1team Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Just now, joe jordans teeth said: And locked up I doubt that. Historically much better behaved fans than England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1team Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 12 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Kinda proves my point ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 1 minute ago, 1team said: I doubt that. Historically much better behaved fans than England. Why don't you just move there? They behaved well only to show up England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 1 minute ago, 1team said: I doubt that. Historically much better behaved fans than England. Does help when you only qualify once in a blue moon of course 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1team Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Just now, SecretSam said: Why don't you just move there? They behaved well only to show up England Weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Just now, 1team said: Weird. Quite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1team Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 1 minute ago, joe jordans teeth said: Does help when you only qualify once in a blue moon of course Both Rangers but particularly Celtic go to games around Europe in the 10s of thousands with barely any problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Have Scotland had a shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1team Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 2 minutes ago, SecretSam said: Quite Your point is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 51 minutes ago, transfer reader said: His time at Watford calmed him down apparently! Well he got 13 bookings so Christ knows what he was like before ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Germany could make the final I reckon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Just now, SecretSam said: Have Scotland had a shot? Ye about 8 each before the game by the looks of them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severn Beach Pigeon Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SecretSam said: Have Scotland had a shot? Yes Was 18-1 in Germany's favour when I last looked Edited June 14 by transfer reader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Just now, transfer reader said: Yes Rudiger has! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 So bad they can’t even score their own goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 2 minutes ago, 1team said: Your point is? Just leave it, pal, stop picking fights. You wanna be a plastic Scot, knock yourself out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Just now, petehinton said: So bad they can’t even score their own goal Not quite fully self-reliant/independent there, with the goal scoring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 4 minutes ago, 1team said: Both Rangers but particularly Celtic go to games around Europe in the 10s of thousands with barely any problems. And there is numerous trouble when Man City fans or Brighton travel abroad is there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 1 minute ago, Bristol Oil Services said: Not quite fully self-reliant/independent there, with the goal scoring Kind of 55/45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) Absolutely outrageous that there's a nation out there that's denied a place at the tournament because the UK has the cheek to insist on entering a shite B team. Edited June 14 by ExiledAjax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) 6 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Germany could make the final I reckon Can’t judge them on that tonight tbf. We’ll find out when they face someone decent. Edited June 14 by Numero Uno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 5 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Germany could make the final I reckon Don’t be fooled by playing Scotland off the park. The Jocks are about the weakest team in the tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayfield8 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 One more for the road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 2 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: Can’t judge them on that tonight tbf. We’ll find out when they face someone decent. 1 minute ago, Robbored said: Don’t be fooled by playing Scotland off the park. The Jocks are about the weakest team in the tournament. Yeah both fair points. They do have some quality players though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Red Army 75 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Funf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 2 minutes ago, Robbored said: Don’t be fooled by playing Scotland off the park. The Jocks are about the weakest team in the tournament. Albania might want a word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 5-1. Easy peasy for the Germans. The Scottish goal was scored my a German as well……. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 1 minute ago, SecretSam said: Albania might want a word Georgia too. Nonsense statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 10 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Germany could make the final I reckon I predicted them to win it but way too early and much tougher opposition lay ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 After looking forward to the tournament this result just reiterates how shite 24 teams and top 3 through is Bring back 16 teams ffs Maybe a pre qualifier for 12 teams at the start of June with 4 going through to group stages 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Is what it is for Scotland, a small country of only 4 million just qualifying is a success for them i guess.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_bristol Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 12 minutes ago, 1team said: Both Rangers but particularly Celtic go to games around Europe in the 10s of thousands with barely any problems. Absolute rubbish, Rangers fans trashed Manchester when they got to the Europa League final, and Celtic and Rangers aren’t even allowed to take away fans when they play each other because they can’t behave. Celtic fans were getting banged out when they went looking for trouble before an away game to Sunderland, a pre-season friendly and Scotland fans were getting nicked the other night for fighting in Germany. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 As entertaining an opener as I can remember. Some quality finishing in a one sided game. Looking forward to the weekends matches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Just now, cidercity1987 said: After looking forward to the tournament this result just reiterates how shite 24 teams and top 3 through is Bring back 16 teams ffs Maybe a pre qualifier for 12 teams at the start of June with 4 going through to group stages Or go full fat and have 64. Scotland might qualify then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 1 minute ago, Bris Red said: Is what it is for Scotland, a small country of only 4 million just qualifying is a success for them i guess.. Ummm...you might want to look at some of the other qualifiers' populations... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 1 minute ago, Super said: I predicted them to win it but way too early and much tougher opposition lay ahead. True. I was opposite to you - I didn't fancy them particularly until I looked at their squad and realised there's a lot of talent there. I think they would definitely cause problems for England, especially at home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Scotland managed one shot (off target) all match according to the BBC stats, so scoring one was…efficient? Scotland outclassed at this level, but Germany looking pretty hot in truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 5 minutes ago, Bris Red said: Is what it is for Scotland, a small country of only 4 million just qualifying is a success for them i guess.. Wikipedia Scotland had a population of 5,463,300 in 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 2 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: True. I was opposite to you - I didn't fancy them particularly until I looked at their squad and realised there's a lot of talent there. I think they would definitely cause problems for England, especially at home England will cause problems for them too. We won’t be 24% possession and no shots. That’s when you find out who’s who. Englands issue is can we stop a good side scoring against us with what we have at the back. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_bristol Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 3 minutes ago, cityexile said: Scotland managed one shot (off target) all match according to the BBC stats, so scoring one was…efficient? Scotland outclassed at this level, but Germany looking pretty hot in truth. Roy Keane and the rest are going way over the top in the criticism on itv, the truth is Germany were outstanding all over the pitch, incredible movement and some great finishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 8 minutes ago, Bris Red said: Is what it is for Scotland, a small country of only 4 million just qualifying is a success for them i guess.. About the same as Croatia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Just now, David Brent said: About the same as Croatia And more than Georgia, Albania... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 3 minutes ago, luke_bristol said: Roy Keane and the rest are going way over the top in the criticism on itv, the truth is Germany were outstanding all over the pitch, incredible movement and some great finishes. Disagree. Scotland were terrible and you won’t be seeing Germany doing that to everyone. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Just now, SecretSam said: And more than Georgia, Albania... Yes..but they are probably better than both of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 1 minute ago, David Brent said: Yes..but they are probably better than both of those. Albania are decent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 4 minutes ago, luke_bristol said: Roy Keane and the rest are going way over the top in the criticism on itv, the truth is Germany were outstanding all over the pitch, incredible movement and some great finishes. 2 questionable bits of keeping and a moment of madness for the sending off amongst a terrible overall performance - i think the criticism is justified 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 1 minute ago, David Brent said: Yes..but they are probably better than both of those. Scotland are firmly in pole position for worst performance of the tournament. So called worse teams are unlikely to be rollered like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 17 minutes ago, David Brent said: About the same as Croatia Croatia, 3.8m; Scotch, 5.4m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 19 minutes ago, luke_bristol said: Roy Keane and the rest are going way over the top in the criticism on itv, the truth is Germany were outstanding all over the pitch, incredible movement and some great finishes. Against a shit side. Who didn’t get near them . They were allowed to play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 34 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: And there is numerous trouble when Man City fans or Brighton travel abroad is there I Imagine if we somehow managed to fluke our way into Europe that there would be absolute carnage in the poor city that hosted us, good job Lee Johnson wasn't Nostradamus!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Just now, Bristol Oil Services said: Croatia, 3.8m; Scotch, 5.4m Fair enough. I was replying to the post that said 4m. Didn’t think to question it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 28 minutes ago, luke_bristol said: Roy Keane and the rest are going way over the top in the criticism on itv, the truth is Germany were outstanding all over the pitch, incredible movement and some great finishes. Think they were spot on tbf,Scotland were truly shocking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MythikRobins Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Nagelsmann is one of the best managers (arguably the best) at the tournament. If we do get far enough I'm not looking forward to playing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 1 hour ago, 1team said: Sadly this is a reflection of how the game has dumbed down both for the people playing and watching. Gerry Gow would've been off in the 1st 5 mins of most games nowadays. Don't get the Scottish hating. It's called tit for tat, and I will give you one guess who started it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, 1team said: If you're a minority who has historically been abused by your bigger more controlling neighbour I think a bit of anger is to be expected. I'm not Scottish by the way. If you mean having free education at universities, free bus travel at 60, and free prescriptions eye tests and hospital parking, then that's a funny definition of abuse, don't you agree? Edited June 14 by pillred 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bris Red said: Is what it is for Scotland, a small country of only 4 million just qualifying is a success for them i guess.. Last time I looked Croatia had less than that. And Scotland has a population of over 5 million. Edited June 14 by pillred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 1 hour ago, redkev said: Albania are decent Seen a prediction for them to finish ahead of Croatia into 3rd which is bold! A BBC pundit I think but navigating a group containing Poland and Czech Republic is solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Trouble for Scotland is any defensive game plan went out of the window after 10 minutes and they didn't know how to respond. Depends how much this dents their confidence too. I mean obviously the next 2 games shouldn't be as one sided but be up to Scotland to improve greatly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prankerd Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 The problem with Scotland was they played for the draw, the tactics were so wrong and they had no plan B when Germany scored early... I do feel for Scotland fans, with that goal difference they need at least 4 points now to even get best 3rd place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 For me, Scotland were never gonna get a result playing their current way, playing out from goal-kicks, building through possession. Germany swarmed them. A tactical masterclass from Nagelsman? Not really. Just poor from Clarke. Early on (opening 5 mins) the 3 German forwards played on the shoulder of the 3 Scotland CBs forcing Robertson to cover Tierney inside, although Ralston still played high. But that early ball over the top where Wirtz almost lobbed Gunn petrified them. So they then dropped deeper, which then allowed Havertz to occupy all 3 CBs whilst Musiala and Wirtz positioned themselves cleverly in space. What they also did was play close the McTominay and McGregor, so any time they got on the ball they weren’t necessarily worried about Andrich and Gundogan ahead of them but the two no10 sniping at their heels. Ive never seen McGregor looked so rushed. So a couple of long balls in the opening 5 minutes dragged Scotland deep and set up Germany to overload them thereafter. With the ball, Scotland could t gain territory. Adams doing shuttle runs between Kroos, Rudiger and Tah, had no energy when the ball found him, and being isolated he then lost it. 2-0 down and avoiding a third from a VAR changed pen…Clarke reacted. He switched from 541 to 532, putting Christie alongside Adams to share the shuttle run burden. For 10 mins it was better. A few loose headers from balls hit up to Adams and Christie found Scotland shirts, and they earned a few set-pieces. But then Porteous ruined it all. I don’t think Scotland were combing back from 2-0 by any stretch, but any chance of getting some credit then disappeared. For me, it was a simple failure of approach initially, and then failure to react at 1-0, let alone 2-0. They should’ve started by playing direct, get the ball deep into German territory and squeeze up, get players attached to Adams. Make Germany think this is gonna be a tough night. The reality was it couldn’t have been easier. In a way I’m glad McCrorie and Conway weren’t exposed. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severn Beach Pigeon Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 5 minutes ago, Davefevs said: In a way I’m glad McCrorie and Conway weren’t exposed. After the video of the guy in the kilt on German TV earlier, I think we're all glad Tommy and Ross weren't exposed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks 1969 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 3 hours ago, Davefevs said: For me, Scotland were never gonna get a result playing their current way, playing out from goal-kicks, building through possession. Germany swarmed them. A tactical masterclass from Nagelsman? Not really. Just poor from Clarke. Early on (opening 5 mins) the 3 German forwards played on the shoulder of the 3 Scotland CBs forcing Robertson to cover Tierney inside, although Ralston still played high. But that early ball over the top where Wirtz almost lobbed Gunn petrified them. So they then dropped deeper, which then allowed Havertz to occupy all 3 CBs whilst Musiala and Wirtz positioned themselves cleverly in space. What they also did was play close the McTominay and McGregor, so any time they got on the ball they weren’t necessarily worried about Andrich and Gundogan ahead of them but the two no10 sniping at their heels. Ive never seen McGregor looked so rushed. So a couple of long balls in the opening 5 minutes dragged Scotland deep and set up Germany to overload them thereafter. With the ball, Scotland could t gain territory. Adams doing shuttle runs between Kroos, Rudiger and Tah, had no energy when the ball found him, and being isolated he then lost it. 2-0 down and avoiding a third from a VAR changed pen…Clarke reacted. He switched from 541 to 532, putting Christie alongside Adams to share the shuttle run burden. For 10 mins it was better. A few loose headers from balls hit up to Adams and Christie found Scotland shirts, and they earned a few set-pieces. But then Porteous ruined it all. I don’t think Scotland were combing back from 2-0 by any stretch, but any chance of getting some credit then disappeared. For me, it was a simple failure of approach initially, and then failure to react at 1-0, let alone 2-0. They should’ve started by playing direct, get the ball deep into German territory and squeeze up, get players attached to Adams. Make Germany think this is gonna be a tough night. The reality was it couldn’t have been easier. In a way I’m glad McCrorie and Conway weren’t exposed. Fantastic post Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Great review @Davefevs I think Dykes was a big miss, specially in being able to go direct . Adams had 7 touches in the German's half and none in the final 3rd, speaks volumes. McCoist flagged the distance between the lines at half time , but Clark should have been screaming for the back 5 to push up much earlier . They sat so deep and made it easy for the Germans to dominate. It can be hard to change that need/want to sit deeper from on the pitch , I don't think you alway notice you are doing it. We have seen it with City often enough , retreating deeper when under pressure, but the coaches should have been going mad at them trying to sit on the edge on their own box so early on . Easy for me to say though. Just looked at the heatmaps , Robertson looks like he got forward a bit but Ralston looks like he was forced to stay level with his own box. While the German FBs look like they played more like wingers. Probably need to beat the Swiss & Hungarians to qualify, getting battered means best 3rd place is unlikely . Then, on that performance beating the other two is unlikely . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 (edited) 10 hours ago, luke_bristol said: Roy Keane and the rest are going way over the top in the criticism on itv, the truth is Germany were outstanding all over the pitch, incredible movement and some great finishes. Maybe they should all pack up and go home from the tournament like he did. Edited June 15 by Super Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 35 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: Great review @Davefevs I think Dykes was a big miss, specially in being able to go direct . Adams had 7 touches in the German's half and none in the final 3rd, speaks volumes. McCoist flagged the distance between the lines at half time , but Clark should have been screaming for the back 5 to push up much earlier . They sat so deep and made it easy for the Germans to dominate. It can be hard to change that need/want to sit deeper from on the pitch , I don't think you alway notice you are doing it. We have seen it with City often enough , retreating deeper when under pressure, but the coaches should have been going mad at them trying to sit on the edge on their own box so early on . Easy for me to say though. Just looked at the heatmaps , Robertson looks like he got forward a bit but Ralston looks like he was forced to stay level with his own box. While the German FBs look like they played more like wingers. Probably need to beat the Swiss & Hungarians to qualify, getting battered means best 3rd place is unlikely . Then, on that performance beating the other two is unlikely . A win and a draw should do it for the Scots, every team with 4 points has gone through since the format changed in 2016 Can't see them picking up any win though against underrated Hungary and perennial overachievers Switzerland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 10 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: A win and a draw should do it for the Scots, every team with 4 points has gone through since the format changed in 2016 Can't see them picking up any win though against underrated Hungary and perennial overachievers Switzerland I think last nights hammering might stop them being one of the best 3rd place teams. But I agree, I can see them finishing with nil points . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstart Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Clarke is out of his depth, I do wonder if the Scots might approach Moyes after the tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 8 hours ago, Davefevs said: For me, Scotland were never gonna get a result playing their current way, playing out from goal-kicks, building through possession. Germany swarmed them. A tactical masterclass from Nagelsman? Not really. Just poor from Clarke. Early on (opening 5 mins) the 3 German forwards played on the shoulder of the 3 Scotland CBs forcing Robertson to cover Tierney inside, although Ralston still played high. But that early ball over the top where Wirtz almost lobbed Gunn petrified them. So they then dropped deeper, which then allowed Havertz to occupy all 3 CBs whilst Musiala and Wirtz positioned themselves cleverly in space. What they also did was play close the McTominay and McGregor, so any time they got on the ball they weren’t necessarily worried about Andrich and Gundogan ahead of them but the two no10 sniping at their heels. Ive never seen McGregor looked so rushed. So a couple of long balls in the opening 5 minutes dragged Scotland deep and set up Germany to overload them thereafter. With the ball, Scotland could t gain territory. Adams doing shuttle runs between Kroos, Rudiger and Tah, had no energy when the ball found him, and being isolated he then lost it. 2-0 down and avoiding a third from a VAR changed pen…Clarke reacted. He switched from 541 to 532, putting Christie alongside Adams to share the shuttle run burden. For 10 mins it was better. A few loose headers from balls hit up to Adams and Christie found Scotland shirts, and they earned a few set-pieces. But then Porteous ruined it all. I don’t think Scotland were combing back from 2-0 by any stretch, but any chance of getting some credit then disappeared. For me, it was a simple failure of approach initially, and then failure to react at 1-0, let alone 2-0. They should’ve started by playing direct, get the ball deep into German territory and squeeze up, get players attached to Adams. Make Germany think this is gonna be a tough night. The reality was it couldn’t have been easier. In a way I’m glad McCrorie and Conway weren’t exposed. Thanks Dave. You rightly make the case that it wasn’t a hard game for Germany, and that Nagelsman didn’t need some tactical masterplan for that game. But at the same time, have to say I was impressed with Germany. They have some great players, and they do use them well. I’m looking forward to seeing them against tougher opposition. McCrorie and Conway: just demonstrates what happens if you leave your best players on the bench all game…….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Hungary have improved significantly in the last decade or so. They may oddly get some joy from Switzerland only because as always, Switzerland do lack a high calibre striker. Perennial weakness of theirs but they can score goals regardless. Scotland getting 1 point at best wouldn't surprise me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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