Scott Twine - ?

[INCRED]

2 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Depends if depth and succession planning or similar. You can't rely on one striker, Conway has had two medium term injuries already after all.

Still selling Conway seems foolish IMO. He should only get better really injuries permitting 

 

It’s Conway who is stalling, not the club 

TC needs to knuckle down and continue his development rather than go somewhere that he is just another young player as opposed to a club who have developed and nurtured him from a young age 

I wouldn’t be surprised if his heads been turned after Antoine & Alex move to Bournemouth and his agent is touting him around as the next big thing out of Bristol City 

[MrRedRobin]

I am keen for us to get Twine on a perm. The upturn in results has come with him in the team and whilst I know its not all down to him I have been impressed more so in the last few as he has regained his fitness. There is a chance to do a really good deal here however I understand it could potentially be tough to pull it off. I am adamant we will try and pull of this deal but wouldn't bank on him being hear at the end of the transfer window.

[1960maaan]

54 minutes ago, INCRED said:

It’s Conway who is stalling, not the club 

TC needs to knuckle down and continue his development rather than go somewhere that he is just another young player as opposed to a club who have developed and nurtured him from a young age 

I wouldn’t be surprised if his heads been turned after Antoine & Alex move to Bournemouth and his agent is touting him around as the next big thing out of Bristol City 

After seeing several of his mates move onwards and upwards, I'm not surprised if he's had his head turned. 
I'm not surprised he's stalling either. His agent will be touting around for a move, TC will probably just be waiting and weighing up his options. We all probably think he will be better staying and building his reputation here, but with rumours of Rangers and Celtic I'm not surprised he hasn't rushed to sign here. 

I think we should try very hard to get him to sign , this mythical new striker may take time to settle , if we even find him.

[Lrrr]

41 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

After seeing several of his mates move onwards and upwards, I'm not surprised if he's had his head turned. 
I'm not surprised he's stalling either. His agent will be touting around for a move, TC will probably just be waiting and weighing up his options. We all probably think he will be better staying and building his reputation here, but with rumours of Rangers and Celtic I'm not surprised he hasn't rushed to sign here. 

I think we should try very hard to get him to sign , this mythical new striker may take time to settle , if we even find him.

I don't see any way Tommy signs a new deal, he's an ambitious lad and all he'd do by re-signing here would be potentially preventing himself getting a bigger move, a good season next season isn't a guarantee whereas being OOC next summer or getting a move this summer gets him that opportunity. 

[1960maaan]

Just now, Lrrr said:

I don't see any way Tommy signs a new deal, he's an ambitious lad and all he'd do by re-signing here would be potentially preventing himself getting a bigger move, a good season next season isn't a guarantee whereas being OOC next summer or getting a move this summer gets him that opportunity. 

I think it depends on who comes in for him. He's not had the best of seasons, though he would have be known for his potential . I don't see a Prem side giving him regular football , there might be something in the Scottish links which would be tempting , but that's what I mean that he can wait . If nothing comes of a "big move" he has us as a fall back . I imagine if anyone was really keen they would have made contact by now , we may not hear for a while, but he holds all the cards ATM.

[MarcusX]

22 hours ago, Clutton Caveman said:

I just hope that unlike many, his form stays if he gets a long term contract. I remember a certain Tomlin performance at the last home game one year with the whole crowd singing sign him up. Look how that ended.

Attitude wise there's no comparison between Twine and Tomlin, he isn't that sort of guy.

Manning already knows him and will know that too.

[KegCity]

20 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Why should we be looking at selling Conway? More upheaval, financially speaking heavy lifting..let's seem to keep him and show a bit of ambition within sensible financials of course.

He's given no indication that he wants to stay. I would be surprised if he's still here by the end of the summer transfer window.

[Mr Popodopolous]

2 hours ago, KegCity said:

He's given no indication that he wants to stay. I would be surprised if he's still here by the end of the summer transfer window.

Keep and look for compensation come summer 2025 possibly or hope he takes us upwards this season.

[Oh Louie louie]

Id take him tomorrow, but us spending 5 million on one player? I don't think that's very likely 

[INCRED]

On 27/04/2024 at 18:41, Bris Red said:

Obviously purely speculation on my part but i have a feeling Manning will be backed fairly heavily this window, we have seen it before with LJ and i wouldn't at all be surprised if we did sign him for £5m or close to that the powers that be would still find plenty left in the infamous 'nest egg' to give Manning and Tinnion the other targets they want..

We will sign him but it will be an undisclosed fee 

We will also spend big on a striker and if TC is sold then that nett’s off some of the outlay

[The Nest Egg]

I think we would be livid if Twine ended up signing for someone else, even if it was close to £5m.

[JAWS]

3 hours ago, The Nest Egg said:

I think we would be livid if Twine ended up signing for someone else, even if it was close to £5m.

I agree based on what we have seen. Exactly the type of player we need. If he wants to come & Burnley prepared to sign AND we want top 6 we must sign him

[frenchred]

4 hours ago, INCRED said:

We will sign him but it will be an undisclosed fee 

We will also spend big on a striker and if TC is sold then that nett’s off some of the outlay

Unless there is a massive change of mind at the top he won't be signing for us

[BCFCGav]

Few questionable ITK’s on Twitter saying it’s done or thereabouts. I’d like him to stay. We’re short on sparkle at the top end of the pitch and he has that. 
 

Hopefully a bit of pressure from Twine and his agent on Burnley can help a deal be done.

[Shauntaylor85]

4 hours ago, INCRED said:

We will sign him but it will be an undisclosed fee 

We will also spend big on a striker and if TC is sold then that nett’s off some of the outlay

This whole two attacking players is all we need thing is worrying me. We certainly need more to bridge the 10 point gap to top six, still think we need a Semenyo/Ogbene type wide player who can destroy teams with pace and power/direct running in behind, we have nobody who can do that, a powerful physical pacy striker, ACM minimum plus I would consider the Rotherham keeper Johansen.  

[Davefevs]

3 minutes ago, BCFCGav said:

Few questionable ITK’s on Twitter saying it’s done or thereabouts. I’d like him to stay. We’re short on sparkle at the top end of the pitch and he has that. 
 

Hopefully a bit of pressure from Twine and his agent on Burnley can help a deal be done.

I saw one Tweeter saying it was 85% done!  What does that even mean?  Burnley don’t even know what division they are in next season yet.

My own thoughts are that nothing has happened yet, other than keeping channels open.

[Shauntaylor85]

On 29/04/2024 at 21:43, Lrrr said:

I don't see any way Tommy signs a new deal, he's an ambitious lad and all he'd do by re-signing here would be potentially preventing himself getting a bigger move, a good season next season isn't a guarantee whereas being OOC next summer or getting a move this summer gets him that opportunity. 

What do we get for Tommy realistically? £7M? Can’t see much more with 12 months left. 

[Lrrr]

6 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

What do we get for Tommy realistically? £7M? Can’t see much more with 12 months left. 

My estimation would be £5m to £7m, the two hamstring injuries won't be ignored despite the fact he came back from both. However my guess would be we'd get maybe 1.5m to 2.5m absolute tops if Conway goes to compensation, I don't see us potentially turning down another 3-5 mil for having him around for another year.  

[Robbored]

8 hours ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

What do we get for Tommy realistically? £7M? Can’t see much more with 12 months left. 

Nowhere near £7m - not even half that.

I can see too many weaknesses in Conways game and if I can see them so can potential buyers. I’d be as amazed as I was when Villa paid  £15m for Kodjia if another decent English club offered £3m

[Garland-sweden]

12 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Nowhere near £7m - not even half that.

I can see too many weaknesses in Conways game and if I can see them so can potential buyers. I’d be as amazed as I was when Villa paid  £15m for Kodjia if another decent English club offered £3m

Kodjia was a far better player than Conway. He probably will be better and with right players around him think Tommy will be very good.

[BCFCGav]

9 hours ago, Davefevs said:

I saw one Tweeter saying it was 85% done!  What does that even mean?  Burnley don’t even know what division they are in next season yet.

My own thoughts are that nothing has happened yet, other than keeping channels open.

Saw the same Tweet. Oddly specific number, what on Earth is the last 15% of a transfer 

[Betty Swallocks]

Just now, BCFCGav said:

Saw the same Tweet. Oddly specific number, what on Earth is the last 15% of a transfer 

A three course dinner at the Avon Gorge Hotel, signing on the dotted line, chucked up on the “roof” for some awkward acting and then finally a scouting report sent to Bournemouth. 

[Simon bristol]

Can see this ramping up over the summer on here the way the tomlin deal did… i think twine and tomlin have different characters, hopefully!!

[Davefevs]

3 minutes ago, Simon bristol said:

Can see this ramping up over the summer on here the way the tomlin deal did… i think twine and tomlin have different characters, hopefully!!

My guess is that little will happen until the PL season ends.  If we can get Burnley’s asking price down (£5m) considerably then maybe it’ll happen, otherwise we will move on during close season.  I don’t see us letting drag into pre-season, let alone the start of the season.

[Leabrook]

Three games ago the consensus seemed to be that we shouldn’t sign Twine. Now the consensus seems to be that we should.  

[W-S-M Seagull]

He's good but I'd rather we spent 5 million on a couple of players to add depth. 

[mozo]

2 minutes ago, Leabrook said:

Three games ago the consensus seemed to be that we shouldn’t sign Twine. Now the consensus seems to be that we should.  

Never expect consistency from either City or OTIB!

[mattjb]

11 hours ago, Davefevs said:

I saw one Tweeter saying it was 85% done!  What does that even mean?  Burnley don’t even know what division they are in next season yet.

My own thoughts are that nothing has happened yet, other than keeping channels open.

Was told on Saturday that he’s been looking at houses in a development in a village in the area. Could mean that he’s looking just in case we sign him or maybe some sort of agreement is already in place? Who knows? 

[W-S-M Seagull]

I've not watched all the recent away games and some hom3 games I've pretty much fallen asleep. So what have others seen in Twine that makes you believe we should spend 5 million on Twine? 2 goals and zero assists doesn't really sell the idea of spending 5 million on him to me. 

 

 

Edited May 1 by W-S-M Seagull

[supercidered]

1 hour ago, mattjb said:

Was told on Saturday that he’s been looking at houses in a development in a village in the area. Could mean that he’s looking just in case we sign him or maybe some sort of agreement is already in place? Who knows? 

Told by:

• Someone in the pub.
• Someone in the know.
• Ian Gay.
• Someone at the HPC.
• A woman on reception at the Avon Gorge.
• Alan Curbishley's Estate Agent.
• Roy de Alien.

Etc, etc, etc.

[cidercity1987]

2 hours ago, Simon bristol said:

Can see this ramping up over the summer on here the way the tomlin deal did… i think twine and tomlin have different characters, hopefully!!

As a fanbase we seem very fixated on signing up loan players. Maybe other fanbases are the same but as a club I do hope we are considering all options.

[Robbored]

8 minutes ago, supercidered said:

Told by:

• Someone in the pub.
• Someone in the know.
• Ian Gay.
• Someone at the HPC.
• A woman on reception at the Avon Gorge.
• Alan Curbishley's Estate Agent.
• Roy de Alien.

Etc, etc, etc.

The boring fact is that I’ve heard absolutely nothing, not even another far fetched rumour……

[CodeRed]

24 minutes ago, Robbored said:

The boring fact is that I’ve heard absolutely nothing, not even another far fetched rumour……

[1960maaan]

50 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

I've not watched all the recent away games and some hom3 games I've pretty much fallen asleep. So what have others seen in Twine that makes you believe we should spend 5 million on Twine? 2 goals and zero assists doesn't really sell the idea of spending 5 million on him to me. 

 

 

TBH I don't think he's set the World alight, the injury disrupted his flow TBF. But the Rotherham game showed a little of what we could get if he did sign. Wasn't just his best game, but he brought the best out of TC too. 
For that reason I would like to see him come here, he really linked well. 
He was good at Norwich and has been ok previously. At anywhere near £5m it's a hard no from me , but , if the fee is nearer £2m then maybe. 
We don't know our budget, we don't know if TC or JW , even MJ will be given new deals , we don't know if Burnley will even consider a lower price than the £4m they paid . Burnley may see him as part of their route back up , so many things that can happen. 

The only thing I'm sure about ( well 99% ) is that we won't spend £5m on him , I doubt our entire budget is that much. 

3 minutes ago, CodeRed said:

Robbo watching the OS for news and rumours ?

[GrahamC]

4 hours ago, Robbored said:

Nowhere near £7m - not even half that.

I can see too many weaknesses in Conways game and if I can see them so can potential buyers. I’d be as amazed as I was when Villa paid  £15m for Kodjia if another decent English club offered £3m

Isn’t this speculation?

Your comment about Kodjia just shows how very little you know.

[Davefevs]

2 hours ago, mattjb said:

Was told on Saturday that he’s been looking at houses in a development in a village in the area. Could mean that he’s looking just in case we sign him or maybe some sort of agreement is already in place? Who knows? 

Horfield Village?

[Robbored]

2 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Isn’t this speculation?

Your comment about Kodjia just shows how very little you know.

Kodjia was a decent striker but nowhere near worth the £15m Villa paid for him. 

[Major Isewater]

15 hours ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

This whole two attacking players is all we need thing is worrying me. We certainly need more to bridge the 10 point gap to top six, still think we need a Semenyo/Ogbene type wide player who can destroy teams with pace and power/direct running in behind, we have nobody who can do that, a powerful physical pacy striker, ACM minimum plus I would consider the Rotherham keeper Johansen.  

Isn’t Palmer Houlden likely to be in the first team squad next season ? 
He seems like the type of player that the club say they want. 
They could pay 5 million for Twine , blood Seb and still bring in a cheap foreign player to look as though we’ve spent big . 

[Lrrr]

It would be a huge ask for Seb to come in and make an impact

[mattjb]

4 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Horfield Village?

The gas couldn’t afford a pair of boots for him never mind sign him!

[And Its Smith]

I will be surprised if Seb doesn’t feature in more than 10 games next season

[marcofisher]

I would expect some effort would be needed in Twine’s side if he wants the move. Transfer request etc to try and bring the valuation down from Burnley. 

[WECANDO]

Get him to tell Burnley he wants to move to City would be a start.

[mozo]

52 minutes ago, WECANDO said:

Get him to tell Burnley he wants to move to City would be a start.

I could send an email to them on his behalf? 

[BCFC31]

4 hours ago, WECANDO said:

Get him to tell Burnley he wants to move to City would be a start.

Twine won't do that will he let's be honest he's probably earning 5x the amount of money we would ever pay plus he has 2 more years on that very lucrative deal and is at a team who have a real shot at promotion back to the Premier leauge next season he won't let go of Burnley easily we have to hope Burnley want to cut there losses on him and lower there asking price because they want to reinvest the money for there promotion push.

Edited May 2 by BCFC31

[Antman]

9 minutes ago, BCFC31 said:

Twine won't do that will he let's be honest he's probably earning 5x the amount of money we would ever pay plus he has 2 more years on that very lucrative deal and is at a team who have a real shot at promotion back to the Premier leauge next season he won't let go of Burnley easily we have to hope Burnley want to cut there losses on him and lower there asking price because they want to reinvest the money for there promotion push.

i preferred the original

 

[Lrrr]

1 hour ago, BCFC31 said:

Twine won't do that will he let's be honest he's probably earning 5x the amount of money we would ever pay plus he has 2 more years on that very lucrative deal and is at a team who have a real shot at promotion back to the Premier leauge next season he won't let go of Burnley easily we have to hope Burnley want to cut there losses on him and lower there asking price because they want to reinvest the money for there promotion push.

Given we pay players 10-15 thousand why do you think Twine is on 50+?

[BCFC31]

21 hours ago, Lrrr said:

Given we pay players 10-15 thousand why do you think Twine is on 50+?

He would have had a promotion eage increase in his contract wouldn't be surprised if he was on around 40k per week 

[KegCity]

13 minutes ago, BCFC31 said:

He would have had a promotion eage increase in his contract wouldn't be surprised if he was on around 40k per week 

It will be reduced assuming Burnley go down.

[1960maaan]

1 hour ago, BCFC31 said:

He would have had a promotion eage increase in his contract wouldn't be surprised if he was on around 40k per week 

40k ??? He signed from MK not AC , what do you think Burnley's higher earners are on ?

I read an article that said Burnley had the 3rd lowest wage bill in the Prem , and lower than Leicester, Leeds and Southampton as Championship sides. It's incredibly difficult to get a real read on salaries , but when I've looked the top earner at Burnley has never come out higher than £48k , Twine always comes out around £4k . That may be way too low, but no way is he on anywhere near £40k.

I would think he's within our budget , I'm just not sure the fee will be.