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The thing for me is I can forgive mistakes and poor performances but I find it very hard to forgive Southgate doing the same over and over again and expecting things to be different.

Our attack has looked unbalanced all tournament, as has our left side. The fact Southgate has persisted with the same players in poor performance after poor performance is unforgivable.

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Ffs. Kane your cente forward. Get forward we don't need you in f...g midfield passing to where you should be. Trippier is getting acres of space on the left. Gets the ball and.....passes backwards. Get Gordon on now. Get Palmer on now.  That said Saka isn’t to bad. But Palmer has something. Get Wharton on in midfield who passes forward 99% of the time. More pace is required to get forward quickly. This is the 4th really poor game. 

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4 minutes ago, harvey54 said:

Can't see anyone wanting to take over the poisoned chalice after Southgate, if he goes after this tournament. Nobody English stands out to take over. I'd personally love Klopp next. That would be fun

Will be Graham Potter.  I think he will want it. 

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1 minute ago, Sleepy1968 said:

I have concerns that some of our players will have problems finding the dressing room at half time.

I fear that you’re right. It seems that a bit of dementia has set in.

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Just now, ExiledAjax said:

You lads have been watching this for 3 weeks?

That 15 mins fully vindicates my decision to give the grand total of absolutely zero shites about England this year.

Now, now Exile. More comments like that and you'll be labelled as petty and small minded 🤣

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4 minutes ago, Ronnie Sinclair said:

The performance of a side trying to get the manager sacked - utter garbage 

Can't believe that a team in the knock out stage of a major international tournament would set out to perform so badly as to get the manager sacked, as that would almost certainly see them knocked out.

At this level i'm certain that the players will  want a winners medal, despite the manager.

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We've absolutely stank this tournament out with such passive, slow, boring football.

Can we please just have 45 mins of shackles off attacking football before we crash out.

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24 minutes ago, BS3_RED said:

Bye Southgate, God I hate you

Just seen the " not hate " ad. 

 

Sorry but it didn't work. I still hate him. 

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1 minute ago, Barrs Court Red said:

After the tepid shitshow that was the Denmark game, I’d have thought he’d start Palmer.  
 

You haven't learned have you BCR?

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I'm all for respecting the opposition but this is a side we are playing with two 37 year olds in it. Pekarik at RB and Kucka in midfield.

A strong weakness to exploit surely? They WERE good players obviously and a lot of experience but this Slovakia probably isn't as good as the one with Hamsik, Vittek plus those two players in their prime among others.

Before we even get into our own failings.

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6 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

Any chance of a midfielder showing for the ball ?

Thats exactly the problem, isn’t it? I don’t mind the sideways, backwards passing across the back if there’s an end objective to it, if it’s waiting patiently for the chance to play that incisive ball forward. But being able to do that depends on midfield movement and on players working to make space. And we just don’t do that. 

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Just now, harvey54 said:

Looking forward to Shearer and Lineker later if it stays like this

Kandy Kane will be on for a brusing.

Another Generation of England Vampires.........scared of Silver

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Just wondering whether for many players playing for their country just doesn't matter as much as playing for their clubs, and certainly doesn't matter as much as it did for previous generations.

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Difficult to pinpoint reasons for this shanbles

1 Wrong tactics

2 Not playing for the manager

3 The poor dears are too tired after a Prem season

4 European football has moved on and we have not

5 Wrong player selection

6 Something wrong in the camp we know nothing of 

7 Poor training

8 Poor captain leadership on the pitch

 

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22 minutes ago, downendcity said:

What has been noticeable throughout the tournament is the number of teams that, when they win the ball back, break forward at pace with as few as possible quick positive passes , get numbers forward and thereby stretch the opposition defence and isolate defenders.

By comparison, Southgate is using the Bristol City playbook, so when we win the ball back our approach play is laboured, predictable, uses far too many across and back passes, allowing the opposition all the time in the world to regroup, get men behind the ball and back into shape. 

Other teams seem prepared to take a risk going forward. England's play reflects Southgate, being very much safety first.

 

You have this

17 minutes ago, Super said:

Walker and Saka have been shocking.

Then you have this

What you want Super? At least Saka is trying to beat his man

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1 minute ago, cidercity1987 said:

You have this

Then you have this

What you want Super? At least Saka is trying to beat his man

He isn't he cuts inside every time

Palmer is currently a far better player

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3 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Could be his last 45m as England manager surely he has to say "**** it" and attack. Palmer and Gordon on.

a definition of madness is repeatedly  doing the same thing and expecting a different result

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Just now, Kid in the Riot said:

Gary Neville 🔥🔥🔥

Just said the same, apart from don’t swap Walker, he’s been shit.  Just get Trent in for him. Get Toney up top with Palmer on too, and get the ball forward quickly, before Slovakia suck the mins out of the game.  Even if yo7 play for set-pieces, which is our main / only threat.

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