Silvio Dante Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 7 hours ago, Robbored said: You said exactly the same thing when I was on about signing Barry Bannon who at the time had about two or maybe three seasons left in him. The overall point of ‘accommodating’ a gifted midfielder is surely down to the manager and his coaches to manipulate the starting 11 to get the best out said player? …………. We know that LM has worked with Twine before and knows what skills he’d bring and no doubt at all LM would like to see sign for City assuming that the price is agreeable. Hang on, you fancied Barry Bannan as a player? Why are we only hearing about this now? 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 8 hours ago, Bcfc24 said: Ian G saying Twine deal could go to deadline day, imo that would be absolutely ridiculous if we wait till deadline day for him, move on for goodness sake You really need to learn how football transfers work, it's not like in football manager, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 2 hours ago, Nugget said: Stokes, Anis, Benarous could all play the role but this looks like LM’s no.1 target. If it weren’t for injuries I think even Naismith could do a job there. Don't think we can really include Benarous in plans, just because of how injury prone he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Crayola Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 9 hours ago, Davefevs said: now he’s asking one of them to train with the u21s, whilst the other is playing for Burnley in preseason. I must have missed this. Where's this information from? Hoping its just people sh*t stirring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 2 minutes ago, Crimson Crayola said: I must have missed this. Where's this information from? Hoping its just people sh*t stirring. Posted earlier by someone, and believed to be very true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Posted earlier by someone, and believed to be very true. Hmmm. There would be a logical reason for Tommy training with the U21s, and that would be as he’s just back it’s building him up before he joins the main group. If that is the case though, then Ross should also be training there. If it’s a case of we’re playing hardball because of the contract situation, some may applaud that. I don’t. We’re severely lacking in forward options - Nakhi being at the tail end of career, Fally a very unknown quantity, Bell very much unproven in that role and Cornick widely seen as not up to scratch. It’d be massively cutting nose off to spite face. In addition, I’m not sure a man who walked out on the club who rehabilitated his career is in any position to make such a gesture to his players! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted July 18 Admin Share Posted July 18 22 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Hmmm. There would be a logical reason for Tommy training with the U21s, and that would be as he’s just back it’s building him up before he joins the main group. If that is the case though, then Ross should also be training there. Surely it's exactly just this, one group are up to speed and one has just returned from a break - people looking for a story that is not there? Though if he has made it clear he doesn't want to play this season I see nothing wrong in keeping him away from the squad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 4 hours ago, Silvio Dante said: Hmmm. There would be a logical reason for Tommy training with the U21s, and that would be as he’s just back it’s building him up before he joins the main group. If that is the case though, then Ross should also be training there. If it’s a case of we’re playing hardball because of the contract situation, some may applaud that. I don’t. We’re severely lacking in forward options - Nakhi being at the tail end of career, Fally a very unknown quantity, Bell very much unproven in that role and Cornick widely seen as not up to scratch. It’d be massively cutting nose off to spite face. In addition, I’m not sure a man who walked out on the club who rehabilitated his career is in any position to make such a gesture to his players! Before I say this, I have no knowledge if it is the case, but wouldn't it depend on what condition they have returned in? The 1st team have done most of their physical work and are doing tactical and mini game sessions, the U21's are still in physical work sessions I believe, so maybe that's another reason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted July 18 Admin Share Posted July 18 1 hour ago, Port Said Red said: Before I say this, I have no knowledge if it is the case, but wouldn't it depend on what condition they have returned in? The 1st team have done most of their physical work and are doing tactical and mini game sessions, the U21's are still in physical work sessions I believe, so maybe that's another reason? The question I'd then ask would be "what about Ross?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 23 minutes ago, Ian M said: The question I'd then ask would be "what about Ross?" Which is why I mentioned "condition", it could be an individual thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 1 minute ago, Port Said Red said: Which is why I mentioned "condition", it could be an individual thing? Has it been verified that TC is with the U21s ? Other than the rumour on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted July 18 Admin Share Posted July 18 1 minute ago, Port Said Red said: Which is why I mentioned "condition", it could be an individual thing? He'll have done well to decondition himself during the brief time between Scotland's exit and returning to training. Especially if you consider he's evidently keen to progress his career up a level? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cov 77 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 1 minute ago, Ian M said: He'll have done well to decondition himself during the brief time between Scotland's exit and returning to training. Especially if you consider he's evidently keen to progress his career up a level? Has TC invaded every other posting, Scott Twine ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red panda Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Oh goody, another Conway thread .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 1 minute ago, bcfc01 said: Has it been verified that TC is with the U21s ? Other than the rumour on here. Not as far as I know. Just now, Ian M said: He'll have done well to decondition himself during the brief time between Scotland's exit and returning to training. Especially if you consider he's evidently keen to progress his career up a level? True, he would have had to have acted very unprofessionally to do so, and as I said I was just postulating another option, I don't know if TC is training with the U21's or even if he is training with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted July 18 Admin Share Posted July 18 12 minutes ago, Cov 77 said: Has TC invaded every other posting, Scott Twine ? As always, threads on OTIB are organic. I don't look at a post and think "that one doesn't belong on this thread title so I won't reply". As long as they stay broadly on topic that's ok by me. I'm not gonna spend 26 hours a day finding appropriate threads to move errant replies to. PS your reply complaining about the TC replies was off-topic. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bcfc24 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Twine scored a hat trick in a friendly for Burnley yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 20 minutes ago, Bcfc24 said: Twine scored a hat trick in a friendly for Burnley yesterday I'm sure Mr. Parker will be duly impressed - unless they won 12-0 against a local team.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 3 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: I'm sure Mr. Parker will be duly impressed - unless they won 12-0 against a local team.. That might be quite impressive if it was Blackburn, Preston or one of the Manchester clubs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HengroveReds Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 first impressions on new boss must be impressive, any hatrick especially from midfield catches the eye, fair play to him just hope he’s not impressing to much and hope we don’t chase him to the final day of window can you imagine vs Burnley next season Brownhill Massengo Twine all playing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cov 77 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Just now, HengroveReds said: first impressions on new boss must be impressive, any hatrick especially from midfield catches the eye, fair play to him just hope he’s not impressing to much and hope we don’t chase him to the final day of window can you imagine vs Burnley next season Brownhill Massengo Twine all playing! Have you any idea who they played? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onehowie Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 11 minutes ago, Cov 77 said: Have you any idea who they played? Couldn't see anything on their website or forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 1 hour ago, Bcfc24 said: Twine scored a hat trick in a friendly for Burnley yesterday So Burnley, knowing Twine wants a move away involve him fully in pre season, picking him in the first 11 and he scores a hat trick. Meanwhile at Bristol City we banish our want away player to the U21's. Pathetic. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 29 minutes ago, Cov 77 said: Have you any idea who they played? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 4 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: So Burnley, knowing Twine wants a move away involve him fully in pre season, picking him in the first 11 and he scores a hat trick. Meanwhile at Bristol City we banish our want away player to the U21's. Pathetic. Not quite right Sir G. According to the Burnley forum, it was a training game with multiple changes every 30 minutes for both sides. It certainly wasn't necessarily either first team at any point, more a 'yards in the legs' for everyone, by all accounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 4 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Not quite right Sir G. According to the Burnley forum, it was a training game with multiple changes every 30 minutes for both sides. It certainly wasn't necessarily either first team at any point, more a 'yards in the legs' for everyone, by all accounts. Still fully involved though wasn't he. Which was the point of my post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 (edited) 1 minute ago, Sir Geoff said: Still fully involved though wasn't he. Which was the point of my post. True Sir. As were the rest of their squad I guess. Scoring 3 doesn't help us. Edited July 18 by Ska Junkie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sir Geoff said: So Burnley, knowing Twine wants a move away involve him fully in pre season, picking him in the first 11 and he scores a hat trick. Meanwhile at Bristol City we banish our want away player to the U21's. Pathetic. Not really, player wants to leave turned down 2 contract offers, so why waste valuable coaching time and essentially doing someone else's preseason fitness work for them.... That does not strike me as being pathetic, sounds like the club have done the carrot approach, so time for the stick....Twine still has another couple of years on the contract at least so a slightly different situation Edited July 18 by bexhill reds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 40 minutes ago, bexhill reds said: Not really, player wants to leave turned down 2 contract offers, so why waste valuable coaching time and essentially doing someone else's preseason fitness work for them.... That does not strike me as being pathetic, sounds like the club have done the carrot approach, so time for the stick....Twine still has another couple of years on the contract at least so a slightly different situation Except he is still our employee and until proved otherwise our best centre forward. He may still be here on 1st September. Then what, a wasted pre season because (in your words) Manning didn't waste valuable coaching time with him during the Summer. Sorry but that is just nonsense. Manning is paid to coach and improve the whole squad not pick and choose favourites depending on the length of their contract. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC31 Posted July 18 Author Share Posted July 18 47 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: Except he is still our employee and until proved otherwise our best centre forward. He may still be here on 1st September. Then what, a wasted pre season because (in your words) Manning didn't waste valuable coaching time with him during the Summer. Sorry but that is just nonsense. Manning is paid to coach and improve the whole squad not pick and choose favourites depending on the length of their contract. Give it a rest forget conway he is history and good riddance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 1 hour ago, Sir Geoff said: Except he is still our employee and until proved otherwise our best centre forward. He may still be here on 1st September. Then what, a wasted pre season because (in your words) Manning didn't waste valuable coaching time with him during the Summer. Sorry but that is just nonsense. Manning is paid to coach and improve the whole squad not pick and choose favourites depending on the length of their contract. Totally disagree, Manning is paid and judged to get results ultimately, it's his prerogative to determine what resources he wants to include for this goal nothing to do with favourites or tenure of contract. Do we know what Conway's mindset will be like, do we know that he'll be 100% committed? Turning up for preseason on the allotted date does not prove that, that just means that he's not in breach of contract. Perhaps Manning has sat down with him for a meeting and taken his own gauge on where TC's head is and made the decision that he does not want him in the set up. It's no different to any other organisation really, employee has made it clear that they no longer want to be the company, so the company decides to put them on gardening leave in lieu of notice regardless of their talent because they don't feel that the employee will be an asset in their remaining time. Im not going to knock TC's potential, and on paper he could be our best striker, but will he really be prepared to give 100% to everything on and off the pitch if he's got one eye out the door, to my mind anything less than that then I'd rather be out of the team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted July 18 Admin Share Posted July 18 15 minutes ago, bexhill reds said: Totally disagree, Manning is paid and judged to get results ultimately, it's his prerogative to determine what resources he wants to include for this goal nothing to do with favourites or tenure of contract. Do we know what Conway's mindset will be like, do we know that he'll be 100% committed? Turning up for preseason on the allotted date does not prove that, that just means that he's not in breach of contract. Perhaps Manning has sat down with him for a meeting and taken his own gauge on where TC's head is and made the decision that he does not want him in the set up. It's no different to any other organisation really, employee has made it clear that they no longer want to be the company, so the company decides to put them on gardening leave in lieu of notice regardless of their talent because they don't feel that the employee will be an asset in their remaining time. Im not going to knock TC's potential, and on paper he could be our best striker, but will he really be prepared to give 100% to everything on and off the pitch if he's got one eye out the door, to my mind anything less than that then I'd rather be out of the team. You know he's a City fan right? Do you think we'd ever need to question your commitment on the pitch had you made it as a professional at City but had decided after your contract was over you wanted to move to another club to better progress your career? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 5 minutes ago, Ian M said: You know he's a City fan right? Do you think we'd ever need to question your commitment on the pitch had you made it as a professional at City but had decided after your contract was over you wanted to move to another club to better progress your career? Conway isn’t a City fan. Joined the academy at an early age, yes but he wasn’t a fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 26 minutes ago, bexhill reds said: Totally disagree, Manning is paid and judged to get results ultimately, it's his prerogative to determine what resources he wants to include for this goal nothing to do with favourites or tenure of contract. Do we know what Conway's mindset will be like, do we know that he'll be 100% committed? Turning up for preseason on the allotted date does not prove that, that just means that he's not in breach of contract. Perhaps Manning has sat down with him for a meeting and taken his own gauge on where TC's head is and made the decision that he does not want him in the set up. It's no different to any other organisation really, employee has made it clear that they no longer want to be the company, so the company decides to put them on gardening leave in lieu of notice regardless of their talent because they don't feel that the employee will be an asset in their remaining time. Im not going to knock TC's potential, and on paper he could be our best striker, but will he really be prepared to give 100% to everything on and off the pitch if he's got one eye out the door, to my mind anything less than that then I'd rather be out of the team. How do we know he won't be 100% committed? Manning as the 'boss' should be the bigger person after sitting down with him and tell him some positive things rather than just offloading him to the 21's. I'm really struggling to understand all the anger on here against Tommy tbh. Hardly anyone has thought to look at the situation (since last summer /autumn ) from Tommy's perspective. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 9 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: How do we know he won't be 100% committed? Manning as the 'boss' should be the bigger person after sitting down with him and tell him some positive things rather than just offloading him to the 21's. I'm really struggling to understand all the anger on here against Tommy tbh. Hardly anyone has thought to look at the situation (since last summer /autumn ) from Tommy's perspective. Unless you are a family member or ITK then how do you know he will be committed? The only people who do know will be TC himself and those in the club that have actually sat down with him, I would be amazed given the meeting culture that seems to prevail now that he's not sat down with the coaching staff and for them to make a call on where they think his head is at. That said, everything on here is most likely to be speculation and conjecture, but I'd be amazed in this day and age that his agent would not have sounded or been sounded out by possible suitors with indicative figures discussed. The potential of a big pay rise or chunky signing on fee for being OOC will have an effect on someone's mentality, that's just human nature. I suspect the general anger is more down to frustration on why someone does not want to commit to the club we support, most would agree that a football career is short and deep down have no issue with someone ultimately doing what's best for them, we might not like it but we can understand it. This is one of those situations that is probably best resolved quickly allowing TC to get his move and the club to maximise the transfer fee they might get. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 51 minutes ago, Ian M said: You know he's a City fan right? Do you think we'd ever need to question your commitment on the pitch had you made it as a professional at City but had decided after your contract was over you wanted to move to another club to better progress your career? As I said on a previous post I'd be amazed if his agent had not sounded out potential suitors sufficiently enough to know what any package might be. Regardless of my loyalties, if I knew that a potential new employer would triple my salary or give me a golden hello by coming in contract free and potentially enhance my career would I want to do anything to jeopardise my ability to work for that employer? Would I want to risk a career ending injury just because I might support my current employer - no probably not and I argue that no one else would. I don't blame TC for wanting out if he feels it will enhance his career, but likewise I don't feel any anger towards the club for making a call that they feel best suits them if there is no apparent intention to sign a new contract. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDBS36 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) Came on here for an update on Twine to find out it turned into all about TC can’t we move these comments and merge Edited July 19 by SDBS36 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelmalta Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 8 hours ago, bexhill reds said: Unless you are a family member or ITK then how do you know he will be committed? The only people who do know will be TC himself and those in the club that have actually sat down with him, I would be amazed given the meeting culture that seems to prevail now that he's not sat down with the coaching staff and for them to make a call on where they think his head is at. That said, everything on here is most likely to be speculation and conjecture, but I'd be amazed in this day and age that his agent would not have sounded or been sounded out by possible suitors with indicative figures discussed. The potential of a big pay rise or chunky signing on fee for being OOC will have an effect on someone's mentality, that's just human nature. I suspect the general anger is more down to frustration on why someone does not want to commit to the club we support, most would agree that a football career is short and deep down have no issue with someone ultimately doing what's best for them, we might not like it but we can understand it. This is one of those situations that is probably best resolved quickly allowing TC to get his move and the club to maximise the transfer fee they might get. totally agree best he moves on quickly. I do believe Conway is trying to shaft us as a club but he also does have a right to run his contract down. I agree with clubs decision to put him in u21s and waste no more time on him. Lets hope we get an offer so he moves on quickly!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 2 hours ago, Nigelmalta said: totally agree best he moves on quickly. I do believe Conway is trying to shaft us as a club but he also does have a right to run his contract down. I agree with clubs decision to put him in u21s and waste no more time on him. Lets hope we get an offer so he moves on quickly!! Out of interest - in what way is he trying to shaft us? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back of the Dolman Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 12 hours ago, BCFC31 said: Give it a rest forget conway he is history and good riddance. I’m sure some people would think give it a rest with your opinion on the matter. But that’s the thing it’s all about opinions and everyone is entitled to their own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 12 hours ago, bexhill reds said: Totally disagree, Manning is paid and judged to get results ultimately, it's his prerogative to determine what resources he wants to include for this goal nothing to do with favourites or tenure of contract. Do we know what Conway's mindset will be like, do we know that he'll be 100% committed? Turning up for preseason on the allotted date does not prove that, that just means that he's not in breach of contract. Perhaps Manning has sat down with him for a meeting and taken his own gauge on where TC's head is and made the decision that he does not want him in the set up. It's no different to any other organisation really, employee has made it clear that they no longer want to be the company, so the company decides to put them on gardening leave in lieu of notice regardless of their talent because they don't feel that the employee will be an asset in their remaining time. Im not going to knock TC's potential, and on paper he could be our best striker, but will he really be prepared to give 100% to everything on and off the pitch if he's got one eye out the door, to my mind anything less than that then I'd rather be out of the team. From what I known and seen of Tommy. His commitment cannot be questioned. Just because he doesn't want to sign a new contract that doesn't mean he in uncommitted in the here and the now. I do not know if Tommy Conway will see the season out here or not. But what I do know is that Tommy would be putting in 100% effort to get ready for the new season because whether he is here or he is at another club, he will need to be fit. If Tommy were to see the season out here then it would be ridiculous of us to not consider him an asset. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Any updates on Twine, getting confused which thread I’m supposed to read 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 33 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Out of interest - in what way is he trying to shaft us? By exercising his right not to sign a new contract it seems. Apparently it's ok for the rest of us to do that but not footballers. I have no idea why but some people seem to yearn for the pre-Bosman days. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 32 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: Any updates on Twine, getting confused which thread I’m supposed to read Someone said yesterday it could go down to deadline day via Ian G 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarumred Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 49 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: Any updates on Twine, getting confused which thread I’m supposed to read You are not alone! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 15 minutes ago, Nugget said: Someone said yesterday it could go down to deadline day via Ian G That’s him just hedging his bets because there is no movement on this at all currently, so he’s just speculating what could happen. Things are not progressing at all. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: That’s him just hedging his bets because there is no movement on this at all currently, so he’s just speculating what could happen. Things are not progressing at all. Correct! And there has been very little dialogue between the clubs recently That's not to say it won't happen eventually though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 4 minutes ago, frenchred said: Correct! And there has been very little dialogue between the clubs recently That's not to say it won't happen eventually though! Agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 11 minutes ago, Davefevs said: That’s him just hedging his bets because there is no movement on this at all currently, so he’s just speculating what could happen. Things are not progressing at all. I think we really need to move on from Twine now. He really isn’t as good as people think he is. 5 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Agree. I think Parker will see him as a good option in his squad. Not sure they would want to sell at the moment to a rival. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 9 minutes ago, frenchred said: Correct! And there has been very little dialogue between the clubs recently That's not to say it won't happen eventually though! I imagine Tinnion and Manning and repeating these exact lines to one another every day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 minute ago, Shauntaylor85 said: I think we really need to move on from Twine now. He really isn’t as good as people think he is. I think Parker will see him as a good option in his squad. Not sure they would want to sell at the moment to a rival. And even if he is that good, if we're nowhere near reaching an agreement for him, why continue to waste time and energy on it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Out of interest - in what way is he trying to shaft us? Legally he has every right to not sign sign, clearly he knows what the club and people around it have given him over the years, and he knows the transfer fee he would command if he was sold,, clearly thats not as much a concern as making more money for himself, was it darren barnard who signed the contract and was sold soon after, meaning the club got the fee? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 minute ago, Supersonic Robin said: And even if he is that good, if we're nowhere near reaching an agreement for him, why continue to waste time and energy on it? The club aren't wasting much time and energy on it, the fans on here are! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Just read he scored a hattrick last night against Barnsley u21s in a friendly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 6 minutes ago, Simon bristol said: Legally he has every right to not sign sign, clearly he knows what the club and people around it have given him over the years, and he knows the transfer fee he would command if he was sold,, clearly thats not as much a concern as making more money for himself, was it darren barnard who signed the contract and was sold soon after, meaning the club got the fee? The problem as it see it is - for all of you “you” (not you) saying he should’ve signed the contract and put in a release fee clause - what level do you set that at that’s fair? And when you think of a number, then imagine that a club could have him for somewhere between £350k (€400k) and probably £1.0-1.5m next summer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 15 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: I think we really need to move on from Twine now. He really isn’t as good as people think he is. I think Parker will see him as a good option in his squad. Not sure they would want to sell at the moment to a rival. We are not rivals with Burnley. They'll be fighting for automatics this season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 17 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said: And even if he is that good, if we're nowhere near reaching an agreement for him, why continue to waste time and energy on it? Plus he is being set up as the key player for Manning. So what happens if he signs and doesn't perform to that level? A big risk for both club and player, especially if we pay over the odds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 10 minutes ago, Davefevs said: The problem as it see it is - for all of you “you” (not you) saying he should’ve signed the contract and put in a release fee clause - what level do you set that at that’s fair? And when you think of a number, then imagine that a club could have him for somewhere between £350k (€400k) and probably £1.0-1.5m next summer. At first thought, somewhere around the 4 million mark would see him give something back. The killer is obviously the potential move to Scotland, where there would be no tribunal fee involved. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeez Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Just need to take a look at the Burnley squad, it's huge & full of quality, they will be contenders this season no doubt. Where does this leave Twine? IMO he would have to bide his time & force his way into the starting line up whereas he knows he'll be Mannings 1st pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 12 minutes ago, Simon bristol said: At first thought, somewhere around the 4 million mark would see him give something back. The killer is obviously the potential move to Scotland, where there would be no tribunal fee involved. And that’s a big sticking point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDziek Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 hour ago, Red Army 75 said: Any updates on Twine, getting confused which thread I’m supposed to read You need to read the Conway thread to get Twine updates 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 12 minutes ago, Jeez said: Just need to take a look at the Burnley squad, it's huge & full of quality, they will be contenders this season no doubt. Where does this leave Twine? IMO he would have to bide his time & force his way into the starting line up whereas he knows he'll be Mannings 1st pick. I suppose thats the question - would you rather have to compete for a place at a team who are very likely to be promoted, or be 1st choice in a team who are very likely to finish midtable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 46 minutes ago, Dredd said: Just read he scored a hattrick last night against Barnsley u21s in a friendly Crickey, how many times are they playing Barnsley in pre-seasons? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashton Fete Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 hour ago, Dredd said: Just read he scored a hattrick last night against Barnsley u21s in a friendly Well that’s added at least another 1-2 weeks to this saga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 16 minutes ago, Ashton Fete said: Well that’s added at least another 1-2 weeks to this saga And another £500k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted July 19 Admin Share Posted July 19 2 hours ago, Selred said: Crickey, how many times are they playing Barnsley in pre-seasons? Having scored hat-tricks against Barnsley and Barnsley U21s the last two nights, what price a Scott Twine hat-trick tonight against Barnsley U18s? 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 I'd imagine Burnley are looking at the proposed figure we are looking at paying for Sinclair and are asking City why if we can pay around £2/3 million on a punt then why won't we pay £5 million for proven championship quality? Pointless having these strikers without the key to service!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 As our colonial friends say ‘ either shit or get off the pot’ . 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Is this all dead and buried now with Armstrong in or is there some chance of it still coming off? I felt he was a good forward thinking midfielder and the word was he wanted to come and we wanted him. Sorry if this should of gone in the transfer bit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back of the Dolman Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Don’t apologise, just post it in the Scott Twine transfer thread next time only joking , I’m sure it can be moved by someone with the ability to do so 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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