RoystonFoote'snephew Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Just saw a report that Aden Flint picked up all 4 season awards at Mansfield from their supporters groups. Obviously they can't have a young player of the season award. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lager loud Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Just now, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Just saw a report that Aden Flint picked up all 4 season awards at Mansfield from their supporters groups. Obviously they can't have a young player of the season award. Or they’ve got an exceptionally old squad. 1 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 50 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Just saw a report that Aden Flint picked up all 4 season awards at Mansfield from their supporters groups. Obviously they can't have a young player of the season award. Far too good for League Two. He never had any pace so he won’t be any slower & he certainly isn’t getting any shorter. Looking forward to him giving those North Bristol clowns some grief next season. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 6 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Far too good for League Two. He never had any pace so he won’t be any slower & he certainly isn’t getting any shorter. Looking forward to him giving those North Bristol clowns some grief next season. Oh yes. 90 minutes of `Sheeeeeehead` followed by a winning header from a corner would be just the ticket. I wonder if Mansfield could `forget` their kit just for the occasion? 5 9 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 1 hour ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Just saw a report that Aden Flint picked up all 4 season awards at Mansfield from their supporters groups. Obviously they can't have a young player of the season award. Flint is at the right level to impress. Big and powerful ideal qualities for a CB at that level. He’s obviously one of the better ‘head it and kick it’ merchants down at that level. 1 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Has a centre half ever scored as many goals in a season for any team as he did in our double year, non-penalties as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 15 hours ago, GrahamC said: Far too good for League Two. Fairly sure he went there, as he is a local lad and he knew they had a good chance of promotion. Fair play to him, and as you say - far too good for league 2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 16 hours ago, Robbored said: Flint is at the right level to impress. Big and powerful ideal qualities for a CB at that level. He’s obviously one of the better ‘head it and kick it’ merchants down at that level. You are known as a persistent regurgitator of your own nonsense, but still hard to understand this particular non sensical regurgitation when events over many years have proved your initial assessment of Flint, and doubling down on it numerous times, to be totally wrong. 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Only 2 goals this season surprisingly. Mansfield need to get a decent set piece taker, what's Freeman up too these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 1 hour ago, Nogbad the Bad said: You are known as a persistent regurgitator of your own nonsense, but still hard to understand this particular non sensical regurgitation when events over many years have proved your initial assessment of Flint, and doubling down on it numerous times, to be totally wrong. It’s my opinion Nogbad……….. I never rated Flint. To me he was/is a 1970s ‘head it and kick it’ merchant. He is/was never a proper footballing CB and there are plenty in todays game and why he’s slipped down the leagues. That said fair play to AF who has become wealthy by utilising his attributes to the maximum. Not sure how many times he moved clubs since City but each move would have earned a few grand signing on fee. I met Aden a number of times. Nice guy and happy to chat about football. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 5 hours ago, Robbored said: It’s my opinion Nogbad……….. I never rated Flint. To me he was/is a 1970s ‘head it and kick it’ merchant. He is/was never a proper footballing CB and there are plenty in todays game and why he’s slipped down the leagues. That said fair play to AF who has become wealthy by utilising his attributes to the maximum. Not sure how many times he moved clubs since City but each move would have earned a few grand signing on fee. I met Aden a number of times. Nice guy and happy to chat about football. Yeah a defender who defends (their main job) All these footballing CB you talk about How many are great defenders? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 1 hour ago, Maltshoveller said: Yeah a defender who defends (their main job) All these footballing CB you talk about How many are great defenders? Absolutely - but higher up the pyramid he was caught out by quick and agile strikers. Flint has the turning circle of a articulated lorry. Opposition teams soon worked out that high balls into the box were likely to headed or wellied clear and so attacked using speed and quick feet. Flint was left seriously exposed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhhshauntaylor Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 9 hours ago, Selred said: Only 2 goals this season surprisingly. Mansfield need to get a decent set piece taker, what's Freeman up too these days? Ended the season in the national league with Barnet- who lost in the play offs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38MC Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 3 minutes ago, Robbored said: Absolutely - but higher up the pyramid he was caught out by quick and agile strikers. Flint has the turning circle of a articulated lorry. Opposition teams soon worked out that high balls into the box were likely to headed or wellied clear and so attacked using speed and quick feet. Flint was left seriously exposed. Complete revisionism. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Tootle Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 10 hours ago, TV Tom said: Has a centre half ever scored as many goals in a season for any team as he did in our double year, non-penalties as well Laurent Blanc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 5 minutes ago, 38MC said: Complete revisionism. No - not revisionism at all. I had the same view on Flint for pretty much the entire time that he was at City. His limitations were clear for all to see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 1 minute ago, Tony Tootle said: Laurent Blanc Chris Sutton started his career as a centre back. Granted, he wasn't playing in that position when he was scoring goals, but still.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT The Optimist Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 I am with Robbed to some degree, we certainly saw the best of AF and he is now at his best level. Went from Stoke to Mansfield on a free ! Never made an impression at Stoke. Make of that what you will. Became a cult hero here with the famous Flint said 'No No No'... But we did the right thing and got a good fee for him at £8M (?) to Boro. Never again reproduced the form he showed for us.. in League One. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 34 minutes ago, Tony Tootle said: Laurent Blanc Penalty taker ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Tootle Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 3 minutes ago, TV Tom said: Penalty taker ? Yeah, think he would've taken a few. 15 goals for a CB at any level is pretty bloody impressive, even more so without penalties as per Flint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 1 minute ago, Tony Tootle said: Yeah, think he would've taken a few. 15 goals for a CB at any level is pretty bloody impressive, even more so without penalties as per Flint. There was a centre half at Leicester about twenty years ago (Elliot ?) used to score a lot of goals, scored all four in a two all draw once !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellist Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 He scored 15 goals in a season, including a hattrick in a game, the third of which was a rabona volley. Some players don't do that in their entire career! Don't think that is what anyone would expect of a player desribed as a "head it and kick it" merchant? No one is claiming he's as good as Messi. Or even a stylish centre back like Webster proved to be. He had limitations. (I guess a rabona volley does technically fit the definition of kicking it...maybe that's what he means?? ) Heading it and kicking it is most of football, after all 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellist Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Here we are, all 15 goals. 10 heads, 5 kicks 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 1 hour ago, TV Tom said: There was a centre half at Leicester about twenty years ago (Elliot ?) used to score a lot of goals, scored all four in a two all draw once !!! Matt Elliott, former Torquay player, looked like Uncle Fester! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 9 hours ago, Robbored said: It’s my opinion Nogbad……….. I never rated Flint. To me he was/is a 1970s ‘head it and kick it’ merchant. He is/was never a proper footballing CB and there are plenty in todays game and why he’s slipped down the leagues. That said fair play to AF who has become wealthy by utilising his attributes to the maximum. Not sure how many times he moved clubs since City but each move would have earned a few grand signing on fee. I met Aden a number of times. Nice guy and happy to chat about football. I can only imagine how illuminated, enlightened, enthused, and stimulated Aden was following the “football chats” with you - especially with your nonsensical critique of his footballing ability. Its a testament to him as a man and a professional that he did not retire immediately based on your view. Deary me. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Hope AF does well on his final few seasons. He gave us good service . 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 2 hours ago, Davefevs said: Matt Elliott, former Torquay player, looked like Uncle Fester! Haha, that's him, didn't know he played for Torquay though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 9 hours ago, Robbored said: No - not revisionism at all. I had the same view on Flint for pretty much the entire time that he was at City. His limitations were clear for all to see. Why focus on his limitations? I preferred to look at his strengths which were also clear for all to see. He was a great player for us at that time, the linchpin of that team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Flint was a rare beast amongst Bristol City players - he was a player we signed at a low cost, saw the absolute best of and sold at a considerable profit at exact right moment. I can’t think of many that fit that description. Of course he had strengths and weaknesses but he is a deserved Bristol City cult hero. 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 34 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: Flint was a rare beast amongst Bristol City players - he was a player we signed at a low cost, saw the absolute best of and sold at a considerable profit at exact right moment. I can’t think of many that fit that description. Of course he had strengths and weaknesses but he is a deserved Bristol City cult hero. Describe what you mean as ‘cult hero’ LB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 (edited) On 06/05/2024 at 19:44, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Just saw a report that Aden Flint picked up all 4 season awards at Mansfield from their supporters groups. Obviously they can't have a young player of the season award. Maybe he's the youngest in their squad (apologies but I really should read other responses fully before posting) Edited May 8 by BigTone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Bet he didn't get a warm reception at the county ground last year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 (edited) 10 hours ago, DT The Optimist said: Never again reproduced the form he showed for us.. in League One. The bloke played 228 games in the Championship. When you say form, you mean goals don't you. Because he was a good Championship defender. Edited May 8 by Selred 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 10 hours ago, Tony Tootle said: Laurent Blanc I don't care what white wine you drink, just answer the question. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 18 hours ago, Robbored said: It’s my opinion Nogbad……….. I never rated Flint. To me he was/is a 1970s ‘head it and kick it’ merchant. He is/was never a proper footballing CB and there are plenty in todays game and why he’s slipped down the leagues. That said fair play to AF who has become wealthy by utilising his attributes to the maximum. Not sure how many times he moved clubs since City but each move would have earned a few grand signing on fee. I met Aden a number of times. Nice guy and happy to chat about football. I'm no expert, but aren't footballers supposed to kick and head the ball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 1 minute ago, Selred said: The bloke played 228 games in the Championship. When you say form, you mean goals don't you. Because he was a good Championship defender. The bloke played 228 games in the Championship. When you say form, you mean goals don't you. Because he was a good Championship defender. He was probably, at peak level, a decent mid table championship defender as that’s where he spent most of his time, and he was disposed of pretty quickly by Middlesbrough who were more looking at top six consistently at that time. Nothing wrong with that. I wasn’t a massive Flint fan, and as has been said, we really played a blinder with him transfer wise - disposed at the top of his value and replaced him with a far cheaper but far better replacement. The reason I wasn’t as big on him as others, as I said at the time, is he was very much a “bubble” player - he’d go and try and win a ball but it often disrupted the overall shape. As long as you win it though, that’s fine! But he was at his best for us playing in the Aden Flint bubble, focussing on his own game and with a weakness of not appreciating as much what was around him. It’s why I didn’t really see him as the leader of that side - but it doesn’t detract that what he was there to do, he did well. However I don’t recall him taking the armband for us which tells its own story. Fast forward to now, and two divisions lower, he can be skipper, and has clearly done excellently. No pace to really lose which helps, but he’s grown into that leadership. Not a player that touches my best City side but anyone that says he didn’t show good form in the Championship is a bit churlish. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 18 hours ago, Robbored said: It’s my opinion Nogbad……….. I never rated Flint. To me he was/is a 1970s ‘head it and kick it’ merchant. He is/was never a proper footballing CB and there are plenty in todays game and why he’s slipped down the leagues. That said fair play to AF who has become wealthy by utilising his attributes to the maximum. Not sure how many times he moved clubs since City but each move would have earned a few grand signing on fee. I met Aden a number of times. Nice guy and happy to chat about football. I'm sure you don't label all 70s CBs as 'head it and kick it merchants' or do you put Collier and Merrick in that category? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 1 minute ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: I'm sure you don't label all 70s CBs as 'head it and kick it merchants' or do you put Collier and Merrick in that category? Both of them were proper CBs with far more footballing ability than Flint has ever had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 5 minutes ago, Robbored said: Both of them were proper CBs with far more footballing ability than Flint has ever had. True, but he wasn't totally devoid of skill, certainly not up front. Half of the goals he scored weren't with his head but were strikes a centre forward would of been proud of (such as the winner at Bramhall Lane) and included deft flicks and even a rabona (in the 8-2 rout of Walsall). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 4 hours ago, Robbored said: Describe what you mean as ‘cult hero’ LB. A player who fans connected with and remembered fondly due to their personality, playing style or commitment on the pitch. I broadly agree with @Silvio Dante's assessment of Flint. A very decent Championship-level centre-back with some flaws in his game, who we cashed in on at the right time. But he was the mainstay of our defence for five seasons, three of them in the Championship, one where we looked genuinely competitive in the division. He scored a gloriously ridiculous numbers of goals for a centre-back, many of them in a style you just don't expect a centre-back to score in. He connected with the fans to an extent that one interview he gave led to a terrace song that outlasted his time at the club and his uncompromising playing style endeared him to supporters, even at points where we had little to cheer about on the pitch. Flint wouldn't be in my best XI City players and there are other CBs we've had in recent years that I rate higher than him but players like Flint embody the joy of watching football and every team needs two or three players with a bit of character about them that the fans can connect with. For me, Flint is one of the first players that comes to mind when I think about my experiences of watching City over the past ten years and I'd not want to be without players like that. 13 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hinsleburg Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 14 hours ago, Robbored said: No - not revisionism at all. I had the same view on Flint for pretty much the entire time that he was at City. His limitations were clear for all to see. Not sure I agree, think Flint's distribution was actually pretty good! Certainly not a Webster/Dickie but Flint's long passing, particularly diagonal balls in behind, were at times exceptional and certainly not a hoof ball/hit and hope player. He also wasn't slow, if you watch any attacking set piece he was always the first one back moving past people like they weren't there! His straight line speed was seriously impressive. Obviously he wasn't as quick on the turn but wouldn't have said he was any slower on the turn as a Baker for example... Flint improved so much from the player we signed, other than a poor run of form where he was culpable for several goals (can't remember if first or second year back in the Championship) I think he was exceptional for us and a far better player than you've portrayed. I also think we sold him at the right time and had the best of him! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 1 hour ago, LondonBristolian said: A player who fans connected with and remembered fondly due to their personality, playing style or commitment on the pitch. I broadly agree with @Silvio Dante's assessment of Flint. A very decent Championship-level centre-back with some flaws in his game, who we cashed in on at the right time. But he was the mainstay of our defence for five seasons, three of them in the Championship, one where we looked genuinely competitive in the division. He scored a gloriously ridiculous numbers of goals for a centre-back, many of them in a style you just don't expect a centre-back to score in. He connected with the fans to an extent that one interview he gave led to a terrace song that outlasted his time at the club and his uncompromising playing style endeared him to supporters, even at points where we had little to cheer about on the pitch. Flint wouldn't be in my best XI City players and there are other CBs we've had in recent years that I rate higher than him but players like Flint embody the joy of watching football and every team needs two or three players with a bit of character about them that the fans can connect with. For me, Flint is one of the first players that comes to mind when I think about my experiences of watching City over the past ten years and I'd not want to be without players like that. ‘Cult hero’ is a very serious accolade - like Andy King is to the Foxes fans. To me only one City player qualifies as a ‘cult hero’ in my years watching City - the late Gerry Gow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 16 hours ago, TV Tom said: There was a centre half at Leicester about twenty years ago (Elliot ?) used to score a lot of goals, scored all four in a two all draw once !!! De vos at ipswich always used to get a few as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 1 hour ago, Robbored said: ‘Cult hero’ is a very serious accolade No it's not, it's literally the opposite of very serious. Cult hero means someone who is loved by a small amount of people (a cult). King is a hero at Leicester. Really good article here on it: https://theathletic.com/2468874/2021/03/23/modern-cult-hero-premier-league/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 1 hour ago, Robbored said: ‘Cult hero’ is a very serious accolade - like Andy King is to the Foxes fans. To me only one City player qualifies as a ‘cult hero’ in my years watching City - the late Gerry Gow. It'd be a very odd concept indeed not to have had any cult heroes in 44 years and I'd say Gerry Gow wouldn't count as a Bristol City cult hero at all, for the simple reason that he's widely recognised as one of the greatest Bristol City players of all time and would feature in most people of that era's all-time Bristol City Greatest XI. To my mind, a cult hero is a player who isn't objectively quite good enough to be one of the club's all time greats but who nonetheless played a big role in shaping the experiences of the fans who watched them. So, if you took Man City for example - Gow's other notable club, where he could conceivably be seen as a cult hero - the likes of David Silva or Sergio Aguero wouldn't count as 'cult heroes' but the likes of Georgi Kinkladze or Paulo Wanchope, who brought moments of joy at a point when Man City weren't winning things, might legitimately do so. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 (edited) 2 hours ago, Robbored said: ‘Cult hero’ is a very serious accolade - like Andy King is to the Foxes fans. To me only one City player qualifies as a ‘cult hero’ in my years watching City - the late Gerry Gow. Many of that City promotion/div.1 team were, are, and always will be cult heroes afaic. Not just Gow, but for me, Sweeney, Merrick, Tainton, Ritchie, Cheesley, Gillies, Mann, Whitehead, and then in div.1 joined by Hunter and the returning Garland. A special mention too for John Shaw, absolutely a cult hero. Little did those of us celebrating promotion on the pitch as youngsters realise that we could support City for another 50 years and they would still be by far the best City team we would ever see. Likeable & loyal to a man, individually and as a team they always gave 100% for their team mates, the club and the fans. As I said on another thread recently but it bears repeating, what a team they were! Edited May 8 by Nogbad the Bad 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 The cult hero debate is an interesting one. I tend to agree with LondonBristolian's take on what is a cult hero, just adding that they had to be a permanent City player ie not Tammy Abraham. For example, I'd regard Hugh McIlmoyle and Andy Cole, two strikers from different eras, as potential cult hero's but they could never be any more as neither was at City long enough to establish legend status. Gerry Gow definitely has legend status for me as he'd appear in the best City XI of players I've seen but where would a player like Alan Walsh sit. Probably not in my all time XI but perhaps a legend, certainly more than a cult hero. I know some cream themselves over his name but Jacki Dziekanowski only merits cult hero status for me. As I said interesting as we'll all have our individual views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Paul Arnold Garita - cult hero 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtongreight Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Bad Savage ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 My definition of a ‘cult hero’ is clearly very different to others. Is there much difference between club legend and cult hero? Gerry Gow was both of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 By definition... I'd say Gow doesn't fit but Flint could. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 36 minutes ago, Robbored said: My definition of a ‘cult hero’ is clearly very different to others. Is there much difference between club legend and cult hero? Gerry Gow was both of course. To my mind, there's a world of difference. The club legend is the player that you'd mention to fans of any age or generation and they'd nod in awe - either because they saw that player play themselves or have heard the stories about them - Atyeo and Gow being two of the most obvious examples. The cult hero is the player that, if you mention to a group of fans, those who watched them at the time will share story after story of their favourite memories of them whilst those who weren't attending regularly when they were playing will be a little bit bemused about what all the fuss was about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 (edited) A City legend for me despite what a certain grumpy old fool thinks. A massive part of the legendary double winning side and a 15 goal in a season defender. Not sure what much more you’d have to do to be honest. PS couldn’t give a toss that he went on to play for Cardiff, that’s football, and Flint is a great character and legend. Edited May 8 by AppyDAZE 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 I was going to suggest Ian Holloway or even Joey Barton as ‘Cult Heroes’, but I don’t have my reading glasses on and suspect I may have misread the word cult. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutton Caveman Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 On 07/05/2024 at 11:24, TV Tom said: Has a centre half ever scored as many goals in a season for any team as he did in our double year, non-penalties as well Always was an honest professional giving good value for his wage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 19 hours ago, LondonBristolian said: It'd be a very odd concept indeed not to have had any cult heroes in 44 years and I'd say Gerry Gow wouldn't count as a Bristol City cult hero at all, for the simple reason that he's widely recognised as one of the greatest Bristol City players of all time and would feature in most people of that era's all-time Bristol City Greatest XI. To my mind, a cult hero is a player who isn't objectively quite good enough to be one of the club's all time greats but who nonetheless played a big role in shaping the experiences of the fans who watched them. So, if you took Man City for example - Gow's other notable club, where he could conceivably be seen as a cult hero - the likes of David Silva or Sergio Aguero wouldn't count as 'cult heroes' but the likes of Georgi Kinkladze or Paulo Wanchope, who brought moments of joy at a point when Man City weren't winning things, might legitimately do so. As usual, spot on. 2 examples for me; Darius Dziekanowski, people who have paid much attention to my ramblings on here will know I didn’t rate the bloke at all, but that’s irrelevant. To a decent section of our support at the time his flair & glamour were attractive in a struggling Championship side (so no change there), the fact he was gone again inside 50 games for us means as you say, he can’t be an all time great. At the other end of the scale ability wise, Junior Bent. To make a serious point he was our first black player in quite a while (Curle & Steve Johnson were both mixed race) & I honestly remember him getting extremely unpleasant comments from a few City “fans” on debut at Preston & being told a season or two before by a supporter that a section of fans wouldn’t “accept” us signing black players (welcome to the 1950s in the 80s). This arrival then paved the way for Allison, Rosenior, Cole, Goater, Akinbiyi & all those that have followed.. Anyway Junior was the absolute definition of erratic, through one on one you genuinely had no idea if the net was going to bulge or the ball end up in Ashton Park, but what he never shortchanged you for was his effort or bravery, plus he was rapid. Add to that he seemed to be the nicest bloke on earth then he absolutely is the definition of a cult hero to me. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDarwall Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Ralph Milne = cult hero. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 On 07/05/2024 at 11:24, TV Tom said: Has a centre half ever scored as many goals in a season for any team as he did in our double year, non-penalties as well Steve Bruce once got 19 in a season for United, no idea if he took pens though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 On 08/05/2024 at 09:07, Robbored said: Both of them were proper CBs with far more footballing ability than Flint has ever had. I've put your comments to Flint, and he said. No. No. No. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Done well for us , and I think we had him at his peak , not a jot on Dickie / Webster etc etc but he fitted into a very good side and was very much part of the formula miserable bugger though , tried to chat with him a few times non match days around portishead and Clifton didn’t want to know it mmmmmm perhaps it’s me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephjnr Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 20 hours ago, Gazred said: By definition... I'd say Gow doesn't fit but Flint could. So, Cornick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 3 hours ago, Jazzy said: Steve Bruce once got 19 in a season for United, no idea if he took pens though. 19 !!!!! That's nuts, can't remember him being a penalty taker, that would of been Denis Irein at the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Just now, TV Tom said: 19 !!!!! That's nuts, can't remember him being a penalty taker, that would of been Denis Irein at the time Yep, he was a pen taker….i based by pens on his style. Place the ball, decide where I’m putting it, walk back facing away from the keeper, turn, run, shoot, no stopping first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 On 07/05/2024 at 14:02, Robbored said: It’s my opinion Nogbad……….. I never rated Flint. To me he was/is a 1970s ‘head it and kick it’ merchant. He is/was never a proper footballing CB and there are plenty in todays game and why he’s slipped down the leagues. That said fair play to AF who has become wealthy by utilising his attributes to the maximum. Not sure how many times he moved clubs since City but each move would have earned a few grand signing on fee. I met Aden a number of times. Nice guy and happy to chat about football. You didn't meet the same Aden Flint as me then! One of the most obnoxious, miserable, ignorant blokes I ever met 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 (edited) 6 hours ago, frenchred said: You didn't meet the same Aden Flint as me then! One of the most obnoxious, miserable, ignorant blokes I ever met Sorry to see that. I met him firstly thru the SC as was and we sponsored a players shirt at an event. Spent only a few mins chatting with him. The second occasion was another similar event. I asked him what he’d have become had he not become a professional footballer. He shrugged and said ‘probably laying tarmac’ I also asked him who his toughest opponent was ‘Chris Martin’ was his immediate response, Sadly CM was past his best by the time he signed for City. Also met David Noble, a very modest guy and Jamie McCoombe who found the Bristolian accent ‘ weird’. Both of them were very likeable blokes. Lee Trundle on the other hand was very up his own ass and posing as if he was the main man. Edited May 9 by Robbored Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 12 hours ago, Jazzy said: Steve Bruce once got 19 in a season for United, no idea if he took pens though. 200 Bics and 10 Rollerballs apparently. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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