Merrick's Marvels Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, INCRED said: Not sure where people get £5m as our summer transfer budget? Getting 4 x forward/attacking players will be £10m minimum and I don’t think that’s an unrealistic figure especially if we are seeking better value on the continent There's no way we're spending 10 million quid this summer without selling. In my opinion. On all the evidence currently in the public domain, I don't see how anyone can think that's likely. Doesn't mean we won't of course - there's lots of stuff not in the public domain and for good reason. But based on what we've been told so far, a 10 million spend this summer without selling anyone seems unlikely- to me. If we do, I'll be very happy and very surprised. At the end of the season we were told we wanted a 7,9&10. No talk of wanting to sell Conway at that stage. So that was the summer budget - 3 players. And yeah if anyone left, they'd need replacing. Today, we're told the no.7 is done and 2 other strikers have agreed to join. So I reckon that's the budget spent. What's changed - and what might eventually mean we spend "10M" or whatever - is the fact Conway has decided to leave. That's changed things. Now the money we think we can get for him will pay for Twine. In other words, we're seeing "what football earns, football can spend" in action. The curveball today has been the news we're after 2 more - 1 of which is Twine presumably? Maybe the other is a bit of forward planning seeing as Wells has only 1 year left? But the only way we're spending "10M" and getting 5 players in not 3, is because players (Conway?) are leaving. Which wasn't our preferred Plan A for this summer (even though we knew it was likely). I'll be delighted if we buy so many attacking players as that is so obviously where we're not up to scratch. Finding the right strikers and creative types might just be transformative, as there's otherwise not much wrong with our defenders and midfielders. An interesting couple of weeks ahead Edited June 26 by Merrick's Marvels 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 7 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: There's no way we're spending 10 million quid this summer without selling. In my opinion. On all the evidence currently in the public domain, I don't see how anyone can think that's likely. Doesn't mean we won't of course - there's lots of stuff not in the public domain and for good reason. But based on what we've been told so far, a 10 million spend this summer without selling anyone seems unlikely- to me. If we do, I'll be very happy and very surprised. At the end of the season we were told we want a 7,9&10. No talk of wanting to sell Conway at that stage. So that was the summer budget - 3 players. And yeah if anyone left, they'd need replacing. Today, we're told the no.7 is done and 2 other strikers have agreed to join. So I reckon that's the budget spent. What's changed - and what might eventually mean we spend "10M" or whatever - is the fact Conway has decided to leave. That's changed things. Now the money we think we can get for him will pay for Twine. In other words, we're seeing "what football earns, football can spend" in action. The curveball today has been the news we're after 2 more - 1 of which is Twine presumably? Maybe the other is a bit of forward planning seeing as Wells has only 1 year left? But the only way we're spending "10M" and getting 5 players in not 3, is because players (Conway?) are leaving. Which wasn't our preferred Plan A for this summer but we probably knew was likely. I'll be delighted if we buy so many attacking players as that is so obviously where we're not up to scratch. Finding the right strikers and creative types might just be transformative, as there's otherwise not much wrong with our defenders and midfielders. An interesting couple of weeks ahead Agree with all of this & would just add I think we are after 4 players because Conway & Cornick will both leave. Even in this scenario I still don’t reckon we’ll spend as much as £10m, especially if we can get Twine for another year on loan. Loan fee probably £1m, plus all his wages, other 3 signings a maximum of £6m. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 (edited) 3 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Agree with all of this & would just add I think we are after 4 players because Conway & Cornick will both leave. Even in this scenario I still don’t reckon we’ll spend as much as £10m, especially if we can get Twine for another year on loan. Loan fee probably £1m, plus all his wages, other 3 signings a maximum of £6m. Yes, I keep forgetting the possibility of a season long loan for Twine. That would make sense, and seem increasingly likely, given the number of signings we seemingly have "in the bag" already plus what has been publicly stated about our budget constraints. They might just be bluffing, of course, but that's not the owner's style. Edited June 26 by Merrick's Marvels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 16 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: There's no way we're spending 10 million quid this summer without selling. In my opinion Tinnion implied we wouldn't spend big when he said we had to be smarter than other clubs in recruitment. I'm with him on that as I don't want us going back to the overspending days. Whether any fee for Tommy will make a significant difference depends on whether Steve wants to use some or all of it to reduce the amount he puts in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Smarter is fine up to a point but It can go too far both ways. How about smarter for the bulk then try for one or two high end loans a season to round off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 25 minutes ago, chinapig said: Tinnion implied we wouldn't spend big when he said we had to be smarter than other clubs in recruitment. I'm with him on that as I don't want us going back to the overspending days. Whether any fee for Tommy will make a significant difference depends on whether Steve wants to use some or all of it to reduce the amount he puts in. Mayulu at £3m is relatively smart tbh, may need some adaption but think he'll either come good for us in 12-18 months or he hits the ground running and we profit off him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Lrrr said: Mayulu at £3m is relatively smart tbh, may need some adaption but think he'll either come good for us in 12-18 months or he hits the ground running and we profit off him. Oh great let's sell to profit. How can we build something if if is buy to sell, not back to that shit again. Granted pre Covid was different times, then FFP we kind of had to but.. Nest egg?? Edited June 26 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 8 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Oh great let's sell to profit. How can we build something if if is buy to sell, not back to that shit again. Granted pre Covid was different times, then FFP we kind of had to but.. Nest egg?? The only way we sell quickly is if he has a very good season, kind of the reason we buy players is to play well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Lrrr said: The only way we sell quickly is if he has a very good season, kind of the reason we buy players is to play well I get that but we should stand firm more readily. Jordan James- Birmingham, remained. Whittaker- Plymouth, remained. Clarke and Bellingham- Sunderland, remains to be seen. £25-30m and £20m. May price them out. Otoh Wharton, Scott, Rogers. Once we have become financially in a better place it's up to SL but we really have to try and keep and build. Edited June 26 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I get that but we should stand firm more readily. Jordan James- Birmingham, remained. So far... Whittaker- Plymouth, remained. So far... Clarke and Bellingham- Sunderland, remains to be seen. £25-30m and £20m. May price them out. So far... Otoh Wharton, Scott, Rogers. Once we have become financially in a better place it's up to SL but we really have to try and keep and build. Still plenty of time in the window, as for January just gone, its not a window people often want to make moves like that in as 6 months as it can be an entirely different landscape, so rejecting offers in January is very different to rejecting offers in a summer and I'm not advocating that we would sell in a January window. Edited June 26 by Lrrr 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 7 minutes ago, Lrrr said: Still plenty of time in the window, as for January just gone, its not a window people often want to make moves like that in as 6 months as it can be an entirely different landscape, so rejecting offers in January is very different to rejecting offers in a summer and I'm not advocating that we would sell in a January window. It is a difficult one. I'm not saying never sell, Dai Yongge at Reading did this and it backfired, Chansiri to an extent. I do think those price tags will price the Sunderland pair out of a move in the summer..and in a sense if you are a compliant club and the player has a decent contract length you hold the cards. Plymouth and Whittaker harder to say and Birmingham did get relegated of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 1 hour ago, Lrrr said: Mayulu at £3m is relatively smart tbh, may need some adaption but think he'll either come good for us in 12-18 months or he hits the ground running and we profit off him. Been watching a bit of WS tonight…gotta use those minutes!! Was quite impressed how he rolls inside off of his man, and quickly into his stride. I thought the goals clips I put up me gave the impression of good feet but a bit awkward in his movement. So this feels a bit of a bonus. I like his movement in the box, rarely still, looking to go near to far or vice-versa. Of course equating Austrian Bundesliga to Championship isn’t easy. And worth recognising that at 21 he’s not only not the finished article, but first season at this level, and pretty much he either starts and subbed off, or subbed on…28 league apps / 15 90s / 47 mins per match, so still developing (a positive too). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Any updates on this potential signing ? Personally think Scott Parker will want to assess the squad in full before he says who stays and goes Parker red hot favourite for the job up there now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 1 minute ago, Dolman Block B said: Any updates on this potential signing ? Personally think Scott Parker will want to assess the squad in full before he says who stays and goes Parker red hot favourite for the job up there now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC31 Posted July 2 Author Share Posted July 2 Depends twine might train well and have a good pre season and play his way into the starting XI up there in which case we have no chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLRed Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Think this one will die a death tbh. Always did as soon as burnley were getting relegated. Why would they sell a championship capable player to a rival when he could offset any other players that may want out in a similar position... I hope we have a good alternative option lined up 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 4 minutes ago, BLRed said: Think this one will die a death tbh. Always did as soon as burnley were getting relegated. Why would they sell a championship capable player to a rival when he could offset any other players that may want out in a similar position... I hope we have a good alternative option lined up And, IMO, that would be a good thing. He showed nowhere near enough to suggest he should be a key signing when he was here in his loan spell and signing him - while backing the manager - would be the epitome of a bloody stupid deal. We’ve seen him. We know he’s not great. We know he doesn’t want to do it with back to the wall (see Huddersfield). 1 excellent game out of 8, and that against a relegated side? Absolutely no way we should touch him at the mooted fee. And if Scott Parker rates him, that just confirms that opinion. The man struggles with knitwear, let alone midfielders. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 5 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: And, IMO, that would be a good thing. He showed nowhere near enough to suggest he should be a key signing when he was here in his loan spell and signing him - while backing the manager - would be the epitome of a bloody stupid deal. We’ve seen him. We know he’s not great. We know he doesn’t want to do it with back to the wall (see Huddersfield). 1 excellent game out of 8, and that against a relegated side? Absolutely no way we should touch him at the mooted fee. And if Scott Parker rates him, that just confirms that opinion. The man struggles with knitwear, let alone midfielders. Irrelevant. Liam Manning wants him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bcfc24 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 40 minutes ago, BLRed said: Think this one will die a death tbh. Always did as soon as burnley were getting relegated. Why would they sell a championship capable player to a rival when he could offset any other players that may want out in a similar position... I hope we have a good alternative option lined up Totally agree no chance we are getting Twine now, see him absolutely fitting what Parker will want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bcfc24 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Time to move on… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Nixon is such a bellend, adamant it was Lampard, then the Danish boss… 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 1 hour ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Irrelevant. Liam Manning wants him. And there has, to date, been nothing to suggest that Liam Manning knows a good footballer any more than Helen Keller does. I don’t disagree with you that the outcome will be that we’ll sign Twine (likely for a massively inflated fee), but it’s in no way a sensible move 6 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 On loan this week I reckon. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Are Burnley genuinely going to do anything until a new manager comes in a reviews the squad?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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petehinton Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 7 hours ago, formerly known as ivan said: Are Burnley genuinely going to do anything until a new manager comes in a reviews the squad?? They’ve already made signings without a manager! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Genuinely rather we move on. He’s never performed at this level, he was superb in League 1 but there is a gap in general unless you are an Ipswich and Birmingham with money. I am sure there are some good better value options in the market we are shopping in. 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 11 hours ago, BLRed said: Think this one will die a death tbh. Always did as soon as burnley were getting relegated. Why would they sell a championship capable player to a rival when he could offset any other players that may want out in a similar position... I hope we have a good alternative option lined up We do have an alternative lined up, considerably less in cost, don't know the name so don't know if it's good,! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 9 minutes ago, frenchred said: We do have an alternative lined up, considerably less in cost, don't know the name so don't know if it's good,! Massive gamble if it is who I’ve heard. If we have learned anything this month those on here claiming SL would back Manning heavily are dreaming. £2.5m at the very most for Mayulu, a nominal fee to borrow the Japanese player, £2m for the Croatian & haggling to get Twine on loan. Not willing to pay the asking price for him or the Auxerre player. Barely £6m all in & if Conway leaves that is more than half of that back & very little likelihood of any more expenditure. 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLRed Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 26 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Massive gamble if it is who I’ve heard. Can you not divulge who you have heard? Be interested to get a general consensus of opinion on who he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The hand of RO'D Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 39 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Massive gamble if it is who I’ve heard. If we have learned anything this month those on here claiming SL would back Manning heavily are dreaming. £2.5m at the very most for Mayulu, a nominal fee to borrow the Japanese player, £2m for the Croatian & haggling to get Twine on loan. Not willing to pay the asking price for him or the Auxerre player. Barely £6m all in & if Conway leaves that is more than half of that back & very little likelihood of any more expenditure. To be honest with you I’d be happy with that if that’s how we look at the end of the transfer window. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 23 minutes ago, The hand of RO'D said: To be honest with you I’d be happy with that if that’s how we look at the end of the transfer window. Personally would prefer to keep Conway and play to his strengths, tell Sykes this is his season and he will be played high on the right and have kept SPH to play his part from the bench. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 44 minutes ago, BLRed said: Can you not divulge who you have heard? Be interested to get a general consensus of opinion on who he is No, that wouldn’t be fair on the person who told me. It will all come out in the wash in the next month let’s take a view then, eh? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 31 minutes ago, The hand of RO'D said: To be honest with you I’d be happy with that if that’s how we look at the end of the transfer window. Problem is, despite Tinnion repeatedly telling us “players have agreed to sign”, so far we have one & no certainty whatsoever about any others. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavington Robin Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 20 minutes ago, GrahamC said: No, that wouldn’t be fair on the person who told me. It will all come out in the wash in the next month let’s take a view then, eh? Fair enough. But could you give us an idea in what way a gamble ? I assume not an expensive option, so inexperienced or not, ex. PL or…. ? Thanks for the info & also anything further if you choose to divulge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 4 minutes ago, Lavington Robin said: Fair enough. But could you give us an idea in what way a gamble ? I assume not an expensive option, so inexperienced or not, ex. PL or…. ? Thanks for the info & also anything further if you choose to divulge. Or maybe it's an ex star with a shady past? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 3 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Or maybe it's an ex star with a shady past? It’s….. Bobby “Shadow” Williams then, must be! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 It's one of these two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Notgetinya Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 2 hours ago, GrahamC said: Massive gamble if it is who I’ve heard. If we have learned anything this month those on here claiming SL would back Manning heavily are dreaming. £2.5m at the very most for Mayulu, a nominal fee to borrow the Japanese player, £2m for the Croatian & haggling to get Twine on loan. Not willing to pay the asking price for him or the Auxerre player. Barely £6m all in & if Conway leaves that is more than half of that back & very little likelihood of any more expenditure. Not sure about this. I’d argue 4.5 mil on two players for a champ team is fairly good backing. One loan with option to buy is good business as it may not work out. Not paying asking price for Twine is sensible as he’s not worth anywhere near what Burnley are asking. The Auxerre player probably got a better/more attractive offer. Nobodies asked for your source - hate the “I know something you don’t know” posts 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 3 minutes ago, Eddie Notgetinya said: Not sure about this. I’d argue 4.5 mil on two players for a champ team is fairly good backing. One loan with option to buy is good business as it may not work out. Not paying asking price for Twine is sensible as he’s not worth anywhere near what Burnley are asking. The Auxerre player probably got a better/more attractive offer. Nobodies asked for your source - hate the “I know something you don’t know” posts BLRed asked him for more info. All Graham said was it would be unfair to the person who told him. We know there are alternatives, others have posted as such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95red Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 2 hours ago, GrahamC said: Massive gamble if it is who I’ve heard. If we have learned anything this month those on here claiming SL would back Manning heavily are dreaming. £2.5m at the very most for Mayulu, a nominal fee to borrow the Japanese player, £2m for the Croatian & haggling to get Twine on loan. Not willing to pay the asking price for him or the Auxerre player. Barely £6m all in & if Conway leaves that is more than half of that back & very little likelihood of any more expenditure. Yes bargain basement momey and a gamble ,as said previously 5m tops going out & collecting fees in ,I ain't getting my hopes up . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 52 minutes ago, Lavington Robin said: Fair enough. But could you give us an idea in what way a gamble ? I assume not an expensive option, so inexperienced…. 53 minutes ago, Lavington Robin said: Mebude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 1 hour ago, Sir Geoff said: Personally would prefer to keep Conway and play to his strengths, What to try and get more penalties? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobBobbin Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 2 hours ago, GrahamC said: Massive gamble if it is who I’ve heard. If we have learned anything this month those on here claiming SL would back Manning heavily are dreaming. £2.5m at the very most for Mayulu, a nominal fee to borrow the Japanese player, £2m for the Croatian & haggling to get Twine on loan. Not willing to pay the asking price for him or the Auxerre player. Barely £6m all in & if Conway leaves that is more than half of that back & very little likelihood of any more expenditure. I'm not in any way positive about SL/BT or the way we're being run, but you probably can include Bird (We must have paid more than the compo would have been to secure him), Stokes, the most promising player in NL and Murphy (Not a huge fee, but based on those couple of 21's apps, a very good prospect) in the list, plus the renewal of Joe Williams saves us from having to make another splash at CM. I don't want us to throw cash at it tbh. Other than a back up GK I can't see any holes in the squad if the signings you list all happen. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Notgetinya Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 27 minutes ago, Davefevs said: BLRed asked him for more info. All Graham said was it would be unfair to the person who told him. We know there are alternatives, others have posted as such. The post was More about the other nonsense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLRed Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Who are the suggested alternatives as I can think of any as capable? One reason I would be very disappointed in not signing twine was for his set pieces. For so long we have been crying out for someone with the ability to put in a good corner and be able to score from direct free kicks. He offers that and I don't think anyone else in our squad has that capability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobBobbin Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 7 minutes ago, Eddie Notgetinya said: The post was More about the other nonsense Do you know what's worse than the "I know something you don't know" posts? The "I'm wracked with jealousy that I'm not someone who has any contacts" posts. I for one am always appreciative of anyone passing on something they've heard; More often than not it's wrong or things change to make it outdated, but it adds a bit of colour to the picture we're all interested in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Notgetinya Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 7 minutes ago, BobBobBobbin said: Do you know what's worse than the "I know something you don't know" posts? The "I'm wracked with jealousy that I'm not someone who has any contacts" posts. I for one am always appreciative of anyone passing on something they've heard; More often than not it's wrong or things change to make it outdated, but it adds a bit of colour to the picture we're all interested in. 45 minutes ago, Davefevs said: BLRed asked him for more info. All Graham said was it would be unfair to the person who told him. We know there are alternatives, others have posted as such. He hasn’t passed anything on. Theres nothing to be jealous of, as I said, the post was more about the other comments which I completely disagree with 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 2 hours ago, BLRed said: Can you not divulge who you have heard? Be interested to get a general consensus of opinion on who he is 2 hours ago, GrahamC said: No, that wouldn’t be fair on the person who told me. It will all come out in the wash in the next month let’s take a view then, eh? 1 hour ago, Lavington Robin said: Fair enough. But could you give us an idea in what way a gamble ? I assume not an expensive option, so inexperienced or not, ex. PL or…. ? Thanks for the info & also anything further if you choose to divulge. I’ll help out a bit here. I was told a name a couple of weeks ago and promised to keep it to myself. Which I have done. But I’ve since heard the same name mentioned by a number of other people so I don’t mind giving a little bit of info as I know it’s not going to have come directly from my source or me. I won’t say the name, but I’m told that the ‘number 10’ we may be considering rather than Twine is a “gamble” as Graham put it’d because he has zero experience in England, let alone the Championship. He’s 22, Brazilian and has a total of 18 appearances in the Brazilian Serie A. So whilst it would certainly be a somewhat exciting signing, as Graham says, it’s likely a big gamble too. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 2 minutes ago, Harry said: I’ll help out a bit here. I was told a name a couple of weeks ago and promised to keep it to myself. Which I have done. But I’ve since heard the same name mentioned by a number of other people so I don’t mind giving a little bit of info as I know it’s not going to have come directly from my source or me. I won’t say the name, but I’m told that the ‘number 10’ we may be considering rather than Twine is a “gamble” as Graham put it’d because he has zero experience in England, let alone the Championship. He’s 22, Brazilian and has a total of 18 appearances in the Brazilian Serie A. So whilst it would certainly be a somewhat exciting signing, as Graham says, it’s likely a big gamble too. Is it Bobadilla? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 (edited) 9 minutes ago, DaveF said: Is it Bobadilla? Cant be if we’re signing Yu Hirakawa. All the Japanese are scared shitless of him. Edited July 3 by Silvio Dante 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 30 minutes ago, BLRed said: Who are the suggested alternatives as I can think of any as capable? One reason I would be very disappointed in not signing twine was for his set pieces. For so long we have been crying out for someone with the ability to put in a good corner and be able to score from direct free kicks. He offers that and I don't think anyone else in our squad has that capability. And yet he didn’t take them all in the games he was fit!!! How did that happen? Id said I’d check his assists, based on video clips, 15 assists from MKD onwards: 8 what I’d describe as through balls 3 corners / crosses 1 freekick 3 simple passes (3 seasons / 2 and a bit of playing time due to injury). I was surprised the through balls was as high and the set-pieces so low…you live and learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavington Robin Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 15 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Cant be if we’re signing Yu Hirakawa. All the Japanese are scared shitless of him. You mean Hari-kari Or perhaps we could go for Seppuku I heard he is deadly too ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLRed Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 He does have undeniable quality from a corner delivery and clearly has the ability to take and score direct from free-kicks, something we can't associate with anyone else in our squad. Provides a different dimension to set-pieces rather than the age old short corner failed routine or the inability to beat the first man from numerous other takers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 3 minutes ago, Davefevs said: And yet he didn’t take them all in the games he was fit!!! How did that happen? Id said I’d check his assists, based on video clips, 15 assists from MKD onwards: 8 what I’d describe as through balls 3 corners / crosses 1 freekick 3 simple passes (3 seasons / 2 and a bit of playing time due to injury). I was surprised the through balls was as high and the set-pieces so low…you live and learn. Am I allowed to say that 5 assists a season (or factoring up to say 6-7 to account for the injury time) is pretty underwhelming for a “playmaker” - noting that the real metric should be “big chances created” which should account for the strikers not finishing off opportunities, and there is always the fabled “assist to the assist” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 12 minutes ago, Harry said: I’ll help out a bit here. I was told a name a couple of weeks ago and promised to keep it to myself. Which I have done. But I’ve since heard the same name mentioned by a number of other people so I don’t mind giving a little bit of info as I know it’s not going to have come directly from my source or me. I won’t say the name, but I’m told that the ‘number 10’ we may be considering rather than Twine is a “gamble” as Graham put it’d because he has zero experience in England, let alone the Championship. He’s 22, Brazilian and has a total of 18 appearances in the Brazilian Serie A. So whilst it would certainly be a somewhat exciting signing, as Graham says, it’s likely a big gamble too. This window just gets better and better. A French forward, a Japanese winger, a Croatian target man and now a Brazilian playmaker?! It's like supporting City and playing Champ Man all at the same time. 1 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC31 Posted July 3 Author Share Posted July 3 2 hours ago, GrahamC said: No, that wouldn’t be fair on the person who told me. It will all come out in the wash in the next month let’s take a view then, eh? That's because your chatting shit basically. 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 7 minutes ago, BCFC31 said: That's because your chatting shit basically. Read Harry’s post. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 For the Brazilian - Could be this guy based on what Harry has said. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/matheus-araujo/leistungsdaten/spieler/678853/plus/0?saison=ges 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTIDhc Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 1 minute ago, RedRoss said: For the Brazilian - Could be this guy based on what Harry has said. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/matheus-araujo/leistungsdaten/spieler/678853/plus/0?saison=ges That's the only one who my investigations led me to also 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GrahamC Posted July 3 Popular Post Share Posted July 3 14 minutes ago, BCFC31 said: That's because your chatting shit basically. Imagine going online to insult someone & then not even being able to spell “you’re”… 6 13 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Whilst I am excited by this international approach, we have lost the likes of James, King and Weimann. All of whom have valuable experience and have great leadership qualities. Just hope we find the right balance. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 9 minutes ago, RedRoss said: For the Brazilian - Could be this guy based on what Harry has said. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/matheus-araujo/leistungsdaten/spieler/678853/plus/0?saison=ges Ticks all the boxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 10 minutes ago, RedRoss said: For the Brazilian - Could be this guy based on what Harry has said. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/matheus-araujo/leistungsdaten/spieler/678853/plus/0?saison=ges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 4 minutes ago, TammyAB said: Lots of dubious end product so definitely like for like with Twine! (jk) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderCraig Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 3 minutes ago, TammyAB said: imago imag He's 22, born May 22, 2002 and he'd be signing no.2 of the Summer ..... It's written in the stars, surely! ..... Welcome '2' Ashton Gate, Matheus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 2 minutes ago, CiderCraig said: imago imag He's 22, born May 22, 2002 and he'd be signing no.2 of the Summer ..... It's written in the stars, surely! ..... Welcome '2' Ashton Gate, Matheus! Sounds like a Deep State signing to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 1 hour ago, Harry said: I’ll help out a bit here. I was told a name a couple of weeks ago and promised to keep it to myself. Which I have done. But I’ve since heard the same name mentioned by a number of other people so I don’t mind giving a little bit of info as I know it’s not going to have come directly from my source or me. I won’t say the name, but I’m told that the ‘number 10’ we may be considering rather than Twine is a “gamble” as Graham put it’d because he has zero experience in England, let alone the Championship. He’s 22, Brazilian and has a total of 18 appearances in the Brazilian Serie A. So whilst it would certainly be a somewhat exciting signing, as Graham says, it’s likely a big gamble too. Cant be him then mate. Only played 18 games…. We all know we do such a vigorous scouting job that we watch a player at least 40-50 times live before signing. 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southport Red Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Just now, petehinton said: Cant be him then mate. Only played 18 games…. We all know we do such a vigorous scouting job that we watch a player at least 40-50 times live before signing. Could’ve done the other 32 on Champ Manager? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cov 77 Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 3 hours ago, GrahamC said: Problem is, despite Tinnion repeatedly telling us “players have agreed to sign”, so far we have one & no certainty whatsoever about any others. I think Tinnion said good news on two and paperwork being done but if they are from various parts of the world , Japan etc that paperwork may take a while eg clearances etc they are moving them forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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