Popular Post BS3_RED Posted April 13 Popular Post Share Posted April 13 (edited) No, not the team. The ref. I thought she pretty much got every call correct. She was certainly one of the best we have had this season. Edited April 13 by BS3_RED 36 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totterdown's Finest Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 17 minutes ago, BS3_RED said: No, not the team. The ref. I thought she pretty much got every call correct. She was certainly one of the best we have had this season. Agreed. I have a sneaking suspicion our visitors might not think so! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kid in the Riot Posted April 13 Popular Post Share Posted April 13 But she's never played men's professional football so she can't be any good at her job. It's impossible. This is just the woke Marxist commie Trotsky Gary Lineker led anti-Brexit BBC infiltrating mid-table Championship football. And I for one am FUMING. 4 30 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 She was good. Noticeable to me anyway how players seem to be slightly more respectful to her. Could be that was just as she got most things right I guess. Not sure about the pen mind 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laner Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 2 minutes ago, Totterdown's Finest said: Agreed. I have a sneaking suspicion our visitors might not think so! You'd be correct. Just take a look at their forum. But no complaints, better than many refs we've had this season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 3 minutes ago, Totterdown's Finest said: Agreed. I have a sneaking suspicion our visitors might not think so! Think some of Huddersfield's bench could be in trouble if she reports them for having a go at her as she left the pitch, lots of shouting and fingers in her face. Not nice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 5 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: But she's never played men's professional football so she can't be any good at her job. It's impossible. This is just the woke Marxist commie Trotsky Gary Lineker led anti-Brexit BBC infiltrating mid-table Championship football. And I for one am FUMING. You forgot she had a nice arse 2 7 2 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Since when does getting the ball kicked in your stomach warrant stopping the game and the ball being returned to you from the opposition for you to to restart the game unopposed?? ******* joke 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 26 minutes ago, BS3_RED said: No, not the team. The ref. I thought she pretty much got every call correct. She was certainly one of the best we have had this season. Anything that annoys Joey Barton is good in my book 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 I thought there were a couple of times where we were dispossessed in own half and luckily got a free kick from minimal if any contact. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 2 minutes ago, RedM said: Think some of Huddersfield's bench could be in trouble if she reports them for having a go at her as she left the pitch, lots of shouting and fingers in her face. Not nice. Maybe invitations for dinner in a Northern kind of way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellist Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 5 minutes ago, Bobbie said: Since when does getting the ball kicked in your stomach warrant stopping the game and the ball being returned to you from the opposition for you to to restart the game unopposed?? ******* joke She clearly wasn't looking at who had the ball when she stopped play. But one of her assistants should have been able to help her out. Bizarre moment that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Huddersfield's 6 yellow cards will earn them some kind of punishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 It wasn't a penalty let's be fair, hard luck on Huddersfield for sure 3 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 7 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: You forgot she had a nice arse I thought that as well. She could give me a straight Red to Bed 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Jose said: I thought there were a couple of times where we were dispossessed in own half and luckily got a free kick from minimal if any contact. She is clearly no better or worse than most referees but people like to push agendas nowadays,if the ref was Dave from Dundee then the OP wouldn’t be starting a thread Edited April 13 by joe jordans teeth 1 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Taylor Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 14 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: But she's never played men's professional football so she can't be any good at her job. It's impossible. This is just the woke Marxist commie Trotsky Gary Lineker led anti-Brexit BBC infiltrating mid-table Championship football. And I for one am FUMING. Imagine how Barton is feeling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Not interested that she was female or male but as long as she done a decent job , which she did well done ref , 2 good performances in 2 games and 3 pens now we got the refs sorted just need the team to step up 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packman Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Thought she was poor tbh 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 36 minutes ago, BS3_RED said: No, not the team. The ref. I thought she pretty much got every call correct. She was certainly one of the best we have had this season. The penalty was a terrible decision 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 4 minutes ago, Midred said: Huddersfield's 6 yellow cards will earn them some kind of punishment. Used to be a fine of £2,500 which seems fairly insignificant in the scheme of things 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 4 minutes ago, Sniper said: I thought that as well. She could give me a straight Red to Bed Only a face a mother could love you got sniper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 A bit whistle happy, but got the pen and the time wasting spot on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 3 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: The penalty was a terrible decision Not from where I saw it it.looked nailed on. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelksRed Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 5 minutes ago, redkev said: Not interested that she was female or male but as long as she done a decent job , which she did well done ref. Exactly this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 6 minutes ago, redkev said: Not interested that she was female or male but as long as she done a decent job , which she did well done ref , 2 good performances in 2 games and 3 pens now we got the refs sorted just need the team to step up Not sure ours could be called a decent performance. For most of it we were crap. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Back to back to back decent refs. Brace yourselves for the next couple! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 21 minutes ago, RedM said: Think some of Huddersfield's bench could be in trouble if she reports them for having a go at her as she left the pitch, lots of shouting and fingers in her face. Not nice. That Andre Paperbackwriter was pretty angry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 5 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: The penalty was a terrible decision But if a players goes up for a ball in the pen area with his arm in the air, and the ball hits it, then they should know, there is always a possibillity of the ref giving a pen. So it's their own fault if it happens. And before you argue, Owers said thats what he did. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Thought she was good. Would like to see more female refs and officials. Only if they merit it of course. If they’re bad they’ll soon get found out like any male ref. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 8 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said: Not sure ours could be called a decent performance. For most of it we were crap. I was saying 2 decent performances by the last 2 refs , we were poor first half ok no more 2nd half 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Shock...we get a last minute penalty 3 mins over the initial 5 mins added on and we think the ref was great !! She was fine , would be interesting to see the handball back again to know if she got the that right. She gave quite a lot, but she was consistent for both teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Outstanding performance but a schoolboy error at the end there, giving a penalty to the midtable side with nothing at stake and going nowhere but the beach, at the expense of the team hovering around the bottom three or four, with rather a lot to lose. In April. Tut, tut. Whereas Lee Mason, in the (46th) game v Birmingham City in 2017, chose not to award us, the home side, a (pretty clear) penalty, us being on the beach with nothing at stake and Birmingham almost certain to go down and never to forgive or forget should he penalise them. And probably be hanging around in the car park afterwards. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 1 minute ago, exAtyeoMax said: Thought she was good. Would like to see more female refs and officials. Only if they merit it of course. If they’re bad they’ll soon get found out like any male ref. Exactly there on merit only , I don’t like it when they start mentioning gender and colour of skin sounds like there shoe horning them in for a narrative 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DolmanGaz Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 fairly poor I thought, just that most decisions went in our favour! stopped the game for a ball the gut, didn't stop the game when one of ours got a boot to the head and went down? not a brilliant display, but we got the run of the green for sure 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 6 minutes ago, EstoniaTallinnRed said: But if a players goes up for a ball in the pen area with his arm in the air, and the ball hits it, then they should know, there is always a possibillity of the ref giving a pen. So it's their own fault if it happens. And before you argue, Owers said thats what he did. Doesn’t make him right just because he’s a ex pro . Hes sliding in to block the cross it’s hit his arm from about 2 yards away. In situations like this you have to ask yourself if you’d be pissed off it’s that’s given against us , because I would 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelksRed Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 2 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said: Outstanding performance but a schoolboy error at the end there, giving a penalty to the midtable side with nothing at stake and going nowhere but the beach, at the expense of the team hovering around the bottom three or four, with rather a lot to lose. In April. Tut, tut. Whereas Lee Mason, in the (46th) game v Birmingham City in 2017, chose not to award us, the home side, a (pretty clear) penalty, us being on the beach with nothing at stake and Birmingham almost certain to go down and never to forgive or forget should he penalise them. And probably be hanging around in the car park afterwards. So you are saying that refs should make decisions on what's at stake?..... surely it should be what is seen on the pitch.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 5 minutes ago, The Humble Realist said: Shock...we get a last minute penalty 3 mins over the initial 5 mins added on and we think the ref was great !! She was fine , would be interesting to see the handball back again to know if she got the that right. She gave quite a lot, but she was consistent for both teams You missed their centre half going down like he was shot for 3 mins then, before he was resurrected? Then McCrorie. 10 mins was the least she shouldve played. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 28 minutes ago, Bobbie said: Since when does getting the ball kicked in your stomach warrant stopping the game and the ball being returned to you from the opposition for you to to restart the game unopposed?? ******* joke Must have missed this (I fell asleep near the end, woke up for the penalty ) but did it hit her? If so, that’s the rule now if the ball hits the ref. It should be a drop ball to the team that was in possession. I believe any other drop ball decision is done by the players, the ref cannot tell a team to give a ball back for example when a team kicks the ball out for an injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 7 minutes ago, The Humble Realist said: Shock...we get a last minute penalty 3 mins over the initial 5 mins added on and we think the ref was great !! She was fine , would be interesting to see the handball back again to know if she got the that right. She gave quite a lot, but she was consistent for both teams Well the first 2 minutes of added time was wasted by a Huddersfield injury, so it was justified to play beyond the 5. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Hampton Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 34 minutes ago, Bobbie said: Since when does getting the ball kicked in your stomach warrant stopping the game and the ball being returned to you from the opposition for you to to restart the game unopposed?? ******* joke Well how could she referee the game whilst getting the ball kicked in her stomach. You wouldn’t bat an eyelid if a player went to the floor. If there’d been a foul against us and she didn’t give it cos she didn’t see it would you be happy with that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 28 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: She is clearly no better or worse than most referees but people like to push agendas nowadays,if the ref was Dave from Dundee then the OP wouldn’t be starting a thread Most weeks there is a ref thread isn’t there and if not plenty of opinion or am I imagining that? I am not sure at @BS3_RED comes across as having an agenda? I thought she was decent, got most of the calls correct and added extra injury time for the time wasting. The Peno could have gone either way but she had no hesitation. I heard Dave from Dundee had a stormer too! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Thought she was generally good, unfortunately let down by one of the worse linesman seen on the Lansdown side. The ref Wednesday was better 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 7 minutes ago, JP Hampton said: Well how could she referee the game whilst getting the ball kicked in her stomach. You wouldn’t bat an eyelid if a player went to the floor. If there’d been a foul against us and she didn’t give it cos she didn’t see it would you be happy with that? Sorry what? The ball was kicked into the Huddersfield’s centre half’s stomach, after which we had possession and she decided to stop the game and return the ball to them via an unopposed drop ball. The games gone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted April 13 Admin Share Posted April 13 52 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: You forgot she had a nice arse 43 minutes ago, Sniper said: I thought that as well. She could give me a straight Red to Bed 38 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Only a face a mother could love you got sniper Isn't it funny how easy it is to spot posters who either still live with their parents or they're so lonely they obsess with babestation 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 48 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: She is clearly no better or worse than most referees but people like to push agendas nowadays,if the ref was Dave from Dundee then the OP wouldn’t be starting a thread That’s not necessarily true. After nearly every match there will be a thread discussing the ref’s performance. it’s a novelty to have a female ref, the more often it happens people won’t notice. *I say that but if one makes a howler the usual cliched jibes aimed towards females will start no doubt! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said: But she's never played men's professional football so she can't be any good at her job. It's impossible. This is just the woke Marxist commie Trotsky Gary Lineker led anti-Brexit BBC infiltrating mid-table Championship football. And I for one am FUMING. Love to the family Colin................................ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 5 minutes ago, phantom said: Isn't it funny how easy it is to spot posters who either still live with their parents or they're so lonely they obsess with babestation It’s banter phantom, wether you like it or not we are all different doesn’t make it right or wrong everybody different and we have to accept that , we seem to live in a society now if you don’t find it funny or don’t think it’s right people get called out , not aiming this at you it’s just how it is , social media certainly doesn’t help 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciderhead433 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 (edited) There no. 14 had better hair do, then the ref Edited April 13 by Ciderhead433 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 37 minutes ago, nickolas said: You missed their centre half going down like he was shot for 3 mins then, before he was resurrected? Then McCrorie. 10 mins was the least she shouldve played. The 5 mins started on 91 so that takes us to 96. There was an injury after that but not sure it lasted 2 minutes as the penalty was awarded on 98. Incidentally oleary and another stoppage in the 1st half only led to 2 minutes being added on so explain that one. I'm all FOR refs adding on time especially for time wasting but I think if we were huddersfield we would be livid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3_RED Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 1 hour ago, joe jordans teeth said: She is clearly no better or worse than most referees but people like to push agendas nowadays,if the ref was Dave from Dundee then the OP wouldn’t be starting a thread I'm pretty sure I started one earlier in the season about a male ref having a good game. No agenda from me. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo76 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 If I was a Huddersfield fan, I'd be fuming. I thought we got a lot of soft decisions. Huddersfield more up for it physically. Feel a bit for them. Couldn't see the pen but comments on here suggest it wasn't? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Generally, male or female people praise the ref when we win or they do something positive that goes in our favour and I suspect all football fans are the same ! No way anyone on here praising the ref would do so if we were huddersfield. And that doesnt mean ref had a bad game today, just a comment on fans opinions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3_RED Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 1 hour ago, steviestevieneville said: The penalty was a terrible decision I was already on AG1 by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 I thought she was average. Nowhere near as good as the bloke from Wednesday evening. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme Shelton Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 She wasn't the worst ref we've had this season certainly,but the ref Wednesday was the best we've had for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pj76 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 (edited) 35 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said: Thought she was generally good, unfortunately let down by one of the worse linesman seen on the Lansdown side. The ref Wednesday was better The only lino I've seen worse than that was the one on the dolman side Edited April 13 by pj76 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 1 hour ago, Totterdown's Finest said: 1 hour ago, BS3_RED said: No, not the team. The ref. I thought she pretty much got every call correct. She was certainly one of the best we have had this season. Agreed, very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 55 minutes ago, redkev said: I was saying 2 decent performances by the last 2 refs , we were poor first half ok no more 2nd half Gotcha. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcredandwhite Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 I thought she did ok. Not sure about the penalty - and the Sky replay doesn’t make it any clearer either. https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/13114485/bristol-city-1-1-huddersfield-town-championship-highlights One thing that DID impress me was her adding all that time on top of Extra Time to make up for Huddersfield’s time wasting sh1thousery. The penalty might well have been harsh, but it’s comeuppance for all that. If they had not wasted so much time then we probably would have lost the game, as it would have ended at 95 minutes. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Yes felt she had a decent game and looked like a penalty from where I was sat. But omg was that not a bloody awful.game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: Love to the family Colin................................ Unlikely being from Portsmouth that he would support ‘Uddersfield, but look forward to him attending “The Gate” next season and getting worked up to the point of exploding, especially if we have a female referee!! Edited April 13 by Dr Balls 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 I presume there was a chant of 'she fell over' today?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 (edited) It’s interesting how different fans see things. On the Huddersfield forum it’s pure vitriol about her, most of it sexist and insulting. I think they were unlucky not to get 3 points but blaming her is a step far too far https://downatthemac.proboards.com/thread/119765/rebecca-welch Edited April 13 by pongo88 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 22 minutes ago, The Humble Realist said: The 5 mins started on 91 so that takes us to 96. There was an injury after that but not sure it lasted 2 minutes as the penalty was awarded on 98. Incidentally oleary and another stoppage in the 1st half only led to 2 minutes being added on so explain that one. I'm all FOR refs adding on time especially for time wasting but I think if we were huddersfield we would be livid. They wasted a LOT of time within injury time, so I think she'd have been well within her rights to play on to 100 minutes, to be honest. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 6 minutes ago, elhombrecito said: They wasted a LOT of time within injury time, so I think she'd have been well within her rights to play on to 100 minutes, to be honest. That would mean they wasted 4 minutes in the 5 minutes which obviously didnt happen (the 5 mins started on 91) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 11 minutes ago, pongo88 said: It’s interesting how different fans see things. On the Huddersfield forum it’s pure vitriol about her, most of it sexist and insulting. I think they were unlucky not to get 3 points but blaming her is a step far too far https://downatthemac.proboards.com/thread/119765/rebecca-welch Guess it’s natural in some ways to be frustrated but agree they have gone OTT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 7 minutes ago, The Humble Realist said: That would mean they wasted 4 minutes in the 5 minutes which obviously didnt happen (the 5 mins started on 91) The penalty was awarded in the 97th minute. The Huddersfield players then spent 2 minutes arguing with her about it and time-wasting, which earnt them 2 more yellow cards, and that’s why it wasn’t taken until the 100th minute. Huddersfield only have themselves to blame for such blatant time wasting, especially as it came back to bite them hard on the arse! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 I thought the early yellows for Spencer and Matos, set the tone, and made the rest of the game easy…players knew the score from those two decisions. And then re injury time, she followed the rules set over the summer, that so many are now paying lip service to. Cant comment on the pen, tv angle wasn’t good. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 2 minutes ago, Dr Balls said: The penalty was awarded in the 97th minute. The Huddersfield players then spent 2 minutes arguing with her about it and time-wasting, which earnt them 2 more yellow cards, and that’s why it wasn’t taken until the 100th minute. Huddersfield only have themselves to blame for such blatant time wasting, especially as it came back to bite them hard on the arse! Was 98th minute, saw it on the clock but happy to be corrected if someone can prove otherwise. Yeah I'm not saying anything about post the penalty as obv lots of arguing etc. Making the point that if the ref should have played 'to at least 100th min' that would mean they wasted 4 minutes in the 5 minutes ...which they didnt . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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