EURO 2024

[grifty]

3 minutes ago, KegCity said:

We will play much better if we stop shoehorning players into the side. Play the best team, not the best 11 players.

Either play Trent at RB or bench him. Either play foden through the middle or bench him.

I do agree with this. I think Foden just had a stinker of a night rather than anything to do with tactics. The last 10 minutes he couldn’t make a 5 yard pass which isn’t affected by where he plays.

[Kid in the Riot]

27 minutes ago, The Bard said:

He's not a crap manager though is he?

 

3 tournaments Semis, final, quarters. 

Yeah but Middlesbrough 

[KegCity]

7 minutes ago, grifty said:

I do agree with this. I think Foden just had a stinker of a night rather than anything to do with tactics. The last 10 minutes he couldn’t make a 5 yard pass which isn’t affected by where he plays.

He’s consistently poor for England, but either way he’s not our best 10 and he’s not our best left winger. Either drop Bellingham back to sit with Rice or drop Foden and play Eze/Gordon.

[Davefevs]

6 minutes ago, KegCity said:

We will play much better if we stop shoehorning players into the side. Play the best team, not the best 11 players.

Either play Trent at RB or bench him. Either play foden through the middle or bench him.

I do agree with this, hence my unbalanced squad comment earlier.  We probably have a couple of players who aren’t suited to a position / role (TAA / Foden) in the system that Southgate plays.  The problem (?j is the quality of the players that might fit.

The thing I liked about Sven was he picked players he thought were best/ most effective for his system, not necessarily the best club players.  Players like Trevor Sinclair.

[KegCity]

4 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I do agree with this, hence my unbalanced squad comment earlier.  We probably have a couple of players who aren’t suited to a position / role (TAA / Foden) in the system that Southgate plays.  The problem (?j is the quality of the players that might fit.

The thing I liked about Sven was he picked players he thought were best/ most effective for his system, not necessarily the best club players.  Players like Trevor Sinclair.

I think Gordon/Eze and Wharton playing would make us a better team, hopefully we give it a go before the knockout stages.

[Sir Geoff]

20 minutes ago, KegCity said:

We will play much better if we stop shoehorning players into the side. Play the best team, not the best 11 players.

Either play Trent at RB or bench him. Either play foden through the middle or bench him.

Roy Keane was bang on, a few weeks ago on 'Stick to Football' pod.' Basically said if you play Trent as one of the 2, defensively he will be a liability. Good going forward (ala that crossfield pass in the 2nd half). Think Roy was spot on, Trent so nearly cost us a couple of times.

[North London Red]

1 hour ago, Jose said:

I get you don’t rate our team as highly as others but his record against anyone remotely decent is an embarrassment. Isn’t it something stupid like 5 wins in 28 against top ten teams? . 

 

There was a stat the did the rounds on Twitter after we lost to Brazil back in March. I posted on here at the time that it was incorrect; his record against top ten teams is better than that stat suggested. 
 

There’s also the effect whereby any team England beat automatically become a poor team in the critics’ eyes. Plenty were predicting England’s downfall against Colombia and Sweden in 2018; as soon as England got through both games we were told ‘opposition were rubbish, let’s see how you get on against a proper team’. Knock Germany out of the last Euros? Worst German team in history. Beat Italy home and away in qualifying? Worst Italian team in history. Beat the champions of Africa 3-0? You’d never have beaten them if Mane had been playing. Beat a team who’ve finished in the top 3 at the last two world cups (Croatia)? They’re obviously finished as a team. Beat the world’s number 1 ranked team in the nations league? They’re obviously rubbish too. 

[Sir Geoff]

12 minutes ago, KegCity said:

He’s consistently poor for England, but either way he’s not our best 10 and he’s not our best left winger. Either drop Bellingham back to sit with Rice or drop Foden and play Eze/Gordon.

Thought last night was one of his (slightly) better games for England, despite being on the left. Southgate could have given him 10 minutes or so on the right when he took Saka off and put Gordon on the left. I think it was probably a bit of a vote of confidence thing keeping him on for the 90.

[TV Tom]

50 minutes ago, The Bard said:

He's not a crap manager though is he?

 

3 tournaments Semis, final, quarters. 

Serial loser

[TonyTonyTony]

7 minutes ago, TV Tom said:

Serial loser

I muesli agree with you, but not this time

[cityexile]

Ten Hag having a little dig on Dutch TV. Talks a good game…

It’s the vision of the manager [Southgate],” said Ten Hag, after England’s form dipped in the second half after impressing in the opening 45 minutes. “England will take a 1-0 lead, then he [Southgate] decides to start gambling with making his team compact and relying on moments for the remaining minutes of the game.”

Would not argue with the overall sentiment. Seen it posted that the 11 total shots in the game last night was the lowest in the Euros since the 80’s, when it started being measured. Having said that, our closest moment or two did not end up with a shot.

[MarcusX]

17 hours ago, frenchred said:

After being in Marseille that fateful night v Russia, I will never ever believe our press again

Absolute lying ******* the lot of them

I was also there, I'm interested what bit you mean

Only because my memory is a bit foggy on what was reported and I was lucky enough to avoid everything.

I was down on the waterfront moments before the trouble happened but must have got away at the right time after collecting my ticket - and then the trouble in the ground was in the opposite corner from me. I could see it happening but wasn't involved. Afterwards was fine, we were stood outside the ground waiting for mates as all the Russians poured out and there was no trouble whatsoever.

[cidercity1987]

32 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Yeah but Middlesbrough 

I think Southgate is a decent international manager as

a) an acceptable figurehead for the FA

b) with an ability to bring a group together in a harmonious atmosphere

He fails tactically though and for that reason I think he would still be a useless club manager 

 

[Severn Beach Pigeon]

5 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said:

I muesli agree with you, but not this time

Going against the grain I see

[MarcusX]

15 minutes ago, North London Red said:

There was a stat the did the rounds on Twitter after we lost to Brazil back in March. I posted on here at the time that it was incorrect; his record against top ten teams is better than that stat suggested. 
 

There’s also the effect whereby any team England beat automatically become a poor team in the critics’ eyes. Plenty were predicting England’s downfall against Colombia and Sweden in 2018; as soon as England got through both games we were told ‘opposition were rubbish, let’s see how you get on against a proper team’. Knock Germany out of the last Euros? Worst German team in history. Beat Italy home and away in qualifying? Worst Italian team in history. Beat the champions of Africa 3-0? You’d never have beaten them if Mane had been playing. Beat a team who’ve finished in the top 3 at the last two world cups (Croatia)? They’re obviously finished as a team. Beat the world’s number 1 ranked team in the nations league? They’re obviously rubbish too. 

This is absolutely bang on.

Pre-game: England shouldn't take this for granted, Serbia are no mugs

Post-game: Cant believe it's only 1-0 we should have hammered Serbia

There is a culture in this country of loving to hate England and it's frankly embarrasing and bizarre.

Heard so many shit takes from people since the game.

Was it a good all round performance? Absolutely not.

Did we do exactly what was needed eg win the game? Yes.

Before Southgate we were terrible at opening group games... 4/4 for Gareth so far.

I agree with the comments about shoe-horning players in and I'm not sure Foden fits this "style" with the players around him. I think last night gave us more questions than answers but I also think it was a dogged display, a reasonably comfortable clean sheet (they had one shot from range didnt they?) and but for a great save it's 2-0 and games over.

Do I think we win the tournament based on that performance? No course not (but I dont think we win it anyway)

Do I think we'll grow into it and improve? Yes definitely

Were there positives? Several. Bellingham is class and he's ready, Guehi answered some critics, Rice was immense - if not largely under the radar in his work, and we showed a lot of experience to see out the game (except that quick free kick)

We've drawn that in previous years, 2016 for example against Russia. 

[TV Tom]

9 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said:

I muesli agree with you, but not this time

No skin off my porridge Tone, but he would of been sacked ages ago if he was manager of any other big footballing nation

[Phileas Fogg]

2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Not sure about your assessment of England’s quality. I appreciate lots of it is subjective, but I think the only team I’d confidently say is ‘better’ (on paper) at this tournament is France. 

That is an on paper assessment rather than how we function as a cohesive squad though, so I wouldn’t necessarily fancy us against Italy/Spain/Germany as I think this team struggles with disciplined sides that know how to manage games effectively. Likewise at a world level I’d feel the same about Argentina/Brazil. 

That said, no one at this tournament would want to draw England. Outside of France, we’d probably be the least desirable knockout draw.

 

[OneCity]

32 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

I think Southgate is a decent international manager as

a) an acceptable figurehead for the FA

b) with an ability to bring a group together in a harmonious atmosphere

He fails tactically though and for that reason I think he would still be a useless club manager 

 

Saw this belter of a comment on a youtube video of last night's highlights. Pretty much sums it up for me.

"If Southgate discovered a small fire in his kitchen, he’d sit with his hands in his pockets, staring blankly at it and thinking ‘let’s see how this pans out for another half hour before I do anything’.

Then he’d switch the kettle and toaster around and hope for the best"

 

[AppyDAZE]

12 hours ago, Bedred31 said:

Still trying to recover from the (uncharacteristic) utter awfulness of the BBC coverage. Constantly banging on about winning the competition, how Bellingham is the love child re-incarnated of Pele and Beckenbaur, then how it wouldn’t be England if we weren’t suffering, intermixed with embarrassing puns and stupid pre- rehearsed lines. Studio analysis ok but match commentary a complete embarrassment. Better than channel 4 admittedly, but light years away from Motty etc.

Agreed. That commentator was as annoying as they come. So close to watching without the sound up.

[2015]

50 minutes ago, cityexile said:

Ten Hag having a little dig on Dutch TV. Talks a good game…

It’s the vision of the manager [Southgate],” said Ten Hag, after England’s form dipped in the second half after impressing in the opening 45 minutes. “England will take a 1-0 lead, then he [Southgate] decides to start gambling with making his team compact and relying on moments for the remaining minutes of the game.”

Would not argue with the overall sentiment. Seen it posted that the 11 total shots in the game last night was the lowest in the Euros since the 80’s, when it started being measured. Having said that, our closest moment or two did not end up with a shot.

The only thing i'd argue about that though is it seems England can't really win no matter what.

In the past we've gone for it on opening games and lost/drew. Take Euro 2004 for example, probably the best opening performance i've ever seen from any England side, and we lost 2-1. Even worse, Euro 2000 2-0 up vs Portugal in the first 20 minutes, lacked any kind of discipline and ended up losing 3-2. We'd get absolutely crucified if that happened last night. 

Southgate in the KOs I agree, cannot play that style because the likes of France, Spain, Germany, Italy will pick you off, BUT opening game you just get the win and it takes the pressure off and momentum builds.

England can't win no matter what. We're the easiest nation to criticise, until we actually win a major tournament that will never change imo.

Edited June 17 by 2015

[Davefevs]

12 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Not sure about your assessment of England’s quality. I appreciate lots of it is subjective, but I think the only team I’d confidently say is ‘better’ (on paper) at this tournament is France. 

That is an on paper assessment rather than how we function as a cohesive squad though, so I wouldn’t necessarily fancy us against Italy/Spain/Germany as I think this team struggles with disciplined sides that know how to manage games effectively. Likewise at a world level I’d feel the same about Argentina/Brazil. 

That said, no one at this tournament would want to draw England. Outside of France, we’d probably be the least desirable knockout draw.

 

Fair.

But….even if one team France is better than us (and most of us agree France are) that means an expectation of winning the tournament is not reasonable.  Getting the final (assuming the draw allow that’s, I haven’t checked) is met expectations?

[Markthehorn]

1 hour ago, cidercity1987 said:

I think Southgate is a decent international manager as

a) an acceptable figurehead for the FA

b) with an ability to bring a group together in a harmonious atmosphere

He fails tactically though and for that reason I think he would still be a useless club manager 

 

After Big Sam they probably wanted a Southgate type manager and he knew the players coming through who play now.

Not sure there is anyone out who would want the job that we can guarantee would be much better. tbh...

Or play more attacking exciting football

 

[Port Said Red]

I thought that we struggled against a big and physical side, especially in the 2nd half. Even Bellingham was getting knocked around, and I think their Manager did well to get them to channel that aggression in the 2nd half, after the bookings in the 1st half.

I can also understand Rice in particular, dropping very deep at times, it made sense with a defence that has had little experience together, also he was one of the few that could match up physically.

It reminded me a little of the 3-2 WC game against Cameroon many moons ago, but I certainly never felt as nervous as Guy Mowbray who seemed to be almost willing Serbia to score so he could be satisfied with his worries.

I think Serbia will finish second in the group too.

[2015]

Just now, Port Said Red said:

I thought that we struggled against a big and physical side, especially in the 2nd half. Even Bellingham was getting knocked around, and I think their Manager did well to get them to channel that aggression in the 2nd half, after the bookings in the 1st half.

I can also understand Rice in particular, dropping very deep at times, it made sense with a defence that has had little experience together, also he was one of the few that could match up physically.

It reminded me a little of the 3-2 WC game against Cameroon many moons ago, but I certainly never felt as nervous as Guy Mowbray who seemed to be almost willing Serbia to score so he could be satisfied with his worries.

I think Serbia will finish second in the group too.

I hope so. Always been an admirer of Dragan Stojkovic (the manager), the best player most people have never heard of. He was absolutely class back in the 90s, as were Yugoslavia despite the war going on at home.

They're no mugs, several top flight players across the top European leagues - Milinkovic-Savic, Tadic, Vlahovic, Mitrovic, Jovic, Lukic. 

I think they are in for some very even affairs vs Denmark and Slovenia.

[cidercity1987]

23 minutes ago, Markthehorn said:

After Big Sam they probably wanted a Southgate type manager and he knew the players coming through who play now.

Not sure there is anyone out who would want the job that we can guarantee would be much better. tbh...

Or play more attacking exciting football

 

Agree

It feels like the end of his reign though and Potter should be next as he ticks a lot of boxes whilst being better tactically

[SecretSam]

2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

The thing I liked about Sven was he picked players he thought were best/ most effective for his system, not necessarily the best club players.  Players like Trevor Sinclair.

Errrr...Gerrard AND Lampard, but not Carrick?

[Davefevs]

14 minutes ago, SecretSam said:

Errrr...Gerrard AND Lampard, but not Carrick?

Don’t get me started!

I was never a huge Carrick fan, and Gerrard and Lampard’s record together was actually pretty good.

Damm, I started…but I’m finishing there!
 

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/steven-gerrard/gemeinsameSpiele/spieler/3109/gegner/3163

Edited June 17 by Davefevs

[SecretSam]

11 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Don’t get me started!

I was never a huge Carrick fan, and Gerrard and Lampard’s record together was actually pretty good.

Damm, I started…but I’m finishing there!
 

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/steven-gerrard/gemeinsameSpiele/spieler/3109/gegner/3163

And Scholes, not a fan of his, either?

[Davefevs]

2 minutes ago, SecretSam said:

And Scholes, not a fan of his, either?

Loved Scholes.  Best player we had around that time.

Edited June 17 by Davefevs

[Hxj]

1 hour ago, OneCity said:

"If Southgate discovered a small fire in his kitchen, he’d sit with his hands in his pockets, staring blankly at it and thinking ‘let’s see how this pans out for another half hour before I do anything’.

Then he’d switch the kettle and toaster around and hope for the best"

I find this style of commentary interesting.

You could equally say:

"If Southgate discovered a small fire in his kitchen, he’d sit with his hands in his pockets, staring blankly at it and thinking having analysed the risks and the pros and cons of all available actions decided that with the lack of any real threats right ‘let’s see how this pans out for another half hour before I do anything’."

As part of one job I used to run some negotiation training, sadly nothing more exciting than financial/contract stuff.  However convincing people that just because a negotiation was failing, or other side changed tactics, you didn't have to immediately react was hard work.  Leaving matters to boil away for a while isn't a problem, providing you have considered other actions, and found them unattractive. 

It is not always about what is the best option, its often about choosing one which doesn't commit you along a course of action which might create greater regrets.  Sitting on your hands and doing nothing can be incredibly powerful.

[NcnsBcfc]

1 minute ago, Hxj said:

I find this style of commentary interesting.

You could equally say:

"If Southgate discovered a small fire in his kitchen, he’d sit with his hands in his pockets, staring blankly at it and thinking having analysed the risks and the pros and cons of all available actions decided that with the lack of any real threats right ‘let’s see how this pans out for another half hour before I do anything’."

As part of one job I used to run some negotiation training, sadly nothing more exciting than financial/contract stuff.  However convincing people that just because a negotiation was failing, or other side changed tactics, you didn't have to immediately react was hard work.  Leaving matters to boil away for a while isn't a problem, providing you have considered other actions, and found them unattractive. 

It is not always about what is the best option, its often about choosing one which doesn't commit you along a course of action which might create greater regrets.  Sitting on your hands and doing nothing can be incredibly powerful.

Hmm.. reads a bit like Preston away last season 

[The Fat Controller]

Decent strike that

[Port Said Red]

1 minute ago, The Fat Controller said:

Decent strike that

Goal of the tournament so far

[Northern Red]

Tidy.

[Markthehorn]

Awful defending but what a strike .

[Port Said Red]

I have 5 live on as I do some chores and the way the commentator says one of the players name, makes it sound like Matt Bianco, which would be a surprise inclusion.

 

[frenchred]

3 hours ago, MarcusX said:

I was also there, I'm interested what bit you mean

Only because my memory is a bit foggy on what was reported and I was lucky enough to avoid everything.

I was down on the waterfront moments before the trouble happened but must have got away at the right time after collecting my ticket - and then the trouble in the ground was in the opposite corner from me. I could see it happening but wasn't involved. Afterwards was fine, we were stood outside the ground waiting for mates as all the Russians poured out and there was no trouble whatsoever.

I was mainly commenting on our press stating that the trouble was instigated by English fans when they were in fact ambushed by russians who had set up English flags in a pub, as English walked in they were being picked off.

Inside the stadium the Russians actually went into the mixed disabled section and we're randomly taking aim! Again our press said the English were to blame

[Davefevs]

9 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

I have 5 live on as I do some chores and the way the commentator says one of the players name, makes it sound like Matt Bianco, which would be a surprise inclusion.

 

https://youtu.be/NEkB25V_ow8?si=3a_FtQMflyf4PW2T

[Port Said Red]

12 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

https://youtu.be/NEkB25V_ow8?si=3a_FtQMflyf4PW2T

Yes, remember it well. 

[Davefevs]

Strike….two!

(ok colander hands)

Edited June 17 by Davefevs

[Ecko]

Ukraine have been terrible. 

[Wade Wilson]

Absolute prime Euros this. 2pm game most probably scoffed at, screamers galore, underdogs winning. The beautiful game. 

[Sleepy1968]

4 hours ago, Davefevs said:

The thing I liked about Sven was he picked players he thought were best/ most effective for his system, not necessarily the best club players.  Players like Trevor Sinclair.

Sven had a great work/life balance didn't he. I don't expect he spent his nights in bed obsessing over Foden and TAA

[Davefevs]

5 minutes ago, Wade Wilson said:

Absolute prime Euros this. 2pm game most probably scoffed at, screamers galore, underdogs winning. The beautiful game. 

Something magical about the afternoon games isn’t there

[Gert Mare]

33 minutes ago, frenchred said:

I was mainly commenting on our press stating that the trouble was instigated by English fans when they were in fact ambushed by russians who had set up English flags in a pub, as English walked in they were being picked off.

Inside the stadium the Russians actually went into the mixed disabled section and were randomly taking aim! Again our press said the English were to blame

It’s the gutter press at their absolute worst.

Will never forget them offering drunken England fans beer money to start a little scrap in France.

I’m sure the Scots will lap it up and use it as the differentiator between the Tartan Army and English scum. 

[Mr Popodopolous]

Way I see it, Serbia are a decent mid ranking side with some impressive individuals. Thought we may win by 2 instead of 1, but decent side albeit I'd argue that in WC 2018, 2022 I expected more from.

Also won their Nations League group including decisive wins in Sweden and Haaland, Odegaard Norway plus topped Portugal in WC 2022 qualification.

[Mr Popodopolous]

Would we seem a 1-0 qualifying win in Belgrade in which we aren't thatthat stretched unacceptably risk averse? They don't lose at home all that often albeit more in recent years.

[The Nest Egg]

5 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Yes, was just pointing out that the Serbs wouldn't need much more encouragement with England in town.

I've been to Belgrade and you can still see bullet holes in some buildings from the airstrikes. The US embassy was quite a sight too, a three storey building with no windows on the front, and huge fences at the front, due to security risk!

Really want to get to Belgrade next. Would also recommend Sarajevo, a beautiful city that also has the scars of mortar rounds.

[Numero Uno]

Guehi was the biggest positive for me last night. The main question mark on him now is can he do it against a top striker (i.e. a level up from Mitrovic and Valhaovic)? We all know that Jude has top quality so no surprise to see him turn it on at times despite being clearly targeted. Rice was decent when you consider what he was playing with in there and Saka impressed for 45 minutes. Pickford, Walker and Trippier turned up and did a 7/10 job, nothing special but did it nonetheless.

Stones, Foden, Trent and Kane (for an hour) were major disappointments for me and longer into the tournament we need to play a left footed Left Back. Of the subs, the game was made for Gallagher because we turned it into a scrap ourselves!! Ratted around and won us free kicks at the end so we could see the game out - not my favourite player and not a player to bring on at 0-1 but made the latter stages more comfortable for us imo. Bowen was alright and displayed one bit of genuine quality tbf.

For me the Trent experiment failed miserably (one decent shot versus allowing Serbia far too much possession doesn't cut it imo - give France or Spain that level of possession in the hope he plays one brilliant 50 yard pass and see how it goes..........) and should be binned and I would be tempted to give Foden one more game to show his Man City form otherwise it's Eze or Gordon on the left for me (with Luke Shaw ideally). He can't deliver that game after game.

We will be better than that going forward.

[TonyTonyTony]

I would drop Foden for the next game. He isnt as good as Bellingham as a 10 and as a winger Eze / Gordon are better. If England win and its a free game against Slovenia id play Foden as the 10 and either drop Bellingham back or rest him. Southgate has to be ruthless

[Mr Popodopolous]

6 hours ago, TV Tom said:

Southgate tries his best but he's a crap manager, hopefully he ends up at Man Utd or North Bristol  

Whether Southgate is the man is a separate debate, I have doubts certainly in respect of winning a tournament  those key tactical battles albeit midfield was our undoing in 2018, 2021 and to a degree v Holland in 2019 Nations League and even vs the Czechs in the 2019 qualifier over there.

The control issues the midfield seen to be finally sorting themselves out, but vs the other major contenders we'll see.

Italy over there in the first qualifier was a significant improvement on the final but had they regressed too? Bit of both maybe.

[luke_bristol]

Porteous banned for two games after his horror tackle vs germany  

[petehinton]

After last night, we are the First Nation in Euros history to keep 5 straight clean sheets in groups games. 
 

If that were an Italian/German/Spanish side, we’d be praising how well structured and hard to beat they are, and probably longing for it…!!

[Severn Beach Pigeon]

Really poor from Belgium to gift Slovakia a goal

[northsomersetred]

 

 

[Back of the Dolman]

10 minutes ago, transfer reader said:

Really poor from Belgium to gift Slovakia a goal

Credit to the Slovakian player who chased a ball that many would have given up on and put the ball out for a throw in instead of a Belgian goal kick 

[Severn Beach Pigeon]

Just now, Back of the Dolman said:

Credit to the Slovakian player who chased a ball that many would have given up on and put the ball out for a throw in instead of a Belgian goal kick 

Yeah that's fair.

At the time I thought he perhaps could have done more to try to keep the ball in (not that it would have been easy) but they pressed the throw and forced an error from it.

Was the type of ball too many players give up on and just let it run out.

[BanburyRed]

1 hour ago, luke_bristol said:

Porteous banned for two games after his horror tackle vs germany  

Taxi for Porteous.....

[Markthehorn]

1 hour ago, luke_bristol said:

Porteous banned for two games after his horror tackle vs germany  

So can come home then.

Mind you we do get money for his "efforts"

To be wasted no doubt!

[Malago]

1 hour ago, TonyTonyTony said:

I would drop Foden for the next game. He isnt as good as Bellingham as a 10 and as a winger Eze / Gordon are better. If England win and its a free game against Slovenia id play Foden as the 10 and either drop Bellingham back or rest him. Southgate has to be ruthless

Cole Palmer is at the top of his game at the moment deserves a start imho.

[Roger Red Hat]

 

[maxjak]

i have had bigger bumps in the playground..........Slovakia player putting it on IMHO

[IAmNick]

29 minutes ago, Malago said:

Cole Palmer is at the top of his game at the moment deserves a start imho.

This is what peak performance looks like

 

[formerly known as ivan]

Lukaku is so bad

[Back of the Dolman]

13 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Lukaku is so bad

Scores goals though 

[formerly known as ivan]

1 minute ago, Back of the Dolman said:

Scores goals though 

I stand by my comment 

[!james]

Game gone if that's handball.

[DolmanGaz]

VAR now conspiring to ruin the Euro's.

that is a joke of a decision... 

[frenchred]

Var not just shit in this country then!

Edited June 17 by frenchred

[Ecko]

Ridiculous