Redrascal2 Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 It might have been mentioned on this massive thread but is the sale of Conway being delayed by talk of this swap deal with Burnley. Not only could we miss our on Twine anyway but surely the longer the Conway saga goes the more the risk of the price we get for him decreasing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 46 minutes ago, Redrascal2 said: It might have been mentioned on this massive thread but is the sale of Conway being delayed by talk of this swap deal with Burnley. Not only could we miss our on Twine anyway but surely the longer the Conway saga goes the more the risk of the price we get for him decreasing. This is fair as well. Point is there could be a Scenario with no winners. We have 23 days to avoid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 Let’s do the twist! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 I've a feeling Middlesbrough will turn bids down but we shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 40 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I've a feeling Middlesbrough will turn bids down but we shall see. What would Wolves go to? £30m? More? Boro would be mad to let him go unless it's an idiotic bid, or it's a very good one and they have a replacement lined up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly in the air Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 another day still no movement in or out. o well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly in the air Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 reports on line Conway is getting closer to a move to Boro. maybe today is the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 55 minutes ago, fly in the air said: reports on line Conway is getting closer to a move to Boro. maybe today is the day. Reports from whom ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 1 minute ago, Major Isewater said: Reports from whom ? From @fly in the air 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 I’m hoping this deal, as well as for Twine, finally hits a conclusion soon. If only because I am concerned for the health of some of those on here……. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly in the air Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 from rangers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr Popodopolous Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Up front can mean 2 things IMO. I take it to mean in tbis instance we want say £4m in guaranteed Fee and £1m if and when Add-Ons hit. These are conditional obviously. Profit and Loss. Other possibility is that we literally want at least half in the first instalment and the rest spread over- whatever period.. that's Cash Flow. The 2nd shouldn't be an issue with SL at the helm but he does want to spend less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly in the air Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 be careful Boro dont tell city to sod off. then tins and co will look stupid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 17 minutes ago, Bcfc24 said: I believe there is some logic as to why Boro are leading the race. I heard the transfer fee is towards the £3m mark and the rest is add-ons. Sorry, hardly a revelation or unguessable either. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 5 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I believe there is some logic as to why Boro are leading the race. I heard the transfer fee is towards the £3m mark and the rest is add-ons. Sorry, hardly a revelation or unguessable either. And Boro want to pay a fiver up front . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 6 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I believe there is some logic as to why Boro are leading the race. I heard the transfer fee is towards the £3m mark and the rest is add-ons. Sorry, hardly a revelation or unguessable either. Lee Johnson Fan loves you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hocca Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 (edited) Middlesbrough closing in apparently , delay due to City wanting more of the fee upfront. should probably read other posts before I repeat news Edited August 8 by Hocca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: I believe there is some logic as to why Boro are leading the race. I heard the transfer fee is towards the £3m mark and the rest is add-ons. Sorry, hardly a revelation or unguessable either. I'd be okay with that. We'll speculate forever as to whether we could have got 4 or 5 mill from Boro with different posturing. But at least we get profit on the books without losing him to Celtic or Rangers next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HengroveReds Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Why are we even haggling over the fee, he wants out, let him go! Any fee is a bonus seeing as he could be gone for free in 10 months! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 1 hour ago, Major Isewater said: And Boro want to pay a fiver up front . Can’t we include the full £5M in our accounts this year due to him being a youth player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Just now, Shauntaylor85 said: Can’t we include the full £5M in our accounts this year due to him being a youth player? No. Only If Middlesbrough pay £5m in one hit. Otherwise it is e.g. £2-3m in straight fee, and then add-ons appear as, if or when they fall due. Conditional- but like the sell-ons for Webster, Kelly, Brownhill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 1 hour ago, TammyAB said: Lee Johnson Fan loves you I noticed that ha! He put's a confused emoji on most of Fev's posts. The most innocuous posts too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 29 minutes ago, mozo said: I'd be okay with that. We'll speculate forever as to whether we could have got 4 or 5 mill from Boro with different posturing. But at least we get profit on the books without losing him to Celtic or Rangers next season. I'll speculate that the up front fee will be closer to 4m plus add-ons to make it up to 5m, plus a good sell-on percentage. Boro are keen to get him in asap and 4m up front for Conway represents a good deal all round. If he wants to go there, then he'll be gone early next week I would think - but this thread will still be going strong for another 100 pages.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 10 minutes ago, HengroveReds said: Why are we even haggling over the fee, he wants out, let him go! Any fee is a bonus seeing as he could be gone for free in 10 months! Yeah just let him go for anything, don't consider negotiating how much. He only came from the academy and wants to go. That all seems very sensible. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 58 minutes ago, Hocca said: Middlesbrough closing in apparently , delay due to City wanting more of the fee upfront. should probably read other posts before I repeat news Interesting whether you’re suggesting City want more of the circa (believed to be) £3m as a first payment, or whether they want to increase transfer fee and have less add-ons? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Has he gone yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HengroveReds Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 21 minutes ago, RedRoss said: Yeah just let him go for anything, don't consider negotiating how much. He only came from the academy and wants to go. That all seems very sensible. City are haggling over upfront fee. Deal worth up to 5mil. If boro are offering 2.5 million up front, let him go, we’d get certain add ons for goals international caps & potential sell on clause, is it really worth holding out for an extra million upfront tops with a view to lose him on a free and not get a sell on / add ons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC31 Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 15 minutes ago, Midred said: Has he gone yet? No but God I wish he was 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly in the air Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 who at the club does the negotiating on transfers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hocca Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 27 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Interesting whether you’re suggesting City want more of the circa (believed to be) £3m as a first payment, or whether they want to increase transfer fee and have less add-ons? Increased transfer fee less add ons it’s sounds like to me. Not that I’m ITK or anything that’s just my take on it. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 16 minutes ago, HengroveReds said: City are haggling over upfront fee. Deal worth up to 5mil. If boro are offering 2.5 million up front, let him go, we’d get certain add ons for goals international caps & potential sell on clause, is it really worth holding out for an extra million upfront tops with a view to lose him on a free and not get a sell on / add ons. What if (for ffp reasons) we need more up front, to afford to bring in twine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 11 minutes ago, HengroveReds said: City are haggling over upfront fee. Deal worth up to 5mil. If boro are offering 2.5 million up front, let him go, we’d get certain add ons for goals international caps & potential sell on clause, is it really worth holding out for an extra million upfront tops with a view to lose him on a free and not get a sell on / add ons. Yes, it is worth negotiating more upfront (guaranteed) because nothing is guaranteed with any add-ons. It sounds like multiple clubs are interested so we're not going to not sell him. I want him sold asap however, that doesn't mean we shouldn't negotiate the maximum out of it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie0016 Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 8 minutes ago, fly in the air said: who at the club does the negotiating on transfers. I wish it was Ashton he’d have been sold 2 weeks ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 1 minute ago, Riaz said: What if (for ffp reasons) we need more up front, to afford to bring in twine? That isn't an issue at all. SL putting in less Cash and or Equity each year is probably a bigger consideration. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 15 minutes ago, Charlie0016 said: I wish it was Ashton he’d have been sold 2 weeks ago Yeah, and we'd have already spunked the fee 5 times over on a collection of players that we don't really need. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 32 minutes ago, fly in the air said: who at the club does the negotiating on transfers. Mickey Mouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/middlesbrough-closing-in-on-5m-tommy-conway-deal/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly in the air Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 it does seem like Mickey is doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 So, we're sure TC is happy to go to Boro? (I think it would be a good move for him - good manager, looking to make playoffs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rs Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Maybe we are looking for more of the transfer fee guranteed instead of add ons to improve our ability to reinvest elsewhere. Manning said he still wants a couple more additions and at least one (a 10) won’t be cheap. Makes sense if so but it’s good to know we have genuine offers on the table so there’s very little chance we get nothing for Conway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly in the air Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Blimey is this soap still going on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Who didn't think it would drag. I did. Both parties want the best possible deal they can get. Then the complicating factor of whether TC himself wants to go a Club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Wilson Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Middlesbrough is a good move if it materialises. Likely to be going for top 6, strong supply line although he has to compete with Latte Lath probably. Strong competition could bring a new level out of him. He isn't PL ready yet probably, seems a sensible move to progress his career if it materialises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Boro will finish lower than us - yes I will bet a tenner for charity !! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 (edited) Am I the only one who doesn't give a flying one if it's a good move for Conway or not, I just want it to be a good move for City ? the sooner the better the little twerp ***** off ! Edited August 8 by slartibartfast 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 4 minutes ago, Meh said: Boro will finish lower than us - yes I will bet a tenner for charity !! No chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 29 minutes ago, George Rs said: Maybe we are looking for more of the transfer fee guranteed instead of add ons to improve our ability to reinvest elsewhere. Manning said he still wants a couple more additions and at least one (a 10) won’t be cheap. Makes sense if so but it’s good to know we have genuine offers on the table so there’s very little chance we get nothing for Conway. Who is the second player? A CB eg a McNally or a right sided overseas player as mentioned on here last week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddarwedlocker Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 6 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: Who is the second player? A CB eg a McNally or a right sided overseas player as mentioned on here last week? Mcnally aint happening, player is overseas but idk about position 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 2 hours ago, fly in the air said: who at the club does the negotiating on transfers. The CEO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmite Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 28 minutes ago, Meh said: Boro will finish lower than us - yes I will bet a tenner for charity !! Blimey they're gonna have a bad season then! But I actually agree with you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Carrick speaks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 32 minutes ago, slartibartfast said: Am I the only one who doesn't give a flying one if it's a good move for Conway or not, I just want it to be a good move for City ? the sooner the better the little twerp ***** off ! If it’s a good move for TC then it’s a good move for City. That’s to say that we’ll get good add ons and a continued reputation for grooming young players of quality at our academy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HengroveReds Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 13 minutes ago, BCFC K said: I’m glad you’re not negotiating. What upfront fee can we expect in reality, I’d say no more than 3.5 million for a player out of contract in summer? In comparison to Armstrong too for 1.5ish OOC next summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Carrick speaks! But not much! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Just now, REDOXO said: But not much! Ha yeah..no news is, no news. Clickbait probably. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 The Irish Press said Shamrock Rovers for €0.7m in Sell-on for Armstrong. That being 25%. Which would mean £600,190.50. Which being pedantic and using today's Exchange Rate would make it £2,400,762. Post Balance Sheet Events may tell us a few things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Just now, Mr Popodopolous said: The Irish Press said Shamrock Rovers for €0.7m in Sell-on for Armstrong. That being 25%. Which would mean £600,190.50. Which being pedantic and using today's Exchange Rate would make it £2,400,762. Post Balance Sheet Events may tell us a few things. That might be the case with add-ons! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: That might be the case with add-ons! Okay they're maybe misreporting it then, or exaggerating. Surely Shamrock Rovers would maybe they receive 25% Of Base Fee, 25% Of Add-Ons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsham Alf Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Conways move as good as done - Boro are trying to push it through in time for him to be in the squad for Saturday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 3 minutes ago, Corsham Alf said: Conways move as good as done - Boro are trying to push it through in time for him to be in the squad for Saturday Hopefully this one sticks… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonred Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 2 minutes ago, Corsham Alf said: Conways move as good as done - Boro are trying to push it through in time for him to be in the squad for Saturday Well lets hope we re-invest that money for Twine so he can be in our squad for Sat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly in the air Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 how do you know its nearly done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 5 minutes ago, fly in the air said: how do you know its nearly done. Damn cheek if you ask me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly in the air Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 o well never mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted August 8 Admin Share Posted August 8 13 minutes ago, fly in the air said: how do you know its nearly done. He had a vivid dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 21 minutes ago, Ian M said: He had a vivid dream. That comes out in the wash . 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsham Alf Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 There’s a late twist - Conways agent is trying to put the breaks on the boro deal now as Hull are prepared to offer more in wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 1 minute ago, Corsham Alf said: There’s a late twist - Conways agent is trying to put the breaks on the boro deal now as Hull are prepared to offer more in wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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