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39 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

I admire your optimism, but I think it’s only a matter of time before an established league club goes bust, and one going might create a domino effect.

 

It is absolutely crackers that clubs are consistently paying out more than they’re making . I would love a harder line for owners who are putting their fan’s clubs in jeopardy. I have been hoping for a reset for years now and still the juggernaut of greed rolls on . 

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2 hours ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

I admire your optimism, but I think it’s only a matter of time before an established league club goes bust, and one going might create a domino effect.

 

Almost all Champ teams are technically insolvent, and if they were operating in any other type of business, would have been put into receivership & most liquidated.

Of course the sole reason this position exists is because of the possibility of reaching the Prem where untold riches are said to wait. Take the lustre off the Premier League  (and put the income at say 50%-100% more than the Champ) and the pressure on wages drop right off, and maybe most clubs run near break even.

Never happening mind.

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2 hours ago, Spike said:

 

At the moment I have to think Brum is the move he'd choose unless he's happy here and we can agree a deal that suits Burnley and judging by no deal appearing to be close I'd hazard guess we're not willing to pay what they want and they're unwilling to lower the price with a team they'll be playing. 

Well he does come from Wootten Bassett, which , according to one hack on Facebook is "just outside" of Bristol !

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On 22/06/2024 at 17:20, M.D said:

I have to disagree with that point.

If SL wants to just sell Ashton gate, and both football teams (men and women) then I would see us as a very attractive proposition for an investor looking at a club with a large catchment area with unlocked potential.

Big IF though and at what price, that may make us unattractive to buy and invest in.

Agreed.  Also, and this is just a small point but grates on me a bit, in no way do City have “no history”.  We might have had very little in the way of success and triumph but we have 130 years (at least) of history.  

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3 minutes ago, Spike said:

To avoid. 

Couldn't agree more. If you don't like cosmopolitan big cities where there's loads going on & a fantastic array of things to see & do.... avoid London (& indeed most other capital cities).

I totally understand if you're a country or coast person that doesn't like hustle & bustle.  But some folk seem to have a deranged pathological dislike of London. I had a Twitter exchange with someone a couple of years ago who was saying he'd never take his kids to visit London as its basically a crime ridden cesspit. This couldn't be further than the truth.

 

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3 minutes ago, TDarwall said:

Couldn't agree more. If you don't like cosmopolitan big cities where there's loads going on & a fantastic array of things to see & do.... avoid London (& indeed most other capital cities).

I totally understand if you're a country or coast person that doesn't like hustle & bustle.  But some folk seem to have a deranged pathological dislike of London. I had a Twitter exchange with someone a couple of years ago who was saying he'd never take his kids to visit London as its basically a crime ridden cesspit. This couldn't be further than the truth.

 

I live in a capital city with all of those good qualities. I've been London numerous times and other than the tourist stuff I find it to be one of the worst places in the UK. 

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10 minutes ago, TDarwall said:

Couldn't agree more. If you don't like cosmopolitan big cities where there's loads going on & a fantastic array of things to see & do.... avoid London (& indeed most other capital cities).

I totally understand if you're a country or coast person that doesn't like hustle & bustle.  But some folk seem to have a deranged pathological dislike of London. I had a Twitter exchange with someone a couple of years ago who was saying he'd never take his kids to visit London as its basically a crime ridden cesspit. This couldn't be further than the truth.

 

I'm sure the Daily Mail said it was - thanks to some bloke called Sadiq Kahn or something like that - I operate a 50 mile exclusion zone around it.

 

 

 

 

I don't really, just thought I'd continue the nonsensical drivel I've written.

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18 minutes ago, Spike said:

I live in a capital city with all of those good qualities. I've been London numerous times and other than the tourist stuff I find it to be one of the worst places in the UK. 

That's cool, diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks & all that.  

14 minutes ago, cheese said:

I'm sure the Daily Mail said it was - thanks to some bloke called Sadiq Kahn or something like that - I operate a 50 mile exclusion zone around it.

 

 

 

 

I don't really, just thought I'd continue the nonsensical drivel I've written.

I did laugh at Kevin Peterson explaining how he takes off all his expensive jewellery before going there.

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1 minute ago, TDarwall said:

That's cool, diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks & all that.  

Yeah, I'm not saying everyone should hate London, only that I think I'd rather live anywhere than there, I don't even like visiting it haha. 

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7 hours ago, Spike said:

Yeah, I'm not saying everyone should hate London, only that I think I'd rather live anywhere than there, I don't even like visiting it haha. 

If you work here it’s a plus to live here (obvs) and if you’re at all interested in music and art then there’s nowhere else in the UK that compares or can provide you as much choice on any give day or night.

Plus there’s a fair few away games up here and it’s relatively easy to get back to Bristol for home games if you live in West London or cheap coaches via victoria. 
 

somebody else mentioned it earlier but if you’d honestly prefer to live anywhere like Stoke or Hull or Boston or Port Talbot or Margate or Reading or Swindon or tbh the list is endless then good for you.
 

 

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9 minutes ago, YorkshireSection said:

Obviously those that think London is bad have never been to Bradford or some parts of Leeds that actually are war zones with gangs running wild (no joke).

I think that happens in parts of London as well doesn’t it?

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1 hour ago, slartibartfast said:

er.............Stoke ?

 

1 hour ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

Or.............Hull?

I’ll raise you - Margate

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8 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

 

I’ll raise you - Margate

Hip and happening these days! Family friends from there as well. Never understood why it got such a bad wrap. I’ve been to a lot worse! 

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1 hour ago, Feral Williams said:

If you work here it’s a plus to live here (obvs) and if you’re at all interested in music and art then there’s nowhere else in the UK that compares or can provide you as much choice on any give day or night.

Plus there’s a fair few away games up here and it’s relatively easy to get back to Bristol for home games if you live in West London or cheap coaches via victoria. 
 

somebody else mentioned it earlier but if you’d honestly prefer to live anywhere like Stoke or Hull or Boston or Port Talbot or Margate or Reading or Swindon or tbh the list is endless then good for you.
 

 

I lived there for 3 years and couldn’t wait to leave. A more isolating, every man for himself place you couldn’t imagine - professionally and personally. I wouldn’t in a million years go back. It felt like being in magaluf for a season - you’ll make friends, but only whilst you’re in the club 

agree the facilities are great and plenty is on your doorstep… rarely met a Londoner who actually utilised or enjoyed it though. It became tedious because there was so much you could do. That is the London trap. A vile place that I would call a moth to the flame. 

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1 minute ago, 38MC said:

I lived there for 3 years and couldn’t wait to leave. A more isolating, every man for himself place you couldn’t imagine - professionally and personally. I wouldn’t in a million years go back. It felt like being in magaluf for a season - you’ll make friends, but only whilst you’re in the club 

agree the facilities are great and plenty is on your doorstep… rarely met a Londoner who actually utilised or enjoyed it though. It became tedious because there was so much you could do. That is the London trap. 

London like Magaluf?!

did you work here and are you capable of socialising and making friends who might have the same interests in things you all might want to do whilst here?

Maybe you were in the wrong job if it felt like an exclusive club that wouldn’t welcome you in I dunno ?

If you like lots of different kinds of music and the arts generally then there is nowhere like it apart from maybe NY or LA (Los Angeles before anyone chips in with Long Ashton which is where I grew up).

 

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14 minutes ago, Feral Williams said:

London like Magaluf?!

did you work here and are you capable of socialising and making friends who might have the same interests in things you all might want to do whilst here?

Maybe you were in the wrong job if it felt like an exclusive club that wouldn’t welcome you in I dunno ?

If you like lots of different kinds of music and the arts generally then there is nowhere like it apart from maybe NY or LA (Los Angeles before anyone chips in with Long Ashton which is where I grew up).

 

Work(ed) in corp law. Magaluf wasn’t a geographical comparison - just the fleeting nature of meeting people and moving on which I experienced. And I’m sure a part was the face didn’t fit, but I was far happier in Camden than Clapham. 

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1 minute ago, 38MC said:

Work(ed) in corp law. Magaluf wasn’t a geographical comparison - just the fleeting nature of meeting people and moving on which I experienced. And I’m sure a part was the face didn’t fit, but I was far happier in Camden than Clapham. 

Maybe it’s the line of work you’re in ?

Camden is just as much part of London (if not more geographically) than Clapham … though the latter is easier to get back to Bristol from 👍

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1 minute ago, Feral Williams said:

Maybe it’s the line of work you’re in ?

Camden is just as much part of London (if not more geographically) than Clapham … though the latter is easier to get back to Bristol from 👍

Totally. Everyone’s experience is their own and I only mention my experience. I have friends who moved same time as me, some still there and love it, some hold similar views to mine. To each their own. 

But it is a shithole. 😜

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10 hours ago, Spike said:

I live in a capital city with all of those good qualities. I've been London numerous times and other than the tourist stuff I find it to be one of the worst places in the UK. 

Have you forgotten you're surrounded by the Welsh?

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10 hours ago, TDarwall said:

Couldn't agree more. If you don't like cosmopolitan big cities where there's loads going on & a fantastic array of things to see & do.... avoid London (& indeed most other capital cities).

I totally understand if you're a country or coast person that doesn't like hustle & bustle.  But some folk seem to have a deranged pathological dislike of London. I had a Twitter exchange with someone a couple of years ago who was saying he'd never take his kids to visit London as its basically a crime ridden cesspit. This couldn't be further than the truth.

 

Love London & the buzz & the great pubs! 😊

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8 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Thanks. Had a quick Google and 27th June seems to come up for 2023.

Unless that was just testing?

https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/pre-season-day-one/

Iirc Pearsons method used to be that if players maintained their fitness over the summer and hit the set benchmarks on the testing day then they'd be given something like an extra week off. 

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13 minutes ago, mozo said:

Can you not even joke that London's a shithole on OTIB without it becoming a debate?! 🤣

You’re inviting a debate here. We are mass debaters on OTIB you should know this. 

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15 hours ago, YorkshireSection said:

Obviously those that think London is bad have never been to Bradford or some parts of Leeds that actually are war zones with gangs running wild (no joke).

My mate lives in Bradford and is from Leeds, I'd rather live in either. They are shit holes no doubt but what I hate is the volume of people. Also worry London it's the cost, I could live in a 5 bed, 5 bathroom house in Bradford for the same cost as a shitty 2 bed apartment in London. 

I'm very much a non people person, I like my space, I like friendly people in small doses, London is pretty much the opposite of what I like. 

What I don't get is why people get offended that I don't like the place, I mean I'm an Englishman and live in Wales and I'd still rather live here than London. I've got access to almost anything London offers, I pay way less, I live in a quiet area and even when I go to the City it's nowhere near as crowded and the people are infinitely nicer. 

I get the appeal of London but it's definitely not for me and I don't see the issue with that. 

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1 hour ago, Spike said:

My mate lives in Bradford and is from Leeds, I'd rather live in either. They are shit holes no doubt but what I hate is the volume of people. Also worry London it's the cost, I could live in a 5 bed, 5 bathroom house in Bradford for the same cost as a shitty 2 bed apartment in London. 

I'm very much a non people person, I like my space, I like friendly people in small doses, London is pretty much the opposite of what I like. 

What I don't get is why people get offended that I don't like the place, I mean I'm an Englishman and live in Wales and I'd still rather live here than London. I've got access to almost anything London offers, I pay way less, I live in a quiet area and even when I go to the City it's nowhere near as crowded and the people are infinitely nicer. 

I get the appeal of London but it's definitely not for me and I don't see the issue with that. 

just out of interest,are you south or north of the m4. a friend of mine says its a bit not so friendly north of m4. he lives near cowbridge, i love it over there

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Surely we are looking at alternatives to Twine especially as reported the current situation at Burnley is up in the air. Back next week not a sniff of a new player. I hope all our efforts are not going in just to get Twine. 

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1 hour ago, Redrascal2 said:

Surely we are looking at alternatives to Twine especially as reported the current situation at Burnley is up in the air. Back next week not a sniff of a new player. I hope all our efforts are not going in just to get Twine. 

I hope we charged him for using our facilities 😜

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4 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I hope we charged him for using our facilities 😜

Of course not he came to clear his locker and they forgot that he was no longer our player so allowed him a few days to move out !!!

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I would be very surprised if Twine didn’t join us. I guess it’s a matter of waiting for their new manager before letting players go but he wants to come, we want him, a new manager will not want players that don’t want to be there. I expect him to sign on loan with a perm fee agreed and additions based on appearances etc

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18 hours ago, 38MC said:

I lived there for 3 years and couldn’t wait to leave. A more isolating, every man for himself place you couldn’t imagine - professionally and personally. I wouldn’t in a million years go back. It felt like being in magaluf for a season - you’ll make friends, but only whilst you’re in the club 

agree the facilities are great and plenty is on your doorstep… rarely met a Londoner who actually utilised or enjoyed it though. It became tedious because there was so much you could do. That is the London trap. A vile place that I would call a moth to the flame. 

Was in London last weekend’ you don’t hear to many English voices’ is there actually any cockneys left in London 

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29 minutes ago, bristol red said:

I would be very surprised if Twine didn’t join us. I guess it’s a matter of waiting for their new manager before letting players go but he wants to come, we want him, a new manager will not want players that don’t want to be there. I expect him to sign on loan with a perm fee agreed and additions based on appearances etc

Agreed. That's my thoughts as well.

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43 minutes ago, bristol red said:

I would be very surprised if Twine didn’t join us. I guess it’s a matter of waiting for their new manager before letting players go but he wants to come, we want him, a new manager will not want players that don’t want to be there. I expect him to sign on loan with a perm fee agreed and additions based on appearances etc

If they’re letting him go why not let him go now?

Surely by your reasoning, as long as we meet their “price” (fee, loan fee, whatever), he’s ours?  But we won’t meet the price…there’s the issue.

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3 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

If they’re letting him go why not let him go now?

Surely by your reasoning, as long as we meet their “price” (fee, loan fee, whatever), he’s ours?  But we won’t meet the price…there’s the issue.

We couldn’t meet their asking price in January’ not sure why we thought we could now.

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17 minutes ago, Glen hump said:

We couldn’t meet their asking price in January’ not sure why we thought we could now.

I'll have a go but I'm probably overestimating financial pressure.

Relegation depends on what Burnley budgeted for and how strongly secured their loans

Worth noting they also sold a lot of Players post relegation in 2021-22 despite the excellent starting position. Albeit due to their Accounts running to end of July they were technically post season but still in 2021-22 accounting wise.

Their position since then has worsened, what with the debt, the Cash Balance dropping- perhaps we think we can leverage it a bit.

The hierarchy are probably wrong in that belief but I wonder if they are thinking that way.

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I have a feeling we won’t sign him as others are pushing the finances for a deal too far.

I also wonder if austerity from the owners will continue so the focus will be to utilise our January signings and youth.

Josh stokes will challenge for the 10 role along with mehmeti. Murphy to compete with be around in the 6 role as an understudy to Williams. max bird to compete with or alongside knight.

i can see Elijah Morrison brought in as an understudy to bell for that forward left role as a winger whilst stokes could also compete for that right winger role with Sykes should we line up like that.

if we see anyone come in, it will be the striker as we have no one at a good enough level coming through that will be available. I thought SPH would be him but he’s now on loan.

 

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23 minutes ago, BLRed said:

I have a feeling we won’t sign him as others are pushing the finances for a deal too far.

I also wonder if austerity from the owners will continue so the focus will be to utilise our January signings and youth.

Josh stokes will challenge for the 10 role along with mehmeti. Murphy to compete with be around in the 6 role as an understudy to Williams. max bird to compete with or alongside knight.

i can see Elijah Morrison brought in as an understudy to bell for that forward left role as a winger whilst stokes could also compete for that right winger role with Sykes should we line up like that.

if we see anyone come in, it will be the striker as we have no one at a good enough level coming through that will be available. I thought SPH would be him but he’s now on loan.

 

Depressing thought if so.

Well yes and no, a lot of our own  youth flourishing and playing at a decent level is something to be proud of but it just isn't enough.

We have to get youth and we have players such as O'Leary, Vyner, Pring who are now established.

Solid base is also a positive.

You need that next level quality on top and it can cost.

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2 hours ago, Glen hump said:

We couldn’t meet their asking price in January’ not sure why we thought we could now.

Don't go chasing waterfalls, please stick to the rivers and streams that we're used to 🤣

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2 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

You need that next level quality on top and it can cost.

Something we have never gone out and got, nor have we either had the money to do so, or people with the knowledge and ability to use money well when we have it.

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35 minutes ago, BLRed said:

Something we have never gone out and got, nor have we either had the money to do so, or people with the knowledge and ability to use money well when we have it.

Gould then PA to an extent plus NP and his team had it IMO.

I also think NP and his team would have got more out of the players we signed during the big spending era, without a doubt.

I thought we were built for a 4-3-3 at that time..Webster and Kalas to a lesser degree can play into midfield, a third man helps with this and security, Weimann central at times, Diedhiou at others.

Eliasson high and wide on the left etc.

Yet LJ played pretty much everything but a genuine 4-3-3. I'd be intrigued at the rationale- Weimann on the right, Wells and Diedhiou..Weimann and Wells wwre peak era then, what was he playing at?

I could go on..

                Bentley

  Hunt Kalas Baker DaSilva

         Massengo Nagy

  Brownhill Smith Eliasson

               Weimann

Subs: Maenpaa, Pereira, Williams, Rowe, O'Dowda, Eliasson, Diedhiou

I'm probably missing a host of players too?

Trying to shoehorn in Diedhiou didn't help, trying to shoehorn in Palmer post Afobe injury also didn't help.

        Fielding (Maenpaa)

Hunt Kalas Webster DaSilva

      Brownhill Pack Smith

    Paterson          Eliasson

                 Weimann

Subs: Fielding (Maenpaa/O'Leary), Pisano, Wright, Baker, Kelly Walsh/Morrell, O'Dowda, Diedhiou

Among others.

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2 hours ago, JAWS said:

Bore off lansclown. I bet he thinks Southgate is a good manager. They're probably in the same chess club and wear sketchers

I wear Sketchers. They're very comfortable and the height of fashion. They look lovely with a tank top and corduroy trousers.

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2 hours ago, 95red said:

We won't spend 3 mil on 3 players let alone  1, people  expecting more are going to be very disappointed . 

In an ideal world £10-15m after the necessary austerity and tough times to save our FFP position.

I will say credit to even SL that we did it the purely honest way. I fear you are probably close to the mark maybe £5m or so across 3 if we're lucky?

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11 hours ago, bristol red said:

I would be very surprised if Twine didn’t join us. I guess it’s a matter of waiting for their new manager before letting players go but he wants to come, we want him, a new manager will not want players that don’t want to be there. I expect him to sign on loan with a perm fee agreed and additions based on appearances etc

Who says he doesn't want to be there? 

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7 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

In an ideal world £10-15m after the necessary austerity and tough times to save our FFP position.

I will say credit to even SL that we did it the purely honest way. I fear you are probably close to the mark maybe £5m or so across 3 if we're lucky?

It doesn’t really matter what we spend, as long as they are the right players and make us better than we were last season.

If the budget is £5m, I don’t see us getting the calibre of players to improve us that much, unless we do what’s been talked about recently - getting a player or two in on loan with a view to buying next season. This does though, kick the spending “down the road” for 12 months and so doesn’t really help us financially overall?

Interesting few weeks coming up…

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3 hours ago, Loosey Boy said:

It doesn’t really matter what we spend, as long as they are the right players and make us better than we were last season.

If the budget is £5m, I don’t see us getting the calibre of players to improve us that much, unless we do what’s been talked about recently - getting a player or two in on loan with a view to buying next season. This does though, kick the spending “down the road” for 12 months and so doesn’t really help us financially overall?

Interesting few weeks coming up…

Oh agreed. Big money can flop, unheralded can be very astute. I just think we don't have the balance quite right atm.

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3 hours ago, Loosey Boy said:

It doesn’t really matter what we spend, as long as they are the right players and make us better than we were last season.

If the budget is £5m, I don’t see us getting the calibre of players to improve us that much, unless we do what’s been talked about recently - getting a player or two in on loan with a view to buying next season. This does though, kick the spending “down the road” for 12 months and so doesn’t really help us financially overall?

Interesting few weeks coming up…

I don't get any sense that the purse strings have been tightened "for the time being".

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8 hours ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

I don't get any sense that the purse strings have been tightened "for the time being".

Not sure where people get £5m as our summer transfer budget?

Getting 4 x forward/attacking players will be £10m minimum and I don’t think that’s an unrealistic figure especially if we are seeking better value on the continent 

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21 minutes ago, INCRED said:

Not sure where people get £5m as our summer transfer budget?

Getting 4 x forward/attacking players will be £10m minimum and I don’t think that’s an unrealistic figure especially if we are seeking better value on the continent 

…and the selling clubs know it 👀

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