King

[Natchfever]

11 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Mind you, I listened to Tinnion on a podcast the other week & he actually said with a straight face that it was good to get Mickey Bell (his best mate), Matt Hewlett & Dean Gerken FFS on the coaching staff because they “understand the club”.

Leaving aside the fact Gerken is from Essex & was basically only ever our reserve goalie, it really does say a lot.

Premiership winner & City fan? Nope?

Mate of Tinnion? More than welcome..

Tinnion wouldnt appoint anyone with such a background.

[petehinton]

1 minute ago, One Team said:

He’s just dying to give Bell the first team coach job.

And this is why under this regime we aren’t going to significantly progress. The thinking is constrained and small time. We need a completely new way of looking at things in my view. 

As for understanding the club surely Andy King would fit the bill. What he really means is “understand working under Lansdown”. 

I don’t think he is.  In fairness to Tinns, bringing Micky in I can sympathise with as I think the 16s-18s when he came in had a severe lack of coaches, or quality coaches, so if anything he was doing the club a bit of a favour by coaching at the club part time whilst he was still managing clevedon. 

[Mr Popodopolous]

As well as not making the change of October, a sensible hierarchy in addition to Williams would be looking to retain James as a player and  King as a coach as part of the foundation this summer.

Could still happen but I doubt it. I hope it does.

[steveybadger]

On 28/04/2024 at 18:03, GrahamC said:

100% & I thought it reflected really well on Manning that he gave him what is certainly his last appearance at Ashton Gate.

We’ve signed a number of veterans in the past, Jody Morris & Chris Brunt spring to mind & ended up with them on the wage bill yet not contributing.

King has been in every match day squad since the start of the year, has filled in at the back on occasion without ever letting us down & I’ll bet he’s on the lowest wages he’s earned for a number of years.

When you consider he arrived after a strange spell in Belgium where he didn’t play & was already approaching 33, he’s done himself & us proud.

Love to see him stay on as part of the coaching staff, we’ll find out if he does over the next fortnight or so.

Tbf didn’t Brunt tear up his contract before it was due to end, when he realised he wouldn’t get back?

[redsquirrel]

3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

As well as not making the change of October, a sensible hierarchy in addition to Williams would be looking to retain James as a player and  King as a coach as part of the foundation this summer.

Could still happen but I doubt it. I hope it does.

you and i both know what would make sense Pops but those upstairs seem to like doing things the hard way

[redkev]

Been the model pro from the minute he arrived here and if we remember correctly when he arrived here we were an absolute shambles , he as much as anyone has steadied the ship and slowly turned it round both on and off the field 

really hope the club keep him on as a coach  , 

was it me or did he genuinely seem to be pretty close to tears 

[GrahamC]

21 minutes ago, steveybadger said:

Tbf didn’t Brunt tear up his contract before it was due to end, when he realised he wouldn’t get back?

Yes, he did.

He’d been injured a while at the time but to be fair to him, he certainly wasn’t a Jody Morris type.

[Davefevs]

47 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Mind you, I listened to Tinnion on a podcast the other week & he actually said with a straight face that it was good to get Mickey Bell (his best mate), Matt Hewlett & Dean Gerken FFS on the coaching staff because they “understand the club”.

Leaving aside the fact Gerken is from Essex & was basically only ever our reserve goalie, it really does say a lot.

Premiership winner & City fan? Nope?

Mate of Tinnion? More than welcome..

That wasn’t lost on me either Graham!

[Major Isewater]

1 hour ago, 1960maaan said:

Shame we didn't get some his best years, he was good enough at the tail end of his career. 
I thought he might have been a coach long term, I think that changed with the change of Manager. I don't think it will take him long to find a job if he wants one. Top man.

Is that him with Lee Johnson in the last photo ? 

[Silvio Dante]

As ever, one man puts it perfectly.

 

[Street red]

6 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

As ever, one man puts it perfectly.

 

Of course he does the blokes just class and quality just a shame our lot isn't.

[Red Army 75]

8 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

As ever, one man puts it perfectly.

 

Fantastic message from Nige. 

[cidered abroad]

A pleasure to see Andy in a red shirt. I remember seeing him play at Ashton Gate for Leicester about twelve years ago and I thought then that he would be a very useful midfielder in the Red of Bristol City.

So thanks very much Andy and best wishes to you and family. Diolch yn fawr

[Street red]

Thank you and best wishes to you and your family always a red

[cidered abroad]

A PS for my earlier post.

I saw Andy playing for Wales in Vienna in a World Cup Russia 2018 qualifying game.

A 2-2 draw.

[W-S-M Seagull]

3 hours ago, Super said:

Class act. Wish him well

 

3 hours ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

Model pro, best wishes for the future wherever that may be

Two of Nigels biggest critics giving his signing and a member of his coaching staff high praise. Well deserved but very bizarre. 

[richwwtk]

38 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

 

Two of Nigels biggest critics giving his signing and a member of his coaching staff high praise. Well deserved but very bizarre. 

I'm not convinced you'll find anyone that could really be described as a 'critic' of Nigel Pearson on here.

Just an awful lot of people that don't feel he is quite the be all and end all that you seem to think.

Edited May 3 by richwwtk

[Midred]

1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said:

As ever, one man puts it perfectly.

 

Is his link to Nige the reason he's   not being offered anything?

[Davefevs]

6 minutes ago, Midred said:

Is his link to Nige the reason he's   not being offered anything?

Nah, don’t think so.  He’s 35, and if we genuinely want to push on, we’ve made the right decision.  If however we were to offer him a coaching deal, that might be cool.

[Northern Red]

Do we know he would have wanted a coaching deal?

[Super]

56 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

 

Two of Nigels biggest critics giving his signing and a member of his coaching staff high praise. Well deserved but very bizarre. 

Somebody is after attention. 

[sh1t_ref_again]

44 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

 

Two of Nigels biggest critics giving his signing and a member of his coaching staff high praise. Well deserved but very bizarre. 

Go find where I was a one of  NP's biggest critics, 

I will save you the time, I never have been, in fact you can find where I have said he is one of my favourite managers and did not want him sacked.

I have said as much as I liked Nige and loved his fan engagement, the football was not always as good as people make out.

I have also said I think Nige may have forced the issue to be sacked, knowing he was not getting a new contract after the nest egg situation, having an ongoing struggle with illness and knowing he had a nice contract to be looked after.

I also said I did not think Manning had the experience, but unlike some I accept a lot more goes on behind the scenes than we see as fans and prepared to accept it, go along for the ride and not chuck my dummy out the pram over matters I have no control over.

So more swalking bullshit from weston.

[bexhill reds]

8 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Nah, don’t think so.  He’s 35, and if we genuinely want to push on, we’ve made the right decision.  If however we were to offer him a coaching deal, that might be cool.

Might be a very astute piece of business putting him on the coaching books if possible, seems to have a very good rapport with the younger players and be a good conduit of how to behave on and off the pitch. If he’s doing his badges then our place might be a good way to continue doing them.

A good honest pro, in this premiership age of youngsters getting too much money too quickly he’s probably one of the last of his breed.

[W-S-M Seagull]

10 minutes ago, Super said:

Somebody is after attention. 

Just the one line again. 

Try two next time. 

[sh1t_ref_again]

12 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

Go find where I was a one of  NP's biggest critics, 

I will save you the time, I never have been, in fact you can find where I have said he is one of my favourite managers and did not want him sacked.

I have said as much as I liked Nige and loved his fan engagement, the football was not always as good as people make out.

I have also said I think Nige may have forced the issue to be sacked, knowing he was not getting a new contract after the nest egg situation, having an ongoing struggle with illness and knowing he had a nice contract to be looked after.

I also said I did not think Manning had the experience, but unlike some I accept a lot more goes on behind the scenes than we see as fans and prepared to accept it, go along for the ride and not chuck my dummy out the pram over matters I have no control over.

So more swalking bullshit from weston.

So the negative stalking **** from weston knocks someone else's one line comnent, but does not respond to my reply other than a facepalm

Oh well you will run out of those soon, as unlike others who pay to support the forum you don't.

[Super]

6 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Just the one line again. 

Try two next time. 

It didn't need a further line. 

[bexhill reds]

Would be nice to have at least one topic on here that does not degenerate into general bitching and shit-slinging. A former manager pays tribute to a player he worked with and as usual it just descends into an online fight between 2 or 3 posters. Honestly people if a poster irritates you that much then block them or just have your digs on DM. 

[Ronnie Sinclair]

2 minutes ago, bexhill reds said:

Would be nice to have at least one topic on here that does not degenerate into general bitching and shit-slinging. A former manager pays tribute to a player he worked with and as usual it just descends into an online fight between 2 or 3 posters. Honestly people if a poster irritates you that much then block them or just have your digs on DM. 

Its indeed getting tiresome

[sh1t_ref_again]

9 minutes ago, bexhill reds said:

Would be nice to have at least one topic on here that does not degenerate into general bitching and shit-slinging. A former manager pays tribute to a player he worked with and as usual it just descends into an online fight between 2 or 3 posters. Honestly people if a poster irritates you that much then block them or just have your digs on DM. 

 

6 minutes ago, Ronnie Sinclair said:

Its indeed getting tiresome

Don't disagree but felt I needed to defend myself after putting a post wishing Kingy well, having it attacked as a cheek as I was one of NP's biggest critics which could not be further from the truth 

[cityexile]

Back on topic…he is the only player to win League 1, the Championship and the Premier League with the same side. Some record.

(Note for stattos…’in the Premier era’. Seems 5 did it for Ipswich under a certain Alf Ramsey back in the day. They are the only others).

Thanks for everything and the very best in your future endeavours.

Edited May 3 by cityexile

[Jerseybean]

NP had this to say.

I think that the most straightforward and appropriate words I can write now are - Andy King, I can categorically say, you are a manager's dream. 

In his younger days, he was a player with drive, ability and goals. In his pomp, a player with drive, ability, goals and influence. In his renaissance years, a player with ability, knowledge, influence, empathy, coaching ability, not so many goals, but a personality that is worth everything to a football club. Anyone who knows anything about the game, knows exactly what a character like @AndyKingy delivers, on and off the field.

Your career, my friend, has been one I admire. Why? Because you are one of the very few who has maximised the gifts you have. Good luck for tomorrow, enjoy your time with your lovely family, and best wishes for your future whatever you decide to do next. Cheers, Nige.

[W-S-M Seagull]

38 minutes ago, Super said:

It didn't need a further line. 

99.9% of your posts are only the one line. 

[Super]

Just now, W-S-M Seagull said:

99.9% of your posts are only the one line. 

Why does it bother you? Get a life.

[spudski]

2 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

99.9% of your posts are only the one line. 

 

1 minute ago, Super said:

Why does it bother you? Get a life.

Hey lads ..FFS...this is an Andy King appreciation thread. 

Get a grip. 

Who gives a shit who said what in the past. 

Time and place etc

It's detracting away from the main topic. 

Stay classy

[Shauntaylor85]

Top pro, was so nice to my kids when they met him and also overcome with the emotion and passion the Leicester fans had for him too, a true legend of the game for what he achieved, three titles at one club including the PL. Nige did the right thing bringing him and James to the club, we must keep Matty now, don’t lose that experience and class, please see sense. We need players like that in the HPC. 

[Gazred]

2 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

As ever, one man puts it perfectly.

 

Classy and with gravitas. Just what you'd expect from Nige.

If King won't be around after hanging up his boots, i hope we cross paths with him again in the future. I'm sure he'll be successful in what he chooses to do next.

All the best to him.

[ExiledAjax]

1 hour ago, Northern Red said:

Do we know he would have wanted a coaching deal?

I wonder the same.

Whether he wanted one or not, I hope it was his decision. It wouldn't be good if we'd willingly let him leave the building without checking whether he might want to stay.

Whatever he does in his second career I'm sure he'll do it very well. 

[Curr Avon]

6 hours ago, Red Army 75 said:

 

Andy, thank you for representing your boyhood team. You're a model professional, and a credit to the game. Best wishes in your future career.

Edited May 3 by Curr Avon

[Natchfever]

1 hour ago, bexhill reds said:

Might be a very astute piece of business putting him on the coaching books if possible, seems to have a very good rapport with the younger players and be a good conduit of how to behave on and off the pitch. If he’s doing his badges then our place might be a good way to continue doing them.

A good honest pro, in this premiership age of youngsters getting too much money too quickly he’s probably one of the last of his breed.

I would imagine he could offer more on the grass and in terms of advice than Tinnions cosy dream team.

[95red]

Yet some muppetts on  here wouldn't  appreciate  his time here across  the spectrum .

 

[Rossi the Robin]

Excellent signing in the fact he helped stabilise the club and team when we really were looking downwards
Good luck Kingy 

[Bobby girl]

7 hours ago, Red Army 75 said:

 

Thank you Andy for coming to our club. you have helped our young players enormously. Model professional, sad to see you go. I wish you and your family all the best for the future, and have no doubt that you will make a great coach.

[The Constant Rabbit]

Absolutely no doubt that he will have been talking to Nige, and if NP returns to a managerial role, then I'd be very confident that Andy King will join him as an assistant.

 

They obviously get on well, work well together and have mutual respect. I think NP will manage one more time.

 

 I sense there is nothing NP would like more than to teach AK a few things about coaching before he retires. 

 

Be a very lucky club that gets those two.

[redsquirrel]

12 hours ago, Jerseybean said:

NP had this to say.

I think that the most straightforward and appropriate words I can write now are - Andy King, I can categorically say, you are a manager's dream. 

In his younger days, he was a player with drive, ability and goals. In his pomp, a player with drive, ability, goals and influence. In his renaissance years, a player with ability, knowledge, influence, empathy, coaching ability, not so many goals, but a personality that is worth everything to a football club. Anyone who knows anything about the game, knows exactly what a character like @AndyKingy delivers, on and off the field.

Your career, my friend, has been one I admire. Why? Because you are one of the very few who has maximised the gifts you have. Good luck for tomorrow, enjoy your time with your lovely family, and best wishes for your future whatever you decide to do next. Cheers, Nige.

Nige talks about everyone who serves him well like that. he genuinely appreciates good people, people who try and people willing to help others .

i was so lucky having had the pleasure of working for him and being treated like that. , everyone is an equal, if they are a good person,no matter who they are or what they do.

Andy King, thankyou for everything you did here,model pro. i only know one word,  araf doesnt seem quite fitting.  stay chilled and enjoy your time with your family and good luck for the future.

 

[Der no.2]

Top Pro

Hope to see him in the Dolman.

[Port Said Red]

12 hours ago, ExiledAjax said:

I wonder the same.

Whether he wanted one or not, I hope it was his decision. It wouldn't be good if we'd willingly let him leave the building without checking whether he might want to stay.

Whatever he does in his second career I'm sure he'll do it very well. 

I don't know if he would be interested, what I do know is that up Christmas despite his title, he hadn't actually taken any coaching sessions, certainly not from U18 or above anyway.

That might have changed in the last 4 months of course, but he seems to have been involved with the first team squad just as much if not more, so I don't think it's likely.

[Davefevs]

Great interview on BBCRB right now.  What a bloke.

[Gazred]

13 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Great interview on BBCRB right now.  What a bloke.

Really good.

Top, top bloke. Hope enjoys those holidays.

[Red Army 75]

Fair play. 

[One Team]

2 hours ago, Red Army 75 said:

Fair play. 

Looks very emotional which you can understand if he’s retiring. Nice he did it with his club as well. 

[Mr Popodopolous]

On 03/05/2024 at 17:55, redsquirrel said:

you and i both know what would make sense Pops but those upstairs seem to like doing things the hard way

Certainly seems that way RS. Part of me wonders if there is a petty streak, again I don't include Manning but those above "Ooh let us remove reminders of Pearson, no coaching deal for King, no new deal for James is a likely path".

Let's hope we are proven wrong on this, I'm sure we and many others would like to be.

[Street red]

19 hours ago, Red Army 75 said:

Fair play. 

Doesn't look a guy that wants to leave to me. Retiring I can understand but leaving the club altogether I don't think 100% what he wants. Does make you wonder if the plan was to take a coaching role here from the summer if Pearson was still here. Always a plan to retire then coach for us.

[Loco Rojo]

3 minutes ago, Street red said:

Doesn't look a guy that wants to leave to me. Retiring I can understand but leaving the club altogether I don't think 100% what he wants. Does make you wonder if the plan was to take a coaching role here from the summer if Pearson was still here. Always a plan to retire then coach for us.

Maybe. With the Plymouth job up for grabs, maybe Pearson might take that on (if well enough), and bring Andy in as coach there 

So much experience and know how leaving our club. Big loss.

[Street red]

54 minutes ago, Loco Rojo said:

Maybe. With the Plymouth job up for grabs, maybe Pearson might take that on (if well enough), and bring Andy in as coach there 

So much experience and know how leaving our club. Big loss.

I'm getting the feeling that this club doesn't like experienced people around the place it honestly doesn't make sense at all. Kingy deserves better if I'm honest and yeah a link up with Pearson again could be next watch this space I presume. James leaves as well it's a big chunk of experience leaving the building.

Edited May 5 by Street red

[GrahamC]

3 hours ago, Street red said:

I'm getting the feeling that this club doesn't like experienced people around the place it honestly doesn't make sense at all. Kingy deserves better if I'm honest and yeah a link up with Pearson again could be next watch this space I presume. James leaves as well it's a big chunk of experience leaving the building.

Well he’s no Matt Hewlett or Dean Gerken, is he?

[Street red]

1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

Well he’s no Matt Hewlett or Dean Gerken, is he?

Nope no where near The quality of these two is second to none

[RollsRoyce]

I would be very surprised if King does not go on to have a very successful coaching and/or management career.  

What a great career story, what. a great guy. What a missed opportunity for BCFC. 

[Glen hump]

5 hours ago, Street red said:

I'm getting the feeling that this club doesn't like experienced people around the place it honestly doesn't make sense at all. Kingy deserves better if I'm honest and yeah a link up with Pearson again could be next watch this space I presume. James leaves as well it's a big chunk of experience leaving the building.

Experienced people would question things’ Steve doesn’t like to be questioned’ he knows best’ it’s his club remember.

[M.D]

Top pro and we didn't see him at his best but contributed to the team.

All the best for the future Kingy..

[Natchfever]

1 hour ago, RollsRoyce said:

I would be very surprised if King does not go on to have a very successful coaching and/or management career.  

What a great career story, what. a great guy. What a missed opportunity for BCFC. 

I suspect he has options that are more attractive tbh at present.

[redsquirrel]

2 minutes ago, Natchfever said:

I suspect he has options that are more attractive tbh at present.

after seeing how his ex manager was treated,i doubt very much if he had any intentions of staying. 

billy and jonny probs made his mind up in october/november

[Natchfever]

2 minutes ago, redsquirrel said:

after seeing how his ex manager was treated,i doubt very much if he had any intentions of staying. 

billy and jonny probs made his mind up in october/november

Agreed. Reckon hed love a role here under different circumstances.

[Natchfever]

Just now, Jobi said:

I doubt that very much - certainly wont walk into a management job with no experience - chances are he will a coach somewhere at a L1/L2 club, or some youth work higher up.

Not talking about a management role. I imagine he has made some very good contacts and can see him in an assistant coaching role somewhere.

[Natchfever]

1 minute ago, Jobi said:

Yea maybe lower down the chain was my point - similar to Stead who was 3rd coach at Barnsley.

Agreed mate.

[Ashton Fete]

My money is him being the assistant manager at the next club Nige takes over 

[Natchfever]

12 minutes ago, Ashton Fete said:

My money is him being the assistant manager at the next club Nige takes over 

You reckon Nige will be back in that game?

If so his esteem of AK is clear . Maybe not Assistant but definitely in the set up.

[Ashton Fete]

1 minute ago, Natchfever said:

You reckon Nige will be back in that game?

If so his esteem of AK is clear . Maybe not Assistant but definitely in the set up.

I’d say more likely than not, in his recent interview he said he would if the right opportunity came up 

It just feels the type of thing he’d do for someone he’s loyal to and loyal to him to give him that step up

[Natchfever]

Just now, Ashton Fete said:

I’d say more likely than not, in his recent interview he said he would if the right opportunity came up 

It just feels the type of thing he’d do for someone he’s loyal to and loyal to him to give him that step up

Didnt see that interview, hope he gets back in so can definitely see that.

[Natchfever]

1 minute ago, Jobi said:

I wonder where and what level, older managers seem out of favour in 2024. 

Troubleshooter in and out perhaps. You could see him overseeing the whole football set up of a club but he doesnt seem to gell with boards

[Natchfever]

7 minutes ago, Jobi said:

I wonder where and what level, older managers seem out of favour in 2024. 

Or a consultant perhaps. Hed need people around him he trusted.