.

Take your point about Leicester of course plus a number of other clubs.

[Natchfever]

1 minute ago, phantom said:

Which of course from next season will see tickets available again for the cheaper South Stand 

Think the Atyeo should be chaper still though in view of isolation and facilities compared to the South.

Also shoukd be unallocated imo which isbt an option in the south.

[Mr Popodopolous]

3 hours ago, phantom said:

I agree that it seems unfair to restrict everyone because of the behaviour of one or two clubs, and within them it is no doubt only a small percentage of their following.

I'm not sure what accountability you feel you deserve from the club, or why? It is not their decision so unsure what you want them to come out and say? IT you want to hear from the SAG that badly you should contact them and see what they come back with. Though I know a FOI request many years ago sent into them about something else was constantly fobbed off without being answered - though SAGs from other areas did reply with full details to the requests.

Off the top of my head I can only think of Reading that decided to cut the away allocation at their ground and look how their home form and crowds etc have nosedived since 

I guess it is all about opinions but the season there has definitely not been any advantage to the away sides due to a larger following, lets be honest Leeds were steamrolling everyone they played at the time we met them

You may be surprised too that from discussions with fans groups there is no interest from any of them to relocate to the Atyeo in the near future, and unless we were selling out consistently I see no reason to even consider it

For a ballpark figure with ticket sales and on the day purchase in the ground we made approx £100k from Leicester visiting the other week, why would anyone want to turn down money like that to limit to 2k for no reason?

The capacity has been reduced by stealth pretty much by 15-20% of that stand. That is the starting point here.

Perhaps not the Club then although perhaps they could come out and explain certain matters.. but the SAG are  a public body, they are beyond a disgrace really. The club have to try and push back, maybe they are vs these overbearing secretive individuals.

Reading have and have had significant off pitch issues, 6 point deduction x 3 Business Plan..don't think they paid a few for 3 if not 4 years.

Birmingham give 2k, WBA gave us 2k this year iirc. There is an element of Home Advantage and there is an element of reciprocation.

Agree on the Leeds point. They did so for about 15 games or something approaching. Only now have They stalled a bit for the first time since late December.

That surprises me, offering a whole end to away fans feels an undoubted advantage. Could offer first refusal to transfer for certain games to ST Holders.

Hull owner said just lately something about his goalkeeper in relation to location of the away fans.

It sort of computes out over the season though. In games where lesser away followings may arise, you can have some in a Home last of the Atyeo which brings both costs and  benefits.

[redkev]

6 hours ago, Numero Uno said:

It changes the dynamics of the game for Max and our two centre halves..................

We have centre halves

6 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

They are a shower of shit clearly the SAG.

Unaccountable *******. 

Sounds like Bristol city council 

[Mr Popodopolous]

3 hours ago, Natchfever said:

I see so many matches with fans sitting right up to the pitchside with rivals separated by a few feet.

Not making any part of the Atyeo available does tend to push people towards the pricier stands which im guessing is the clubs aim.

Agreed. It truly baffles me as to why there is such overkill when there are stands separated ie the Atyeo isn't joined up to the other side. While the SAG may have imposed it, possibly the club aren't too vigorously opposed but I could be wrong.

A key reason it kicked off v Swansea was incompetent and or significantly undermanned stewarding and police in that corner pre kick off. A key there is to simply steward and police it correctly.

That could be it yeah. I just think from a competitive advantage perspective you won't the away fans as far as possible from the pitch and in reasonably moderate numbers..in as unprominent a position as possible.

Flexibility is okay- ones who give us a generous allocation you can make an argument for that, the City allocation could flex depending on away fans ie if they bring 1k we can up it by 1k less segregation.

There are a range of ways to look into it but the current setup just feels wrong to me.

[Mr Popodopolous]

2 minutes ago, redkev said:

Sounds like Bristol city council 

Ha I'd say so..That is the exact term someone I know who had dealings with the Council used to describe them.

Edited April 17 by Mr Popodopolous

[CiderJar]

On 11/04/2024 at 08:41, JackofromSanJavier said:

I remember the fans that did travel down South to the Gate waited until the very end (they'd long been relegated) to applaud their side, then they were impressively supportive of our lads as they did their lap of honour too.  I have a lot of respect for Rotherham fans after that day.  Plus, they seem to accept their lot without much fuss……..unlike those delusional sorts over at the stolen rugby ground. 

My brother, @RedYoshi was in the away end, along with many other City fans who couldnt get tickets in the home end.

[phantom]

1 hour ago, CiderJar said:

My brother, @RedYoshi was in the away end, along with many other City fans who couldnt get tickets in the home end.

Did well getting tickets for the Rotherham section, didn't they have less than 300 tickets? 

I'm the flip side of the comment above, yes they were respectful that day but they've been a vile bunch at their place over the years 

Certain incidents won't be discussed on an open forum like this but they crossed the line badly not that long ago, those that were in the pub that afternoon will remember 

[mightyreds89]

Just looking at ticketing site there are as follows,

 

Lansdown 381 left across entire stand.

Dolman 91 seats.

South Stand no availability 

So just over 470 home tickets left.

if I was the club I’d try and open up the Atyeo £1 a kid and £15 for an adult. As a season ticket holder making cheap tickets available for this end of season match wouldn’t bother me. Could get 2-3k in there as well as some free school tickets. 
 

as last game I’d imagine a lot of SS season ticket holders who pick and chose are more likely to attend given last game of season etc. 

 

[phantom]

7 hours ago, mightyreds89 said:

Just looking at ticketing site there are as follows,

 

Lansdown 381 left across entire stand.

Dolman 91 seats.

South Stand no availability 

So just over 470 home tickets left.

if I was the club I’d try and open up the Atyeo £1 a kid and £15 for an adult. As a season ticket holder making cheap tickets available for this end of season match wouldn’t bother me. Could get 2-3k in there as well as some free school tickets. 
 

as last game I’d imagine a lot of SS season ticket holders who pick and chose are more likely to attend given last game of season etc. 

 

I don't want to appear to be negative here, but like previously mentioned you are only counting the tickets currently available for sale 

As the Leicester fixture demonstrated there are hundreds more tickets that could be released if demand dictated and if sales are that high we'll see being released shortly. 

You mention kids for £1, we're already doing that offer that day 

The other point if an area of the Atyeo is sold cheaper, we'd have to not only offer the same price to Rotherham but also we'd have to match it in the South Stand 

On a completely different note, it's interesting to see demand as high as this for a complete dead rubber of a game and also that so many people consistently say "Manning ball" is so boring etc

[Clutton Caveman]

On 11/04/2024 at 16:59, BrizzleRed said:

I’ve made no secret that I’ve got little time for the Lansdown’s or Tinnion, especially after recent events.  

I well remember Tinnion commenting after getting the Manager post that he ‘knew what fans wanted and would be working towards that’, or words to that effect.  With the current lack of involvement by the SLO, someone at the club needs to make the effort to show they actually want to engage with the fanbase, rather than treat us as outsiders and largely irrelevant.

This would now be a chance for Tinnion to walk the walk and actually prove how well he really does know the fanbase and start bringing some very disconnected fans back on board.

As you say, regarding the Atyeo, there could be issues with FA cup games, though we aren’t usually in that competition for long anyway!

Potential safe standing at the back of the SS is another subject that should come into play, particularly with the changes around no more new ST’s being allowed in that stand.  Potential to introduce some safe standing would also provide some justification for those ST changes.  It would also help foster the home advantage and atmosphere.

It would be nice to see these things now being treated with some importance, rather than some tentative meetings that could drag on for ages before any decisions are made.

Get our singing section out of that bloody corner

[Topper 123]

6 hours ago, phantom said:

I don't want to appear to be negative here, but like previously mentioned you are only counting the tickets currently available for sale 

As the Leicester fixture demonstrated there are hundreds more tickets that could be released if demand dictated and if sales are that high we'll see being released shortly. 

You mention kids for £1, we're already doing that offer that day 

The other point if an area of the Atyeo is sold cheaper, we'd have to not only offer the same price to Rotherham but also we'd have to match it in the South Stand 

On a completely different note, it's interesting to see demand as high as this for a complete dead rubber of a game and also that so many people consistently say "Manning ball" is so boring etc

The only tickets available other than on our site are the complimentary tickets that don’t get taken up at last minute and restricted views , Bristol City do not hold batches of tickets back WHY WOULD THEY 

[BrizzleRed]

2 hours ago, Clutton Caveman said:

Get our singing section out of that bloody corner

Bloody right, I bet the visiting fans laugh their heads off seeing that.

Fortress Ashton Gate my arse and don’t reckon it’s any coincidence that our home record has been crap for years.

Don’t think the one at the top wants the Gate to be intimidating, we’ve got to just sit down and be nice and quiet.  He wouldn’t want any of that partizan nonsense!!!

[ollywhyte]

If its mandated by the SAG that we HAVE cover 800 or so seats in the Atyeo anyway, why not cover them with segregation vertically and force away fans to the left hand side of the stand?

Reduce the max away following to say 2k and then release the 1.5k or so spare seats on an unallocated basis to home fans. Far to accommodating to away fans as it is. 

[phantom]

1 hour ago, Topper 123 said:

The only tickets available other than on our site are the complimentary tickets that don’t get taken up at last minute and restricted views , Bristol City do not hold batches of tickets back WHY WOULD THEY 

I assume you realise we have been doing exactly this for years?

Have a look at the sales for the Leicester game where extra sections (not just corporate) became available

3 hours ago, Clutton Caveman said:

Get our singing section out of that bloody corner

Do they want to move?

21 minutes ago, ollywhyte said:

Reduce the max away following to say 2k and then release the 1.5k or so spare seats on an unallocated basis to home fans. Far to accommodating to away fans as it is. 

Where are those extra supporters coming from?

[Sleepy1968]

4 hours ago, Clutton Caveman said:

Get our singing section out of that bloody corner

There's the issue right there. 'Singing section'. What prevents people signing around the rest of the ground, and why is it so quiet in general. Phones and no shows are an issue, but all this should be spontaneous.

Edited April 18 by Sleepy1968

[Mr Popodopolous]

1 hour ago, BrizzleRed said:

Bloody right, I bet the visiting fans laugh their heads off seeing that.

Fortress Ashton Gate my arse and don’t reckon it’s any coincidence that our home record has been crap for years.

Don’t think the one at the top wants the Gate to be intimidating, we’ve got to just sit down and be nice and quiet.  He wouldn’t want any of that partizan nonsense!!!

Home Record has actually been okay this year however the wider point that you make I tend to agree..

1 hour ago, ollywhyte said:

If its mandated by the SAG that we HAVE cover 800 or so seats in the Atyeo anyway, why not cover them with segregation vertically and force away fans to the left hand side of the stand?

Reduce the max away following to say 2k and then release the 1.5k or so spare seats on an unallocated basis to home fans. Far to accommodating to away fans as it is. 

It is ridiculous and seems to have been imposed by stealth..should such a move not have been announced and it publicised. I don't recall.

2k to away.

Less segregation

Remaining Home Fans.

How big is the segregation- how wide should it be 

The other issue of course is the FA Cup- this mandates up to 15% of capacity to away sides so we would have to rework it for this.

[Mr Popodopolous]

20 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said:

There's the issue right there. 'Singing section'. What prevents people signing around the rest of the ground, and why is it so quiet in general. Phones and no shows are an issue, but all this should be spontaneous.

I refuse to call it a "Singing Section" but typically standing fans are more likely to sing, chant etc. Seated bit more sedentary  less so.

The location and size of the Safe Standing area feels too low to me..a bigger and more prominent one could see the atmosphere spread a bit further. More people singing,  more might join in.

[Natchfever]

1 hour ago, Sleepy1968 said:

There's the issue right there. 'Singing section'. What prevents people signing around the rest of the ground, and why is it so quiet in general. Phones and no shows are an issue, but all this should be spontaneous.

Because of allocated seating groups of friends are split up all over the ground.

I agree "singing section" sounds lame but its all there is.

Lastly, its generally quiet because the football is and has been generally shite for ages.

[Topper 123]

18 hours ago, phantom said:

I assume you realise we have been doing exactly this for years?

Have a look at the sales for the Leicester game where extra sections (not just corporate) became available

Do they want to move?

Where are those extra supporters coming from?

Why would we have been doing it for years our crowds have never been near to sell outs before ?

[phantom]

11 minutes ago, Topper 123 said:

Why would we have been doing it for years our crowds have never been near to sell outs before ?

Exactly, they are never released for sale

If you look it is the same gaps in specific parts of the stadium over time

[Bristol Oil Services]

18 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

I refuse to call it a "Singing Section" but typically standing fans are more likely to sing, chant etc. Seated bit more sedentary  less so.

The location and size of the Safe Standing area feels too low to me..a bigger and more prominent one could see the atmosphere spread a bit further. More people singing,  more might join in.

Try calling it a "Sing when we're winning (but not always even then) section,"

[JBFC II]

All but sold out now, too late for them to put any of the Atyeo on sale I'd imagine.

Let's hope as many ST holders turn up for this one, over 22k home fans after the inconsistent season we've had is very impressive!

[phantom]

14 minutes ago, JBFC II said:

All but sold out now, too late for them to put any of the Atyeo on sale I'd imagine.

Let's hope as many ST holders turn up for this one, over 22k home fans after the inconsistent season we've had is very impressive!

Will be interesting to see how many central lower Lansdown tickets become available now. 

Just under 250 corporate tickets for sale 

[Swede]

That's pretty impressive for a nothing game considering the change of direction made by the club mid season and the mid table finish. I'm really looking forward to the game and it would be great to sign off this season at home with a high energy performance and a win. The already relegated Millers have nothing to play for now so should be entertaining.

[TDarwall]

I think we're in for a disappointing day. Steve Evans is the sort of manager whose style we often struggle against & I expect them to be incredibly obdurate. Aligned to that thr players will be aiming to impress the new boss.

An early goal would change the dynamic entirely but I can see it being pretty drab otherwise as they will see 0-0 as a moral victory.

[Bazooka Joe]

On 18/04/2024 at 16:28, Sleepy1968 said:

There's the issue right there. 'Singing section'. What prevents people signing around the rest of the ground, and why is it so quiet in general. Phones and no shows are an issue, but all this should be spontaneous.

“You only sing when you’re …..

 

in the Singing Section”

[GrahamC]

6 hours ago, TDarwall said:

I think we're in for a disappointing day. Steve Evans is the sort of manager whose style we often struggle against & I expect them to be incredibly obdurate. Aligned to that thr players will be aiming to impress the new boss.

An early goal would change the dynamic entirely but I can see it being pretty drab otherwise as they will see 0-0 as a moral victory.

Agree, his first game in charge was a 0-0 draw v Birmingham, which by the standards of their season is probably one of the highlights.

The ball is going to be in the air an awful lot when they have it & Evans is out of the Warnock school of low possession, loads of time wasting managers.

Not expecting too much in truth.

[elhombrecito]

Strange that this is sold out on the ticketing website, but City have posted nothing about it (unless I've missed it). Normally they're all over a sell out.

[JBFC II]

4 minutes ago, elhombrecito said:

Strange that this is sold out on the ticketing website, but City have posted nothing about it (unless I've missed it). Normally they're all over a sell out.

They've released a load of unsold hospitality tickets for general sale.

Probably waiting for those to go before announcing anything

[Mike Stone]

4 hours ago, JBFC II said:

They've released a load of unsold hospitality tickets for general sale.

Probably waiting for those to go before announcing anything

So the official site has now gone to sold out again.

Will more seats be found in the horse shoe to be put on sale tomorrow or will the Atyeo be opened!

 

[redkev]

On 24/04/2024 at 19:43, JBFC II said:

All but sold out now, too late for them to put any of the Atyeo on sale I'd imagine.

Let's hope as many ST holders turn up for this one, over 22k home fans after the inconsistent season we've had is very impressive!

Personally I think the support ( wether it be quiet or noisy at home ) has been pretty decent seeing the rather unpopular change of manager and the huge inconsistency in performances this season , as for away support think this season it has been superb I think if o remember correctly before Xmas we sold out at many of the games , also taking 9,000 to West Ham and 2,200 to Forest and not just turning up in numbered but making a right racket so well done to all those who travel away regularly , Wouldn’t surprise me if we take 1500 to Stoke for a nothing game aswell , for anyone who’s never been then before dress as if it’s deepest winter always bloody freezing when I’ve been there which is about 5 times 

[phantom]

48 minutes ago, Mike Stone said:

So the official site has now gone to sold out again.

Will more seats be found in the horse shoe to be put on sale tomorrow or will the Atyeo be opened!

 

Already confirmed the Atyeo isn't being used 

[Mike Stone]

3 minutes ago, phantom said:

Already confirmed the Atyeo isn't being used 

Something else ive missed then, i now know how Bas Savages used to feel.

Shame really as there will be people who would of left it late and will now miss out,  Combine this with the empty seats where season ticket holders dont turn up its a potential loss of further sales.

Never mind

[phantom]

11 hours ago, Mike Stone said:

Something else ive missed then, i now know how Bas Savages used to feel.

Shame really as there will be people who would of left it late and will now miss out,  Combine this with the empty seats where season ticket holders dont turn up its a potential loss of further sales.

Never mind

To be fair it was in the Gavin Marshall interview on the Forever Bristol City podcast, the club have not released any comms on the subject

It is odd that they have not acknowledged the game being sold out either

[Redrascal2]

On 25/04/2024 at 15:35, GrahamC said:

Agree, his first game in charge was a 0-0 draw v Birmingham, which by the standards of their season is probably one of the highlights.

The ball is going to be in the air an awful lot when they have it & Evans is out of the Warnock school of low possession, loads of time wasting managers.

Not expecting too much in truth.

Whatever school of managers he is from, to get Stevenage up and around the playoffs in league is one hell of an achievement. 

[Rocking Red Cyril]

On 18/04/2024 at 16:49, Mr Popodopolous said:

Home Record has actually been okay this year however the wider point that you make I tend to agree..

It is ridiculous and seems to have been imposed by stealth..should such a move not have been announced and it publicised. I don't recall.

2k to away.

Less segregation

Remaining Home Fans.

How big is the segregation- how wide should it be 

The other issue of course is the FA Cup- this mandates up to 15% of capacity to away sides so we would have to rework it for this.

How difficult would it really be to work segregation changes for differing away fan allowance between league and FA cup games. I cannot believe it would be that difficult. The club just need to be willing to make the effort 

[1960maaan]

10 hours ago, Rocking Red Cyril said:

How difficult would it really be to work segregation changes for differing away fan allowance between league and FA cup games. I cannot believe it would be that difficult. The club just need to be willing to make the effort 

I think it could be the Concourse that's the main issue. That said there are always work arounds .
Big away following isn't the problem. When you get 1000 in a 3,500 stand is when you lose money , or potential money. The balance is spend Vs gain . How many times a year do we get small followings for a game that would sell out ? 

They could probably put in a movable wall for segregating the Concourse, but it has to be cost effective , they wont do anything just for fun or atmosphere.

[Rocking Red Cyril]

8 hours ago, 1960maaan said:

I think it could be the Concourse that's the main issue. That said there are always work arounds .
Big away following isn't the problem. When you get 1000 in a 3,500 stand is when you lose money , or potential money. The balance is spend Vs gain . How many times a year do we get small followings for a game that would sell out ? 

They could probably put in a movable wall for segregating the Concourse, but it has to be cost effective , they wont do anything just for fun or atmosphere.

Run by bloody accountants again