AshtonGreat Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 10 hours ago, luke_bristol said: Brilliant stuff, amazing how average Portugal are when a referee gets a grip of their nonsense And when they've already qualified in first place and are playing their second team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 10 hours ago, cidercity1987 said: It's more Netherlands who have benefitted from the draw, they are in a very easy quarter through to the semi final I don’t think Romania will be a walkover. They’re very dogged and hard to beat. Wouldn’t be shocked if they pull off an upset. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 12 hours ago, Bris Red said: Ronaldo gets taken off, face like a slapped ass and appears to boot a bottle just before he sits down, the guy is a complete bellend IMO. Sooner he retires the better for me. Must be hard knowing no matter how hard you try and whatever you do, some little guy called Messi is rightly regarded the best ever. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Did anyone else feel like they were constantly watching the wrong game during the third round of group games? I was watching the France match while I should have been watching Austria; watching Belgium while I should have been watching Slovakia; watching Georgia while I should have been watching Turkey, and watching England when I should have been watching Emmerdale. 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 11 hours ago, cidercity1987 said: Slovakia, Italy, Netherlands as most likely seems like a decent run to the final. Its hardly a walkover even if we were on top form I can see Austria getting to the final. I've been impressed with them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepywall Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 56 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: I can see Austria getting to the final. I've been impressed with them Wouldn't be surprised, good side on a decent run of form, they would beat England. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 24 minutes ago, weepywall said: Wouldn't be surprised, good side on a decent run of form, they would beat England. 9/1 for them to reach the final 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 6 hours ago, Jerseybean said: Did anyone else feel like they were constantly watching the wrong game during the third round of group games? I was watching the France match while I should have been watching Austria; watching Belgium while I should have been watching Slovakia; watching Georgia while I should have been watching Turkey, and watching England when I should have been watching Emmerdale. Southgate should have had one of the Dingles in his squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen hump Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 9 minutes ago, downendcity said: Southgate should have had one of the Dingles in his squad. I reckon pickfords got a bit of dingle in him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 7 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: I don’t think Romania will be a walkover. They’re very dogged and hard to beat. Wouldn’t be shocked if they pull off an upset. Netherlands are a bit slow or were vs France, for a draw but meh. Romania on the break v Ukraine however yeah sharp- 3-0, bit more than just dogged really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 19 hours ago, cidercity1987 said: It's more Netherlands who have benefitted from the draw, they are in a very easy quarter through to the semi final It's only eased based on reputation or ranking, not on how the teams are actually playing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 On 26/06/2024 at 14:58, MarcusX said: I don’t want to give them an excuse, but it’s been bizarre. First game was cold, it’s been pouring down for a few days, second game dried up and was reasonable if not a tad warm and then yesterday was 30ish and felt bloody hot. Have to agree it’s been very strange, something isn’t right in the camp. A lot of fragility and as I said before players seem to be scared - something Southgate did well to eradicate in his first few years. This is spot on. It’s been bad but it’s not 2010/2014 levels of bad and yet the fans can’t help but swing from highs to lows. There’s no reasoned debate to be had, I can’t talk to a single person back home about the performances because everyone is just whinging how shit we are. Even had one idiot trying to get a reaction out of a couple of us in the ground last night, moaning all game, calling us shit etc but I’d say generally most people you spoke to outside of the ground could discuss the situation with some sense. He doesn’t deserve things thrown at him, anyone who did that is a manual manipulator. There was also some confrontation towards stones and a few others. It looked like the players families were in the stand to the left of the goal and they went towards them after the game but some fans got confrontational. We’ve scored 2 for starters, same as France. Our goal against Denmark came from Kyle Walker pressing very high and winning the ball back? Last night wasn’t the major improvement many wanted - but it was an improvement. The defence is still solid and Southgate’s subs did make a difference. On another night we could have scored 3 or 4. The offside goal was a very good move and the one that set Palmer up near the end was also great play. We need more of that. I think Southgate may have stumbled across a solution with Mainoo? But I don’t expect any other changes than that for Sunday. Anyway, that’s me home for a couple of days before heading back Saturday. Sorry about claiming that we scored just one goal.........when it was in fact two.............I can only apologise and make it clear that while watching Engerland i enter a comatose state, which means i become sucked into a void of nothingness similar to our Gare's tactics? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 (edited) Wouldn't it be just great that if when Harry or Gareth appear on TV after the latest debacle......that they showed some honesty, and just said " Pheck me we were shit, we can only apologise to the fans who have spent a fortune following us, and all the fans back at home. We really are a shower of shite, and we will do or best to get better" If only? Edited June 27 by maxjak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 5 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Netherlands are a bit slow or were vs France, for a draw but meh. Romania on the break v Ukraine however yeah sharp- 3-0, bit more than just dogged really. Suppose they will point to that offside decision although I guess UEFA thought it was the right call as Atwell has got another game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 Any one want to sell their ticket for the England Slovakia game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter1450 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Never to the dark side said: Edited June 28 by Peter1450 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 1 hour ago, Never to the dark side said: Any one want to sell their ticket for the England Slovakia game? If we make the quarters I'll have one going as I'm away that weekend, although I think the ESTC rules prohibit resale of tickets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 I did buy a ticket for Slovenian game,through one of the ticket master type web sites. Although I think some one offered it to the selling site which then makes it legal,I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 1 hour ago, Never to the dark side said: I did buy a ticket for Slovenian game,through one of the ticket master type web sites. Although I think some one offered it to the selling site which then makes it legal,I think. Depends where they got them from, ESTC members it explicitly says you risk being banned if caught selling or transferring tickets to non-members Whether they will or not I dont know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 How well does Gordon speak. Great interview today and how Southgate, Kane and Rice should be viewing things rather than getting all defensive .A complete breath of fresh air. Start him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 (edited) On 27/06/2024 at 10:45, weepywall said: Wouldn't be surprised, good side on a decent run of form, they would beat England. Depending on which England turned up, both teams playing to their full potential I would back England, and against anyone else left in the tournament, but we know that rarely happens Edited June 28 by pillred 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 1 hour ago, Jose said: How well does Gordon speak. Great interview today and how Southgate, Kane and Rice should be viewing things rather than getting all defensive .A complete breath of fresh air. Start him. Was that before or after he fell off his bike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 2 minutes ago, BanburyRed said: Was that before or after he fell off his bike? After. Perhaps it knocked some sense into him. Done a fair bit of damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 3 hours ago, Jose said: How well does Gordon speak. Great interview today and how Southgate, Kane and Rice should be viewing things rather than getting all defensive .A complete breath of fresh air. Start him. A few of the younger members of the squad do speak really well, Gordon, Bellingham, Mainoo, Saka etc. Very assured and comfortable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 So basically the VAR thought Armstrong played for the foul v Hungary. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cz5rg5p1keko.amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 36 minutes ago, Markthehorn said: So basically the VAR thought Armstrong played for the foul v Hungary. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cz5rg5p1keko.amp Shame the PL dont look for players doing that 99% of pens that are given the player plays for it 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severn Beach Pigeon Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 47 minutes ago, Markthehorn said: So basically the VAR thought Armstrong played for the foul v Hungary. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cz5rg5p1keko.amp I completely agree with them He jumps across the defender and reaches out for his shirt 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 29 minutes ago, transfer reader said: I completely agree with them He jumps across the defender and reaches out for his shirt Certainly not a clear and obvious error which is what VAR should be there to over turn really . Better hope Luke Shaw is fit then ? https://x.com/SkySportsNews/status/1806796681297400167 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Come on Switzerland 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Switzerland all over them, fully expect a 1-0 Italy win... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Lovely aggressive goal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Deserved. I hardly recognise any of these Italian players. They always had some household names 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Lovely goal, terrific movement and control. Should the keeper do better though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Very disappointing. Changes needed at HT. Switzerland have played well though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Switzerland are bang average. Italy are shockingly bad. Low quality game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Sinclair Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Ooof 2-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Pick ee out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back of the Dolman Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 10 minutes ago, mozo said: Switzerland are bang average. Italy are shockingly bad. Low quality game Well if England were as bang average as this Swiss side during the tournament I think we’d be a lot happier 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Fabulous strike! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 5 minutes ago, Back of the Dolman said: Well if England were as bang average as this Swiss side during the tournament I think we’d be a lot happier Yeah, I agree. We've been below average for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 No more "it's coming Rome" (whatever that actually meant" More like "they're going home" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 (edited) 27 minutes ago, mozo said: Switzerland are bang average. Italy are shockingly bad. Low quality game Agree on point 2. Switzerland last tournament and between tournaments they're not bad..not particularly shocked. Edited June 29 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Not a fluke score well deserved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Italy are so bad they make England look competent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 My 50p on Switzerland to go through looking okay at the mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 How the bloody hell did we let these win it three years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 3 minutes ago, Davefevs said: My 50p on Switzerland to go through looking okay at the mo Put another 50p on then to reach the semis! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen hump Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 1 minute ago, BCFCGav said: How the bloody hell did we let these win it three years ago. Missing 2 quality centre half’s from that side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fpcity Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 43 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: Deserved. I hardly recognise any of these Italian players. They always had some household names A lot of top teams are like that now. Italy, Brazil, Holland, Argentina. Could pretty much name a 11 years ago but now lucky if you know 4-5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: How the bloody hell did we let these win it three years ago. Very different side and we had a less balanced side too. 35 unbeaten coming in, much weaker Italy now IMO. Read some tactical reports of the game. Edited June 29 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Fpcity said: A lot of top teams are like that now. Italy, Brazil, Holland, Argentina. Could pretty much name a 11 years ago but now lucky if you know 4-5 If by well known you mean shining in our PL but the PL isn't the be all and end all. It's a very good League yes. Although having said that I do wonder if International football as a while is weaker than 15-20 years Idk. Less top squads around. 5 minutes ago, Glen hump said: Missing 2 quality centre half’s from that side. Verrattti also helped to control tempo, they've clearly declined sharply. Edited June 29 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 1 minute ago, Fpcity said: A lot of top teams are like that now. Italy, Brazil, Holland, Argentina. Could pretty much name a 11 years ago but now lucky if you know 4-5 Brazil starting to look strong again with Vini Jr, Rodrigo and Guimaraes, as well as the obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Swiss v Italy...............Danny Murphy "I think a third would kill it"................No shit Sherlock? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fpcity Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said: If by well known you mean shining in our PL but the PL isn't the be all and end all. It's a very good League yes. Verrattti also helped to control tempo, they've clearly declined sharply. No years ago you'd know them in Italian, Spanish leagues, top teams in Holland and Germany. Infact there would be less here playing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcredandwhite Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: How the bloody hell did we let these win it three years ago. Easy. Sitting on a 1 goal lead trying to defend the rest of the game out for the win - inviting them to attack - getting caught out by conceding and losing on penalties. Sounds familiar……? Edited June 29 by bcfcredandwhite Add word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Just now, maxjak said: Swiss v Italy...............Danny Murphy "I think a third would kill it"................No shit Sherlock? Expert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fpcity Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 3 minutes ago, mozo said: Brazil starting to look strong again with Vini Jr, Rodrigo and Guimaraes, as well as the obvious. Still not as strong as 15+ yrs ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Just now, Fpcity said: No years ago you'd know them in Italian, Spanish leagues, top teams in Holland and Germany. Infact there would be less here playing Fair. I do sometimes look at International football and wonder if s lot of top and 2nd level down sides have weakened from the 2000s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Sinclair Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 10 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: How the bloody hell did we let these win it three years ago. Because we had / have a halfwit in charge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 (edited) 8 minutes ago, bcfcredandwhite said: Easy. Sitting on a 1 goal lead trying to defend the rest of the game out for the win - getting caught out by conceding and losing on penalties. Sounds familiar……? To a degree although this is rather dismissive of the very good midfield unit we were up against. We can be quite dismissive over here though, if they aren't shining in our top League eh well. 5 minutes ago, Ronnie Sinclair said: Because we had / have a halfwit in charge If you're comparing Italy side as a whole of 3 years ago as a whole to now, I'd suggest with respect you don't know very much about it. 35 unbeaten, full of confidence, pride restored, dominating and outplaying most opposition as they were by July 2021. It's a fairly ridiculous comparison, no offence and they declined thereafter by the late Autumn of 2021. Otoh we were tactically flawed. Edited June 29 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 13 minutes ago, mozo said: Put another 50p on then to reach the semis! Against Slovakia… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fpcity Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Fair. I do sometimes look at International football and wonder if s lot of top and 2nd level down sides have weakened from the 2000s. Definitely has. Maybe because there's less flair players particularly in the Brazil team. Italy always had great defenders and strikers. Holland exciting players in midfield. France has probably stayed around same. Argentina don't seem to have many players playing for the elite teams from what I can think. But in turn I think some of the lower down teams have got better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 5 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Against Slovakia… Austria! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Fpcity said: Definitely has. Maybe because there's less flair players particularly in the Brazil team. Italy always had great defenders and strikers. Holland exciting players in midfield. France has probably stayed around same. Argentina don't seem to have many players playing for the elite teams from what I can think. But in turn I think some of the lower down teams have got better. France had a huge decline for a time, or boom and bust under Domenech but they are back up there again. Germany are strange I look at them on paper and a lot are playing top Leagues. Yet 2 World Cups and a Euros they were very underwhelming. Good attacking and possession stats, but terrible results. Argentina are probably on the slide now. They have Martinez and Alvarez for 2, Messi is towards the end. Yeah possibly some stars supported by hard working squad players. Well coached? Definitely Brazil. Italy are strange, they went through a phase of some very good midfielders, the 3 I mentioned plus some others but steadily weaker in other areas. Some have got better for sure, not least Switzerland and Belgium. Turkey, Ukraine, Romania overall all less technical maybe and Bulgaria disappeared entirely. Serbia and before them.Yugoslavia and Serbia and Montenegro seem to underachieve no matter the year at tournaments. I look at their squad and who they play for at recent tournaments and their qualifiers to get there and think they're decent and yet. Edited June 29 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fpcity Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: France had a huge decline for a time, or boom and bust under Domenech but they are back up there again. Germany are strange I look at them on paper and a lot are playing top Leagues. Yet 2 World Cups and a Euros they were very underwhelming. Good attacking and possession stats, but terrible results. Argentina are probably on the slide now. They have Martinez and Alvarez for 2, Messi is towards the end. Yeah possibly some stars supported by hard working squad players. Well coached? Definitely Brazil. Italy are strange, they went through a phase of some very good midfielders, the 3 I mentioned plus some others but steadily weaker in other areas. Some have got better for sure, not least Switzerland and Belgium. Turkey, Ukraine, Romania overall all less technical maybe and Bulgaria disappeared entirely. Serbia and before them.Yugoslavia and Serbia and Montenegro seem to underachieve no matter the year at tournaments. I look at their squad and who they play for at recent tournaments and their qualifiers to get there and think they're decent and yet. Some of the Asians teams are better especially Japan. Australia used to have some household names, mainly playing here. None I can think now. I do think the African teams though have declined thinking about it though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said: France had a huge decline for a time, or boom and bust under Domenech but they are back up there again. Germany are strange I look at them on paper and a lot are playing top Leagues. Yet 2 World Cups and a Euros they were very underwhelming. Good attacking and possession stats, but terrible results. Argentina are probably on the slide now. They have Martinez and Alvarez for 2, Messi is towards the end. Yeah possibly some stars supported by hard working squad players. Well coached? Definitely Brazil. Italy are strange, they went through a phase of some very good midfielders, the 3 I mentioned plus some others but steadily weaker in other areas. Some have got better for sure, not least Switzerland and Belgium. Turkey, Ukraine, Romania overall all less technical maybe and Bulgaria disappeared entirely. Serbia and before them.Yugoslavia and Serbia and Montenegro seem to underachieve no matter the year at tournaments. I look at their squad and who they play for at recent tournaments and their qualifiers to get there and think they're decent and yet. Germany crumbled for a period of 2/3 tournaments, but they're in a much better place than they have been since 2016. Rebuilding nicely and some gigh quality young players in Musiala and Wirtz. Italy are so lacking in talent. Just solid, unspectacular players with very little character. I'm not sure about France. Better on paper than on the pitch imo. Griezmann isn't the menace he once was and beyond Mbappe they don't have many goalscorers. Spain are interesting. Not many players that could sell a product but they're clicking again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 31 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: How the bloody hell did we let these win it three years ago. Because it was three years ago 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 I wasn’t expecting a lot but certainly hoped for more than that. Disappointing. Wouldn’t put it past Switzerland getting to the semi finals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 I feel like I’ve just watched a pre season friendly where one team really couldn’t care less ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Wow. WTF is wrong with Italy? Stuck in first gear… Well done Switzerland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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