BigTone Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 9 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I at least give the club / recruitment team credit that they didn’t pay over the odds (imho) in January, saying no, trying to get Azaz (a year younger) for £2.5m, before trying again for Twine. Yes, but lets not panic buy either. Lots of fish in a big sea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC31 Posted May 13 Author Share Posted May 13 2 hours ago, GrahamC said: This is some statement. The previous season only ended 9 days ago, we are one of very few Championship teams who have even announced who they are keeping on. Most clubs haven’t said this & we don’t know the entire composition of next season’s division yet. No one has the slightest idea who we’ll sign, who will leave or how much money we’ll spend, yet you think “we’ll do well” to finish in a spot below where we did this season. I have no idea how anyone can possibly think that they know this. What in the earth has shown you during our spell in the championship over the last 10 years to make you think any different 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Think it needs some more explanation than that? I thought Paterson was shit, is that explanation enough for you? 1 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 (edited) 11 minutes ago, TV Tom said: I thought Paterson was shit, is that explanation enough for you? And yet he’s played over 300 games in the championship, scored nearly 50 goals and got about the same level of assists. So broadly one in three games at this level while generally playing for middling teams has scored or created a goal. Comparatively, Twine, with the majority of his games at this level for the best team in the league or a playoff contender (total 49) has 13 goals or assists Yeah, shit mate. Shit. Edited May 13 by Silvio Dante 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 3 hours ago, ORANGE500 said: We'll be in the top half all season Id love it if you are right! but ive seen basically nothing in 25 or so years of the lansdowns owning the club to suggest they have any knowledge of how to get the club to that level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: This is all about value isn’t it? He's a decent player, but how “decent”? I think I have some bias I can’t shake, because we could’ve got him for something £150-200k a few seasons back. To now see £5m touted around is way OTT, regardless of Burnley paying £4m for him. Even half (£2.5m) seems slightly galling. But I’d kinda deal with that. Pleeeeeeaaaaaase don’t Dave. Id almost removed that from my mind. Now I have to agonise about it all over again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 21 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: And yet he’s played over 300 games in the championship, scored nearly 50 goals and got about the same level of assists. So broadly one in three games at this level while generally playing for middling teams has scored or created a goal. Comparatively, Twine, with the majority of his games at this level for the best team in the league or a playoff contender (total 49) has 13 goals or assists Yeah, shit mate. Shit. Just my opinion, calm down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 46 minutes ago, TV Tom said: I thought Paterson was shit, is that explanation enough for you? Did you mean shit hot? FWIW, I don’t think Pato was brilliant, had some flaws, but on the face of it, I’m not sure it’s easy to to say one way or the other. Neither like a tackle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 8 hours ago, RedRoss said: Ahem.. Rob Dickie 800k Hayden Roberts FREE Knight 2 million We've actually been good recently. We used to get our pants pulled down before with MA. I think we'll move on to other targets early if Twine is a no goer. Yeah what does Mark Ashton know about football….. oh wait two promotions in two years from Ipswich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Pato was too lightweight in my opinion. Good feet and could nick a goal here and there but he never seem to boss a match and going awol too often. I doubt any City fans cared much when he moved on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 5 minutes ago, Robbored said: Pato was too lightweight in my opinion. Good feet and could nick a goal here and there but he never seem to boss a match and going awol too often. I doubt any City fans cared much when he moved on. Hmm. Pato was very influential in the first half of the 17/18 season. I remember he had some kind of illness and was never the same player. Always felt he needed to bulk out a bit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 23 minutes ago, Robbored said: Pato was too lightweight in my opinion. Good feet and could nick a goal here and there but he never seem to boss a match and going awol too often. I doubt any City fans cared much when he moved on. I think the broader point here is that replace Pato with Twine and it sums up the latters loan spell. And, over a longer term, Pato has a better record in terms of goals and assists at this level. I’d never argue Pato was perfect. But I would argue that in a similar role he’s a better player than Mehmeti and a better player than Twine currently based on return. Nobody’s suggesting bring Pato back, but by the same token, I don’t think anyone should suggest we should bring a player with the same strengths/weaknesses as Pato at a sizeable fee. Thats the nub of the issue here and whoever brought Pato up, it’s a great yardstick. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 2 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: I think the broader point here is that replace Pato with Twine and it sums up the latters loan spell. And, over a longer term, Pato has a better record in terms of goals and assists at this level. I’d never argue Pato was perfect. But I would argue that in a similar role he’s a better player than Mehmeti and a better player than Twine currently based on return. Nobody’s suggesting bring Pato back, but by the same token, I don’t think anyone should suggest we should bring a player with the same strengths/weaknesses as Pato at a sizeable fee. Thats the nub of the issue here and whoever brought Pato up, it’s a great yardstick. We all have different views on player’s strengths and weaknesses and I saw plenty of Pato to form a valid opinion on him. I can’t say the same about Twine tho - I certainly didn’t see enough of him to form a valid opinion but from the glimpses that I did see he certainly impressed me particularly with his vision and of course his set piece delivery. Two excellent free kicks one at Carrow Rd the last one against Rotherham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 5 hours ago, Galley is our king said: Simple answer....NO! We have zero experience in negotiating such matters and it was interesting that 2 of the last transfer window players were loaned back to their parent clubs...... for the first time EVER! Who in the club is doing this very important work and what qualifications and experience do they have? Worried about the madness of losing all this experience on and off the field. Who is there to grab the reins should we suffer a poor start next season? Maybe SL will march into the dressing room and sort it out... It was all part of the negotiation of those deals to loan the two players back. We benefitted by getting Max Bird who was running down his Derby contract for next to nothing rather than waiting until the end of the season and the ensuing bun fight in competing with others fir his signature. With Stokes, he's highly rated but at non league level. He gets his move higher up the pyramid and trains with us when his old club don't have a mid week match. It's a win win situation. We don't need Bird or Stokes for the final months of last season when we had King and James. Its next season that matters. Rather than having our pants pulled down, both were clever pieces of business. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 11 hours ago, One Team said: Completely agree. I’ve not seen enough him either to offer that sort of money and TBH I’m really not bothered whether he signs. Appreciate I am the minority here. Exactly the same as my opinion. And I don't believe you and I are in the minority as he has hardly shone any more than all the rest of the squad. The team spirit of those who started the season has got us to mid table with the help of the January recruits but hardly set the team and us on fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 13 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: Exactly the same as my opinion. And I don't believe you and I are in the minority as he has hardly shone any more than all the rest of the squad. The team spirit of those who started the season has got us to mid table with the help of the January recruits but hardly set the team and us on fire. It’s funny how we all see certain players differently, i thought at times he was quite clearly better than what we had/have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 9 hours ago, Robbored said: Pato was too lightweight in my opinion. Good feet and could nick a goal here and there but he never seem to boss a match and going awol too often. I doubt any City fans cared much when he moved on. He was a bit hit and miss but I always liked him. At least he was creative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 55 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: Exactly the same as my opinion. And I don't believe you and I are in the minority as he has hardly shone any more than all the rest of the squad. The team spirit of those who started the season has got us to mid table with the help of the January recruits but hardly set the team and us on fire. Agreed mate. If we were thinking of paying several million for him I can’t help thinking there is better out there for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puckle_red Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 I think it was me who first compared Twine to Paterson a few months ago, saying I was hoping Twine was like a young Jamie Paterson. I think he has some improving to do to be as good as Paterson was. He falls on the floor more than Paterson, he takes a better corner than Paterson. But the rest, I'd have Paterson everyday of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 10 hours ago, Davefevs said: Did you mean shit hot? FWIW, I don’t think Pato was brilliant, had some flaws, but on the face of it, I’m not sure it’s easy to to say one way or the other. Neither like a tackle! Let's face it: Pato isn't built for a tackle, and Twine might lose a veneer. Cut them some slack, will you? Personally, I prefer Pato to Twine. I was quite sad to see him go, but he was expensive so I get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 18 hours ago, Davefevs said: just being totally pedantic, what “transfer fee” do you see, e.g. £4m fee (£2m up front, £1m next year, £1m year after plus conditional add-ons) £2m fee (£2m up front, the rest conditional) We probably won't get to see the actual workings of it. I think it will be Undisclosed which then will start OTIB in to rumour mode which is always fun. Just my opinion but I think he will be a City player next season but with a 2m ish up front and the rest conditional. If it happens on that basis I would be quite happy. However, if Burnley want to play hard ball with unrealistic demands then I hope we say thanks but no thanks and then move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 13 hours ago, Davefevs said: This is all about value isn’t it? He's a decent player, but how “decent”? I think I have some bias I can’t shake, because we could’ve got him for something £150-200k a few seasons back. To now see £5m touted around is way OTT, regardless of Burnley paying £4m for him. Even half (£2.5m) seems slightly galling. But I’d kinda deal with that. £2.5m is fair enough. He hasn't set the world alight but he's obviously a good player and we're going to have to spend that sort of money if we want real quality. Agree with above that £5m is absurd for Twine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 25 minutes ago, supercidered said: We probably won't get to see the actual workings of it. I think it will be Undisclosed which then will start OTIB in to rumour mode which is always fun. Just my opinion but I think he will be a City player next season but with a 2m ish up front and the rest conditional. If it happens on that basis I would be quite happy. However, if Burnley want to play hard ball with unrealistic demands then I hope we say thanks but no thanks and then move on. Yeah, it will be undisclosed, I was just wondering what you saw as an acceptable “breakdown”. FWIW, again like you, I’m just speculating, I don’t Burnley will sell for £2m + add-ons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 26 minutes ago, supercidered said: We probably won't get to see the actual workings of it. I think it will be Undisclosed which then will start OTIB in to rumour mode which is always fun. Just my opinion but I think he will be a City player next season but with a 2m ish up front and the rest conditional. If it happens on that basis I would be quite happy. However, if Burnley want to play hard ball with unrealistic demands then I hope we say thanks but no thanks and then move on. And move on very quickly if it’s not going our way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 4 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Yeah, it will be undisclosed, I was just wondering what you saw as an acceptable “breakdown”. FWIW, again like you, I’m just speculating, I don’t Burnley will sell for £2m + add-ons. Well it’ll be undisclosed until Tinnion gets invited on SOTC and needs to play Billy Big Bollocks…. 2 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 27 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Well it’ll be undisclosed until Tinnion gets invited on SOTC and needs to play Billy Big Bollocks…. I don't know why but I get the feeling that you aren't a big fan of Tinnion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 18 minutes ago, supercidered said: I don't know why but I get the feeling that you aren't a big fan of Tinnion. Shit. I’d tried to be stealth like about it as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 hour ago, supercidered said: I don't know why but I get the feeling that you aren't a big fan of Tinnion. Is anyone? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 49 minutes ago, cheese said: Is anyone? I think Brian is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 Nixon has allegedly posted that Twine is a target for Birmingham and that he will be sold by Burnley in this window. Mentions Bristol C and Sunderland may also join the auction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richyy66 Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 No chance of him playing in league one. There will be plenty of offers from the championship if Burnley decide to sale him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 10 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: Nixon has allegedly posted that Twine is a target for Birmingham and that he will be sold by Burnley in this window. Mentions Bristol C and Sunderland may also join the auction. Sound's like usual speculative bollocks you get in the summer to drum up some interest. I know we are still keen to secure him for the right price Why would he go to Birmingham, can they afford him? Doubtful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 14 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: Nixon has allegedly posted that Twine is a target for Birmingham and that he will be sold by Burnley in this window. Mentions Bristol C and Sunderland may also join the auction. This is the most important piece of info (in bold). If this is true then I expect us to be the ones signing him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 Sounds like Nixon has linked BCFC and not realised! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDarwall Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 29 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Sounds like Nixon has linked BCFC and not realised! That was my 1st thought, the wrong BCFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 1 hour ago, TDarwall said: That was my 1st thought, the wrong BCFC. I’ve just seen the Sun article. I think it’s a fluff article, trying to push the price up / justify the fee. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 1 hour ago, TDarwall said: That was my 1st thought, the wrong BCFC. Perhaps it’s Bradford or Brechin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HengroveReds Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 Nixon confirmed this morning: ‘’Scott Twine will leave Burnley on a permanent deal this summer. Bristol City, Birmingham & Sunderland have been linked with him so far.’’ surely we win the race out of the 2 other clubs linked, but sure we won’t pay over the price 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 7 hours ago, Davefevs said: I’ve just seen the Sun article. I think it’s a fluff article, trying to push the price up / justify the fee. They have more money than us Dave, Birmingham are going to spend a fortune this window apparently. I wouldn’t rule out them outbidding us. Move on I say, I dont think he’s that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 2 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: They have more money than us Dave, Birmingham are going to spend a fortune this window apparently. I wouldn’t rule out them outbidding us. Move on I say, I dont think he’s that good. You seriously think a player who spent the first half of last season at a club that nearly made the top six wants to drop to League One? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 3 minutes ago, GrahamC said: You seriously think a player who spent the first half of last season at a club that nearly made the top six wants to drop to League One? If they are paying him enough. Point here is Burnley will sell to highest bidder and Birmingham are going on a spending spree and can likely outbid us. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 28 minutes ago, HengroveReds said: Nixon confirmed this morning: ‘’Scott Twine will leave Burnley on a permanent deal this summer. Bristol City, Birmingham & Sunderland have been linked with him so far.’’ surely we win the race out of the 2 other clubs linked, but sure we won’t pay over the price Twine wants out of Burnley and they’ve been made aware of that fact. Whether that reduces the price somewhat I don’t yet know, but he does want to leave. It’s whether we’ll come to a suitable arrangement on the fee. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 43 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: They have more money than us Dave, Birmingham are going to spend a fortune this window apparently. I wouldn’t rule out them outbidding us. Move on I say, I dont think he’s that good. I get they have more money, the point I’m making is that the article is speculative and poorly informed…because any journo worth his salt would know we are hugely interested, and therefore wouldn’t write “Bristol City are thinking of joining the auction”…because we are already sat down picking our nose! This sounds like a piece put out there to drive more interest. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 4 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I get they have more money, the point I’m making is that the article is speculative and poorly informed…because any journo worth his salt would know we are hugely interested, and therefore wouldn’t write “Bristol City are thinking of joining the auction”…because we are already sat down picking our nose! This sounds like a piece put out there to drive more interest. 100% this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashton Fete Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 He’ll sign for us in the next couple of weeks once the Burnley manager is sorted as they may just want to not sell players pre him arriving albeit have it all lined up I think it will then move quite quickly and he’ll be the signing that launches the 24/25 kit soon after This could just be easy column filling speculation given he’s a player sent out on loan twice last season and didn’t play a huge amount for them the season before when he signed and it’s out there we’re interested so possibly just a relative last min leak to drive up the final price and hurry us along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 What interests me here is how they plan to spend big in League One if so and comply with the Championship rules on the way back up. Because if you look at Ipswich and Sheffield Wednesday- the former in parirudsr did spend somewhat in League One, the latter could have but in respect of bumping up revenue via donations or whatever the exact League One mechanism is...they didn't. Presumably cognisant of issues that could be caused when returning to the Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 20 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I get they have more money, the point I’m making is that the article is speculative and poorly informed…because any journo worth his salt would know we are hugely interested, and therefore wouldn’t write “Bristol City are thinking of joining the auction”…because we are already sat down picking our nose! This sounds like a piece put out there to drive more interest. Spot on Dave - a transparent tactic used by any number of club with a sought after asset which obviously works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrondrew Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 If he goes to Brum, it can only be for money reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 If it’s true they’re happy to sell, there’s no way he goes anywhere else but here imho. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 6 minutes ago, petehinton said: If it’s true they’re happy to sell, there’s no way he goes anywhere else but here imho. Depends on who stumps up the required fee, Pete. We baulked at the fee in January don’t forget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 23 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: What interests me here is how they plan to spend big in League One if so and comply with the Championship rules on the way back up. Because if you look at Ipswich and Sheffield Wednesday- the former in parirudsr did spend somewhat in League One, the latter could have but in respect of bumping up revenue via donations or whatever the exact League One mechanism is...they didn't. Presumably cognisant of issues that could be caused when returning to the Championship. Yep, it’s fine spending in Lg1, but once back in the Champ in 25/26, that investment used in 24/25 is disallowed. So you can’t go mad. Unless they are praying for the change in P&S rules? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 8 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Depends on who stumps up the required fee, Pete. We baulked at the fee in January don’t forget. That's where the club must move away from the deal if we can't agree. No way we should be spending that figure on Twine. Tins said we've got other targets just incase, my worry is that we wait too long for Burnley to concede and other targets go walkies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 3 minutes ago, RedRoss said: That's where the club must move away from the deal if we can't agree. No way we should be spending that figure on Twine. Tins said we've got other targets just incase, my worry is that we wait too long for Burnley to concede and other targets go walkies. That might be the case but Manning has made it blatantly obvious he wants him & I think even if that means our other 2 signings are relatively cut price, he’ll want us to still go ahead. The ownership might want to play hardball on the fee here but they risk looking like not backing their man on his number one target if it falls through. The uncertainty over Conway is the other issue here, if he does eventually go that brings in more revenue & a bit of leeway on other targets though I’m still not expecting our expenditure this summer to exceed a net figure of around £6m. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 I just hope we have alternatives and are not hanging our hat on signing Twine, dragging on all summer and then not landing him. Alternatively, I should hope that if we do sign him we've really done our homework this time and he is what we really want and need (I'm yet to be convinced) as we've been mugged before. The fanbase were clamouring for Lee Tomlin and it was OK for a while but turned sour. We were also in raptures about Tony Dinning's loan spell, so we bought him and we all know the history. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 8 minutes ago, RedRoss said: That's where the club must move away from the deal if we can't agree. No way we should be spending that figure on Twine. Tins said we've got other targets just incase, my worry is that we wait too long for Burnley to concede and other targets go walkies. Agree…and cheaper alternatives too. This is who Manning wants though! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 2 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: I just hope we have alternatives and are not hanging our hat on signing Twine, dragging on all summer and then not landing him. Alternatively, I should hope that if we do sign him we've really done our homework this time and he is what we really want and need (I'm yet to be convinced) as we've been mugged before. The fanbase were clamouring for Lee Tomlin and it was OK for a while but turned sour. We were also in raptures about Tony Dinning's loan spell, so we bought him and we all know the history. As per my post above, Tinnion says we have alternatives, and they are cheaper too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 25 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Depends on who stumps up the required fee, Pete. We baulked at the fee in January don’t forget. It does, but I think there may be a bit of “well he really wants to go, they really want him, if we agree X it gets this all over and done with early and we can focus on more important stuff” type vibes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 4 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: I just hope we have alternatives and are not hanging our hat on signing Twine, dragging on all summer and then not landing him. Alternatively, I should hope that if we do sign him we've really done our homework this time and he is what we really want and need (I'm yet to be convinced) as we've been mugged before. The fanbase were clamouring for Lee Tomlin and it was OK for a while but turned sour. We were also in raptures about Tony Dinning's loan spell, so we bought him and we all know the history. Think it is a bit of a stretch to compare Twine with Tomlin or bring up a L1 player from 20 years ago.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3 Ark at Ee Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 40 minutes ago, astrondrew said: If he goes to Brum, it can only be for money reasons. Or maybe Burnley fancy one of their players so Twine is a bartering tool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 Twine would go to rovers if they paid him enough, so anyone who thinks he wouldnt go to brum because they are league 1, well,, ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 Surely 2.5 with plenty of add ons gets it done? Burnley have unfortunately been undone by twine not exactly shining when playing in this league either for them or on loan, so can’t demand the fee they paid, nobody’s giving them 5 million based on his performances at this level. That said, I like twine, don’t think it was coincidence that when he got in the team consistently we went on a good run, so if the price is right he must absolutely be number 1 target. Howeve anything over 3m and it’s better if we look elsewhere. If we’re going to be spending big then it has to be a striker, for me anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 While I’d be amazed if he goes there, would it surprise anyone if Birmingham leap frog us in the next few years like countless other clubs? No. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 38 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Think it is a bit of a stretch to compare Twine with Tomlin or bring up a L1 player from 20 years ago.. Except Twine's level may be as a L1 player. His reputation is built on his performances with MK Dons. I know he's had injuries but, while he has scored the odd good goal, he didn't exactly pull up any trees at Burnley or on loan at Hull or with us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 2 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Except Twine's level may be as a L1 player. His reputation is built on his performances with MK Dons. I know he's had injuries but, while he has scored the odd good goal, he didn't exactly pull up any trees at Burnley or on loan at Hull or with us. It’s certainly an opinion to discuss. I don’t think he’s the difference-maker others think he is, which of course they are entitled to hold. I think Burnley overpaid, and I think we will if we pay anymore for him than we were intending to for Azaz (£2.5m). I also don’t think there’s much upside in him either, he’s 25 by the time the season starts. I didn’t see enough in general play to warrant paying a load for him. He takes a wicked free-kick, granted. I do think he’s good enough for the Championship, but I don’t think he pushes us to top-6. LM does though. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 14 minutes ago, Davefevs said: It’s certainly an opinion to discuss. I don’t think he’s the difference-maker others think he is, which of course they are entitled to hold. I think Burnley overpaid, and I think we will if we pay anymore for him than we were intending to for Azaz (£2.5m). I also don’t think there’s much upside in him either, he’s 25 by the time the season starts. I didn’t see enough in general play to warrant paying a load for him. He takes a wicked free-kick, granted. I do think he’s good enough for the Championship, but I don’t think he pushes us to top-6. LM does though. I don’t think we saw enough of him to really know whether he can push us up the table towards the top 6 - what we do know is that from when he joined us in Jan, our results were better when he was in the team, than not. Agree though Dave - paying any more than we were prepared to do for Azaz, wouldn’t seem to make a lot of sense. I would definitely like us to sign him but then again, we don’t know who else we are looking at from a 10 perspective. Feels like LM has him as our prime target for the summer (which is fine) but if TC goes, his replacement will become just as, if not even more important. An interesting few weeks to come before the season kicks-off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 22 minutes ago, Davefevs said: It’s certainly an opinion to discuss. I don’t think he’s the difference-maker others think he is, which of course they are entitled to hold. I think Burnley overpaid, and I think we will if we pay anymore for him than we were intending to for Azaz (£2.5m). I also don’t think there’s much upside in him either, he’s 25 by the time the season starts. I didn’t see enough in general play to warrant paying a load for him. He takes a wicked free-kick, granted. I do think he’s good enough for the Championship, but I don’t think he pushes us to top-6. LM does though. How did Azaz get on after his move? Looks like he did OK stats wise at least. Twine doesn't really excite me to be honest. He looks decent but for the fee being touted he should stand out more. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 30 minutes ago, DaveF said: How did Azaz get on after his move? Looks like he did OK stats wise at least. Twine doesn't really excite me to be honest. He looks decent but for the fee being touted he should stand out more. On pure output, 4g / 5a in the equivalent of 15 90s. Boro won 9 drew 6 lost 5 of the games he appeared in as they finished the season strongly with 18 pts from the last 8 games. In the bits and pieces I’ve watched he looks to have settled in well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 4 hours ago, HengroveReds said: Nixon confirmed this morning: ‘’Scott Twine will leave Burnley on a permanent deal this summer. Bristol City, Birmingham & Sunderland have been linked with him so far.’’ surely we win the race out of the 2 other clubs linked, but sure we won’t pay over the price Sounds like they are fishing for a race. I just don't want us offering over the odds, or having a protracted wait until a deal could be done. I'd like to think we are strong pursuing alternatives, and can make a take it or leave it offer to Burnley soon if we are that interested. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 4 minutes ago, ciderslider said: … but will Twine take the bait? If Burnley are willing to let Twine go and he wants to join us then he’s unlikely to join another Championship club. Hopefully City can an agreeable fee for him - no doubt that’s a class act. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 1 hour ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Except Twine's level may be as a L1 player. His reputation is built on his performances with MK Dons. I know he's had injuries but, while he has scored the odd good goal, he didn't exactly pull up any trees at Burnley or on loan at Hull or with us. Twine has just played a full season in the Championship with a side that finished outside the playoffs & another who finished 11th. He was a regular in the side at Hull, so harsh to say that. Dinning was a one off in my 50 years of watching us, a player who effectively decided to lie to us in order to sign a contract, it is exceptionally unlikely there are any parallels. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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