Mr Popodopolous Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 16 minutes ago, slartibartfast said: For a "huge" club, they're more tin pot than us ! They don't spend very well...and either FFP or new FFP or Owners not putting in as much as they once did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 35 minutes ago, 38MC said: And I'm pretty sure it's only allowed within the competition rules for loans and not permanent transfers where the playing rights are transferred from one club to another. A more creative solution though would be to complete the transfer after the cut off time for the player to be registered in time for the game... so you're right it could be done, but I'm sure not in any meaningful and enforceable way other than that. Have you a source? The obvious one is to do so after cut off but I'm sure it can be worked that he doesn't play vs us on Day 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen hump Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 7 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Have you a source? The obvious one is to do so after cut off but I'm sure it can be worked that he doesn't play vs us on Day 1. It would have to be a gentleman’s agreement 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numbeast Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 1 hour ago, fly in the air said: if he went to Hull this week put a clause In not to play Sat. surely not that difficult Easier than that, we take him up on the coach, we get there mid afternoon and the deadline to play the following day has past. Why make it complicated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 2 hours ago, Sleepy1968 said: Regardless of what's gone on, if true, this is classless and vindictive. Like kids- Time they bloody well grew up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 4 minutes ago, Son of Fred said: Like kids- Time they bloody well grew up. They won't... I wonder if they would be petulant enough to keep Conway out of first team contention for the entire season if no move somehow materialised. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyez Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 2 hours ago, fly in the air said: if he went to Hull this week put a clause In not to play Sat. surely not that difficult Not sure that’s how it works mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen hump Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: They won't... I wonder if they would be petulant enough to keep Conway out of first team contention for the entire season if no move somehow materialised. It won’t come to that but I honestly think they’d have to ‘ there’s no coming back from this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 2 hours ago, Sleepy1968 said: Regardless of what's gone on, if true, this is classless and vindictive. Perhaps they think if they tweet about his birthday, people might realise he is over 21? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfctim Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 5 hours ago, Sleepy1968 said: Regardless of what's gone on, if true, this is classless and vindictive. Maybe it's simply because they think he'd just get abuse, social media being what it is 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 43 minutes ago, bcfctim said: Maybe it's simply because they think he'd just get abuse, social media being what it is Good point. But can't you turn off comments on a tweet? If not they could just put it on the website if they really were concerned. Sad state of affairs, whatever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 (edited) 7 hours ago, Charlie0016 said: Tommy Conways birthday today … club haven’t posted anything about it. was Weimanns birthday yesterday and guess what … the club posted about it Oh well… at least The Moose did Edited August 6 by Winston 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 4 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: They won't... I wonder if they would be petulant enough to keep Conway out of first team contention for the entire season if no move somehow materialised. Yes they would Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 7 hours ago, Charlie0016 said: Tommy Conways birthday today … club haven’t posted anything about it. was Weimanns birthday yesterday and guess what … the club posted about it We have to be the nasties club in the football league. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 (edited) ITK on Boro forum says Conway coming to them and in fact medical tomorrow….hmmm. Same guy who called Hamilton apparently. Edited August 6 by Shauntaylor85 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 1 minute ago, Shauntaylor85 said: ITK on Boro forum says Conway coming to them and in fact medical tomorrow….hmmm. Same guy who called Hamilton apparently. Hope it’s true, good move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 19 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Hope it’s true, good move. Good move for us or TC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 19 minutes ago, Loosey Boy said: Good move for us or TC? TC primarily. City secondary that they will hopefully have sold a player they want to sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 Phenomenal insight here from Ian ”Gut feel is that City will accept the best offer” No. Shit. Sherlock. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 4 hours ago, Shauntaylor85 said: ITK on Boro forum says Conway coming to them and in fact medical tomorrow….hmmm. Same guy who called Hamilton apparently. Aaron Burr? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashton Fete Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said: Phenomenal insight here from Ian ”Gut feel is that City will accept the best offer” No. Shit. Sherlock. That is so staggeringly bland ITK it’s cringeworthy He's a fan like all of us so his opinion is worth the same as any but come on, this is just silly now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 5 hours ago, Davefevs said: TC primarily. City secondary that they will hopefully have sold a player they want to sell. I’m not sure it is Dave - will he play if he goes there? Latte will be their No1 CF and bearing in mind they typically play one up front, he will have to bide his time and then when he does get a chance, he will have to take it. Hull on the other hand - he would be their main man. Time will tell……either way, both parties will want this done “n” dusted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 2 hours ago, Silvio Dante said: Phenomenal insight here from Ian ”Gut feel is that City will accept the best offer” No. Shit. Sherlock. That’s a lot of words to say nothing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly in the air Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 according to Ian no offer has been accepted yet. well I suggest get it done and put this sorry situation behind us and move on and concentrate on getting a couple of players in to make us stronger. it's dragging on far to long 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 So TC could go up to both Hull and Boro today and decide what's best for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnzFM Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 Can we change the thread title to destination unknown please, just so I get that tune in my head for the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly in the air Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 I would get Mark Ashton in for one day to get the deal for Conways transfer sorted. he knows how to sell a player. I dont understand why it's so slow. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 7 minutes ago, fly in the air said: I would get Mark Ashton in for one day to get the deal for Conways transfer sorted. he knows how to sell a player. I dont understand why it's so slow. Welcome to the world of football transfers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 9 minutes ago, fly in the air said: I would get Mark Ashton in for one day to get the deal for Conways transfer sorted. he knows how to sell a player. I dont understand why it's so slow. He can sell for good prices, granted. I wouldn't want him anywhere near the buying arm though. Time will tell but right now I believe Ipswich have paid vastly overpaid for Liam Delap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderwithtommy Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 4 hours ago, Silvio Dante said: Phenomenal insight here from Ian ”Gut feel is that City will accept the best offer” No. Shit. Sherlock. City moving away from the old “accept the worst offer” tactic I see 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 1 hour ago, Swede said: So TC could go up to both Hull and Boro today and decide what's best for him But we haven't accepted an offer from either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 46 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: He can sell for good prices, granted. I wouldn't want him anywhere near the buying arm though. Time will tell but right now I believe Ipswich have paid vastly overpaid for Liam Delap. Not defending his tenure at City but he has done a great job for Ipswich since ha has been there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 50 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: He can sell for good prices, granted. I wouldn't want him anywhere near the buying arm though. Time will tell but right now I believe Ipswich have paid vastly overpaid for Liam Delap. That be Premiere League Ipswich. Id rather have Ashton dealing with transfers than who/what we have now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bcfc24 Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 1 hour ago, fly in the air said: I would get Mark Ashton in for one day to get the deal for Conways transfer sorted. he knows how to sell a player. I dont understand why it's so slow. He would have also probably sorted the Twine debacle, he did a lot wrong did Mark, but these sagas would have never happened under him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotswoldred2 Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 2 hours ago, Swede said: So TC could go up to both Hull and Boro today and decide what's best for him Rock and a hard place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 I'd say Middlesbrough for sure unless.. *Burnley come in with a bigger bid. *Old Firm *A PL bottom 3rd club come in? Brentford...their new £30m striker is injured. Toney is surely off, Maupay back at Everton post loan. *Maybe A European Club. Of Hull or Middlesbrough, the latter are in a much more solid place and should be strong play-off contenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 I wonder if Brentford have put Toney in the U21s albeit Raya went for good money this year and they do have PL cash behind them- plus 3 Years Parachutes should the worst happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 2 hours ago, Swede said: So TC could go up to both Hull and Boro today and decide what's best for him ONLY if we accept offers from both clubs. He's our player and if either of those two don't offer enough we don't accept their bid, simple as that. It's not a case of everything being Tommy's choice at this moment. If we say to him "the only club that has submitted an acceptable offer is Middlesbrough" then his "choice" is to go to Middlesbrough or spend a season in the 21's at Bristol City. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderMeUp Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 6 hours ago, Silvio Dante said: Phenomenal insight here from Ian ”Gut feel is that City will accept the best offer” No. Shit. Sherlock. “In a twist from the norm, Bristol City have today decided to accept the worst offer on the table for Tommy Conway, a club insider said we are looking at doing things a little differently around here” 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderMeUp Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Bcfc24 said: He would have also probably sorted the Twine debacle, he did a lot wrong did Mark, but these sagas would have never happened under him Same thing happened with tomlin, didn’t it? He was forever saying about moving pieces in the puzzle and that. Happens at every club. Edited August 7 by ZiderMeUp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 I had a look at a similar situation although I admit you can be somewhat insulated in the PL hut they are a lower midtable club at best for cost base I assume. Rays was sold this sunmer. https://www.caughtoffside.com/2024/08/04/frank-would-be-delighted-if-toney-stayed-at-brentford/ Guess what. Win-win for Thomas Frank. If he goes some cash to reinvest, if he stays great striker. That is how he sees it anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I wonder if Brentford have put Toney in the U21s albeit Raya went for good money this year and they do have PL cash behind them- plus 3 Years Parachutes should the worst happen. I think in the Toney situation, it's more a case of how much can Brentford get for him? There are a number of clubs higher up the food chain that want him. I don't think exile is needed to force the move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 12 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I wonder if Brentford have put Toney in the U21s albeit Raya went for good money this year and they do have PL cash behind them- plus 3 Years Parachutes should the worst happen. No they havent. But i see Conor Gallagher was told that he wouldnt get first team action after rejecting a contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 2 minutes ago, mozo said: I think in the Toney situation, it's more a case of how much can Brentford get for him? There are a number of clubs higher up the food chain that want him. I don't think exile is needed to force the move. I reckon Thomas Frank wouldn't have an issue keeping him tbh.. The asking price has reportedly fallen fwiw once if not twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 2 minutes ago, Riaz said: No they havent. But i see Conor Gallagher was told that he wouldnt get first team action after rejecting a contract Hard to say with Chelsea. On one hand this is true, otoh Maresca was moaning the other day about FFP Rules incentivising sale of youth players. Tiny violin on that point tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 4 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I had a look at a similar situation although I admit you can be somewhat insulated in the PL hut they are a lower midtable club at best for cost base I assume. Rays was sold this sunmer. https://www.caughtoffside.com/2024/08/04/frank-would-be-delighted-if-toney-stayed-at-brentford/ Guess what. Win-win for Thomas Frank. If he goes some cash to reinvest, if he stays great striker. That is how he sees it anyway. As I say, different dynamic. Toney is the finished article, Conway is developing. Toney has top notch suitors, Conway has marginal progress available to him. Toney wouldn't benefit so much from seeing out his contract as Conway. Plus City have already bought Conway's replacement. Perhaps Conor Gallagher a better comparison? Not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNQ Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 17 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: ONLY if we accept offers from both clubs. He's our player and if either of those two don't offer enough we don't accept their bid, simple as that. It's not a case of everything being Tommy's choice at this moment. If we say to him "the only club that has submitted an acceptable offer is Middlesbrough" then his "choice" is to go to Middlesbrough or spend a season in the 21's at Bristol City. That’s until he says I’ll spend a season with the 21’s at Bristol City thanks… Secondary offers would then be revisited by the club quick smart. At the moment I reckon Tommy is holding all the cards.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I reckon Thomas Frank wouldn't have an issue keeping him tbh.. The asking price has reportedly fallen fwiw once if not twice. Hard to say if Franck genuinely wants Toney to stay or if it is just sales patter. Either way, Toney is arguably a far bigger asset on the pitch than Conway is for us. I'm a big fan of Conway, but he's still pretty fresh at this level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bcfc24 Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 14 minutes ago, ZiderMeUp said: Same thing happened with tomlin, didn’t it? He was forever saying about moving pieces in the puzzle and that. Happens at every club. Ashton got Tomlin sorted in early July, very different to these Sagas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 3 minutes ago, FNQ said: That’s until he says I’ll spend a season with the 21’s at Bristol City thanks… Secondary offers would then be revisited by the club quick smart. At the moment I reckon Tommy is holding all the cards.. That all depends on Steve. He can afford to write off a couple of million quid even if it does hurt both the club and his pocket and say "rock on Tommy, 21's until January it is then for you lad and we'll see what you want to do then"................I think such a move from Tommy would be reckless and a car crash would ensue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 13 minutes ago, Riaz said: No they havent. But i see Conor Gallagher was told that he wouldnt get first team action after rejecting a contract Unlikely that would have happened if they hadnt had a queue of clubs at the door with upwards of £40 million smackaroonies in their mutts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNQ Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 2 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: That all depends on Steve. He can afford to write off a couple of million quid even if it does hurt both the club and his pocket and say "rock on Tommy, 21's until January it is then for you lad and we'll see what you want to do then"................I think such a move from Tommy would be reckless and a car crash would ensue. We’re talking about the same Steve right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 Just now, FNQ said: We’re talking about the same Steve right? If a billionaire wants to prove a point, whether childish or otherwise, then he can afford to do it. It's not as cut and dry as you think imo. I refuse to believe that the treatment Tommy has received from the club so far hasn't been at least ratified if not sanctioned from the very top, put it that way. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 14 minutes ago, FNQ said: That’s until he says I’ll spend a season with the 21’s at Bristol City thanks… Secondary offers would then be revisited by the club quick smart. At the moment I reckon Tommy is holding all the cards.. A season with the U21's isn't good for development. He has only just turned 22, I would argue that strikers usually start to peak around 24, 25 sometimes later. That is if he even got any gametime, solely Training with a Group that he has significantly outgrown for an entire That would be quite a gamble on his part too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 39 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I wonder if Brentford have put Toney in the U21s albeit Raya went for good money this year and they do have PL cash behind them- plus 3 Years Parachutes should the worst happen. Bit of a difference between Toney and Conway.Hardly comparable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNQ Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 4 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: If a billionaire wants to prove a point, whether childish or otherwise, then he can afford to do it. It's not as cut and dry as you think imo. I refuse to believe that the treatment Tommy has received from the club so far hasn't been at least ratified if not sanctioned from the very top, put it that way. Certainly don’t disagree there… but I still can’t see Tommy going anywhere yet where he doesn’t want to. I guess we’ll all know soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNQ Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 11 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: A season with the U21's isn't good for development. He has only just turned 22, I would argue that strikers usually start to peak around 24, 25 sometimes later. That is if he even got any gametime, solely Training with a Group that he has significantly outgrown for an entire That would be quite a gamble on his part too. I still don’t think it will happen, but if it did it wouldn’t necessarily be for a season, more like January.. could even be back in our first team if we change the manager in October again?(ironically as if it was because we’re not scoring enough goals..) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 16 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: If a billionaire wants to prove a point, whether childish or otherwise, then he can afford to do it. It's not as cut and dry as you think imo. I refuse to believe that the treatment Tommy has received from the club so far hasn't been at least ratified if not sanctioned from the very top, put it that way. Should we be setting an example too to the current batch of young kids? They will be allowed to move upwards, they have to so we can get their transfer fees in, but we really cant let them wind contracts down like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 Just now, FNQ said: I still don’t think it will happen, but if it did it wouldn’t necessarily be for a season, more like January.. could even be back in our first team if we change the manager in October again?(ironically as if it was because we’re not scoring enough goals..) I don't think the hierarchy can back down now. Manning will have had a say but not the sole one IMO.. 6 months in the U21s while not terminal doesn't help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 13 minutes ago, Redrascal2 said: Bit of a difference between Toney and Conway.Hardly comparable. Well yes and no. I'm not comparing them as Players as such, I'm comparing them in the last year of their contract who are Prime Assets and the best striker at their respective club(s). Not that it means much but Conway is ahead of Toney at a comparable age by certain metrics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 37 minutes ago, mozo said: Hard to say if Franck genuinely wants Toney to stay or if it is just sales patter. I doubt that it matters to Franck if the club lose money. What’s important to him is winning matches. He has a top striker in his squad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 8 minutes ago, Simon bristol said: Should we be setting an example too to the current batch of young kids? They will be allowed to move upwards, they have to so we can get their transfer fees in, but we really cant let them wind contracts down like this. That's the biggest learning lesson for the club. They have got to be cuter with contract offers (where was the +1 at the club's discretion in Tommy's for instance?) and not just assume that "good old Tommy" will sign his offer in due course because he's been here since he was seven. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 46 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: I doubt that it matters to Franck if the club lose money. What’s important to him is winning matches. He has a top striker in his squad. You might be right. I don't think Tommy will be regarded in the same way. I think Tommy is a good young striker with big potential, but not as significant to us as Toney will be to Brentford. The plan is for Armstrong to step in and be the good young striker with potential. Finger crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38MC Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 7 hours ago, Silvio Dante said: Phenomenal insight here from Ian ”Gut feel is that City will accept the best offer” No. Shit. Sherlock. And he's completely wrong - we absolutely could give Tommy permission to discuss personal terms whilst we are thrashing out the transfer details. In fact that's probably wise, it helps from a budgetary perspective for Boro if they are able to get a remuneration package that suits them, if the player agrees terms and appears willing to join then they may be encouraged to move from their current position for fear of other clubs coming in and him agreeing more favourable terms with them as 'Boro's wage packet offer is £X, what's yours' leading him to renegotiate, and it will speed things up. All Tommy needs is our permission to speak to clubs, he does not need us to accept a bid. Why would we withhold permission for a player who is stuck in the under-21's, who wants to leave, and we clearly want to sell. It's an absolute nonsense. Instead you'd say 'here's SL's jet, get up there and impress them with your attitude Tommy' 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Well yes and no. I'm not comparing them as Players as such, I'm comparing them in the last year of their contract who are Prime Assets and the best striker at their respective club(s). Not that it means much but Conway is ahead of Toney at a comparable age by certain metrics. Fair point but I think Toney brings a lot lot more to his team than Conway does to ours at this moment. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritAbroad Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 3 minutes ago, Redrascal2 said: Fair point but I think Toney brings a lot lot more to his team than Conway does to ours at this moment. Also this is Toney's last chance at a big move at his age, so he'll bust a gut for Brentford this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 24 minutes ago, 38MC said: And he's completely wrong - we absolutely could give Tommy permission to discuss personal terms whilst we are thrashing out the transfer details. In fact that's probably wise, it helps from a budgetary perspective for Boro if they are able to get a remuneration package that suits them, if the player agrees terms and appears willing to join then they may be encouraged to move from their current position for fear of other clubs coming in and him agreeing more favourable terms with them as 'Boro's wage packet offer is £X, what's yours' leading him to renegotiate, and it will speed things up. All Tommy needs is our permission to speak to clubs, he does not need us to accept a bid. Why would we withhold permission for a player who is stuck in the under-21's, who wants to leave, and we clearly want to sell. It's an absolute nonsense. Instead you'd say 'here's SL's jet, get up there and impress them with your attitude Tommy' Exactly. Great post btw. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 5 minutes ago, Redrascal2 said: Fair point but I think Toney brings a lot lot more to his team than Conway does to ours at this moment. Toney is also much older and more experienced so you'd expect it in a sense. Conway has just turned 22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Toney is also much older and more experienced so you'd expect it in a sense. Conway has just turned 22. When was his birthday? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 4 minutes ago, Davefevs said: When was his birthday? Maybe we should ask the Club. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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