Mr Popodopolous Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Second striker?? That is more promising. Yes I could envisage him having certain attributes that are needed to play 10, he is also an intelligent player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC31 Posted July 26 Author Share Posted July 26 (edited) 56 minutes ago, City Slicker said: I only came on to talk about the shirt, and now look at me! I promise I'll go away after this. What I don't understand are those who are saying, "just move on." Football isn't like a game of Football Manager. The recruitment team, including the Technical Director and Manager, will constantly be making lists of players who they feel have not only the playing skills but also the personality attributes needed to fit into the team. That player also needs to be available and affordable. They clearly believe that Twine ticks all the boxes for that position, and maybe nobody else with those attributes is available (for whatever reason), so they are willing to see what happens. My feeling is that they are willing to place someone like Wells into that position (hence playing there in the last game) until that player becomes available. This could simply be a case of Twine being the perfect fit, and they don't want to waste money on anyone else at this stage. They can just move someone like Wells in there if they are unsuccessful this time around as they (and rightly so) have a valuation on that player and don't want to overpay. Thats a good idea let's move a 34 year old out and out striker in there the club are just being tight like they always are untill we spend the money we will be a bottom half championship club. Edited July 26 by BCFC31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 2 minutes ago, BCFC31 said: Thats a good idea let's move a 34 year old out and out striker in there the club are just being tight like they always are untill we spend the money we will be a bottom half championship club. It's quite common for players to find new roles within a team as they get older, especially if their previous role relied on pace as an asset. It may not be so common these days, but for example, John Galley switched to Centre Half at Nottingham Forest. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 2 minutes ago, City Slicker said: Could you please expand on this to give me anymore information to your point? Or are you just saying he's 34 and that's it? Tbf I don’t think anyone doubts Wells’ professionalism and quality. But he hasn’t played as a 10 at the age of 34 (the second striker is a “second striker”) and it’s very unlikely that he’ll possess either the creativity and vision of a “Twine” type or the running ability of a Weimann who played there in the WSM days. Players can undoubtedly adapt as they get older. But my feeling is that Wells as the number 10 as opposed to Wells as a proper second striker (so probably a different formation all told) isn’t really the wisest move. I think we’re looking at a relatively fluid formation this year from the two games thus far, both in and out of possession. I’m not sure our “10” in that fluid makeup should be a 34 year old bloke who hasn’t played there. As the highest forward yes, and he may well be ahead of Fally at the start for that role. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 FWIW I think Nahki has become a more accomplished all-round “team” striker over the past two seasons. That kinda of “dad” / mentor role he’s played may well have made him think more about his own game. According to someone in the game he’s not lost his pace either. So, although I’m not suggesting he should play as a “10” per se, it would surprise me if he could be effective as a different type of partner for whoever plays CF. When I think back to the lack of confidence he had in 20/21 and 21/22 when his touch wasn’t the best, and shots skewed off the side of either foot, I do think there is still much he can offer. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 I didn’t catch the game but he was getting rave reviews from what I was reading it sounded like that 10 position… of course it was just a friendly but Wells is a street wise player & maybe could share the load with Stokes over a season if we had to. Hopefully Twine gets over the line as I can see Manning being pretty disappointed if not as he’s always been his Nr 1 target Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, Mr Hankey said: certainly don't think he will be going to Scott Parker demanding a transfer away from Burnley just to join Bristol City, regardless of his relationship with Liam Manning If Parker bombs ( as he undoubtedly will) then perhaps Manning will be reunited with his boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 8 minutes ago, Nugget said: I didn’t catch the game but he was getting rave reviews from what I was reading it sounded like that 10 position… of course it was just a friendly but Wells is a street wise player & maybe could share the load with Stokes over a season if we had to. Hopefully Twine gets over the line as I can see Manning being pretty disappointed if not as he’s always been his Nr 1 target I’d say he played more as a second forward, almost like he was on a bungee rope with Sinclair Armstrong. But it’s semantics really. Each player will play their role differently even if LM asked him to play as a “10”. Twine will be about pockets and through balls, Sykes would be a dribbler, Weimann a third-man runner, etc. Wells plays it with an appreciation of needing to help the striker imho. It’s kinda why I don’t get hooked up on formations. I also why I hope Mayulu gets an opportunity to pair up with either Armstrong or Wells over this weekend’s games, as we may not have got a great representation of his ability with Stokes behind him for example. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Wells at 10? Over a long Championship season- that would be different. He played it v Newport and he is an intelligent player, but it feels a little like shoe-horning again? Has he any history of playing 10 more widely or? Agreed, wells needs to be on the end of good supply into the penalty box to try and score goals, playing in a playmaking role between midfield and attack is clearly not what hes best at,,, mehmeti or tgh is much more suited to the ball playing number 10 role than wells. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhurst Red Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Biggest loss with no Twine is set pieces. He made a genuine difference almost immediately. We lack massively in this area, and any statician will tell you how critical this is any league. That said, when I spoke to a QPR supporting friend, thinking Armstrong would be ideal for this, he laughed and said he can't head for Toffee..... So who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Other big loss without Twine is his ability to win free kicks. Scott was good at this, in both halves- it can help a side to build pressure or break up some as and when appropriate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, Ian M said: Am I ruining it? 39 goals in 63 games as a second striker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 I'm not sure I agree with @headhunter assessment that most of us would be happy for us to pay 3 million for him. I think anything over 2 million is pricey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Wells may have a strong record as a 2nd striker but... If there are Assists to factor in that may also move the dial again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 6 minutes ago, City Slicker said: Playing devils advocate here. Why would you suggest that a competent and solid Championship midfielder with 2 promotions to his name wouldn't be worth over £2m? Even £3m seems pretty low to me. For 1.5-2 million I'd buy him. For 3 million I wouldnt. I saw very little in his time here that made me think we should spend 3 million on him. I think at that price there is other options. Last season was the highest amount of games he's played in this league. Over 49 Championship games he's scored 9 and only has 4 assists. Azaz who we were after for 2.5 million has scored 11 and assisted 10 in 46 Championship appearances. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 If I was hazarding a guess, £4m would be the price Burnley want for a permanent move. Whether that is fair or expensive is open to debate, but it feels to me like the sort of price tag they may want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 27 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: For 1.5-2 million I'd buy him. For 3 million I wouldnt. I saw very little in his time here that made me think we should spend 3 million on him. I think at that price there is other options. Last season was the highest amount of games he's played in this league. Over 49 Championship games he's scored 9 and only has 4 assists. Azaz who we were after for 2.5 million has scored 11 and assisted 10 in 46 Championship appearances. Such as? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrumpylegs Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Twines position is arguably the most important one on the pitch. It is key as he operates in the space between midfield and the forwards and this has been a real weakness of ours over the last few years. Players that can play this role are rare and will always be in demand. It’s the ‘specialist’ nature of this role that uplifts the price. To get Twine we may have to pay more than a lot of posters think! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numbeast Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 I think now is the time, if it hasn’t already happened, for Liam Manning, the board and recruitment team to sit down and decide what we’re prepared to do the get this over the line. They need to sort out the maximum price we’re willing to pay, how much longer we’re prepared to wait and the viable alternatives we could pursue if we need to move on. We must, by now, know the lowest price they’re going to accept if we won’t pay that move on, there isn’t going to be a pre-season sale like the late afternoon on Christmas Eve. How long do we wait, I’d say give it a week if there is no joy move on. We need to, and I’m sure they already are, putting out feelers to find out who fits the bill for the type of person Manning’s looking for. If we start sounding out potential recruits and getting an approximate price in the next week we can then speed up the process should we need to move on. I am a fan of Scott Twine and I think he would add to the squad, but this has been dragging on so long now I’m starting to question if waiting is worth the trouble. I’m sure there are other technically gifted players available, if not in this country, then abroad. I’m starting to get a little concerned that by putting all our eggs in 1 basket all we’re going to end up scrabbling around looking to do business in the final week of the window. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, City Slicker said: Playing devils advocate here. Why would you suggest that a competent and solid Championship midfielder with 2 promotions to his name wouldn't be worth over £2m? Even £3m seems pretty low to me. The issue for me is around what we can recoup in the future. Twine is 25 and 2 or 3 years away from his peak. As a general rule, that's around the age a player's worth is likely to be at its maximum. Once a player hits 27 or 28 then any club signing them knows that they are likely to be over 30 at the end of their time at the club and their value will depreciate. Assume we want Twine for more than a couple of seasons then I reckon £2 to £2.5 million is the most we can spend and still believe we have a reasonable chance of receiving the same or more if we sold him again in the future. If we spend £4 - £5 million on him then I think it makes it very likely we will ultimately make a loss on him. That doesn't have to matter - in that we can obviously get value from him whilst he is here and, if he got us promotion, or became key to our style of playing, then we can potentially justify having spent a lot on a player we make a loss on. But it is nonetheless a factor we have to weigh up if we choose to spend £3 million or more on him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bcfc24 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Burnley fans saying Twine has been given the number 11 shirt, that doesn’t strike me as something they would do with a player they want to get rid of 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, Scrumpylegs said: Twines position is arguably the most important one on the pitch. It is key as he operates in the space between midfield and the forwards and this has been a real weakness of ours over the last few years. Players that can play this role are rare and will always be in demand. It’s the ‘specialist’ nature of this role that uplifts the price. To get Twine we may have to pay more than a lot of posters think! It's not that rare, there's a 10 in every team, and its not that specialist. The fundamental requirements being to see opportunities and be able to pass with accuracy, so hopefully to make the most of those opportunities. I don't think Twine makes us into a top 6 championship club but he is who Manning wants. At £4M I believe he's a little overpriced but in this case it's a sellers market and if we want him permanently now we are going to have to stump up the money. I'd prefer a deal of £2.5M plus add-ons but the ball is in Burnley court. Edited July 26 by RoystonFoote'snephew Text corrrection 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southport Red Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 7 minutes ago, Bcfc24 said: Burnley fans saying Twine has been given the number 11 shirt, that doesn’t strike me as something they would do with a player they want to get rid of He is Number 11 here https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/burnley-fc/kader/verein/1132/saison_id/2024 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 15 minutes ago, Bcfc24 said: Burnley fans saying Twine has been given the number 11 shirt, that doesn’t strike me as something they would do with a player they want to get rid of He’s been number 11 since he joined them iirc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfitInMyPocket Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 They're gunna wait till the end of the window for him. We'll be spending a fair chunk on a loan or overspending on a permanent. Can't deny his quality from set pieces and some of his passing is nice but I personally wouldn't be waiting this long or spending that much money on him. Very weak on and off the ball and pretty slow too, can maybe get away with that in a free role behind a big striker. People said he played a 10 role last year but he was starting wide left and drifted inside with Pring/Roberts on the overlap with the back 3. I'd prefer him in a conventional 10 position with Bell out on the left wing with a back 4 but that requires bravery nowadays in modern football and we're a bit too safe from watching last years performances. If he goes back to wingbacks and keeps Twine in that Left wing spot it reduces game time for Bell who imo (might get pelters for this) is our best attacking outlet and threat. The meltdown on here when we inevitably wait till deadline day and he stays, would be so Bristol City wouldn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Club may be waiting on the TC situation. Get a few quid in and it can go towards the Twine fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC31 Posted July 26 Author Share Posted July 26 (edited) 3 hours ago, City Slicker said: Could you please expand on this to give me anymore information to your point? Or are you just saying he's 34 and that's it? Sqaure peg round hole for one, Wells game is based on peeling off the shoulder of the last man or running the channel and whiping the ball in he isn't the type to link the midfield with the forwards threading passes through the lines is he... Edited July 26 by BCFC31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 6 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: Club may be waiting on the TC situation. Get a few quid in and it can go towards the Twine fee. **Taps the sign** And that is why taking the action we have and depressing Conways value is daft. As I said on that thread, the transaction doesn’t exist in a bubble 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, numbeast said: I think now is the time, if it hasn’t already happened, for Liam Manning, the board and recruitment team to sit down and decide what we’re prepared to do the get this over the line. They need to sort out the maximum price we’re willing to pay, how much longer we’re prepared to wait and the viable alternatives we could pursue if we need to move on. We must, by now, know the lowest price they’re going to accept if we won’t pay that move on, there isn’t going to be a pre-season sale like the late afternoon on Christmas Eve. How long do we wait, I’d say give it a week if there is no joy move on. We need to, and I’m sure they already are, putting out feelers to find out who fits the bill for the type of person Manning’s looking for. If we start sounding out potential recruits and getting an approximate price in the next week we can then speed up the process should we need to move on. I am a fan of Scott Twine and I think he would add to the squad, but this has been dragging on so long now I’m starting to question if waiting is worth the trouble. I’m sure there are other technically gifted players available, if not in this country, then abroad. I’m starting to get a little concerned that by putting all our eggs in 1 basket all we’re going to end up scrabbling around looking to do business in the final week of the window. In regards to your first paragraph They have! Must have forgot to tell you though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, KegCity said: Such as? Im not a scout mate. 2 minutes ago, frenchred said: In regards to your first paragraph They have! Must have forgot to tell you though They just keep bidding the same amount hoping Burnley will accept it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 2 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: **Taps the sign** And that is why taking the action we have and depressing Conways value is daft. As I said on that thread, the transaction doesn’t exist in a bubble Only if you believe his value has diminished as a result of the club's actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly in the air Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 tell Parker to do one and move on to someone else. it going on to long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 2 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Im not a scout mate. They just keep bidding the same amount hoping Burnley will accept it. Not exactly true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyez Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 45 minutes ago, fly in the air said: tell Parker to do one and move on to someone else. it going on to long. To where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 (edited) 49 minutes ago, fly in the air said: tell Parker to do one and move on to someone else. it going on to long. "Dear Mr Parker Following protracted negotiations where we have bid considerably less for your player than you value him and you've not accepted. you can do one (and you're a fraud) Warmest regards Tins (scorer of THAT goal Vs Liverpool)" Edited July 26 by W-S-M Seagull 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 47 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: Only if you believe his value has diminished as a result of the club's actions. Christs sake mate. We’ve moved from having an asset that we were prepared to “get the value on the pitch” from, and therefore any bidders would have needed to be mindful of that and pay us a premium accordingly, to an asset that we’re paying to do nothing and therefore there is no premium attached. If the boot was on the other foot and it was City bidding for a player in Conways scenario then I’m willing to bet you’d think the club should try and get them on the cheap. With respect, this is basic stuff. And as I said on the Conway thread (apologies for polluting) you can agree with the action but not accepting the consequence is pretty one eyed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 6 minutes ago, RedEyez said: To where? How about giving it a go for Millar. Hull have apparently put in a bid. Could we have another go for e.g. Cundle on loan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, Bcfc24 said: Burnley fans saying Twine has been given the number 11 shirt, that doesn’t strike me as something they would do with a player they want to get rid of They haven’t announced their squad numbers yet. Mind you, they currently have 38 senior players.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, bcfc01 said: Only if you believe his value has diminished as a result of the club's actions. Can you think of any examples of a situation where a business - any business - has publicly declared that they are keen to flog an asset and the asset hasn’t dropped in value as a result? If you don’t believe the value of Conway has diminshed as a result of the club’s actions then I am sure there is a very long queue of used car salesmen who are extremely anxious to do business with you and licking their lips about how easy you will be to shaft. Whether you like it or not, the Tommy Conway Summer Sale is now on. Everything must go and you won’t believe the bargains available.* *Terms and conditions apply. Sale must end 31 August. Advertised player was available at a higher non-sale price before 15 July. Edited July 26 by LondonBristolian 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 5 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: Can you think of any examples of a situation where a business - any business - has publicly declared that they are keen to flog an asset and the asset hasn’t dropped in value as a result? If you don’t believe the value of Conway has diminshed as a result of the club’s actions then I am sure there is a very long queue of used car salesmen who are extremely anxious to do business with you and licking their lips about how easy you will be to shaft. Whether you like it or not, the Tommy Conway Summer Sale is now on. Everything must go and you won’t believe the bargains available.* *Terms and conditions apply. Sale must end 31 August. Advertised player was available at a higher non-sale price before 15 July. It’s just possible he might have advised Gerald Ratner back in the day. (One for the oldies there) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 24 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: How about giving it a go for Millar. Hull have apparently put in a bid. Could we have another go for e.g. Cundle on loan. Thought you were asking for alternatives @RedEyez ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, ProfitInMyPocket said: They're gunna wait till the end of the window for him. We'll be spending a fair chunk on a loan or overspending on a permanent. Can't deny his quality from set pieces and some of his passing is nice but I personally wouldn't be waiting this long or spending that much money on him. Very weak on and off the ball and pretty slow too, can maybe get away with that in a free role behind a big striker. People said he played a 10 role last year but he was starting wide left and drifted inside with Pring/Roberts on the overlap with the back 3. I'd prefer him in a conventional 10 position with Bell out on the left wing with a back 4 but that requires bravery nowadays in modern football and we're a bit too safe from watching last years performances. If he goes back to wingbacks and keeps Twine in that Left wing spot it reduces game time for Bell who imo (might get pelters for this) is our best attacking outlet and threat. The meltdown on here when we inevitably wait till deadline day and he stays, would be so Bristol City wouldn't it. FWIW Burnley put together a very sensible loan deal last season for City. None of this Chelsea (huge loan fee) or Liverpool (penalties for not playing) lark, they want their loanees to play and improve. Whether they will do the same this summer I don’t know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: FWIW Burnley put together a very sensible loan deal last season for City. None of this Chelsea (huge loan fee) or Liverpool (penalties for not playing) lark, they want their loanees to play and improve. Whether they will do the same this summer I don’t know. Dependency there for me Dave is whether the six months less on contract changes the game, and I’d envisage it will. A season long loan for Twine takes him to one year left and into Conway territory (shudder). If at the end of a loan you have two years left you want the asset to play as it both protects sale value and possibly develops the player for you. If there is one year left then the former of those is somewhat diminished and you’d want a loan deal that reflects that financial position IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Im not a scout mate. They just keep bidding the same amount hoping Burnley will accept it. Evidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, frenchred said: Not exactly true Or bollux maybe ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Im not a scout mate. They just keep bidding the same amount hoping Burnley will accept it. I know Tins is thick but surely not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC31 Posted July 26 Author Share Posted July 26 (edited) Just had a look and twine has Mike Trésor a recent singing who's valued at 18 million pound who's played in the prem in front of him and 14 million pound aaron Ramsey! They also have Jóhann Berg Guðmundsson and Mohamed Zeki Amdouni in his position, Then they have loads of top class wide men can't see twine starting many games atall for burnley this coming season. Edited July 26 by BCFC31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 23 minutes ago, BCFC31 said: Just had a look and twine has Mike Trésor a recent singing who's valued at 18 million pound who's played in the prem in front of him and 14 million pound aaron Ramsey! They also have Jóhann Berg Guðmundsson and Mohamed Zeki Amdouni in his position, Then they have loads of top class wide men can't see twine starting many games atall for burnley this coming season. Tresor wants out apparently. They activated option to buy between loan and relegation but I don't think he agrees... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 58 minutes ago, BCFC31 said: Just had a look and twine has Mike Trésor a recent singing who's valued at 18 million pound who's played in the prem in front of him and 14 million pound aaron Ramsey! They also have Jóhann Berg Guðmundsson and Mohamed Zeki Amdouni in his position, Then they have loads of top class wide men can't see twine starting many games atall for burnley this coming season. You can find lots of reasons to make it a no brainer Twine will be out the door. But he hasn’t gone yet. Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNQ Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 32 minutes ago, Davefevs said: You can find lots of reasons to make it a no brainer Twine will be out the door. But he hasn’t gone yet. Why not? Because they know that Manning is in love with Twine and that we will sooner or later come to the minimum terms that are acceptable to Burnley. If we can see that our club are being run by numpties, I guess Burnley can too. 5 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 4 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Im not a scout mate. Amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderMeUp Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 5 hours ago, Silvio Dante said: **Taps the sign** And that is why taking the action we have and depressing Conways value is daft. As I said on that thread, the transaction doesn’t exist in a bubble I would guess we are trying to force him to take an offer on the table he wasn’t going to. By forcing him not to play he might well rethink where he goes this summer. Thats my guess anyway. We’ve sorted out a deal to a club (we will use that cash to supplement twine transfer fee),Conway says no I don’t want to go there, club put him in reserves to try and force him to take the move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cov 77 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Just now, ZiderMeUp said: I would guess we are trying to force him to take an offer on the table he wasn’t going to. By forcing him not to play he might well rethink where he goes this summer. Thats my guess anyway. We’ve sorted out a deal to a club (we will use that cash to supplement twine transfer fee),Conway says no I don’t want to go there, club put him in reserves to try and force him to take the move. Conway on the Twine pages again Just to bring it back in line, Burnley have an open day training today and Scott is seen signing autographs seemingly happy Have been keen to keep patient on this one but maybe time to move on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 38 minutes ago, Cov 77 said: Conway on the Twine pages again Just to bring it back in line, Burnley have an open day training today and Scott is seen signing autographs seemingly happy Have been keen to keep patient on this one but maybe time to move on Amen! I am thoroughly sick of reading, on every thread, about a player that wants to be somewhere else. Sod Conway! Keep it to the Conway thread please, pretty please. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 4 hours ago, KegCity said: Amazing. Nothing amazing about the fact that at 3 million there are other options to Twine. It's common sense really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC31 Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 Looking into it ( albeit it may not be accurate) but scott twine only earns 3.5k per week at Burnley! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Just now, BCFC31 said: Looking into it ( albeit it may not be accurate) but scott twine only earns 3.5k per week at Burnley! Your right...that isn't accurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 (edited) 47 minutes ago, BCFC31 said: Looking into it ( albeit it may not be accurate) but scott twine only earns 3.5k per week at Burnley! That’s a figure on one of those salary websites. I can tell you it’s not true. Save you looking further! Edited July 27 by Davefevs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly in the air Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 I think I am right Burnley are going to Spain this week for a training camp (might be wrong) if they are and Twine is going then I feel no progress has been made and time to put a line under it and move onto someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashton Fete Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 (edited) 8 minutes ago, fly in the air said: I think I am right Burnley are going to Spain this week for a training camp (might be wrong) if they are and Twine is going then I feel no progress has been made and time to put a line under it and move onto someone else. I think LM is so keen to get him in that will this run until deadline day or January as he’s happy he can plug the gap until then or even getting someone else in on loan until then whilst Burnley give him so games to make their own decisions I think the lack of rumours linking us to other players points me in that direction but could be way out Edited July 29 by Ashton Fete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 6 minutes ago, fly in the air said: I think I am right Burnley are going to Spain this week for a training camp (might be wrong) if they are and Twine is going then I feel no progress has been made and time to put a line under it and move onto someone else. You’ve posted that we should “move on” in this thread at least four times now. It isn’t making the slightest bit of difference. With less than a fortnight to go before we play at Hull we’ll find out soon enough how this saga ends. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 2 hours ago, GrahamC said: You’ve posted that we should “move on” in this thread at least four times now. It isn’t making the slightest bit of difference. With less than a fortnight to go before we play at Hull we’ll find out soon enough how this saga ends. It has been a saga that is for sure and it will be nice to be put out of misery as soon as possible whatever way it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 2 minutes ago, Redrascal2 said: It has been a saga that is for sure and it will be nice to be put out of misery as soon as possible whatever way it goes. Imagine how quiet OTIB would have been this summer without the Twine and Conway situations! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 30 minutes ago, Redrascal2 said: It has been a saga that is for sure and it will be nice to be put out of misery as soon as possible whatever way it goes. Still nowhere near the Eddie Nketiah saga. FWIW- I like Twine he is a very tidy footballer and hope we can get the deal done 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC31 Posted July 29 Author Share Posted July 29 Twine started for burnley over the weekend in there friendly he is being heavily used for them it's looking like he has become a firm part of parkers plans.... I think this one's dead in the water. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desso Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 On 26/07/2024 at 20:51, FNQ said: Because they know that Manning is in love with Twine and that we will sooner or later come to the minimum terms that are acceptable to Burnley. If we can see that our club are being run by numpties, I guess Burnley can too. Bit harsh! I'm sure they're doing things for the good of the club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HengroveReds Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 anyone know if twine played vs leganes yesterday, can’t see him in any pictures, and can’t find the lineup to check. not every player going on tour apparently, today could be the day we find out his short term future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTIDhc Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 3 minutes ago, HengroveReds said: anyone know if twine played vs leganes yesterday, can’t see him in any pictures, and can’t find the lineup to check. not every player going on tour apparently, today could be the day we find out his short term future From Burnley's forum: Re: Friendlies Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jul 28, 2024 4:10 pm From the video they put on of their disallowed goal the Burnley team looked like Hladky Vitinho O’Shea Esteve Can’t make out left back Cullen Brownhill Koleosho Twine Zaroury Obafemi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted July 29 Admin Share Posted July 29 8 minutes ago, HengroveReds said: anyone know if twine played vs leganes yesterday, can’t see him in any pictures, and can’t find the lineup to check. not every player going on tour apparently, today could be the day we find out his short term future Two posts above yours 1 hour ago, BCFC31 said: Twine started for burnley over the weekend in there friendly he is being heavily used for them it's looking like he has become a firm part of parkers plans.... I think this one's dead in the water. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 19 minutes ago, CTIDhc said: From Burnley's forum: Re: Friendlies Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jul 28, 2024 4:10 pm From the video they put on of their disallowed goal the Burnley team looked like Hladky Vitinho O’Shea Esteve Can’t make out left back Cullen Brownhill Koleosho Twine Zaroury Obafemi Yeah, if he’s on their pre season tour abroad & is starting games in a line up like that, there’s next to no chance he’s here before the season starts. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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