Bcfc24 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Few rumours in the Dundee forums that SPH is off there for the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Their source was Bristol City forum! Full circle. We know that Dundee are one of the many clubs that could be an option for Seb. Dundee managed by Tony Doherty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Would have thought we’d have given him a pre season here atleast, was hoping he might have been in and around the first team this season if conways sold. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Dundee or Dundee United? Have some friends that are United fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 2 minutes ago, Negan said: Would have thought we’d have given him a pre season here atleast, was hoping he might have been in and around the first team this season if conways sold. That was the plan…do preseason, see where he is, if a loan deemed necessary, tout Dundee, Shrewsbury, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 I'm not convinced he is ready yet but others have seen more of him and maybe have a more informed view. Dundee are SPL these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Just now, DaveF said: Dundee or Dundee United? Have some friends that are United fans. Dundee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 8 minutes ago, DaveF said: Dundee or Dundee United? Have some friends that are United fans. Lorraine Kelly ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Scottish Prem - decent level for the lad. Would prefer League 1 but maybe that’s English bias, not sure how the two leagues actually compare. Matches against Rangers and Celtic would be good tests for the big man. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Offer him to Aberdeen as part of a deal, bringing Miovski to us…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bcfc24 Posted June 21 Author Share Posted June 21 Confirmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddarwedlocker Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Gotta mean someone is coming in then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) Good luck to Seb anyway, a step up perhaps from Newport and hopefully he flourishes and continues to grow. Edited June 21 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 13 minutes ago, cheddarwedlocker said: Gotta mean someone is coming in then? It must do. No way this would happen otherwise… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 I would have preferred for him to stay, but the club usually give these sort of arrangements a lot of thought. Good luck to him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulton Red Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 A season, I guess we have a striker (or two) incoming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly in the air Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 not surprised he has been sent out of loan. thought he might have waited until a couple of strikers are brought in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfitInMyPocket Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Would wet myself if our only striker option is Wells on the opening day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Billy Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 minute ago, ProfitInMyPocket said: Would wet myself if our only striker option is Wells on the opening day Harry Cornick - it’s your time to shine! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashton Fete Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 4 minutes ago, Red Billy said: Harry Cornick - it’s your time to shine! What a thought . We can’t have another season of Wells and Cornick being the only options off the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 hour ago, slartibartfast said: Lorraine Kelly ? Yeah I'm friends with her daughter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Good move for him - be interesting to see how he does 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Good on you Seb, prepared to get out there and learn your trade the hard way. Best of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashton Fete Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 hour ago, Paulton Red said: A season, I guess we have a striker (or two) incoming With TC more likely than not to leave you’d like to think there’s 2 for certain coming in who are both fighting to start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 hour ago, Ashton Fete said: What a thought . We can’t have another season of Wells and Cornick being the only options off the bench. I have good news for you then. The way things are going they will both be starting! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Hope this new medical bloke can keep Nakhi fit… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 5 minutes ago, Ashton Fete said: With TC more likely than not to leave you’d like to think there’s 2 for certain coming in who are both fighting to start Little the club has done post May 2023 has filled me with confidence but yes two front line, as well as the 7 and 10 must be the aim I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksy Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 3 hours ago, Davefevs said: Their source was Bristol City forum! If they read it on here it must be a done deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksy Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 17 minutes ago, Ashton Fete said: With TC more likely than not to leave you’d like to think there’s 2 for certain coming in who are both fighting to start Told my mate today that city value Conway at £5 Million and he started laughing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlesh*t Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 For all those saying it must mean someone coming in, why? He is/was a youth player that spent last year in league 2. Not sure why this would impact our transfers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 25 minutes ago, marksy said: Told my mate today that city value Conway at £5 Million and he started laughing Very down on Conway, list the players in recent years better by that age with 10 x 2..there aren't many. At Championship level I mean, by age 21. The penalty stats skew it a bit but. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashton Fete Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 2 minutes ago, Littlesh*t said: For all those saying it must mean someone coming in, why? He is/was a youth player that spent last year in league 2. Not sure why this would impact our transfers My logic was that he was likely to be a sub that would get game time this season with the odd 20-30 mins here and then and start some games when we had some injuries. If TC goes which looks more likely than not then we have Wells/Cornick and academy players left. And the pair of them aren’t good enough to be starters for me So 1 new striker wouldn’t be enough so SPH going makes me think we have perhaps 2 coming in. All a game of opinions so could be wildly out of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 52 minutes ago, marksy said: Told my mate today that city value Conway at £5 Million and he started laughing Your mate is a cock. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 3 hours ago, ProfitInMyPocket said: Would wet myself if our only striker option is Wells on the opening day Don’t forget Sam Bell! Not being facetious, Bell can play down the middle, albeit I don’t see him playing it alone. +++++ Well, that was a surprise. Though Seb was getting preseason with the first team, and I was looking forward to seeing how he’d progressed having been on loan. But…the other part of me thinks, if you’re gonna go on loan, go for preseason, so you integrate properly. The Scottish season starts earlier than us, so some clubs are back already. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Yea not too down on this. We may end up light but we have a duty to SPH to grow him the right way. He needs more men’s football and this will give him a blend of experiences with Celtic and Rangers being fringe prem quality sides and a mix of L1/L2 with other sides. If he can stay fit it can be a very productive loan where he comes back completely ready to compete for starts here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 So much for wanting to take a look at him in pre season. Seems we have gone back to the days of loaning players out rather than giving them a chance to impress. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 4 hours ago, Davefevs said: Don’t forget Sam Bell! Not being facetious, Bell can play down the middle, albeit I don’t see him playing it alone. +++++ Well, that was a surprise. Though Seb was getting preseason with the first team, and I was looking forward to seeing how he’d progressed having been on loan. But…the other part of me thinks, if you’re gonna go on loan, go for preseason, so you integrate properly. The Scottish season starts earlier than us, so some clubs are back already. Yes. Dundee’s first competitive game is July 13th, a league cup group tie. Makes sense for him to go up there now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAWS Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 4 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said: So much for wanting to take a look at him in pre season. Seems we have gone back to the days of loaning players out rather than giving them a chance to impress. I suspect its part of SL's business plan WSM. Income from loans. Following the Chelsea model Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 5 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said: So much for wanting to take a look at him in pre season. Seems we have gone back to the days of loaning players out rather than giving them a chance to impress. It does. Hearing JKL off to Lg2 for a loan also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksy Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 10 hours ago, Major Isewater said: Your mate is a cock. I hope we do get £5 Million for him. I think his best destination would be a team in Scotland because he will score goals up there. If he thinks he’ll get game time and score goal in the prem then all the best to him and the team that signs him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 This move could be good for everyone, Seb gets regular football at a decent standard and gets to play at Parkhead, Ibrox and maybe Hampden! City get a better player back in 10 months and Dundee get a promising striker within their financial restrictions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksy Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 11 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Very down on Conway, list the players in recent years better by that age with 10 x 2..there aren't many. At Championship level I mean, by age 21. The penalty stats skew it a bit but. Another season or two with us wouldn’t do him any harm as long as he improves on his finishing. Like you pointed out, he’s only 21. If someone came in with a nice offer then you can’t blame us for accepting it and him for weighing up his options. If he has got an inflated opinion of himself then his advisers should tell him to go to Scotland, I’m sure he’ll get game time up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobBobbin Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 7 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said: So much for wanting to take a look at him in pre season. Seems we have gone back to the days of loaning players out rather than giving them a chance to impress. turns out, the much lauded "pathway" was actually just the manager at the time... 9 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Well that's Dundee as my Scottish team for next season then. I like the town anyway, they have spent a lot of money on it in recent times what with the Discovery Exhibition, the Tate Gallery and references to being the origin of the Dandy and Beano. Also some nice hotels, especially the Hotel Indigo which is built inside the ruins of an old lace mill. The two grounds are literally a walk across the road from each other, but their rivalry seems comparatively friendly from what I have been told by locals. I hope SPH takes his opportunity and also takes a look around the town. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stortfordred Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 7 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said: So much for wanting to take a look at him in pre season. Seems we have gone back to the days of loaning players out rather than giving them a chance to impress. Didn’t work out too shabby for Harry. 14 goals in 56 games for Millwall, Norwich, Leicester and Orient. Followed that up with 200+ goals in 300 games for Tottenham not saying that we have a world beater but Kane was very much an unknown quantity to start with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 27 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Well that's Dundee as my Scottish team for next season then. I like the town anyway, they have spent a lot of money on it in recent times what with the Discovery Exhibition, the Tate Gallery and references to being the origin of the Dandy and Beano. Also some nice hotels, especially the Hotel Indigo which is built inside the ruins of an old lace mill. The two grounds are literally a walk across the road from each other, but their rivalry seems comparatively friendly from what I have been told by locals. I hope SPH takes his opportunity and also takes a look around the town. I believe they even join forces when one or the other of the bigot brothers is in town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, marksy said: Another season or two with us wouldn’t do him any harm as long as he improves on his finishing. Like you pointed out, he’s only 21. If someone came in with a nice offer then you can’t blame us for accepting it and him for weighing up his options. If he has got an inflated opinion of himself then his advisers should tell him to go to Scotland, I’m sure he’ll get game time up there. I actually think that another year wouldn't hurt yes, but I also think replacing on what could be a tight budget let alone upgrading, would be difficult indeed. Edited June 22 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 EP take : https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-cit-offer-summer-transfer-9361184 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 As with England it’s all about getting the right players in the right positions in the attack. Until the first match of the season we shan’t really know if Manning has the right balance of forwards playing in the right system to climb the league. True I am unconvinced by an ageing Wells, a low level performer in Cornick, and the jury still out on Wells and Mehmeti as top Championship players, plus a start to the season with Conway having been sold and no movement in signings and with names mentioned hardly those to engender excitement and the old old problem of tight purse strings. Basic continuing issue, failure to bring new investors into an enhanced Board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 2 hours ago, Ivorguy said: As with England it’s all about getting the right players in the right positions in the attack. Until the first match of the season we shan’t really know if Manning has the right balance of forwards playing in the right system to climb the league. True I am unconvinced by an ageing Wells, a low level performer in Cornick, and the jury still out on Wells and Mehmeti as top Championship players, plus a start to the season with Conway having been sold and no movement in signings and with names mentioned hardly those to engender excitement and the old old problem of tight purse strings. Basic continuing issue, failure to bring new investors into an enhanced Board. I was in pretty good spirits until I read your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Seb will do okay at Dundee. Piece of cake. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 6 hours ago, BobBobBobbin said: turns out, the much lauded "pathway" was actually just the manager at the time... Absolutely. I've raised concerns about Manning being prepared to give youth a go previously. I also said that it was ironic that Tinnion snaked on Pearson cos he'd never find another manager more willing to give youth a chance. What's now clear is that unless a player is or almost is the finished article, he won't be given a chance here. We wouldn't have seen Tommy Conway come through under the new regime in my opinion. I think the loan is good for SPH, however Tinnion has previously said that players can step up a level over the summer break so in my opinion we should have taken a look at him in pre season before deciding if he should go out on loan. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 8 hours ago, Davefevs said: It does. Hearing JKL off to Lg2 for a loan also. Ahhh we're going to need to re-employ that loans physio shortly 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDarwall Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Despite some going v early, we need to see how these loans play out before claiming they're good or bad. I would have liked SPH to have a sniff next season, however, he had a decent but not stellar loan at Newport - it's a helluva ask to then make an impact at the Championship. I think it's way too early to assume we're going back to Johnson era 'death by a thousand loans'. Dundee will be a real opportunity for the lad & depending where TC ends up, he may feature in the Bristol City Strikers Derby. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 1 hour ago, TDarwall said: Despite some going v early, we need to see how these loans play out before claiming they're good or bad. I would have liked SPH to have a sniff next season, however, he had a decent but not stellar loan at Newport - it's a helluva ask to then make an impact at the Championship. I think it's way too early to assume we're going back to Johnson era 'death by a thousand loans'. Dundee will be a real opportunity for the lad & depending where TC ends up, he may feature in the Bristol City Strikers Derby. I guess you have keep in check your expectations on SPH in terms of a breakthrough. Any youngster getting 500-1000 mins in a season is a big achievement. I don’t think anyone should be thinking - if Seb isn’t good enough to lead the attack he needs to go on loan. They can be nurtured at Bristol City too don’t forget!!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobBobbin Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: I guess you have keep in check your expectations on SPH in terms of a breakthrough. Any youngster getting 500-1000 mins in a season is a big achievement. I don’t think anyone should be thinking - if Seb isn’t good enough to lead the attack he needs to go on loan. They can be nurtured at Bristol City too don’t forget!!! Something that seems to have dropped off the radar since the managerial change, unfortunately. Perhaps Seb isn't championship ready; but to my mind (based on a fair bit of evidence/reading/experience) the fastest way to get him to that point is to give him opportunities here and at the level he aspires to reach. On a side note, I actually think he is "ready"; He's got far superior physical traits than some of the players we've blooded in recent years which would help him "learn on the job" without those games, like TC and Bell have had, where the league becomes too big, too powerful and too physical. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 On 22/06/2024 at 01:43, Negan said: Would have thought we’d have given him a pre season here atleast, was hoping he might have been in and around the first team this season if conways sold. Yes I agree, I was looking forward to seeing him compete for a place, however in saying that I wish him well in his development Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 On 21/06/2024 at 18:26, Loosey Boy said: Offer him to Aberdeen as part of a deal, bringing Miovski to us…. The papers in Scotland are still saying that we retain an interest in Miovski (along with Brum) but they're also saying Bologna may be interested. If true it's a no brainier with Bologna gaining the 5th Champions league place that italy were awarded this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 19 hours ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: If true it's a no brainier with Bologna gaining the 5th Champions league place that italy were awarded this year. Things aren’t always so cut and dried. Perhaps he won’t get game time. He may not be comfortable with moving to a foreign country. He may be allergic to pasta. There could be a thousand reasons why he wouldn’t go there and equally as many as why he would but it is not necessarily a ‘ no brainer ‘ . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 4 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Things aren’t always so cut and dried. Perhaps he won’t get game time. He may not be comfortable with moving to a foreign country. He may be allergic to pasta. There could be a thousand reasons why he wouldn’t go there and equally as many as why he would but it is not necessarily a ‘ no brainer ‘ . Fair enough, I should have said likely no brainier. I don't think moving to a foreign country would be a problem as he's already moved from his native North Macedonia to Scotland. I'm not sure what similarities there are between the two nations or what his interests are but if he likes food (not just pasta) Bologna ranks amongst the best Italy has to offer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Dundee first game is a derby against Dundee United. Be nice if Seb can put in a good performance against them and get the fans behind him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Just now, Gillies Downs Leeds said: Dundee first game is a derby against Dundee United. Be nice if Seb can put in a good performance against them and get the fans behind him. Also played them on 2nd Jan too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonred Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Seb Palmer-Houlden played the whole second half for Dundee as they beat Arbroath, 3-1 in pre-season. Seb nearly scored an attempt from a corner, but had little opportunity in the game, although he never stopped harrassing the defence 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Scored a nice goal today. 10 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 1 hour ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said: Scored a nice goal today. Looks very strong 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 17 minutes ago, alexukhc said: Looks very strong Sort of player that we’re after but no chance he’d come here. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamin Groovy Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Great strike Seb! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broodje Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 5 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Sort of player that we’re after but no chance he’d come here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Love that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 Not in squad today for their cup match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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